Re: Switchdesk functionality has disappeared

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 11:57 PM Robert McBroom wrote: > Fedora 36 booting mode 3 to a command line boot, the switchdesk entry > Plasma doesn't do anything > Looks like a bug fixed via https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-42f46048de (refer to bugs tab) Rahul

Re: Installing fedora-flathub-remote doesn't enable Flathub?

Hi On Fri, Jun 24, 2022 at 11:34 AM Ian Pilcher wrote: > After installing the package, 'flatpak remotes' still doesn't show > Flathub. Is there something else that I'm supposed to do? > Flatpak can use all several remotes and none of them are there by default yet. If you want to enable

Re: support term for Fedora 34

Hi On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:30 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > In addition to fixing the typo, I also de-indented the "Supported > Releases" and "EOL Releases" (thus removing the "Old Releases") in the > navigation bar to help make things more clear. > Quick note: The gmane link in that page is dead

Re: is this a dnf bug?

Hi On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 9:10 AM Tom Horsley wrote: > I download updates to the cache on cron at night. > > I wanted to apply some updates, but not have to reboot > because I got a new kernel or something, so I did: > > dnf update 'libre*' > > That updated all the libreoffice packages. > >

Re: Please add OpenVSP to the Fedora repositories.

Hi On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 6:45 PM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > Obviously. The point I'm attempting to make is that there seems to be > no standard way for non-developers to request a package, which is what > the OP is trying to do. That could be intentional or it could be an > oversight, but

Re: Please add OpenVSP to the Fedora repositories.

HI On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 5:13 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Fri, 2019-12-20 at 18:56 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > > https://developer.fedoraproject.org/deployment/copr/about.html > > That's fine for developers, but what about users? > There is no brigh

Re: Please add OpenVSP to the Fedora repositories.

On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 8:04 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > On Mon, 2019-12-16 at 17:10 -0700, linux guy wrote: > > Subject says it all. > > You should probably file a Request For Enhancement (RFE) on Bugzilla. > > There isn't a good place to file this in Bugzilla.There is a wiki page but I

Re: Most system update requires system reboot or session restart

Hi On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 7:09 PM Sudhir Khanger > > > I think the bottom line is that you are caught between a rock and a hard > place. Either take the productivity hit by updating and restarting or take > the > security hit by not updating. > You aren't in a rock and hard place though.

Re: disk monopolized?

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:34 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > > Yes, that is "normal" behaviour. Apparently it's a very hard problem to > solve. > 4.10 is expected to make this better http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1612.1/01878.html Rahul ___

Re: Continuing dnf weirdness

Hi On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 11:29 AM Ian Pilcher wrote: > That does sound like a plausible cause. The weird thing is that I > already have install_weak_deps=false in dnf.conf, and it doesn't look > like there's any separate setting for updates. > > So it *shouldn't* be

Re: wordpress install

Hi Track https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1336091 Rahul On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:43 PM maderios wrote: > Hi > Is there a way to install wordpress on F23 and no http/apache2 > dependency? Nginx is installed on my system, I don't want apache2. > Thanks > -- >

Re: Smooth F22 -> F23 upgrade

Hi On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:11 AM, Tony Camuso wrote: > Congratulations to the Fedora team! > > Upgraded three systems, one of them a VM, with no pain, > no problems. > Good to know but more info would be useful for others. How did you upgrade? Rahul -- users mailing list

Re: upgrade to 23 when it comes out

Hi On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:43 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > At no time during the upgrade from 19 to 20 was the computer otherwise > unusable, and there was only one reboot needed, when the process was > complete. It took several tries because of glitches, such as needing to > clear enough space for

Re: upgrade to 23 when it comes out

Hi On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Joe Zeff < wrote: > > I'll remember that, or at least try to, once I'm using dnf for upgrades. > In my case, at least, the main problem other than disk space was google > earth conflicting with a filesystem package, and after the upgrade, it > still does. And,

