Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: As long as I will still be able to USE LibreOffice, then I guess I wouldn't mind the devs inserting another office suite for variety, and choice! And are you a student who's used Libreoffice/Openoffice a long time, you would not want to tuck with

Re: Steam on Fedora

2013-02-09 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, Sadly it doesn't seem to be updated with newer steam versions. Does anyone know the status? I can only agree with that. Hopefully the steam reporsitory (including newer versions of Mesa) will be online again, now that the legal issues have been resolved by Valve. - Clemens -- users

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-09 Thread antonio
Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/02/2013 00:09: On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 23:05 +0100, antonio wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 08/02/2013 23:02: On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 22:41 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: Since

help needed to start java/eclipse app on F17

2013-02-09 Thread M. Fioretti
Greetings, I am trying to start Xowa (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xowa/ ) on a fc17, x86_64 box when I launch it as explained in the readme file, I get the error below, even if I have Java and eclipse-swt installed: test # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'java|eclipse' eclipse-swt-4.2.1-2.fc17.x86_64

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-09 Thread Frédéric Bron
I'd next try to move off any ~/.gimp* directories. It looks like gimp is croaking while reading/processing resource and config files. Removed that but still the same segfault. If that doesn't do anything then try to rename resource files that gimp seems to find, e.g.,

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-09 Thread Stevo Slavić
This is the output: [sslavic@laptop ~]$ rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 2: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth Soft blocked: yes Hard blocked: no On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:04 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com

Re: help needed to start java/eclipse app on F17

2013-02-09 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi, Exception in thread main java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/graphics/Device at gplx.gfui.Gfui_kit_.key_(Unknown Source) at gplx.xowa.Xoa_gui_mgr.Invk(Unknown Source) After I also wasn't able to get it into working state, I had a quick look at the internals.

Re: help needed to start java/eclipse app on F17

2013-02-09 Thread Markus Schönhaber
09.02.2013 12:23, M. Fioretti: I am trying to start Xowa (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xowa/ ) on a fc17, x86_64 box when I launch it as explained in the readme file, I get the error below, even if I have Java and eclipse-swt installed: test # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'java|eclipse'

Re: FC18: Cannot connect to wireless networks after latest update

2013-02-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 02/09/2013 07:53 PM, Stevo Slavić wrote: This is the output: [sslavic@laptop ~]$ rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 1: hp-wifi: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no 2: hp-bluetooth: Bluetooth Soft blocked: yes Hard blocked: no Well, that

Re: ERROR: installing '/usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/True.*'

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 04:03, schrieb Ed Greshko: On 02/08/2013 08:47 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: ami right that FONT=True in /etc/vconsole.conf which was also created due upgrade to F18 on all of my machines with this value is the cause for the following error and that this is simply wrong?

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 12:10, schrieb antonio: tested from another computer and also with different OS. Same results, some sites cannot be accessed and I get strange behaviour from sites, i.e. password is not read. Tried with Firefox, Seamonkey and Epiphany. so pull your router from the internet

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 12:10 +0100, antonio wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/02/2013 00:09: On Fri, 2013-02-08 at 23:05 +0100, antonio wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 08/02/2013 23:02: On Fri,

Re: fresh install of F18: gimp segfaults

2013-02-09 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 12:30 +0100, Frédéric Bron wrote: is croaking while reading/processing resource and config files. Removed that but still the same segfault. If that doesn't do anything then try to rename resource files that gimp seems to find, e.g., ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-09 Thread antonio montagnani
Reindl Harald ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/02/2013 13:52: Am 09.02.2013 12:10, schrieb antonio: tested from another computer and also with different OS. Same results, some sites cannot be accessed and I get strange behaviour from sites, i.e. password is not read. Tried

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 07.02.2013 20:56, schrieb Claude Jones: On 2/7/2013 2:46 PM, Fernando Lozano wrote: I was hopping to get it on the next yum update. ;-) if you turned on the rawhide repo, it appears you could get it this is a

Read AIFF metadata

2013-02-09 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
Hi Everyone, I bought some AIFF tracks from Beatport the other day. I prefer them over WAV because the AIFF have embedded album art, song name, etc. I loaded them up in Audacious (F17+GNOME) which played them happily. But, it's not reading any of the metadata. All of the fields are displayed

