Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 2:12 PM, bruce wrote: I am staying away from politics on the forum. Sufice it to say, dems do like their cheese. and if you think "fedora" is better than the os that msoft creates.. really??? guess it depends on what you consider "better"... I am IT support to small businesse

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 3:15 PM, jdow wrote: Not superior in many cases in the most important criterion of all. Does it run the software you need to use? There are times the answer to that question is a simple "no and likely won't for quite some time to come." If you are a serious user then you pick the OS t

Is your USB3 slow?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick. It is taking FOREVER. And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.or

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? -T Extra info. "dd" goes lik

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 3:47 PM, Dave Stevens wrote: On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:37:39 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Windows 10 causes my customers all kinds of trouble. But they can do nothing about it. why not run linux as a subsystem where it fits? They'd have quite a lot of knowledge al

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 4:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: What I find different supporting Linux and OSx (weird for the sake of weirdness) over Windows is that with Linux and OSx I am helping set up things and assisting with program usage. Tip on OSx, carry your own mouse and a Live Fedora Stick

Re: OT: IBM to buy RedHat

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 4:45 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: but Apple hardware takes the cake. Huh? They're just configuration-restricted PC-style laptops. I wasn't referring to the internals. I was referring to their weird mice and keyboards. I hate their keyboards. I am a buckling spring guy. (I have kno

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 3:49 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any

what is the name of the os installer?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I keep forgetting the name of Fedora's OS installer (not the program installer). Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 6:20 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: anaconda Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.ht

Re: what is the name of the os installer?

2018-10-30 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 6:59 PM, Ken Smith wrote: Anaconda Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html Li

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

2018-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/30/18 6:18 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 10/31/18 6:45 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? Nope

Re: Is your USB3 slow?

2018-11-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/18 12:35 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 10/30/18 3:45 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: FC28, x86 Xfce 4.12 I am trying to copy he new Xfce Live ISO (1.4 GB) over to a Samsung usb 3.1 stick.  It is taking FOREVER.  And this is typical. Is your usb also slow by any chance? My kernel is

Tip: flash player

2018-11-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Had a customer with Fedora 28 that could not view videos on the web wit Firefox. Turned out Flash player was missing. So a quick rip to my notes and OUT OF DATE! So Google it is and OUT-OF Date too! Folks need to date their articles! Finally found a article that actually worked and

Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go. The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin. I just open up launcher panels no longer scale https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14828 xfce4-about 4.13 thinks it is 4.12 https

xfce 4.13 panels have weird colors

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I just upgraded from Fedora 28 to 29 and Xfce 4.12 to 4.13. The background colors of my panel one and panel two have some dark background color, making them hard to read, especial the date and time. Far right of panel 1 on the top Far left of panel 2 on the bottom https://ibb.co/g

Re: just saying thanks for the reliability of fedora system upgrades

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/3/18 1:12 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: On 11/3/18 3:57 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote: other than the aforementioned VPN issue, i have to say, i've become used to casually saying, "sure, system upgrade my laptop to the next official release of fedora." man, that's convenient. rday Second th

Re: Will a T42 thinkpad run F29?

2018-11-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/3/18 2:05 PM, Beartooth wrote: Background: F28 has been the first Fedora release that has given troubles on a couple of old PCs (built for me by friends who speak hardware; so I don't have specs) -- troubles which other friends attribute to those PCs lacking hardware that F28 requi

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-04 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up launcher panels no longer scale https://bugzilla.xfce.org

Sticks with not lights

2018-11-05 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to make sure it is done writing?

Re: Debian vs Fedora

2018-11-05 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/5/18 10:59 AM, a...@clueserver.org wrote: Fedora ships "bleeding edge" versions Mostly, but not always. 28 did not support the latest Libre Office or Krusader. But they will almost always have the next version back. Xfce either, but that may have been a good thing. Fedora does use tes

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sites I've visited and, indeed, the file that lists checksums for all the Spins omits mention of the Xfce-Live version. What I did was to run the ISO as a CDROM from one of my virtual m

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
d hope that someone on this user-list who is more knowledgeable will correct me with a better way. Best, Paul On 11/05/2018 09:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Hi All, > > Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go. 