Re: AVC denial and the suggested actio to take (by the setroubleshoot details) window

Hi On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:20 PM, jd1008 wrote: > But /home is a symlink to /home on another mount point. > Would not selinux be "savvy" enough to follow symlinks??? Following symlinks can be a security problem. It is pretty common for that to be restricted by default Rahul -- users

Re: gnote gnome-shell extension or systray icon

Hi On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 11:43 PM, drolyk wrote: > Hello. Last time i used gnome(it was gnome2), gnote/tomboy had support > of systray and there was easy way to edit/create notes, but now i need > launch app everytime and go to needed note via app ui. I must say that > way to work with notes

Re: dnf autoremove is trying to remove user-installed packages

Hi On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Anon Anon wrote: > Hello, > > According to dnf man pages autoremove removes all "leaf" packages from > the system that were originally installed as dependencies of > Hi-installed packages but which are no longer required by any such > package. > > dnf

Re: fedup --product=nonproduct --network 22 is upgrading to the unreleased fc23 !!!

Hi On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > > If that were true, wouldn't he be seeing rawhide packages in his regular > updates? > > Only if he let it remain enables as opposed to cherry picking updates by temporarily enabling for a single update session. If you do such things,

Re: yumdownloader equivalent for dnf

Hi On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 5:01 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/25/15 16:27, Ahmad Samir wrote: The dnf-plugins-core package only contains manual pages I suppose it would have been nice for the Description to make that clear. :-) Maybe a nice bug report will make that happen :-) Rahul --

Re: Rsnapshot update

Hi On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: The Rsnapshot author recently released version 1.4.1, yet Fedora only has 1.3.1, originally released in 2008. Is this being maintained? File a bug report in bugzilla https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rsnapshot/

Re: Questions on Anaconda Hub and spokes model

Hi On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 12:36 PM, shankha wrote: Hi, I had few questions on anaconda hub and spokes model. Is it the correct list to ask those questions. Try anaconda-devel list instead Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

Hi On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: That does clearly *not* provide the latest updates. It's better than without --refresh, but dnf clean metadata is required for full updates available. That contradicts the documentation provided. I would suggest filing a bug

Re: fedora 22 mostly better

Hi On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: What is with the tmpfs mounts it now makes for each user daemon? There is already a tmpfs /run, why does every user daemon need yet another mountpoint under that? IIRC because tmpfs doesn't have quota support Rahul -- users mailing

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

Hi On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz However, if somebody runs dnf upgrade on the command shell then he clearly wants the latest updates. Right now! No caching or other magic involved. That's the whole point of running dnf upgrade manually, otherwise the user would have

Re: unmaintained bugs

Hi On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 1:15 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: no, I am not assuming that maintainers are paid, but when you are a volunteer you must be honest to you and other people to say when you cannot continue to be a volunteer This is much more tricky than you apparently assume it to

Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates

Hi On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:55 PM, dwoody5654 wrote: Is there a way to make dnf provide info instead of being silent? The answer was posted earlier in the thread. Use dnf update --best. Refer to the man dnf for details. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Security Lab

Hi On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Martin Cigorraga wrote: Hello, I would like to know if it is enough to install the 'Security Lab' group in order to get all the goodies from that spin. Yes Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: dnf has no command to check all

Hi On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 8:38 AM, Radek Holy wrote: Sounds good. Would you mind filing an RFE? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1226009 Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: F22: XFCE issues

Hi On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/27/2015 02:24 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: gdm 1152 0.6 1.5 1476048 123516 tty1 Sl+ 22:35 0:16 | \_ gnome-shell --mode=gdm --wayland --display-server Here it is: gdm is starting gnome-shell, even though gnome

Re: F22: XFCE issues

Hi On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 8:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: Here's the description of gdm as given by yum info gdm: Description : GDM provides the graphical login screen, shown shortly after boot : up, log out, and when user-switching. You may very well be right, but if so, the

