Re: tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partition on 1 external disk

2020-01-11 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
 
 
 
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Betreff: Re: tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partition on 1 external 
disk

On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 21:03:28 -
"Steven Usdansky"  wrote:

> I've got Rawhide, F31, F30, a couple of F29 installs, Manjaro and
> Ubuntu 19.10 on my external HD (UEFI system). The "trick" is to mount
> the same efi partition at /boot/efi for all of the installations. All
> Fedoras share the same /boot/efi/EFI/fedora directory, whereas
> Manjaro and Ubuntu each get their own directory under /boot/efi/EFI.

So does everything installed under /boot/efi come up in a menu?  And
does the grub.cfg in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora bring up a menu that lets you
select which fedora OS to boot?  That seems very straightforward.
Hi,in my case, I think I have to modify grub.cfg to bring up the entries for 
F30, F31
and Windows. But currently my know how about Grub is to low, so I have to learn 
about Grub.
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Re: OT: recommendations for a low-volume, ,> cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31

2020-01-11 Thread R. G. Newbury

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 7:15

PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

On 1/11/20 9:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:

On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a
while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are
goog suggestions then?


Look around for a used HP laser printer. I am using an HP1320 which I 
bought in May, 2005 for about $550 including an extra cartridge and tax. 
HP cartridges are expensive! I have no idea how many cartridges I have 
gone through, probably over a dozen, and it is as good as the day I 
bought it. Drivers are included with cups or hplip. The bare HP1320 
needs a ~$30 network print server if you want to network it, otherwise a 
parallel port!


If you want print/fax/scan, then one of the all in ones or 'MFP'. I have 
an HP3055 which I purchased in 2006 (to replace the fax machine which 
had died). I mainly use it for scanning now. It has builtin network 
capability. Again, the drivers are included in your basic install of 
cups or hplip.


A good one will probably cost you $50-$75. Off-brand cartridges cost 
about that. ATM there is an HP P2015d for sale used on kijiji.ca in the 
Toronto area for $80Cdn. Physically it looks exactly like the HP1320 and 
has duplex capability.  So... $60US???


I happen to like HP printers, but Brother printers do the same thing and 
are just about as dependable and long-lived. I've had Brother printers 
too. The best scanner I have ever used is a Brother ADS-1000. Once did 
over 650 pages in one continuous pass!


Geoff
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Re: Completely replacing F31 Ethernet package(s)? [RESOLVED]

2020-01-11 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 19:28 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 1/11/20 7:24 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
> > If you believe that 11-dhclient should be allowed getattr access on
> > the 
> > hostname file by default.
> > Then you should report this as a bug.
> > You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
> > Do
> > allow this access for now by executing:
> > # ausearch -c '11-dhclient' --raw | audit2allow -M my-11dhclient
> > # semodule -X 300 -i my-11dhclient.pp21
> 
> That seems like a bug or something mislabeled.
> 
> > Executing these two commands appears to have fixed the problem.
> 
> I suppose that will work, but it would have been better to solve the 
> underlying problem.
> 

If this is a bug, I believe it is caused by a problem in the major
version upgrade process.

Remember, this system has been upgraded twice:  F29 -> F30 Beta -> F31.
I had very significant SELinux problems after the first upgrade to F30
Beta. I must have had a hundred "ausearch" errors I had to fix just
like this one. At the suggestion of a friend, I was able to mass reset
the contexts in the / filesystem. Had I done a from scratch install of
F31, I don't think I would have encountered this problem. There may be
more bugs lurking, but at least now I have a tool to ID and fix them.

--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL


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Re: How do I disable obfuscation of my email addresss on Fedora lists?

2020-01-11 Thread Benjamin Lowry via users
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 19:24 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> The reason is most likely that whatever email hosting you are using 
> doesn't work well with mailing lists.  The modification of the from
> is 
> to avoid your emails to the list getting rejected by everyone when
> it's 
> sent out.  I think the term is DMARC.
Oh, that'd make sense. I'm self-hosting and my DMARC record is set up
to deny delivery for all domains except mine. I guess I'll have to
modify it to permit Fedora's mail server. Thanks for the tip. -ben


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Re: Completely replacing F31 Ethernet package(s)? [RESOLVED]

2020-01-11 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/11/20 7:24 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
If you believe that 11-dhclient should be allowed getattr access on the 
hostname file by default.

