Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-29 Thread Bob Marcan
On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 10:44:39 -0500 Fulko Hew wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:01 AM Bob Marcan wrote: > > > Why we just don't buy any hardware which have Nvidia? > > If they ignore us, we can do the same. > > What is wrong with AMD video, except it works out of the box? :-) > > > >

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-29 Thread John Mellor
On 2021-11-29 10:44 a.m., Fulko Hew wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:01 AM Bob Marcan wrote: Why we just don't buy any hardware which have Nvidia? If they ignore us, we can do the same. What is wrong with AMD video, except it works out of the box? :-) Because there is no CUDA

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-29 Thread John Pilkington
On 29/11/2021 15:44, Fulko Hew wrote: On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:01 AM Bob Marcan > wrote: Why we just don't buy any hardware which have Nvidia? If they ignore us, we can do the same. What is wrong with AMD video, except it works out of the box? :-)

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-29 Thread Fulko Hew
On Mon, Nov 29, 2021 at 10:01 AM Bob Marcan wrote: > Why we just don't buy any hardware which have Nvidia? > If they ignore us, we can do the same. > What is wrong with AMD video, except it works out of the box? :-) > Because there is no CUDA support?

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-29 Thread Bob Marcan
Why we just don't buy any hardware which have Nvidia? If they ignore us, we can do the same. What is wrong with AMD video, except it works out of the box? :-) Bob ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 at 17:19, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/28/21 1:49 PM, Barry Scott wrote: > > Having anyone but the end user install the NVIDIA driver was explicitly > > not allowed. In a previous job we wanted to bundle the NVIDIA driver > > with a linux product and could not get NVIDIA to agree

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/28/21 1:49 PM, Barry Scott wrote: Having anyone but the end user install the NVIDIA driver was explicitly not allowed. In a previous job we wanted to bundle the NVIDIA driver with a linux product and could not get NVIDIA to agree to a suitable license to allow this. I'm not sure how

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread Barry Scott
> On 28 Nov 2021, at 18:00, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 11/28/21 2:59 AM, Tim via users wrote: >> So, if they can do that, why can't we do something similar? Or at >> least, automate figuring out which driver needs installing. There's a >> look-up chart that we have to manually trawl through,

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/28/21 2:59 AM, Tim via users wrote: So, if they can do that, why can't we do something similar? Or at least, automate figuring out which driver needs installing. There's a look-up chart that we have to manually trawl through, can't we pull that data into some software? We can't do that

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 28, 2021, at 05:00, Tim via users wrote: > > That wasn't my point, though I do feel that way (about stingy bastard > chipset manufacturers). I'm well aware that driver creation is a lot > of guesswork. But once drivers are available, the computer should be > able to pick the right one

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread Ed Greshko
On 28/11/2021 17:59, Tim via users wrote: So, if they can do that, why can't we do something similar? Or at least, automate figuring out which driver needs installing. There's a look-up chart that we have to manually trawl through, can't we pull that data into some software? Does

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-28 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I don't think so, unless you're trying to be funny. We don't have >> to do any of this pallaver for other several other graphics >> chipsets, audio chipsets, USB chipsets, WiFi, etc. The system >> figures it out for us. It was one of the great features of Linux >> of an install often

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-25 Thread John Pilkington
On 25/11/2021 17:46, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/25/21 3:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: I don't think so, unless you're trying to be funny.  We don't have to do any of this pallaver for other several other graphics chipsets, audio chipsets, USB chipsets, WiFi, etc.  The system figures it out for us.  It

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-25 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/25/21 3:08 AM, Tim via users wrote: I don't think so, unless you're trying to be funny. We don't have to do any of this pallaver for other several other graphics chipsets, audio chipsets, USB chipsets, WiFi, etc. The system figures it out for us. It was one of the great features of

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-25 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, 25 Nov 2021 at 06:09, Tim via users wrote: > Tim: > >> See my prior email about "why should we have to do this, it's the > >> computer." > >> > >> In all seriousness, if a distro wants people to use it, don't make > >> them do deep forensics to figure out how to install drivers. The >

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-25 Thread John Pilkington
On 25/11/2021 10:08, Tim via users wrote: Tim: See my prior email about "why should we have to do this, it's the computer." In all seriousness, if a distro wants people to use it, don't make them do deep forensics to figure out how to install drivers. The computer should be doing this

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-25 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> See my prior email about "why should we have to do this, it's the >> computer." >> >> In all seriousness, if a distro wants people to use it, don't make >> them do deep forensics to figure out how to install drivers. The >> computer should be doing this analysis for you. John