Re: F21 - F22 via fedup went OK

Hi On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 14:03 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: No problems so far. Do I have to do anything to switch from yum to dnf? I see yum update redirects. Does it use the existing conf and files in

Re: F21 - F22 via fedup went OK

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 15:12 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Yes. Not that you can tell from the man page. man dnf.conf DNF by default uses the global configuration file at /etc/dnf/dnf.conf and all *.repo files found

Re: an idea about upgrades

Hi On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Gordon Messmer wrote: On 05/12/2015 04:10 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I only see a plugin for dnf. Is there also one for yum? I thought there was, but I could be wrong. Memory, and all that. yum-plugin-fs-snapshot Rahul -- users mailing list

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tim wrote: Or a security concern... Some people install everything under the sun, and you really don't want a telnet server running. Unlike say Debian, Fedora does not default to running services just because a package is installed. There are very few

Re: Copr hosting?

Hi On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: Wow, that was really long and I hope at least half coherent. If someone knows of a better explanation, please point me to it. :) I have edited the page at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/fedorapeople.org and added a

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Now there is a new alternative to systemd see RancherOS I am actually surprised and puzzled by this! I thought Fedora was bleeding edge* and was the pioneer of new technologies* but now someone else is leading the init*

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: One question *may not be systemd related*, how come fedora after startup has 300+ services running in the background? How are you counting services? Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: I run gkrellm and it lists 340 procs. Before it used to be a smaller number gkrellm isn't necessarily counting background services. The real number of background services can be found out using systemctl --type=service. In my

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: There are 121 services here when I pass --all. How many of these are unneeded? FYI, I would suggest posting a new thread or renaming the subject to match your queries You can't count all since that is the list of all possible

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Rahul, thanks to Your recommendation. But for wider angle, this isn't as so significant. I want a stable system on which I can rely on - and it now block systemd piece. And as I see for last 4 years of its evolving, it is still

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

HI On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Rahul, I'm not sure what you're talking about, sorry for my narrow english knowledge. Despite of that, although I know that systemd fans talk how is its documentations exhaustive (best/ideal/...), it isn't truth I disagree with

Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?

Hi On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:57 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sun, 3 May 2015 15:45:36 +0100 Marko Vojinovic wrote: Umm, because everyone is happy with systemd? :-) Not the slightest possibility that is true. I have a more likely reason for the universal adoption of systemd:

Re: dnf and RPMDB altered outside of yum

Hi On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:51 AM, R Mercado wrote: Hello List, I installed dnf on my desktop (Fedora 21) a few days ago and haven't removed yum. Today I run yum as I had forgotten about dnf and got the warning RPMDB altered outside of yum. Is the use of dnf a valid explanation of the

Re: F21: Save session on logout issues

Hi On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Tony Nelson wrote: On 15-03-30 14:53:31, Max Pyziur wrote: I've tried xfce-terminal just to compare it's user-friendliness with gnome-terminal. WHile both have the same base functionality, ... Does gnome-terminal have a Find command now? Sure Rahul

Re: help - Fedup F20 to F21 through firewall

Hi On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: The fedup installation guide used to say that it was not recommended if one is using KDE or Gnome, which I imagine would be 90% of users. Does it still say this? In general, upgrades are recommended to be run in a more minimal

Re: will denyhosts work with journald (without rsyslogd)?

Hi On Sat, Mar 28, 2015 at 5:14 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: If denyhosts needs rsyslogd, shouldn't it be a dependency? It doesn't need rsyslogd specifically. A virtual dependency on syslog with multiple providers including rsyslogd and syslog-ng might be a possible solution. However denyhosts

Re: Handling and resolving 'dependency' which has been custom compiled

Hi On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: I compiled ffmpeg manually to have jack audio [1] support by following the guide on the ffmpeg website [2]. This means ffmpeg is in ~/bin/ffmpeg (also in my PATH). Before doing this I removed (with yum) ffmpeg. Now if I try to: yum

Re: [ F21 ] How to remove GNOME

Hi On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Martin Cigorraga wrote: Ahh, that's actually a nice tip Joe, thanks a lot. I am afraid not. It is quite the reverse really. GDM requires a number of GNOME components because it provides many features directly before you even login. However very few

Re: rsyslog

HI On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: On 03/05/2015 07:28 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: Honestly, most people (as in net/sys admins) don't even use Linux anymore. They use Windows 7 or Macs. He probably means that they are using Mac or Windows to manage Linux servers remotely.

