Re: Access to Android

On 10/5/18 12:43 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/5/18 7:58 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I am not sure that I should post this message here. Is there an Android mailing list? I cannot access to my Android phone via the USB bus. Actually, I can see it: ls /var/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp

Re: Access to Android

On 10/5/18 7:58 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, I am not sure that I should post this message here. Is there an Android mailing list? I cannot access to my Android phone via the USB bus. Actually, I can see it: ls /var/run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp\:host\=%5Busb%3A001%2C007%5D but a touch provides

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

On 10/21/18 5:19 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/21/2018 05:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The forums only work if you only subscribe to ONE forum and make it your browser's home page. I'm subscribed to three support forums that I check pretty much daily and none of them are my browser's

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 stan wrote: I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing list feel about that. There is already a fedoraforum which I don't use at all because I despise forums because they are nothing like as

Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

On 10/20/18 3:57 PM, Fulko Hew wrote: On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 6:35 PM Mike Wright > wrote: On 10/20/18 3:17 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 14:42:20 -0700 > stan wrote: > >> I'm wondering how the people who regularly

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/18 3:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this list: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html poc Oh [expletive deleted] !!! IBM RUINED Lotus. Hopefully Fedora an spin

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 2:33 PM, Tom H wrote: As incompetent as IBM's management has been for the last 15 years or so (and we can safely add paying a 63% premium for RH as its latest epic fail; desperation...), I find it difficult to believe that IBM'll kill the successful RH business model. They sure

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 12:32 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: Fedora is the "bleeding edge" Not all that "Bleeding Edge" Fedora 28 does not even support the latest Libre Office in is repos. (LO's RPM do work though.) ___ users mailing list --

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/18 6:38 PM, Leander Hutton wrote: On 10/28/18 6:49 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know this is strictly OT, but I suggest it's of some interest to this list: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/28/ibm-to-acquire-red-hat-in-deal-valued-at-34-billion.html Red Hat owns and funds a lot of

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/28/18 10:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2018-10-28 at 22:01 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: The reality is, Red Hat is a publicly traded company and there was always a very good chance a big fish was going to come eat it, because it was doing well. Anyway, the ultimate decision now is up

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: The big question is how will IBM look at it. RHEL is pretty much unusable for newer software as RHEL is so bug riddled and out of date. Don't know why you think RHEL is bug

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 10:02:32 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 04:26:46PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 11:41 AM, Ranjan

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: Some of us (many businesses) don't want a new version of Linux every six months, they want systems that will be stable and will run for years with nothing more than the occasional yum update and more occasional reboot. People with many computers can't spend

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 10:30 PM, Tim via users wrote: We have a prime example in this country of Telstra (a phone company). They bugger everyone up, customers and systems, with the you'll have to put up with it, or go to one of the small number of highly similar competitors. So, no, market forces don't

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 12:53 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:19:44 -0700 Paul Allen Newell wrote: ToddAndMargo: Using/watching what Fedora is doing is a good way to prepare for what might be coming in RHEL/Centos Paul yes but not as good as a written roadmap d It is beyond me how

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 2:40 AM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: Hi ToddandMargo, I don't want to get into a political argument, just point out to a couple of things: First:  Venezuela is not socialist.  Their government claimed to be, but they weren't, they aren't and they won't be. They are trying to be

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 10:14 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: Guys, this is NOT a political forum. Please stop trying to compare capitalism and communism and socialism here. It's not appropriate subject matter for this list. Take it to a political forum somewhere else. Rick is correct. If anyone wishes to

Re: I need granny games!

On 10/30/18 10:55 AM, Beartooth wrote: On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 21:43:36 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I have a customer (actually she is a great grand mother) who wants me "specifically" to put her together a cheap machine to only play Freecell. No internet, no printing

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 10:10 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 10/29/18 11:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 10:19 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 10/29/2018 09:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/29/18 8:31 PM, Richard England wrote: On 10/29/18 6:30 PM, Fred Smith wrote: On Mon, Oct

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:34 AM, Fred Smith wrote: On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 09:57:19AM +, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: Hi Fred and all, Well, I understand although disagree. If one doesn't want upgrades, there are other systems like Debian stable. Besides upgrades aren't mandatory, as

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:15 PM, jdow wrote: Not superior in many cases in the most important criterion of all. Does it run the software you need to use? There are times the answer to that question is a simple "no and likely won't for quite some time to come." If you are a serious user then you pick the OS 

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 3:49 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 2:12 PM, bruce wrote: I am staying away from politics on the forum. Sufice it to say, dems do like their cheese. and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really??? guess it depends on what you consider "better"... I am IT support to small

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: but Apple hardware takes the cake. Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. I wasn't referring to the internals. I was referring to their weird mice and keyboards. I hate their keyboards. I am a buckling spring guy. (I have

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T Extra info. "dd" goes lik

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 3:47 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:37:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Windows 10 causes my customers all kinds of trouble. But they can do nothing about it. why not run linux as a subsystem where it fits? They'd have quite a lot of knowledge already

what is the name of the os installer?