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took it on the chin.  I just open up launcher panels

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 2:52 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 11/07/2018 01:52 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This is the dismount part of my script: sync; sync umount $StickTarget Calling sync twice? Bad habits die hard ___ users mailing

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users <mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote:     On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:30 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 4:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 4:21 PM, Richard England wrote: On 11/7/18 12:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/6/18 11:54 PM, Marco Guazzone wrote: On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 8:13 AM ToddAndMargo via users

Re: Sticks with not lights

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:33 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/7/18 4:24 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 3:58 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/5/18 9:03 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took

I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 7:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 10:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 I'm having no problems with LibreOffice on a fully updated F29 system (in a VM). Just to verify,

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T tzclock is interesting, but I can't figure out how to turn it into a digital

mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? How and how do I switch back and ofrth. Xfce is already installed Many thanks, -T -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without the mustard _

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 12:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? How and how do I switch back and ofrth.  Xfce is already installed Sure. Once you install MATE and restart there will be a place on the login screen to

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock.  I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I coul

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. What desktop do you use?  Gnome has that right at the top of the screen. I am using Xfce and the

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 9:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is there a group install for mate? "mate-desktop" Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email t

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 12:18 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 What exactly do you mean by "pulsing"? A very brief che

How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 Oct 14 11:59 /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service Many thanks, -T --

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 12:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 10:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school.  Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option.) Tried

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 3:19 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: xclock -d -update 1 & Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines. Also the -24 switch did not work ___ users mailing list -- users@

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ > On Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:02 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> systemctl start geoclue >> >> Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard >> users to start it? >> >>

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. But they should be able to be started under certain conditions by regular users  Saned for instance. I've not used

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 9:52 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 1:08 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 9:00 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/11/18 12:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: That is a good workaround.  Or just wait for the Xfce Policy Kit to prompt. But they should be able to be

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 10:00 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 7:32 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: systemctl start geoclue Anything special I have to do to it to allow standard users to start it? You don't. $ ls -al /usr/lib/systemd/system/geoclue.service -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 468 O

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 10:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/10/18 10:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does this and bombs with a message that geoclue does not have permission. (geoclue:23024): Geoclue-CRITICAL **: 22:34:01.971: Failed to acquire name 'org.freedesktop.GeoClue2' on

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2? It is acting weird

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-11 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What is the exact error message and what are the permissions for geoclue2? Agent rejected

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/11/18 3:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2 What

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/11/18 10:05 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/11/2018 10:49 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: I just verified that that is not a problem since I created a user with UID=500 and redshift worked just fine. Use grep 500 /etc/passwd to see if there's more than one user with that UID.  If there is, it may not

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 6:25 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/11/18 3:44 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/11/2018 04:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/12/18 4:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/11/18 3:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/12/18 5:51 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/12/18 4:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/11/18 3:36 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/12/18 7:07 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM

Re: How do I start geoclue as a user?

2018-11-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/11/18 11:48 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/11/18 3:07 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/10/18 11:04 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 11:30 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Redshift does give me that prompt, them I get a message that there was a permission issue with geoclue2

Re: SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe

2018-11-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/22/18 7:31 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: I just picked up one of these (still waiting on delivery!) and just wanted an ack/nak on anyone else having any issues... https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147690 I was originally looking at the WD Black, for which there were som

Re: SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe

2018-11-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/23/18 5:55 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2018 at 10:10 PM ToddAndMargo via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On 11/22/18 7:31 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > I just picked up one of these (still waiting on delivery!) and just > wanted a

Re: SAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 500GB PCIe Gen3. X4, NVMe

2018-11-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/23/18 5:54 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 22 Nov 2018 21:31:48 -0600 Richard Shaw wrote: I just picked up one of these Last time I looked, samsung only had a Windows tool for updating firmware, so if some desperately important firmware update needs to be applied, you'll have to find a

Re: where is nmap-frontend in F29?

2018-11-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/25/18 1:16 PM, andrea via users wrote: On 25/11/2018 17:59, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2018-11-25 at 17:11 +, andrea via users wrote: Aka zenmap, nmapfe? Exists for F28 but not for F29. 'dnf search' is generally useful: $ dnf search nmap ===

ifup/ifdown

2018-12-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, What is this all about? $ ifdown eno2 WARN : [ifdown] You are using 'ifdown' script provided by 'network-scripts', which are now deprecated. WARN : [ifdown] 'network-scripts' will be removed from distribution in near future. WARN : [ifdown] It is advised to switch to 'Ne

file server question: cifs vs nfs?