Re: Why does Anaconda overrides user decisions?

Hi On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:02 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote: Wait, are you saying that we can't have both functionality and a good, intuitive UI? It is just way more harder to expose all the options and do so in a way that many users would consider intuitive. When you have feedback about

Re: Why does Anaconda overrides user decisions?

Hi On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Sudhir Khanger wrote: I choose manual partitioning for a specific reason. When I choose manual partitioning I expect it to let me make legal decisions about partitioning. Make your case in bugzilla then. Thanks. I will do that. Anacoda is the weakest

Re: Why does Anaconda overrides user decisions?

Hi On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: I think he was alluding to gtk3-theming related bugs in kde (we've hit several during f20/f21 pre-releases) Sure but that doesn't really affect Anaconda. It is not a regular program you run in any desktop environment. Even in a live

Re: Fedora-21 firewall advice?

Hi On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: Personally, I'm somewhat amused. So the iptables scripts were broken. We all know that. Instead of fixing them, let's make a whole new firewalld thing! You misunderstood. It is not the scripts that were broken. It is just a basic

Re: End of 32-bit support?

Hi On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: It may seriously be time for Redhat to consider splitting Fedora into two distros--one tracking RHEL and continuing the role as testbed for RHEL, and the other taking up the role as an enthusiast's distro, and continuing to support the

Re: Fedora-21 firewall advice?

Hi On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 7:24 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote: My meaning was: if firewalld is associated to systemd then sooner or later it will probably become the standard firewall in all distributions, so I might as well get used to it. I see. Firewalld is a independent project entirely

Re: Fedora-21 firewall advice?

Hi On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: poma wrote: firewalld != systemd :) I assumed it was one of the facilities made feasible by systemd? If it has nothing to do with systemd, what exactly is its advantage? I am not how what that question means. firewalld has

Re: tmpfs

Hi On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: I thought I would try having /tmp as a tmpfs. It's not mentioned in the Fedora 21 docs. Is this because: o It worked so well (beginning in Fedora 18) that it's standard practice? Whether it worked well or not is very relevant here

Re: SLiM dependency on xterm?

Hi On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:46 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Sorry, I do not understand the question: SLiM is a simple login manager. I like it, but I don't quite see why it needs to bring in the dependency on xterm. You should probably file a bug report. It has a dependency on

Re: f21 still on mono 2?

H On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: I thought fedora was cutting edge :-). Why is the mono on fedora 21 still at 2.10? There's a mono 3 out there these days which I need to run the latest RepetierHost. -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Mono_3.4 has a copr

Re: f21 still on mono 2?

Hi On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Instructions not filled in by author. Author knows what to do. Everybody else should avoid this repo. That's the default template for all copr repositories. It is experimental because it is targeted for Fedora 22. Rahul -- users

Re: getting rid of yum

Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: getting rid of yum

Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 09:39:29PM +0100, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: How come our systems behave differently? Make sure you have dnf-plugins-core installed Shouldn't that package be a requirement of dnf, and due to that be

Re: getting rid of yum

Hi On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:51 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 12/16/14 22:32, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: Hm, could it be due to 'kernel' missing here? Apparently not: Moreover, the currently booted kernel package is always protected. (from

Re: gnome-shell-extension-weather not working in F21

Hi On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 7:15 AM, Ahmad Samir wrote: Alternatively you can disable the extension version checking altogether: gsettings set org.gnome.shell disable-extension-version-validation true That would be generally a bad idea. If you do that and install some new extension which

