Re: Message threading on this list
On 24/11/2021 06:06, John Pilkington wrote: I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival. Threaded display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random partway up the display. Is there a fix? As far as I can tell, threading is working as designed and T-Bird is following the RFC. Since I'm replying to the initial message the headers being used by T-Bird are the In-Reply-To: and References:. So this reply won't be sorted with the messages that were also replies to the initial post since my reply will lack References: <7b78fada-752f-8900-b2ec-07752cee7...@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: It will probably appear at the end of the thread based on the time/date this is sent. If you want to view the thread in chronological order without regard to this "sub" sorting then you probably want to use the gmail web interface. Frankly, one feature I would like to see implemented in T-Bird is a way to ignore and not show some of these "sub" sorted items within a thread that veer off on meaningless (at least to me) tangents. -- Did 황준호 die? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Message threading on this list
On 11/23/21 9:19 PM, Tim via users wrote: Other people manage to do this, why can't you? (That's a generic "everyone else" you question, I'm not referencing you John.) Because nobody ever taught them how to do it and they don't know how to learn things like that on their own. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Message threading on this list
On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 22:06 +, John Pilkington wrote: > I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival. Threaded > display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by > Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers > is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random > partway up the display. Is there a fix? For message *threading* to work, that is a replies are tied to the message it replied to, in order of the message progression, regardless of date (which some people have wrong, or delay posting so arrival date sorting will end up being wrong), a few things have to occur: People have to use mail clients that work properly. When replying they add the proper in-reply-to and reference headers. Various mail clients don't do this, especially some web-mail interfaces. With those headers munged up, threading is impossible. The answer to that is people *need* to stop using mail clients and systems that don't work properly, *ESPECIALLY* on mailing lists. And people have to use their mail clients properly. They have to hit reply on the message they're replying to, not another message, nor incorrectly use forward instead of reply. So when replying to John Doe's comment, reply to *his* email, and *not* a message three generations later that quoted him, nor a completely unrelated message to your response. If you've read through a thread then decide to reply, reply to the right message, not just the last one you read. The answer to that is people need to do things properly, *ESPECIALLY* on mailing lists. Other people manage to do this, why can't you? (That's a generic "everyone else" you question, I'm not referencing you John.) With the failure of proper use and participation you're left with *trying* to aggregate threads together with the same subject lines and sort them by date. This fails when some mail clients and servers mangle subject lines, when some people change them when they shouldn't, or don't change them when they should, and when their computer's date and timezone are wrong, when they reply in the wrong place, or they draft a post and don't send it for ages. Unthreading reading, where you just plod through messages as they lob in is not guaranteed to put them in correct sequence, either. Messages may not be sent in sequence, and some may get delayed in transit. And, as previously said, the way people send delayed replies, or respond in a different order than they read through a thread, also changes the sequence of transmission and reception. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.45.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 13 17:20:51 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 12:58 -0600, Roger Heflin wrote: > This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that > I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name > (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* > stopped a while ago at 340 I think. If your card just stopped > working it is probably a GK* variant card. > > But some models have 2 generations of chips. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series I gave up on NVidia video a long time ago, and this is one of the things that bugs me about having cards that *could* be used, but if only you could figure out how to do it: *It's* the damn computer, why should *we* have to figure out which driver to install? Either they could have one large package with everything it needs to install the one that you do (somewhat akin to CUPS, though I know it doesn't have absolutely everything within itself). Or, they could have a detector package which surveys your graphics hardware and picks the right driver package to download and install. I had to go through the same crap with Windows 98SE, eons ago: You'd buy a card and it came with a driver CD-ROM full of a gazillion drivers for your card, and a plethora of other things (often with dozens of things unrelated to your kind of hardware). Then, you had to figure out which one to install by divine inspiration. It didn't probe and do it (or if it did, it got it wrong). Your best chance was to look at the chipsets on the card, and try to find a driver with similar details in the filename. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.45.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Oct 13 17:20:51 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Message threading on this list