Then you should report this as a bug.
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
Do
allow this access for now by executing:
# ausearch -c '11-dhclient' --raw | audit2allow -M my-11dhclient
# semodule -X 300 -i my-11dhclient.pp21


That seems like a bug or something mislabeled.


Executing these two commands appears to have fixed the problem.


I suppose that will work, but it would have been better to solve the 
underlying problem.

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Re: How do I disable obfuscation of my email addresss on Fedora lists?

2020-01-11 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/11/20 6:29 PM, Benjamin Lowry via users wrote:

Currently, the From: field on any emails I send to Fedora lists gets
obfuscated, like:
"Benjamin Lowry via users "
How do I turn this behavior off? I'm fine with my real address getting
scraped by spambots or whatever. -ben


The reason is most likely that whatever email hosting you are using 
doesn't work well with mailing lists.  The modification of the from is 
to avoid your emails to the list getting rejected by everyone when it's 
sent out.  I think the term is DMARC.

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Re: Completely replacing F31 Ethernet package(s)? [RESOLVED]

2020-01-11 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
On Sat, 2020-01-04 at 22:16 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 1/1/20 7:20 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote:
> > It would seem that "something" happened to the file(s) that provide
> > RJ45 Ethernet connectivity maybe as far back as F29. I can get a
> > WiFi
> > connection, but not an RJ45 eth0 DHCP connection. This happens in
> > my
> > home and at a nearby computer store, so it's not my DHCP server.
> > 
> > When booted up to WiFi, connecting an RJ45 Ethernet cable shuts
> > down
> > the existing WiFi port (normal), but never comes up with a DHCP
> > address
> > for the eth0 port. The network icon just loops forever. When I
> > disconnect the RJ45 cable, WiFi connectivity resumes after 5-10
> > seconds.
> 
> I just realized we are missing what is probably the most
> important information, the logs!  In a terminal as root, run
> "journalctl -fa" and then plug in the ethernet cable.  Copy the
> output, removing private information if there is any.

THIS IS MY THIRD ATTEMPT TO REPLY WITH A LOG FILE ATTACHED. THE
MODERATOR EITHER DIDN'T REVIEW IT OR FELT THE SIZE OF THE MESSAGE WITH
ITS LOG FILE WAS NOT WORTH SHARING WITH THE LIST.

Sam,

You've found the magic key. The output is attached. If you open it with
vim and scroll down to line 167, you'll see an SELINUX audit error and
its recommended solution:

Jan 05 00:54:09 tiger.protogeek.org python3[905199]: SELinux is
preventing 11-dhclient from getattr access on the file
/usr/bin/hostname.


*  Plugin catchall (100. confidence)
suggests   **


If you believe that 11-dhclient should be allowed getattr access on the
hostname file by default.
Then you should report this as a bug.
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
Do
allow this access for now by executing:
# ausearch -c '11-dhclient' --raw | audit2allow -M my-11dhclient
# semodule -X 300 -i my-11dhclient.pp21

Executing these two commands appears to have fixed the problem.

--Doc Savage
Fairview Heights, IL

P.S. The performance boost is dramatic. The distance between my U-verse 
WiFi and the laptop in the master bedroom is about 65 feet through
quite a bit of drywall. It works, but downloads of any size are slow.
With the RJ45 connection I have high quality in-wall Cat5E cabling that
allows full speed GigE.

I definitely owe you several beers on this one. :-)
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Re: OT: recommendations for a low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31

2020-01-11 Thread Mauricio Tavares
On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 7:15 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
>
> On 1/11/20 9:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> >>> the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a
> >>> while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are
> >>> goog suggestions then?
> >>
> >> I'd say laser is the better option.  For text, they usually print
> >> better than inkjet do.  And you don't get smudging with moisture like
> >> ink does.
> >>
> >> Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find
> >> drivers for them.  Other brands may only work with their own special
> >> drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at
> >> the time they released their printer.  That's if they even make a Linux
> >> driver.
> >
> > That's probably good general advice, but I'll just repeat that my all-
> > in-one from Brother is just short of 6 years old and the proprietary
> > driver still works with F31, both for scanning and printing. At the
> > time it was markedly cheaper than the HP alternative, though that may
> > or may not be the case now.
>
> I got a Brother color laser recently and it prints and scans great with
> the driver from Brother.  Before that I had an HP color laser that also
> worked well.