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread nomnex
On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 08:39:09 -0600 Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: About 8 hours later on my triple core 3.4GHz machine I had a nice set of rpms. I didn't see anything that jumped out at me that was vastly different from 3.X but I have had any time to do anything productive as of

Re: because that i hate python

2013-02-09 Thread Arun SAG
File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/cookies.py, line 160, in get return self._find_no_duplicates(name, domain, path) File /usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/requests/cookies.py, line 281, in _find_no_duplicates raise CookieConflictError('There are multiple cookies with

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 15:24 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: Reindl Harald ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/02/2013 13:52: Am 09.02.2013 12:10, schrieb antonio: tested from another computer and also with different OS. Same results, some sites cannot be accessed and

Re: F18...Firefox is crazy about passwords

2013-02-09 Thread antonio montagnani
Patrick O'Callaghan ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/02/2013 17:18: On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 15:24 +0100, antonio montagnani wrote: Reindl Harald ha scritto / said the followingil giorno/on 09/02/2013 13:52: Am 09.02.2013 12:10, schrieb antonio: tested from another

Re: Read AIFF metadata

2013-02-09 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:17:48 -0500, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: I'd appreciate a recommendation for an audio player that can read AIFF metadata in GNOME or better yet, how I can convert these AIFFs to FLAC and keep the metadata intact. I wonder what happens if you convert them using

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 09/02/2013 09:03, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 09.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: As long as I will still be able to USE LibreOffice, then I guess I wouldn't mind the devs inserting another office suite for variety, and choice! And are you a student who's used Libreoffice/Openoffice a long

ethX ports playing musical chairs

2013-02-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Occasionally, upon reboot, apparently my eth0 and eth1 end up getting swapped. Hillary ensues because HWADDR in /etc/sysconfig/network- scripts/ifcfg-Auto_eth[01] no longer matches: Feb 9 12:53:46 shorty network[1325]: Bringing up interface Auto_eth0: ERROR:

Re: ethX ports playing musical chairs

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 19:07, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Occasionally, upon reboot, apparently my eth0 and eth1 end up getting swapped. Hillary ensues because HWADDR in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-Auto_eth[01] no longer matches: Feb 9 12:53:46 shorty network[1325]: Bringing up interface

Re: Enabling Wireless network without NetworkManager

2013-02-09 Thread Roger Heflin
I was watching this thread, I think this may work for you (it is working for me as of today). This is what is in my file, I have my wireless device setup in a bond with the wired device, so I can unplug and wireless takes over and then plug in and it goes back to wired. I have network manager

Re: ethX ports playing musical chairs

2013-02-09 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Reindl Harald writes: Am 09.02.2013 19:07, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Occasionally, upon reboot, apparently my eth0 and eth1 end up getting swapped. Hillary ensues because HWADDR in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-Auto_eth[01] no longer matches: Feb 9 12:53:46 shorty network[1325]:

Re: ethX ports playing musical chairs

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 19:30, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Reindl Harald writes: Am 09.02.2013 19:07, schrieb Sam Varshavchik: Occasionally, upon reboot, apparently my eth0 and eth1 end up getting swapped. Hillary ensues because HWADDR in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-Auto_eth[01] no

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/09/2013 12:36 PM, Gordan Bobic wrote: On 09/02/2013 09:03, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 09.02.2013, Eddie G. O'Connor Jr. wrote: As long as I will still be able to USE LibreOffice, then I guess I wouldn't mind the devs inserting another office suite for variety, and choice! And are you a

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/09/2013 10:24 AM, nomnex wrote: On Sat, 9 Feb 2013 08:39:09 -0600 Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: About 8 hours later on my triple core 3.4GHz machine I had a nice set of rpms. I didn't see anything that jumped out at me that was vastly different from 3.X but I have had any time

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: You would chose another distribution over having a choice between two nearly identical packages? Wow. I would choose to stay with the package (=Libreoffice) that I'm used to. If this wouldn't be possible, I would switch. All my templates, all my documents

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 21:18, schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: You would chose another distribution over having a choice between two nearly identical packages? Wow. I would choose to stay with the package (=Libreoffice) that I'm used to. If this wouldn't be possible, I

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 09/02/2013 20:18, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: You would chose another distribution over having a choice between two nearly identical packages? Wow. Nearly identical could mean a lot of extra work to particularly learn a new system. Time which you can't use for