John, On 2021-11-24 09:06, John Pilkington wrote: I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival. Threaded display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random partway up the display. Is there a fix? I haven't looked at it but if the threading is broken it is because people are replying outside of the thread - creating new threads - it is annoying but there is not a lot you can do about it . . I use a RoundCubeMaill client and when your problem is TOO painful, I do switch to time sorted individual mails but that is frequently not a great solution either . . P. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Message threading on this list
On 23/11/2021 22:26, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/23/21 14:06, John Pilkington wrote: I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival. Threaded display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random partway up the display. Is there a fix? You can't use threaded mode in Thunderbird then, because there's no way to do what you want. You have to sort only by date. You might be able to keep a topic together by also sorting by subject, but I don't know how those two sorting options would interact. I do sort by date, because that's the way conversations work. The other views just confuse matters. It's worse than top posting. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On 11/23/21 13:02, Tim Evans wrote: OK, looks like I'm good with version 470xx $ lspci | grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1) $ rpm -qa | grep akmod-nvidia akmod-nvidia-470xx-470.82.00-1.fc35.x86_64 So, to repeat my question about a dnf exclude: In the absence of any exclude in the dnf.conf file, what prevents the next 'dnf update' from installing a version later than 470xx (e.g., 495), which doesn't work with this video adaptor? They are different packages, not different versions. "akmod-nvidia" is not an upgrade for "akmod-nvidia-470xx" which is not an upgrade for "akmod-nvidia-390xx". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On 24/11/2021 05:02, Tim Evans wrote: On 11/23/21 13:58, Roger Heflin wrote: This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* stopped a while ago at 340 I think. If your card just stopped working it is probably a GK* variant card. But some models have 2 generations of chips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 12:26 PM Slade Watkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 1:22 PM Roger Heflin wrote: Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably needs 340(GF108). OK, looks like I'm good with version 470xx $ lspci | grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1) $ rpm -qa | grep akmod-nvidia akmod-nvidia-470xx-470.82.00-1.fc35.x86_64 So, to repeat my question about a dnf exclude: In the absence of any exclude in the dnf.conf file, what prevents the next 'dnf update' from installing a version later than 470xx (e.g., 495), which doesn't work with this video adaptor? It won't since the 495 versions come with akmod-nvidia. The package names don't match. There is akmod-nvidia.x86_64 3:495.44-1.fc35 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates akmod-nvidia-340xx.x86_64 1:340.108-15.fc35 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates akmod-nvidia-390xx.x86_64 3:390.144-3.fc35 rpmfusion-nonfree akmod-nvidia-470xx.x86_64 3:470.82.00-1.fc35 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates The names must match exactly. -- Did 황준호 die? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Message threading on this list
On 11/23/21 14:06, John Pilkington wrote: I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival. Threaded display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random partway up the display. Is there a fix? You can't use threaded mode in Thunderbird then, because there's no way to do what you want. You have to sort only by date. You might be able to keep a topic together by also sorting by subject, but I don't know how those two sorting options would interact. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Message threading on this list
I'm used to reading messages in order of time of arrival. Threaded display in Thunderbird, or the presentation of the archive by Hyperkitty, doesn't do this; the current thread about NVIDIA drivers is utterly disjointed in both, with recent posts buried at random partway up the display. Is there a fix? John P ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
virt-viewer light theme?