I too have a very old (I know I've had it since before 2014 but that
is as far as I remember) Brother laser printer I paid $50 shipped new.
I've never installed a proprietary driver for it to work with cups. I
honestly do not know if I ever replaced the toner cartridge, but I
print so little a ream of paper lasts years. Small guy and does not do
scanning or duplex though, but never let me down.
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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-01-12 10:24, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>
>> I deleted the Admin Priv, Reboot, and then enabled.  I was prompted for the 
>> root PW and it does as expected.
>> Now, if one has not enabled the root user, then there is more to be done.
>
> Sure, but by default there is no root password and the user doesn't have 
> permission to change anything.

The OP did not indicate that that root hasn't been enabled.  FWIW, the OP 
indicated that KDE was being used.
Unlike a GNOME install, the KDE install does have a prompt for enabling the 
root user.  So, and I should have
asked, it wasn't clear if the root was enabled or not.  No one else asked that 
Q.  So, it seems, assumptions
were being made.

>
>> FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the 
>> user in the "wheel"
>> group.
>
> Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user.

I also should have asked "how" the OP lost admin privileges since it was stated 
by the OP
"Removing the privilege has removed my account from sudoers" which is 
inconsistent with the
the "wheel" group assumption.

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Re: tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partition on 1 external disk

2020-01-11 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 21:03:28 -
"Steven Usdansky"  wrote:

> I've got Rawhide, F31, F30, a couple of F29 installs, Manjaro and
> Ubuntu 19.10 on my external HD (UEFI system). The "trick" is to mount
> the same efi partition at /boot/efi for all of the installations. All
> Fedoras share the same /boot/efi/EFI/fedora directory, whereas
> Manjaro and Ubuntu each get their own directory under /boot/efi/EFI.

So does everything installed under /boot/efi come up in a menu?  And
does the grub.cfg in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora bring up a menu that lets you
select which fedora OS to boot?  That seems very straightforward.
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How do I disable obfuscation of my email addresss on Fedora lists?

2020-01-11 Thread Benjamin Lowry via users
Currently, the From: field on any emails I send to Fedora lists gets
obfuscated, like:
"Benjamin Lowry via users "
How do I turn this behavior off? I'm fine with my real address getting
scraped by spambots or whatever. -ben


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Re: firefox-72.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64 does nothing

2020-01-11 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 17:03:05 -0500
Sam Varshavchik  wrote:

> I held all Fedora updates for the last couple of weeks, and only
> updated firefox in order to pick up the critical vulnerability fix. I
> was planning to update fully again next week, but decided to just
> grab the firefox update now. The firefox 72 rpm installed without
> conflicts, but firefox just kept flipping me the finger, shaped like
> a blank page. It was not crashing, and there were no error messages
> if I ran it from a terminal. Just a big F. U. white screen.
> 
> On a few occasions, Firefox started to load my home page, but reached
> the conclusion that https://mail.google.com/u/0 – my home page – was
> corrupted.
> 
> I determined that this ust be a hidden ABI breakage with one of the  
> dependent packages. Firefox 72 started working again after I
> installed all available updates.
> 
> I reproduced this on three different machines, this sequence of
> events: firefix update is broke by itself, but starts working once
> all available Fedora updates are installed. Or if I downgrade to
> 71.0.15. But I ran out of available machines to experiment with.
> They're all now fully updated.
> 
> But I grabbed the complete list of packages that was updated on one
> of the boxes, if anyone wishes to find the ABI breakage violator.
> 
> One of the following packages must have an ABI break in it, that the
> current firefox build has a dependency on: 

My guess is nspr and nss.  
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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/11/20 5:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-01-12 08:40, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 1/11/20 6:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote:

      By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under 
kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed 
my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to 
reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?


Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you have 
unchecked the
box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"?

If so, they why not just check it again?


Once you remove adminstrator rights from yourself, you don't have permission to 
change it again.


Have you tried it???

I have

I deleted the Admin Priv, Reboot, and then enabled.  I was prompted for the 
root PW and it does as expected.
Now, if one has not enabled the root user, then there is more to be done.


Sure, but by default there is no root password and the user doesn't have 
permission to change anything.



FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the user in the 
"wheel"
group.


