Re: router silence.
On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:54 -0600, home user wrote: > That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) > This reply is going through the router. It could be that *your* modem and/or router doesn't need power cycling, in general, but that it randomly goofed and needed it this time. You can test that. Unplug its data leads, leave it powered up. Some time later, repatch it, and see if things just work. It may also depend on things like; do you leave your modem always powered? Some people leave everything off, and the individual lengths of time it takes for their modems and routers to boot up means that things always work for them, or randomly don't work. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.42.2.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Sep 7 14:49:57 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Gnome Nautilus and no thumbnails from connected Android storage
On 10/25/21 07:03, lejeczek via users wrote: On 25/10/2021 02:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-10-24 17:55, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2021-10-24 at 16:34 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: This is intentional. In order to make thumbnails, it would have to read the entire files from the device over the slow MTP link. Most people would be very unhappy about that because they wouldn't be able to do anything else until everything is read from the phone. The same can be said about other networking protocols, which is why we had options to display them, or not, and let us make the choice about consequences. You don't get thumbnails with sshfs or ftp (if you can still even use that), etc. I don't know about any options for that. False! - we do get thumbnails, certainly with 'sftp' on my LAN I get them no problems, in Nautilus. L. Trying to find a photo from a phone is a pain, they don't have useful filenames. You've got to go trawling through them all to find something. If you're organised, you might move photos into sensible folder names as you go along. And you might decide that it is worth turning on thumbnails to find the specific photo out of 20 from last week's birthday party. I agree it's a pain getting a photo from a phone. That's why I copy them all off before trying to find one. I would certainly not want Nautilus to be trying to make thumbnails because that would make it almost useless. It would take the same amount of time to copy the files as it would to make the thumbnails and I would now have the pictures in a useful location. ___ Similar behavior with iPhone, no thumbnails. Windows generates thumbnails with sometimes visible sequencing but really only a minor delay. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: router silence. [solved]
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 15:22:14 -0600 home user wrote: > Ed's solution worked. On the Fedora workstation, e-mail works both > ways; I surfed the web successfully. The ipad upgraded its OS > successfully, and after rebooting,I reached a web site via navigator. Check the dumb stuff first is always my philosophy (often not followed until I go DOH! a few hours later :-). My netgear RAX 200 sometimes gets into a weird state where everything can access the internet fine, but wireless devices on my local network can't talk to each other. I've finally learned to reboot the router when that happens. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: router silence. [solved]
On 10/25/21 1:54 PM, home user wrote: On 10/25/21 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote: (maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome) Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad. But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin. Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday. The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working? For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old. Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes? My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect. I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system. That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router. The ipad is currently upgrading its os through the router. If after a while, everything is still good, I'll close this thread. Thank-you, Ed. Ed's solution worked. On the Fedora workstation, e-mail works both ways; I surfed the web successfully. The ipad upgraded its OS successfully, and after rebooting,I reached a web site via navigator. Thank-you for your help, Ed. I consider this thread SOLVED. Bill. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: router silence.
On 10/25/21 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote: (maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome) Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad. But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin. Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday. The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working? For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old. Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes? My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect. I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system. That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router. The ipad is currently upgrading its os through the router. If after a while, everything is still good, I'll close this thread. Thank-you, Ed. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
F33 => F34 - gphoto2 not working?
People, Upgrading from: F33 / Xorg / XFCE to: F34 / Wayland / Sway seems to have caused gphoto2 to stop working (it does not discover any device plugged into a USB port) when I plug in my GoPro Black 4 now. I can't see why Wayland and Sway would make a difference - what else could it be? I used to be able to plug the camera in, see the red light for charging, wait until it was fully charged and the light went out and then push the button to get the USB connection. I am not 100% sure but the little LCD screen seems to be displaying something different now - a power plug icon plus the USB icon - I seem to remember it was different before but Googling didn't help . . Any suggestions for debugging would be appreciated! Regards, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: router silence.
ok. good idea. this will take a while. I'll report back. On 10/25/21 1:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote: (maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome) Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad. But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin. Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday. The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working? For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old. Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes? My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect. I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system. -- On Facebook it is called Vaguebooking. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: router silence.