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-25 Thread John Pilkington
On 25/11/2021 03:31, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 20:11 +, John Pilkington wrote: NVIDIA has several driver series, each of which has different hardware support. To determine which driver you need to install, you'll first need to find your graphics card model. See my prior

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-24 Thread Tim via users
On Wed, 2021-11-24 at 20:11 +, John Pilkington wrote: > NVIDIA has several driver series, each of which has different > hardware support. To determine which driver you need to install, > you'll first need to find your graphics card model. See my prior email about "why should we have to do

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-24 Thread John Pilkington
On 24/11/2021 14:43, Jonathan Billings wrote: I know the ELrepo nvidia packages (for RHEL) have a nvidia-detect package (and corresponding yum plug-in) that makes it easy to install the appropriate package, giving you some automation. http://elrepo.org/tiki/nvidia-detect

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-24 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 23, 2021, at 22:54, Tim via users wrote: > > On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 12:58 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: >> This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that >> I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name >> (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-24 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 23:54, Tim via users wrote: > On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 12:58 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > > This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that > > I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name > > (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 12:58 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that > I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name > (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* > stopped a while ago at 340 I think.

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/23/21 13:02, Tim Evans wrote: OK, looks like I'm good with version 470xx $ lspci | grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1) $ rpm -qa | grep akmod-nvidia akmod-nvidia-470xx-470.82.00-1.fc35.x86_64 So, to repeat my question

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Ed Greshko
On 24/11/2021 05:02, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/23/21 13:58, Roger Heflin wrote: This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name (kepler).   So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X.  And GF* stopped a while ago

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/23/21 13:58, Roger Heflin wrote: This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* stopped a while ago at 340 I think. If your card just

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Roger Heflin
This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* stopped a while ago at 340 I think. If your card just stopped working it is probably a GK* variant

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Slade Watkins
On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 1:22 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants > of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is > supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably > needs 340(GF108). Roger, I know,

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Roger Heflin
Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably needs 340(GF108). I have been studying the nvidia cards to sort out which ones do x264 encoding

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread John Pilkington
On 23/11/2021 14:17, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/22/21 19:32, Ed Greshko wrote: Actually, the exclude was needed when the akmod-nvidia-340xx package was in the rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.  Without the exclude the akmod-nvidia-340xx would get downgraded to the broken version. I just

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-23 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/22/21 19:32, Ed Greshko wrote: Actually, the exclude was needed when the akmod-nvidia-340xx package was in the rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing.  Without the exclude the akmod-nvidia-340xx would get downgraded to the broken version. I just removed the exclude from my configuration

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/11/2021 08:07, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/22/21 18:59, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/22/21 3:36 PM, Tim Evans wrote: exclude=akmod-nvidia Why do you want to exclude that if you have an akmod-nvidia package installed?  Don't you want to get updates? As we have been discussing, older Nvidia

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/22/21 18:59, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/22/21 3:36 PM, Tim Evans wrote: exclude=akmod-nvidia Why do you want to exclude that if you have an akmod-nvidia package installed?  Don't you want to get updates? As we have been discussing, older Nvidia cards aren't supported with current drivers

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/22/21 17:42, Ed Greshko wrote: If akmod-nvidia-340xx installed and works.  Check /var/cache/akmods/akmods.log for output such as All good. It would be exclude=akmod-nvidia-340xx Great, thanks. ___ users mailing list --

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/22/21 3:36 PM, Tim Evans wrote: exclude=akmod-nvidia Why do you want to exclude that if you have an akmod-nvidia package installed? Don't you want to get updates? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/11/2021 06:36, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/22/21 16:47, Ed Greshko wrote: GeForce GT 730 is supported by akmod-nvidia-340xx. I am not sure if this has been pushed to rpmfusion-nonfree.  But the version that works with the newer kernels is nvidia-340xx-kmod-340.108-15.fc35. You may have to

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/22/21 16:47, Ed Greshko wrote: GeForce GT 730 is supported by akmod-nvidia-340xx. I am not sure if this has been pushed to rpmfusion-nonfree.  But the version that works with the newer kernels is nvidia-340xx-kmod-340.108-15.fc35. You may have to "dnf

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread John Pilkington
On 22/11/2021 19:52, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/13/21 11:10, Ed Greshko wrote: To switch back to nouveau, just "dnf erase akmod-nvidia-39xx". This will revert the changes to the linux boot parameters. # dnf remove akmod-nvidia-470.74-1.fc35.x86_64 Dependencies resolved.