Yes, that's what administrator rights means for a user.
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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-01-12 09:18, Ed Greshko wrote:
> Kindly just dismiss what someone says without knowing what they've done.

Of course I meant to type...

Kindly *don't* just dismiss what someone.

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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-01-12 08:40, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 1/11/20 6:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote:
>>>      By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account 
>>> under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege 
>>> has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to 
>>> get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?
>>
>> Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you 
>> have unchecked the
>> box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"?
>>
>> If so, they why not just check it again?
>
> Once you remove adminstrator rights from yourself, you don't have permission 
> to change it again.

Have you tried it???

I have

I deleted the Admin Priv, Reboot, and then enabled.  I was prompted for the 
root PW and it does as expected.
Now, if one has not enabled the root user, then there is more to be done.

Kindly just dismiss what someone says without knowing what they've done.

FWIW, the "System Settings" process that I'm talking about simply places the 
user in the "wheel"
group.


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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Benjamin Lowry via users
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:54 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
>  Hi,
>  By mistake I removed administration privileges from my
> account 
> under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the
> privilege 
> has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I
> have 
> to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?
> 
> regards,
> Steve
You should be able to boot into a root shell by entering grub and
adding "init=/bin/bash" to the end of your kernel command line. You can
probably find detailed instructions with some googling, but basically
after you do that you can remount the root drive as read/write and then
readd your user to the wheel (admin) group. -ben


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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/11/20 6:05 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote:

         By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under 
kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has removed 
my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get it back to 
reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?


Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you have 
unchecked the
box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"?

If so, they why not just check it again?


Once you remove adminstrator rights from yourself, you don't have 
permission to change it again.

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Re: OT: recommendations for a low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31

2020-01-11 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 1/11/20 9:14 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:

On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a
while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are
goog suggestions then?


I'd say laser is the better option.  For text, they usually print
better than inkjet do.  And you don't get smudging with moisture like
ink does.

Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find
drivers for them.  Other brands may only work with their own special
drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at
the time they released their printer.  That's if they even make a Linux
driver.


That's probably good general advice, but I'll just repeat that my all-
in-one from Brother is just short of 6 years old and the proprietary
driver still works with F31, both for scanning and printing. At the
time it was markedly cheaper than the HP alternative, though that may
or may not be the case now.


I got a Brother color laser recently and it prints and scans great with 
the driver from Brother.  Before that I had an HP color laser that also 
worked well.

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Re: firefox-72.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64 does nothing

2020-01-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Tom Horsley writes:


On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 15:42:02 -0500
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> Is anyone also having problems with this update.

No problem here with firefox-72.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64
I just went to cnn.com and it displayed stuff
normally (I don't usually use firefox, so this
is probably the first time I months I've run it).


I held all Fedora updates for the last couple of weeks, and only updated  
firefox in order to pick up the critical vulnerability fix. I was planning  
to update fully again next week, but decided to just grab the firefox update  
now. The firefox 72 rpm installed without conflicts, but firefox just kept  
flipping me the finger, shaped like a blank page. It was not crashing, and  
there were no error messages if I ran it from a terminal. Just a big F. U.  
white screen.


On a few occasions, Firefox started to load my home page, but reached the  
conclusion that https://mail.google.com/u/0 – my home page – was corrupted.


I determined that this ust be a hidden ABI breakage with one of the  
dependent packages. Firefox 72 started working again after I installed all  
available updates.


I reproduced this on three different machines, this sequence of events:  
firefix update is broke by itself, but starts working once all available  
Fedora updates are installed. Or if I downgrade to 71.0.15. But I ran out of  
available machines to experiment with. They're all now fully updated.


But I grabbed the complete list of packages that was updated on one of the  
boxes, if anyone wishes to find the ABI breakage violator.