HI All, FC35 Xfce 4.16 virt-viewer-10.0-4.fc35.x86_64 Is there a way to switch virt-viewer's decorations from its current dark theme to a light or different theme? Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On 11/23/21 13:58, Roger Heflin wrote: This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* stopped a while ago at 340 I think. If your card just stopped working it is probably a GK* variant card. But some models have 2 generations of chips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 12:26 PM Slade Watkins wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 1:22 PM Roger Heflin wrote: Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably needs 340(GF108). OK, looks like I'm good with version 470xx $ lspci | grep -i nvidia 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208B [GeForce GT 730] (rev a1) $ rpm -qa | grep akmod-nvidia akmod-nvidia-470xx-470.82.00-1.fc35.x86_64 So, to repeat my question about a dnf exclude: In the absence of any exclude in the dnf.conf file, what prevents the next 'dnf update' from installing a version later than 470xx (e.g., 495), which doesn't work with this video adaptor? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: F35 install doesn't find existing Windows installation
On Sat, Nov 6, 2021 at 2:12 PM Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > I have a Lenovo Yoga X1 (2nd generation), on which I was happily > running a dual boot of the original Windows 10 installation that came > with the machine and Fedora 34, which I had upgraded through a few > versions of Fedora. > > This time, I decided to do a fresh install of Fedora 35 (to try out > BTRFS), but when the installation finished, there was no option to boot > Windows. Did you install Fedora on the same physical drive as Windows? And was a 2nd drive involved in the installation? And what do you get for 'efibootmgr -v' ? There are some edge cases where you get what you describe, and it suggests the initial grub2-mkconfig at the end of installation didn't find the Windows boot loader. There's also a gotcha with recent installations of Windows 10 which automatically encrypt the Windows installation and sequester the encryption key in the TPM. The only way the key is revealed is when measured boot indicates the system isn't compromised. The problem is that booting shim+grub results in measured boot failure when choosing the Windows boot entry, and while Windows does boot, it also asks for the recovery key for the drive. The alternative is use the firmware's built-in boot-manager (boot selection menu) to choose Windows. On my Lenovo laptop you can get to this menu with F9 (or press enter at the logo screen, which gets you a function key lookup chart superimposed on the splash, which shows F9). And from there choose the Windows Boot Manager. -- Chris Murphy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
I have try to start a VM from a iso live Fedora 35 Workstation and the problem with libreoffice still exist. https://i.imgur.com/twOVYi2.png I have not install fedora, only try and simple open Libreoffice and the font into font selection menu are wreid Is this a know issue? Many thanks Dario Il giorno mar, 23/11/2021 alle 14.47 +0100, Dario Lesca ha scritto: > On my Notebook with Fedora 34 up to date (also on 35 new installation > on VM) some application show part of your text message with weird font > like this: > > Torbrowser: https://i.imgur.com/7FRv4Xu.png > Libreoffice: https://i.imgur.com/9tkRqwH.png > > On another PC with Fedora 34 up to date like my notebook this problem > not occurr and all work fine. > > If I login with a new user the problem still exist > > Seem a video driver or some package not installed o some other strange > think on my notebook > > Someone can help me to analyse and resolve this issue? > > Many thanks > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en- > US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject > .org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora- > infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
Il giorno mar, 23/11/2021 alle 10.18 -0500, Tom Horsley ha scritto: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:10:43 -0400 > George N. White III wrote: > > > You should compare the > > font settings between the two systems. > > Or at least the list of installed fonts on the two systems > > rpm -q -a | fgrep font > > should get you a list. The rpm + grep command show same rpms on both system For torbrowser I have resolve modify its fonts.conf config file ~/.local/share/torbrowser/tbb/x86_64/tor- browser_it/Browser/TorBrowser/Data/fontconfig/fonts.conf change "fonts" to "fonts" You can suggest some other things I can compare to resolve system wide my problem? Many thanks Dario ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
This is the magic decoder ring web page. The most recent cards that I think were kicked out are anything with a GK* in the code name (kepler). So any kepler cards seem to stop at 470.X. And GF* stopped a while ago at 340 I think. If your card just stopped working it is probably a GK* variant card. But some models have 2 generations of chips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units#GeForce_700_series On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 12:26 PM Slade Watkins wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 1:22 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > > > Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants > > of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is > > supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably > > needs 340(GF108). > > Roger, > > I know, at least for my card (GT 740) it worked with 470. Obviously, > as you alluded to, you'll have to go based off whatever variant you > have. > > -slade > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