Hi All, I keep forgetting the name of Fedora's OS installer (not the program installer). Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Is your USB3 slow?

Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T ___ users mailing list --

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx I am helping set up things and assisting with program usage. Tip on OSx, carry your own mouse and a Live Fedora Stick

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

On 10/30/18 6:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: anaconda Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

On 10/30/18 6:59 PM, Ken Smith wrote: Anaconda Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/30/18 1:36 AM, j.witvl...@mindef.nl wrote: Heartbroken? No improvement ever without change, (although not every change lead to improvement.) Sometimes purchases/buy-outs works out fine. Like the purchase of StarOffice by SUN-Microsystems. I admit, the world of Open Source does has

xfce 4.13 panels have weird colors

Hi All, I just upgraded from Fedora 28 to 29 and Xfce 4.12 to 4.13. The background colors of my panel one and panel two have some dark background color, making them hard to read, especial the date and time. Far right of panel 1 on the top Far left of panel 2 on the bottom

Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go. The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin. I just open up launcher panels no longer scale https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828 xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12

Re: just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

On 11/3/18 1:12 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: On 11/3/18 3:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. rday Second

Re: Will a T42 thinkpad run F29?

On 11/3/18 2:05 PM, Beartooth wrote: Background: F28 has been the first Fedora release that has given troubles on a couple of old PCs (built for me by friends who speak hardware; so I don't have specs) -- troubles which other friends attribute to those PCs lacking hardware that F28

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up launcher panels no longer scale https://bugzilla.xfce.org

Tip: flash player

Hi All, Had a customer with Fedora 28 that could not view videos on the web wit Firefox. Turned out Flash player was missing. So a quick rip to my notes and OUT OF DATE! So Google it is and OUT-OF Date too! Folks need to date their articles! Finally found a article that actually worked and

Re: shudown

On 10/26/18 8:49 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/25/2018 10:09 PM, Todd Chester via users wrote:     su root -c "/sbin/shutdown -h +70" Specifying root in that line is redundant. Indeed it is. I do it anyway so that it is clear what is happening.

I need granny games!

Hi All, I have a customer (actually she is a great grand mother) who wants me "specifically" to put her together a cheap machine to only play Freecell. No internet, no printing, no sound. So Xfce, Fedora, and K Patience to the rescue. Now I know that K Patience contains Freecell, but I was

Re: I need granny games!

On 10/27/18 10:10 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/27/2018 10:43 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Now I know that K Patience contains Freecell, but I was wondering if there are some other granny games I could put on it.  You know games like Solitaire that would make teenagers run screaming

Re: I need granny games!

On 10/27/18 10:42 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/27/18 10:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/27/18 10:10 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/27/2018 10:43 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Now I know that K Patience contains Freecell, but I was wondering if there are some other granny games I

Re: I need granny games!

On 10/27/18 10:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/27/18 9:43 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Now I know that K Patience contains Freecell, but I was wondering if there are some other granny games I could put on it.  You know games like Solitaire that would make teenagers run screaming

Re: I need granny games!

On 10/27/18 10:46 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/27/2018 11:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: One for two!  Thank you! $ dnf --enablerepo=* whatprovides hearts ... Error: No Matches found It probably won't make a difference, but try looking for gnome-hearts instead. That worked! Thank

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 8:12 AM, Eddie O'Connor wrote: I feel as though I've been kicked in the back of the neck.by Bruce Lee! I don't presume to know the first thing about corporations, mergers, and long term financials, And while Red Hat was a corporation per se.I've always loved Fedora for

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

On 10/29/18 4:17 AM, j.halif...@seznam.cz wrote: Capitalism is not a good system because of a sum of locally optimal behaviors doesn't need to result in an optimum. Behavior of companies oriented for their maximal profit causes negative devastating nature, social tensions, devastating

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sites I've visited and, indeed, the file that lists checksums for all the Spins omits mention of the Xfce-Live version. What I did was to run the ISO as a CDROM from one of my virtual

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote:     On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo

Re: Sticks with not lights

On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them

Re: Sticks with not lights

On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up launcher panels

Re: Sticks with not lights

On 11/7/18 4:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/7/18 4:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/7/18 4:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users

Re: Sticks with not lights

t someone on this user-list who is more knowledgeable will correct me with a better way. Best, Paul On 11/05/2018 09:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go. 