One of the following packages must have an ABI break in it, that the current  
firefox build has a dependency on: 


Installing:
kernel x86_64 5.4.8-200.fc31 updates-released-local   42 k
kernel-corex86_64 5.4.8-200.fc31 updates-released-local   31 M
kernel-modules x86_64 5.4.8-200.fc31 updates-released-local   29 M
Upgrading:
alsa-firmware  noarch 1.2.1-4.fc31   updates-released-local  3.8 M
blender-fonts  noarch 1:2.81a-3.fc31 updates-released-local  4.7 M
dconf-editor   x86_64 3.34.3-1.fc31  updates-released-local  641 k
eogx86_64 3.34.2-1.fc31  updates-released-local  3.1 M
epiphany-runtime   x86_64 1:3.34.3.1-1.fc31  updates-released-local  1.4 M
exox86_64 0.12.11-1.fc31 updates-released-local  690 k
firefoxx86_64 72.0.1-1.fc31  updates-released-local   98 M
geolite2-city  noarch 20191217-1.fc31updates-released-local   23 M
geolite2-country   noarch 20191217-1.fc31updates-released-local  1.7 M
gjsx86_64 1.58.4-1.fc31  updates-released-local  453 k
glib-networkingx86_64 2.62.3-1.fc31  updates-released-local  155 k
glib2  x86_64 2.62.4-1.fc31  updates-released-local  2.6 M
gnome-autoar   x86_64 0.2.4-1.fc31   updates-released-local   56 k
gnome-desktop3 x86_64 3.34.3-1.fc31  updates-released-local  555 k
gnome-shellx86_64 3.34.3-1.fc31  updates-released-local  1.5 M
hwdata noarch 0.331-1.fc31   updates-released-local  1.4 M
iagno  x86_64 3.34.4-1.fc31  updates-released-local  609 k
ibus-typing-boosternoarch 2.7.4-1.fc31   updates-released-local  593 k
iptables   x86_64 1.8.3-7.fc31   updates-released-local  466 k
iptables-libs  x86_64 1.8.3-7.fc31   updates-released-local   56 k
iptables-services  x86_64 1.8.3-7.fc31   updates-released-local   16 k
kernel-headers x86_64 5.4.7-200.fc31 updates-released-local  1.2 M
kf5-kdeclarative   x86_64 5.64.0-2.fc31  updates-released-local  297 k
kf5-kwayland   x86_64 5.64.0-2.fc31  updates-released-local  510 k
kf5-kxmlguix86_64 5.64.0-2.fc31  updates-released-local  805 k
kwin   x86_64 5.17.4-2.fc31  updates-released-local   35 k
kwin-commonx86_64 5.17.4-2.fc31  updates-released-local  2.7 M
kwin-libs  x86_64 5.17.4-2.fc31  updates-released-local  1.5 M
langtable  noarch 0.0.50-1.fc31  updates-released-local   46 k
libinput   x86_64 1.15.0-1.fc31  updates-released-local  204 k
libnfsidmapx86_64 1:2.4.2-3.rc3.fc31 updates-released-local   72 k
libtirpc   x86_64 1.2.5-0.fc31   updates-released-local   97 k
libxml2x86_64 2.9.10-2.fc31  updates-released-local  693 k
mkpasswd   x86_64 5.5.4-1.fc31   updates-released-local   41 k
mutter x86_64 3.34.3-1.fc31  updates-released-local  2.6 M
nfs-utils  x86_64 1:2.4.2-3.rc3.fc31 updates-released-local  451 k
nspr   x86_64 4.24.0-1.fc31  updates-released-local  138 k
nssx86_64 3.48.0-1.fc31  updates-released-local  665 k
nss-softoknx86_64 3.48.0-1.fc31  

Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/11/2020 05:54 AM, Stephen Morris wrote:
Is the only course of action I have to get it back to reinstall F29 and 
then upgrage to F31?


Why would you do that when you can simply install F31 over your existing 
installation?

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Re: tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partition on 1 external disk

2020-01-11 Thread Steven Usdansky
I've got Rawhide, F31, F30, a couple of F29 installs, Manjaro and Ubuntu 19.10 
on my external HD (UEFI system). The "trick" is to mount the same efi partition 
at /boot/efi for all of the installations. All Fedoras share the same 
/boot/efi/EFI/fedora directory, whereas Manjaro and Ubuntu each get their own 
directory under /boot/efi/EFI. 
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Re: firefox-72.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64 does nothing

2020-01-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 15:42:02 -0500
Sam Varshavchik wrote:

> Is anyone also having problems with this update.

No problem here with firefox-72.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64
I just went to cnn.com and it displayed stuff
normally (I don't usually use firefox, so this
is probably the first time I months I've run it).
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firefox-72.0.1-1.fc31.x86_64 does nothing

2020-01-11 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Is anyone also having problems with this update.