On 25/10/2021 22:36, home user wrote: (maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome) Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad. But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin. Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday. The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working? For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old. Did you power cycle the modem after making the wiring changes? My ADSL modem auto-configures itself when powered up. If I make changes to the wiring a power-off/on is required for them to take effect. I would, power-cycle the modem. Waiting sufficient time for it to come up. Mine has a red LED that will go out when it becomes ready. Then restart the D-Link. Waiting again. And then down/up the network on the Fedora system. -- On Facebook it is called Vaguebooking. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
router silence.
(maybe OT) (dual boot: fedora-34 and windows-7; gnome) Usually, I use my home workstation with a direct ethernet connection to my modem. A yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. Occasionally, I go through a router. The yellow cable goes from the modem to the yellow receptacle on the back of the router, and a blue cable goes from any of 4 black receptacles on the back of the router to the yellow receptacle on the back of the tower. This has worked fine for a few years now: for the tower (both Fedora and windows) and for my ipad. But now it does not work: not for Fedora, not for windows, not for the ipad. Fedora shows no connection; I've found no way of diagnosing the problem. The ipad seems to sense the wifi signal, but there's no hint of data (all attempts to use the internet time out); I don't know of any way of diagnosing the problem. In windows, the indicator shows no internet connection; its diagnostic tool says something about "teredo" being disabled? deactivated? by the sysadmin. Using the router last worked in mid August (fedora-33 on my workstation). I did not attempt to use it between then and this past Wednesday. The upgrade from f-33 to f-34 occurred between the last time I successfully used the router and the first time it didn't work. Is that just a coincidence, or did the upgrade have something to do with it? How do I get my workstation, ipad, and the router working? For the f-33 to f-34 upgrade, the tower was connected directly to the modem; the router wasn't even powered up. But might f-34 have done something to the router when I connected them? The router is a D-Link AC1200; it's between 3 and 4 years old. Thank-you in advance. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ?
I have success to report the two broken, Regards. Dorian Rosse. From: Matthew Miller Sent: Friday, October 22, 2021 12:35:58 AM To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Does the program llvm break all the hardware or only some of it ? On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 09:50:41PM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote: > The LLVM Project is a collection of modular and reusable compiler and > toolchain technologies. Despite its name, LLVM has little to do with > traditional virtual machines. The name "LLVM" itself is not an acronym; it is > the full name of the project. I think a PR at https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/llvm/blob/rawhide/f/llvm.spec to update the Summary would be the most helpful thing in this case (along with, of course, an explanatory comment). -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Gnome Nautilus and no thumbnails from connected Android storage
On 25/10/2021 02:06, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-10-24 17:55, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2021-10-24 at 16:34 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: This is intentional. In order to make thumbnails, it would have to read the entire files from the device over the slow MTP link. Most people would be very unhappy about that because they wouldn't be able to do anything else until everything is read from the phone. The same can be said about other networking protocols, which is why we had options to display them, or not, and let us make the choice about consequences. You don't get thumbnails with sshfs or ftp (if you can still even use that), etc. I don't know about any options for that. False! - we do get thumbnails, certainly with 'sftp' on my LAN I get them no problems, in Nautilus. L. Trying to find a photo from a phone is a pain, they don't have useful filenames. You've got to go trawling through them all to find something. If you're organised, you might move photos into sensible folder names as you go along. And you might decide that it is worth turning on thumbnails to find the specific photo out of 20 from last week's birthday party. I agree it's a pain getting a photo from a phone. That's why I copy them all off before trying to find one. I would certainly not want Nautilus to be trying to make thumbnails because that would make it almost useless. It would take the same amount of time to copy the files as it would to make the thumbnails and I would now have the pictures in a useful location. ___ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