Re: Sticks with not lights

On 11/7/18 2:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? Bad habits die hard ___ users mailing

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/9/18 7:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 10:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 I'm having no problems with LibreOffice on a fully updated F29 system (in a VM). Just to verify, maybe

I need a data and time clock for my desktop

Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

On 11/9/18 9:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. What desktop do you use?  Gnome has that right at the top of the screen. I am using Xfce

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T tzclock is interesting, but I can't figure out how to turn it into a digital clock

Re: mate and Xfce

On 11/9/18 9:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 12:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? How and how do I switch back and ofrth.  Xfce is already installed Sure. Once you install MATE and restart there will be a place on the login screen

mate and Xfce

Hi All, Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? How and how do I switch back and ofrth. Xfce is already installed Many thanks, -T -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without the mustard

Re: mate and Xfce

On 11/9/18 9:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 9:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is there a group install for mate? "mate-desktop" Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email t

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock.  I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/10/18 12:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"? A very brief che

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

On 11/9/18 10:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school.  Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2? It is acting weird

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

On 11/10/18 12:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:02 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> systemctl start geoclue >> >> Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard >> users to start it? >> >>

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. But they should be able to be started under certain conditions by regular users  Saned for instance. I've not used

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/10/18 10:00 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 7:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? You don't. $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/10/18 10:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 10:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does this and bombs with a message that geoclue does not have permission. (geoclue:23024): Geoclue-CRITICAL **: 22:34:01.971: Failed to acquire name 'org.freedesktop.GeoClue2' on system bus

How do I start geoclue as a user?

Hi All, systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14 11:59 /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service Many thanks, -T --

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

On 11/10/18 3:19 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: xclock -d -update 1 & Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines. Also the -24 switch did not work ___ users mailing list --

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/10/18 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 1:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. But they should be able

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/11/18 11:48 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/11/18 3:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/12/18 4:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/11/18 3:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/12/18 5:51 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/12/18 4:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/11/18 3:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/11/18 3:44 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/11/2018 04:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2? Agent rejected

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/11/18 10:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/11/2018 10:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I just verified that that is not a problem since I created a user with UID=500 and redshift worked just fine. Use grep 500 /etc/passwd to see if there's more than one user with that UID.  If there is, it may not

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

On 11/11/18 3:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What

Sticks with not lights

Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to make sure it is done writing?

Re: Debian vs Fedora

On 11/5/18 10:59 AM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: Fedora ships "bleeding edge" versions Mostly, but not always. 28 did not support the latest Libre Office or Krusader. But they will almost always have the next version back. Xfce either, but that may have been a good thing. Fedora does use

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

On 11/9/18 6:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

On 10/31/18 12:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? My kernel

Tip: VLC and zero length files

Hi All, VLC 5.0.3 Fedora 29, x64 Xfce 4.13 Heads up: if you read a zero length *.mp4 file with VLC, the error windows will pop up, start to shimmer, eventually kill VLC, and you will get Logged out -- losing everything you had open. You can log back in, but nothing seems to work quite right

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Tip: VLC and zero length files

On 1/2/19 2:10 PM, Wells, Roger K. via users wrote: On 1/2/19 4:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 1/3/19 1:18 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: VLC 5.0.3 Fedora 29, x64 Xfce 4.13 Heads up: if you read a zero length *.mp4 file with VLC, the error windows will pop up, start to shimmer, eventually

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Tip: VLC and zero length files

You said "VLC 5.0.3". $ rpm -qa vlc vlc-3.0.5-4.fc29.x86_64 Dyslexia. Mumble, Mumble ... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

tablets?

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Re: tip: cd previous directory

On 1/23/19 2:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2019-01-22 at 22:55 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just discovered this. To cd back to the previous directory cd - What a time saver! This has been around since before Linux was even thought of. IIRC it goes

tip: cd previous directory

Hi All, I just discovered this. To cd back to the previous directory cd - What a time saver! -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of

Re: tip: cd previous directory

On 1/22/19 11:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/22/2019 11:55 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just discovered this.  To cd back to the previous directory   cd  - What a time saver! Yes.  It saves one keystroke from cd .. You don't understand what I said. I meant "pre

Re: tip: cd previous directory

On 1/22/19 11:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 1/23/19 3:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: You don't understand what I said.  I meant "previous" directory, not directory before the current direcorty.  Here is an example: And here is the man page snippet... -   is  converted  t

Re: tip: cd previous directory

On 1/23/19 3:25 AM, John Harris wrote: On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:36:06 AM EST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/22/19 11:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 1/23/19 3:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: You don't understand what I said. I meant "previous" directory, not direct

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