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: most of the people using fedora since years did not notice any difference except the loading-screen by the switch to libreoffice Well, I didn't see this will end up in flames. Otherwise I wouldn't have participated in this thread. Nevermind. Don't using M$

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/09/2013 12:18 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: Nearly identical could mean a lot of extra work to particularly learn a new system. Time which you can't use for something useful. Much of what made Windows and MS Office so popular was their consistent Look and Feel. Learn one, you were close to

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/09/2013 12:28 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: so what, all mine was based on openoffice.org So were mine. And when the switch came to LibreOffice, I kept right on doing things the same as I'd always done with the same results. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 22:32, schrieb Heinz Diehl: On 09.02.2013, Reindl Harald wrote: most of the people using fedora since years did not notice any difference except the loading-screen by the switch to libreoffice Well, I didn't see this will end up in flames. Otherwise I wouldn't have

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Olav Vitters
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 10:40:19PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: you simply have no opinion because you are lacking the experience most grown up people have to realize that this time libreoffice and openoffice are the same application Attack the argument, not the person? you could have a

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 02/09/2013 01:32 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: You have to fight with incompatibilities because you're using Impress while all the machines at the congresses are solely running Powerpoint (which causes incompatibilities when used to display .odp files). That's hard enough. I know that Impress can

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 09.02.2013 22:47, schrieb Olav Vitters: On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 10:40:19PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: you simply have no opinion because you are lacking the experience most grown up people have to realize that this time libreoffice and openoffice are the same application Attack the

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 21:18 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: You would chose another distribution over having a choice between two nearly identical packages? Wow. I would choose to stay with the package (=Libreoffice) that I'm used to. If this wouldn't be

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 09.02.2013 22:47, schrieb Olav Vitters: On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 10:40:19PM +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: you simply have no opinion because you are lacking the experience most grown up people have to realize that this time

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Eddie G. O'Connor Jr.
On 02/09/2013 04:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/09/2013 01:32 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: You have to fight with incompatibilities because you're using Impress while all the machines at the congresses are solely running Powerpoint (which causes incompatibilities when used to display .odp files).

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 02/09/2013 03:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/09/2013 01:32 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: You have to fight with incompatibilities because you're using Impress while all the machines at the congresses are solely running Powerpoint (which causes incompatibilities when used to display .odp files).

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Gordan Bobic
On 09/02/2013 23:32, Steven Stern wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:48 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 02/09/2013 01:32 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: You have to fight with incompatibilities because you're using Impress while all the machines at the congresses are solely running Powerpoint (which causes

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Jorge Martínez López
Hi! 2013/2/9 Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net: The best program for handling academic documents is LaTex. Any Mictosoft like product can't hold a candle to LaTex for this job. Of course, you would have to learn a new document producing system. The learning curve is not easy but once it is

Re: GPG key retrieval failure rpmfusion-nonfree

2013-02-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.02.2013 02:19, schrieb Dick Roark: GPG key retrieval failed: [Errno 14] Could not open/read file:///etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-rpmfusion-nonfree-fedora-18-i386. Any help with this would be much appreciated in which context?

Re: Read AIFF metadata

2013-02-09 Thread Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu
On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 18:06 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote: I wonder what happens if you convert them using soundconverter? SoundConverter uses GStreamer as a backend, which afaik handles ID3 tags in AIFF files. I installed soundconverter and tried to read in one of the AIFF files - it no

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Bill Oliver
Impress does OK exporting to ppt format. It's not so great exporting to pptx. I'm preparing for a presentation tonight and am running into that. Impress also has some issues displaying animations, particularly if you want to save them as a ppt and display the presentation at a national

Re: LibreOffice version 4

2013-02-09 Thread Bill Oliver
Heh. Life is too short. I had to use TeX/LaTex when I was a grad student. When I left, I never looked back. billo On Sat, 9 Feb 2013, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 21:18 +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 09.02.2013, Gordan Bobic wrote: You would chose another distribution over

SEL problem

2013-02-09 Thread Roger
It seems that SELinux is preventing me from using httpd, it switches off apache when I change a page in Drupal I have temporarily set SEL to permissive as a test which seem successful, but whould like to know please where the settings are to grant me the appropriate permissions. Can you help