Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-24 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Howard Howell, Gordon Messmer: To both of you thanks a lot for the insight - I'm not a pro when it comes to battery chemistry/technology. So I'm definitely grateful for information in that regard. For the sake of brevity, as a response, only a few lines: My knowledge about batteries only

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-22 Thread Howard Howell
The guidelines quoted are also a bit dated. Modern charge controllers do a lot of control of the battery conditions based on temperature. If you look at your battery, you will see that there are 4 contacts. two are the charge current and two are to a temperature sensor. The charge controller

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 05/21/2018 09:06 AM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: I'd try retraining the battery for longer run-time until empty: Depleting the battery fully does not extend the run-time of the battery.  It will sometimes re-calibrate the battery controller and improve its estimates, but it does reduce the

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-21 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 04:14:44PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > state: fully-charged > warning-level: none > energy: 27.7816 Wh > energy-empty:0 Wh > energy-full: 27.7816 Wh > energy-full-design: 38.115 Wh > energy-rate:

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-20 Thread Silvia Sánchez
Sick or worn out. On 18 May 2018 at 23:14, Chris Murphy wrote: > state: fully-charged > warning-level: none > energy: 27.7816 Wh > energy-empty:0 Wh > energy-full: 27.7816 Wh > energy-full-design:

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-18 Thread Chris Murphy
state: fully-charged warning-level: none energy: 27.7816 Wh energy-empty:0 Wh energy-full: 27.7816 Wh energy-full-design: 38.115 Wh energy-rate: 0 W voltage: 8.648 V percentage: 100%

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:21 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Fred Smith > wrote: >> On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> Check this out. After fully charging from this morning? >>> >>>

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 06:21:07PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Fred Smith > wrote: > > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Check this out. After fully charging from this morning? > >> > >> [chris@f28h

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: >> Check this out. After fully charging from this morning? >> >> [chris@f28h ~]$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 >>

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 05:08:42PM -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Check this out. After fully charging from this morning? > > [chris@f28h ~]$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 > native-path: BAT1 > vendor: Hewlett-Packard > model:

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Chris Murphy
Check this out. After fully charging from this morning? [chris@f28h ~]$ upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT1 native-path: BAT1 vendor: Hewlett-Packard model:PABAS0241231 serial: 41167 power supply: yes

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 9:07 AM, Erik P. Olsen wrote: > On 2018-05-17 at 08:52:08 Chris Murphy wrote: > >> I've noticed this only a few times, and it doesn't always happen, but >> there isn't enough data to form a pattern. >> >> Fedora Workstation 28 >> kernel varies but mainly

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 2018-05-17 at 12:41:49 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:07:55 +0200 > Erik P. Olsen wrote: > > > What happens if you also remove the battery during the power off period? > > Yea, I don't know if laptop makers are copying Android now, but I've > got a Samsung Android camera which

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 17 May 2018 17:07:55 +0200 Erik P. Olsen wrote: > What happens if you also remove the battery during the power off period? Yea, I don't know if laptop makers are copying Android now, but I've got a Samsung Android camera which you can tell to "power off", but it wants to be "helpful" and

Re: battery discharging whilelaptop powered off?

2018-05-17 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 2018-05-17 at 08:52:08 Chris Murphy wrote: > I've noticed this only a few times, and it doesn't always happen, but > there isn't enough data to form a pattern. > > Fedora Workstation 28 > kernel varies but mainly I use Rawhide kernels to catch bugs > > [0.00] DMI: HP HP Spectre