Re: Fedora-21 upgrade - lost WiFi

Hi On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 8:25 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I've lost WiFi on upgrading my Thinkpad T61 from Fedora-20/KDE to Fedora-21, using fedup. The WiFi card is Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 . I have what I assume is the correct driver - iwl5965 (and iwlegacy) loaded, Any

Re: Fedora-21 upgrade - lost WiFi

Hi On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Temlakos wrote: NetworkManager-wifi is not available in F20. Must I upgrade on an Ethernet connection and then go back and add NetworkManager-wifi? The upgrade is supposed to install it automatically. I just happen to upgrade to Fedora 21 during the

Re: Fedup 20 to 21 - Gnome fails to start

Hi On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 7:36 PM, wrote: I used fedup to move from F20 to F21 on two PCs. Both have Asus EN210 Nvidia graphics cards. In both cases, starting gnome would result in an error which reads a problem has occured and the system can't recover. I reinstalled the akmod nvidia

Re: nf_conntrack helpers?

Hi On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: Should this message mean anything to an ordinary mortal? nf_conntrack: automatic helper assignment is deprecated and it will be removed soon. Use the iptables CT target to attach helpers instead It is not a

Re: Questions about Fedora 14 Workstation

Hi On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Jeffrey Needle wrote: My vote: some ability to install whatever is available in the repositories, without having to jump all over the place to find stuff. Either command line or yumex for a graphical interface can help with that Rahul -- users mailing

Re: Questions about Fedora 14 Workstation

Hi On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/09/2014 12:25 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Jeffrey Needle wrote: __ My vote: some ability to install whatever is available in the repositories, without having to jump all over the place

Re: Questions about Fedora 14 Workstation

Hi On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Ian Malone wrote: This is just a guess, but looks like Joe thought you were suggesting using yumex to search for a graphical interface Ah, I see. I was suggesting that the user either use the command line (ie) dnf or yum directly or use yumex if the user

Re: Questions about Fedora 14 Workstation

Hi On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/09/2014 07:36 PM, Jeffrey Needle wrote: Not the way I took it. I installed it, thinking it was a graphical interface for yum. It is a graphical interface for yum, but I gather that when dnf is ready, yumex will use it instead.

Re: Send pictures by Fpaste.org

Hi On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Mickey wrote: How can I send pictures by fpaste.org You can't. It is meant to handle only text content. There are dozens of temporary image hosting sites available however. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:11 AM, Ian Malone wrote: Where should users be discussing things that may negatively impact them? That is too broad. In this case, we are talking about features not included within Fedora. So the right place is upstream Rahul -- users mailing list

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 3:19 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: The discussion is about a component already in use in Fedora, systemd, and new features of it. How can this not be on-topic here? You keep asking the same question that was answered before. Users list is for discussing features

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 6:09 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: systemctl list-unit-files Lists 315 services, most that I can't control. And does it no longer matter if you are in single user, multiuser, etc mode on how the services run? As I pointed out before, you *can* control them.

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: systemd IS a part of Fedora general release. Yes but not the feature that was being discussed. It was, in the beginning. It then started to take over more and more other functions. Not true. It was never sold as only about

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted by Fedora so far? What says that this component will not be adopted by fedora? Look up feature pages to understand which components have been adopted.

Re: Pleasant experience with yumex on F21 beta

Hi On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 2:08 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: It's possible that your change in DE was responsible. I don't use Gnome, but by all reports it's a resource hog, and Xfce is much more light weight, and that might make the difference. It is just a speedup in yumex itself. Rahul --

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 10:49 AM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: My question was What part(s) of the systemd suite has not been adopted. Note the not part. Yes. I understood that fine. I was pointing out which parts have been adopted so you can count the rest as not adopted. There are

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: The issue being discussed in this thread has nothing to do with test releases and has because of that nothing to do on the test list. It has nothing to do with the development releases (rawhide) and has because of that nothing to

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:04 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: As systemd is (a huge) part of Fedora, and what we discuss is a new feature in systemd, it will, eventually, That is by no means a good assumption but even if you take that assumption as a given, it is not a good justification.