Il giorno mar, 23/11/2021 alle 18.13 +0100, Ulf Volmer ha scritto: > The issue with the torborwser is handled at > > https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser-build/- > /issues/40382 > > There is also a workaround described Thank, this work around work for torbrowser: Modify line 37 from "fonts" to "fonts" Now I'm looking for why this notebook and a new fedora 35 fresh installed have this problem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 1:22 PM Roger Heflin wrote: > > Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants > of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is > supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably > needs 340(GF108). Roger, I know, at least for my card (GT 740) it worked with 470. Obviously, as you alluded to, you'll have to go based off whatever variant you have. -slade ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
Just to confuse things, there are at least 2 very different Variants of GeForce GT 730's. One is based on Kepler and I know is supported by 470.x(GK208B), and there is an older one that probably needs 340(GF108). I have been studying the nvidia cards to sort out which ones do x264 encoding and which don't and the different variants of the same model number just make you wonder why nvidia made it so complicated to tell the differences. On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 3:51 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 23/11/2021 03:52, Tim Evans wrote: > > On 11/13/21 11:10, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > >> To switch back to nouveau, just "dnf erase akmod-nvidia-39xx". > >> > >> This will revert the changes to the linux boot parameters. > > > > # dnf remove akmod-nvidia-470.74-1.fc35.x86_64 > > Dependencies resolved. > > > > Package Arch Version Repository Size > > > > Removing: > > akmod-nvidiax86_64 3:470.74-1.fc35 @rpmfusion-nonfree > > 22 k > > Removing unused dependencies: > > akmods noarch 0.5.6-28.fc35 @fedora 37 k > > debugedit x86_64 5.0-2.fc35 @fedora190 k > > fakerootx86_64 1.26-4.fc35 @updates 152 k > > fakeroot-libs x86_64 1.26-4.fc35 @updates 133 k > > http-parser x86_64 2.9.4-5.fc35@fedora100 k > > kmodtoolnoarch 1-43.fc35 @fedora 18 k > > kojinoarch 1.26.1-1.fc35 @updates 712 k > > libgit2 x86_64 1.1.0-5.fc35@fedora1.1 M > > python3-gssapi x86_64 1.6.14-2.fc35 @fedora1.9 M > > python3-kojinoarch 1.26.1-1.fc35 @updates 1.5 M > > python3-progressbar2noarch 3.53.2-2.fc35 @fedora208 k > > python3-pygit2 x86_64 1.6.1-1.fc35@fedora860 k > > python3-requests-gssapi noarch 1.2.3-3.fc35@fedora 54 k > > python3-rpmautospec noarch 0.2.5-1.fc35@fedora 74 k > > python3-utils noarch 2.5.6-3.fc35@fedora798 k > > rpm-build x86_64 4.17.0-1.fc35 @fedora142 k > > rpmdevtools noarch 9.5-2.fc35 @fedora219 k > > xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc x86_64 3:495.44-4.fc35 > > @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates > > > > 26 M > > zstdx86_64 1.5.0-2.fc35@fedora1.9 M > > > > Transaction Summary > > > > Remove 20 Packages > > > > Freed space: 36 M > > Is this ok [y/N]: n > > > > Looks like a lot of stuff to be removed. > > That's about right. No other packages on your system depend on those > packages, so they will get removed. > > > > > The 4.95 version that came down with FC35 does not support my GeForce GT > > 730. Did a dnf downgrade to version 470.x, but that's not working with F35 > > kernel--auto-fallback to Nouveau. And, as noted this looks like a lot of > > stuff to be removed to get rid of the driver altogether. Stuff looks a > > little flaky--Thunderbird came up in a window the size of a postage stamp, > > but maximizing it made it ok. > > > > Advice? Thanks. > > GeForce GT 730 is supported by akmod-nvidia-340xx. > > I am not sure if this has been pushed to rpmfusion-nonfree. But the version > that works with the newer kernels is nvidia-340xx-kmod-340.108-15.fc35. > > You may have to "dnf --enablerepo=rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing install > akmod-nvidia-340xx". And, you may have to > edit your dnf.conf to exclude this package from updates for the time being or > it will get downgraded. Suggest you test without > enabling the testing repo to see if the correct version is installed. > > > > -- > > Did 황준호 die? > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
On 23.11.21 14:47, Dario Lesca wrote: On my Notebook with Fedora 34 up to date (also on 35 new installation on VM) some application show part of your text message with weird font like this: Torbrowser: https://i.imgur.com/7FRv4Xu.png Libreoffice: https://i.imgur.com/9tkRqwH.png The issue with the torborwser is handled at https://gitlab.torproject.org/tpo/applications/tor-browser-build/-/issues/40382 There is also a workaround described. Best regards Ulf ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On 23/11/2021 14:17, Tim Evans wrote:
On 11/22/21 19:32, Ed Greshko wrote:
Actually, the exclude was needed when the akmod-nvidia-340xx package
was in the rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing. Without the
exclude the akmod-nvidia-340xx would get downgraded to the broken
version.