It does …nothing. Opening any URL results in a brief "connecting", then an  
empty page.


dnf downgrade returns me back to 69.0.1, looking for a more recent build in  
bodhi…




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Re: OT: recommendations for a low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31

2020-01-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 23:18 +1030, Tim via users wrote:
> On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> > the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a
> > while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are
> > goog suggestions then?
> 
> I'd say laser is the better option.  For text, they usually print
> better than inkjet do.  And you don't get smudging with moisture like
> ink does.
> 
> Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find
> drivers for them.  Other brands may only work with their own special
> drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at
> the time they released their printer.  That's if they even make a Linux
> driver.

That's probably good general advice, but I'll just repeat that my all-
in-one from Brother is just short of 6 years old and the proprietary
driver still works with F31, both for scanning and printing. At the
time it was markedly cheaper than the HP alternative, though that may
or may not be the case now.

poc
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Re: Does Fedora 31 works fine on an AMD Ryzen 7 2700?

2020-01-11 Thread ja
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:57 -0700, linux guy wrote:
> I did an install yesterday on a X570 with a 3600X.   It works perfectly.  
> Only issue is sensors isn't
> seeing any fan speeds.
> 
> It's amazing how many processes you can run in the background while the 
> computer remains responsive to
> regular work.
> ___
> 

No problems here.

Very pleased with the machine.

ASUS X570 Crosshair VIII Impact MB

John


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Re: tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partition on 1 external disk

2020-01-11 Thread stan via users
On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:59:43 + (UTC)
Joerg Lechner via users  wrote:

> Hi,tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partitions on 1
> external disk, no success, got either only F30 and Windows boot
> (internal disk is Windows 10) or F31 and Windows boot. Did anyone
> install 2 Fedora versions on 1 disk in seperate partitions? Grub
> shows after installation either F30 and Windows, or F31 and Windows.
> Kind RegardsJoerg

From a discussion on this list last year, it is my understanding that
UEFI does not allow that.  It's because the /boot/efi/EFI/fedora
partition can only contain one fedora OS.  Chris Murphy offered some
potential workarounds in that thread, but if I recall, they were not
simple.  I think one of them was to use systemd to boot, but I don't
recall the details.
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Re: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-01-11 20:54, Stephen Morris wrote:
>         By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account under 
> kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege has 
> removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have to get 
> it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?

Are you saying that in the "User Manager" section of "System Settings" you have 
unchecked the
box "Enable administrator privileges for this user"?

If so, they why not just check it again? 

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RE: Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Patrick Laimbock
>      Hi,
>          By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account 
> under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege 
> has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have 
> to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?

Use the procedure below to add yourself back to sudoers
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/21/html/System_Administrators_Guide/sec-Changing_and_Resetting_the_Root_Password.html#proc-Resetting_the_Root_Password_Using_rd.break

Best,
Patrick
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Loss of Administrative Privileges on Only Account

2020-01-11 Thread Stephen Morris

    Hi,
        By mistake I removed administration privileges from my account 
under kde, which is the only account that had it. Removing the privilege 
has removed my account from sudoers. Is the only course of action I have 
to get it back to reinstall F29 and then upgrage to F31?


regards,
Steve
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Re: OT: recommendations for a low-volume, cheap-to-use/maintain home printer for use with Fedora 31

2020-01-11 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 09:25 -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
> the printing is largely of documents, but the printer sits for a
> while doing nothing. I guess laser is the way to go then? What are
> goog suggestions then?

I'd say laser is the better option.  For text, they usually print
better than inkjet do.  And you don't get smudging with moisture like
ink does.

Hewlett Packard printers are likely to work without you having to find
drivers for them.  Other brands may only work with their own special
drivers, that they only bother to make for a few releases of Linux at
the time they released their printer.  That's if they even make a Linux
driver.
 
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Fwd: tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partition on 1 external disk

2020-01-11 Thread Joerg Lechner via users

Hi,tried to install F30 and F31 on 2 separate Partitions on 1 external disk, no 
success, got either only F30 and Windows boot (internal disk is Windows 10) or 
F31 and Windows boot. Did anyone install 2 Fedora versions on 1 disk in 
seperate partitions? Grub shows after installation either F30 and Windows, or 
F31 and Windows. 
Kind RegardsJoerg


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