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: I am keen on discussing how new features in systemd (or any other packages used by Fedora for that matter) will affect the users of Fedora. The best place for that is this users list. By that account why would rawhide or test

Re: Latest systemd news

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: If the thread goes off the rails and outside of the scope of community assistance, encouragement, and advice — not to mention the Friends foundation — that's a different story. I would suggest that the thread is off the rails long time

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 7:23 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just telling them to shut up, out of scope seems a bad idea. Good thing nobody did that then, right? With all due respect, you can't argue against your own made up quote. As to the question of response from Red Hat, in case you

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Ranting about ... Excuse me; I worked very hard to *not* rant. Sure. I wasn't referring to your post. Your effort is appreciated. It intended to be, and I believe was, a reasoned and rational attempt to explain why someone would

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Perhaps at some point we will get better tools for using systemd. Thanks for bringing in something useful to the discussion that I can address: I mean compare: systemctl restart sshd.service with service sshd restart Is there

Re: Better tools needed - Re: Latest systemd news

HI On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And the list is hugh compared to what services are really up to user control. I mean listed items like: Yes that list is larger because systemd does allow you to control more than sysvinit does directly. Try it out Oh, and that

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: I agree, but I will point out that incorporating systemd is an...extremely controversial...decision. And, the entire arena seems to be fraught with extreme opinions. Couple that with the fact that many here seem not to have known it

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:01 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: That is intensely needed. I think either new material explaining exactly why systemd is needed, and good, is critical. If it already exists, collected pointers are just as good (if not better) There are dozens of references about half

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:14 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote: Just to point out how explosive the systemd issue is in the Linux community, note that Debian has been forked just beause of this: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html Yes, I know, this isn't Fedora.

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Lars E. Pettersson wrote: On 11/18/14 04:20, Rahul Sundaram wrote: user mailing list of a distribution which doesn't even use the component at all yet. Well, how long do you think it will take until the component is being used then? Systemd have had

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Why did the systemd project add this to the scope of the project for a system and service manager for Linux? This was something that could have been easily asked to systemd developers rather than the long rant that was posted. In

Re: Latest systemd news

Hi On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Right. Like systemd developers have such an established track record of listening to feedback from the community, That has no connection to what I said. If you have already made up your mind, that's fine but if you are wondering why

Re: fedup??

Hi On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Beartooth wrote: By unofficial fedora-upgrade tool I suppose you mean yum upgrade? I've seen posts about it, but never tried it myself. No $ sudo dnf info yum-upgrade Available Packages Name: fedora-upgrade Arch: noarch Epoch

Re: Skype in Fedora

Hi On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Mickey wrote: Can Skype run in F20 with a Webcam ? Yes Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Package versions

Hi On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 3:51 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi, I am trying to update a package in a copr repo I maintain, but for some reason I cannot figure out what I'm doing wrong with the package versions. dnf does not seem to think the new package is an update. Does RPM? use

Re: Package versions

Hi On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Suvayu Ali wrote: Is it possible that a dependent package which was compiled against the old notmuch is preventing the update. Yes. try dnf --best update Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

Re: How to prevent a program from accessing to the Internet?

Hi On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, I would like to prevent a program from accessing to the Internet. Any ideas? http://serverfault.com/questions/550276/how-to-block-internet-access-to-certain-programs-on-linux Rahul -- users mailing list

Re: Can Fedora change the MAC address?

Hi On Sat, Oct 18, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Paul Smith wrote: Dear All, Can Fedora 20 by itself change the MAC address? Thank in advance, Paul You can spoof it. This is the solution I recommend https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MAC_address_spoofing#macchanger_.2B_NetworkManager Rahul --

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