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/22/21 11:52, Tim Evans wrote: # dnf remove akmod-nvidia-470.74-1.fc35.x86_64 Dependencies resolved.  Package Arch   Version Repository     Size

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Ed Greshko
On 23/11/2021 03:52, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/13/21 11:10, Ed Greshko wrote: To switch back to nouveau, just "dnf erase akmod-nvidia-39xx". This will revert the changes to the linux boot parameters. # dnf remove akmod-nvidia-470.74-1.fc35.x86_64 Dependencies resolved.

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-22 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/13/21 11:10, Ed Greshko wrote: To switch back to nouveau, just "dnf erase akmod-nvidia-39xx". This will revert the changes to the linux boot parameters. # dnf remove akmod-nvidia-470.74-1.fc35.x86_64 Dependencies resolved.

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-16 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/11/2021 13:39, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 11/15/21 17:34, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/11/2021 06:15, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 11/15/21 15:06, John Pilkington wrote: On 15/11/2021 17:03, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Haven't tried rpmfusion in a long time as patches or

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-15 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 11/15/21 17:34, Ed Greshko wrote: On 16/11/2021 06:15, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 11/15/21 15:06, John Pilkington wrote: On 15/11/2021 17:03, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Haven't tried rpmfusion in a long time as patches or upgrades have usually been available before their

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-15 Thread Ed Greshko
On 16/11/2021 06:15, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 11/15/21 15:06, John Pilkington wrote: On 15/11/2021 17:03, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Haven't tried rpmfusion in a long time as patches or upgrades have usually been available before their updates to a new kernel. I have no

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-15 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 11/15/21 15:06, John Pilkington wrote: On 15/11/2021 17:03, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Haven't tried rpmfusion in a long time as patches or upgrades have usually been available before their updates to a new kernel. I have no recent experience with the 390 series, but normally a

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-15 Thread John Pilkington
On 15/11/2021 17:03, Robert McBroom via users wrote: Haven't tried rpmfusion in a long time as patches or upgrades have usually been available before their updates to a new kernel. I have no recent experience with the 390 series, but normally a driver from rpmfusion will build *on your

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-15 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 11/15/21 08:33, Robert McBroom via users wrote: On 11/13/21 09:15, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/11/2021 22:07, Robert McBroom via users wrote: I have a system with a NVIDIA Geforce gt 610 video card. There don't seem to be Fedora drivers for the 5.14 kernel. I see that Debian has a patched

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-15 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 11/13/21 09:15, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/11/2021 22:07, Robert McBroom via users wrote: I have a system with a NVIDIA Geforce gt 610 video card. There don't seem to be Fedora drivers for the 5.14 kernel. I see that Debian has a patched version of the 390.144 driver in a .deb package but

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 8:52 AM Tim Evans wrote: > Thanks, Jonathan. Guess I wasn't clear: how do you switch BACK? Don't > I need to remove the Nvidia packages? Is kernel rebuilt by package > deletions to remove the Nvidia mods? See

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/11/2021 23:50, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/13/21 10:01, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Nov 13, 2021, at 09:52, Tim Evans wrote: What would be the process to do this, Ed? That is, how to switch from Nvidia to nouveau? You don’t need to do anything.  That’s what is installed by default, and

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/13/21 10:01, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Nov 13, 2021, at 09:52, Tim Evans wrote: What would be the process to do this, Ed? That is, how to switch from Nvidia to nouveau? You don’t need to do anything. That’s what is installed by default, and is part of the Linux kernel. Thanks,

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Jonathan Billings
On Nov 13, 2021, at 09:52, Tim Evans wrote: > > What would be the process to do this, Ed? That is, how to switch from Nvidia > to nouveau? You don’t need to do anything. That’s what is installed by default, and is part of the Linux kernel. — Jonathan Billings

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Tim Evans
On 11/13/21 09:15, Ed Greshko wrote: On 13/11/2021 22:07, Robert McBroom via users wrote: The other alternative is to use the nouveau driver. What would be the process to do this, Ed? That is, how to switch from Nvidia to nouveau? Thanks. ___

Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Ed Greshko
On 13/11/2021 22:07, Robert McBroom via users wrote: I have a system with a NVIDIA Geforce gt 610 video card. There don't seem to be Fedora drivers for the 5.14 kernel. I see that Debian has a patched version of the 390.144 driver in a .deb package but don't see anything for Fedora. Is there a 

NVIDIA Legacy drivers

2021-11-13 Thread Robert McBroom via users
I have a system with a NVIDIA Geforce gt 610 video card. There don't seem to be Fedora drivers for the 5.14 kernel. I see that Debian has a patched version of the 390.144 driver in a .deb package but don't see anything for Fedora. Is there a way to uses the .deb package?