I just removed the exclude from my configuration which confirms the
package was moved to stable.
And a check on a system without nvidia hardware.
[root@f35k ~]# dnf list available | grep akmod-nvidia-340xx
akmod-nvidia-340xx.x86_64 1:340.108-15.fc35 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
Which is the "fixed" version for the newer kernels.
Guess I am misunderstanding 'exclude.' Without it here, what's to
prevent future updates from installing the >340xx versions that don't
support my card, and that I just de-installed? Thanks.
According to the nVidia 'Advanced driver search', the GT730 is supported
by the driver series from 390 to 470. I have the GT710 in F34 with 470.
https://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
Instructions from Rpmfusion are copied below. If, as shown, you specify
470xx, that should stick.
{{{
Legacy GeForce 600/700
Supported on current stable Xorg server release.
/!\ This serie is the current default for fedora releases up to Fedora 34.
This driver is suitable for any NVIDIA Kepler GPU found between 2012 and
2014
dnf update -y
sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx akmod-nvidia-470xx
sudo dnf install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-470xx-cuda #optional for cuda up to
11.4 support
/!\ Please remember to wait after the RPM transaction ends, until the
kmod get built. This can take up to 5 minutes on some systems.
)))
and then 'sudo systemctl reboot'
HTH
John P
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Re: stream TO airplay/sonos
Unfortunately, I can't find any "raop" support in the Fedora repos. Thanks very much for getting me this far. On 11/22/21 11:46 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/22/21 21:32, Samuel Sieb wrote: Pulseaudio has support for sending to airplay(2). You need to load the raop(2) module and your airplay devices should show up as potential outputs. Pipewire just got preliminary support about a week ago, so it will probably be in the next release. Pulseaudio documentation for the raop modules is at: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules/#raopsinkmoduleswirelessnetworksoundakaappleairtunes I don't know where the actual module is though. I can't find which package it comes in. Maybe it's disabled in Fedora? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 11:10:43 -0400 George N. White III wrote: > You should compare the > font settings between the two systems. Or at least the list of installed fonts on the two systems rpm -q -a | fgrep font should get you a list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
On Tue, 23 Nov 2021 at 09:47, Dario Lesca wrote: > On my Notebook with Fedora 34 up to date (also on 35 new installation on > VM) some application show part of your text message with weird font like > this: > > Torbrowser: https://i.imgur.com/7FRv4Xu.png > Libreoffice: https://i.imgur.com/9tkRqwH.png > > On another PC with Fedora 34 up to date like my notebook this problem not > occurr and all work fine. > > If I login with a new user the problem still exist > > Seem a video driver or some package not installed o some other strange > think on my notebook > > Someone can help me to analyse and resolve this issue? > If you are referring to the little boxes with codes inside, this can happen when using a font that lacks the unicode symbols used in the text. Unicode fonts vary greatly in their coverage. You should compare the font settings between the two systems. There should be system-wide defaults and application settings that can override the system choices. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: NVIDIA Legacy drivers
On 11/22/21 19:32, Ed Greshko wrote: Actually, the exclude was needed when the akmod-nvidia-340xx package was in the rpmfusion-nonfree-updates-testing. Without the exclude the akmod-nvidia-340xx would get downgraded to the broken version. I just removed the exclude from my configuration which confirms the package was moved to stable. And a check on a system without nvidia hardware. [root@f35k ~]# dnf list available | grep akmod-nvidia-340xx akmod-nvidia-340xx.x86_64 1:340.108-15.fc35 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates Which is the "fixed" version for the newer kernels. Guess I am misunderstanding 'exclude.' Without it here, what's to prevent future updates from installing the >340xx versions that don't support my card, and that I just de-installed? Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Fedora 34: Some applications show weird font
On my Notebook with Fedora 34 up to date (also on 35 new installation on VM) some application show part of your text message with weird font like this: Torbrowser: https://i.imgur.com/7FRv4Xu.png Libreoffice: https://i.imgur.com/9tkRqwH.png On another PC with Fedora 34 up to date like my notebook this problem not occurr and all work fine. If I login with a new user the problem still exist Seem a video driver or some package not installed o some other strange think on my notebook Someone can help me to analyse and resolve this issue? Many thanks -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 34 Workstation) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