2018-12-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, A customer is thinking of having me build him a file server. He has 3 windows 10 workstation that all need to see that same YUGE drawing files. Plus backup would be nice. So since I am allergic to Windows servers (the make me say "bad" words), I thought of a FC29 Samba server. Then it

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/8/18 10:46 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 01:31:34PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I'm trying to understand what prevents having a shell script, or two, that takes a single parameter, and turns on or off the specified network inte

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 2:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/18 2:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: The NetworkManager package contains ifup and ifdown scripts.  I don't see how there's any maintenance involved, since they just call nmcli. The warning me

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 6:06 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/9/18 2:36 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/18 2:28 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/8/18 11:24 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote: The NetworkManager package contains ifup and ifdown scripts.  I don't see how there's any maintenanc

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 6:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 12/10/18 10:37 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Uh Oh!  If I remove network-scripts, will I still have /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts.ifcfg-  ?? [egreshko@acer ~]$ rpm -q network-scripts package network-scripts is not installed [egreshko@acer

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 7:03 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: dnf info I keep forgetting about that command. Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https

Re: ifup/ifdown

2018-12-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/9/18 10:59 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/9/18 6:37 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 12/9/18 6:06 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I decided to see what I would lose by removing network-scripts. Nothing I can't live without now that I have nm-ifup/down. You still have ifu

Re: file server question: cifs vs nfs?

2018-12-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/7/18 6:37 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, A customer is thinking of having me build him a file server.  He has 3 windows 10 workstation that all need to see that same YUGE drawing files. Plus backup would be nice. So since I am allergic to Windows servers (the make me say &quo

Re: file server question: cifs vs nfs?

2018-12-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/8/18 6:34 AM, Doug H. wrote: On Fri, 2018-12-07 at 18:37 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, A customer is thinking of having me build him a file server. He has 3 windows 10 workstation that all need to see that same YUGE drawing files. Plus backup would be nice. So since I am

Re: USB Port stopped working

2018-12-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 12/10/18 9:49 AM, PropAAS DBA wrote: All; One of my USB Ports has stopped working, trying to determine if it's a hardware failure or a Linux issue. I'm running Fedora 29 - KDE spin on a Lenovo P52S If I grep for USB from /var/log/messages the results include this: Dec 10 10:16:32 P52S p

Tip: VLC and zero length files

2019-01-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, VLC 5.0.3 Fedora 29, x64 Xfce 4.13 Heads up: if you read a zero length *.mp4 file with VLC, the error windows will pop up, start to shimmer, eventually kill VLC, and you will get Logged out -- losing everything you had open. You can log back in, but nothing seems to work quite right unti

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Tip: VLC and zero length files

2019-01-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/2/19 2:10 PM, Wells, Roger K. via users wrote: On 1/2/19 4:57 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 1/3/19 1:18 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: VLC 5.0.3 Fedora 29, x64 Xfce 4.13 Heads up: if you read a zero length *.mp4 file with VLC, the error windows will pop up, start to shimmer, eventually

Re: EXTERNAL: Re: Tip: VLC and zero length files

2019-01-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
You said "VLC 5.0.3". $ rpm -qa vlc vlc-3.0.5-4.fc29.x86_64 Dyslexia. Mumble, Mumble ... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://get

Re: Tip: VLC and zero length files

2019-01-10 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/2/19 9:18 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, VLC 5.0.3 Fedora 29, x64 Xfce 4.13 Heads up: if you read a zero length *.mp4 file with VLC, the error windows will pop up, start to shimmer, eventually kill VLC, and you will get Logged out -- losing everything you had open. You can log

Armitage

2019-01-11 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Any substitute for the defunct Armitage, which has not been updates since 2015 http://www.fastandeasyhacking.com/changelog And ran on Fedora 28 but not 29 Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: Armitage

2019-01-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/11/19 7:15 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Any substitute for the defunct Armitage, which has not been updates since 2015 http://www.fastandeasyhacking.com/changelog And ran on Fedora 28 but not 29 Many thanks, -T I finally got Armitage running, although I don't know

heic

2019-01-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, How do I display an Apple proprietary HEIC image? Eye of Gnome (eof) and GIMP will have nothing to do with it. Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproje

tablets?

2019-01-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Any sign of Fedora on a tablet? -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: h

tip: cd previous directory

2019-01-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I just discovered this. To cd back to the previous directory cd - What a time saver! -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: tip: cd previous directory

2019-01-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/22/19 11:06 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 01/22/2019 11:55 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just discovered this.  To cd back to the previous directory   cd  - What a time saver! Yes.  It saves one keystroke from cd .. You don't understand what I said. I meant &quo

Re: tip: cd previous directory

2019-01-22 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/22/19 11:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 1/23/19 3:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: You don't understand what I said.  I meant "previous" directory, not directory before the current direcorty.  Here is an example: And here is the man page snippet... -   is  convert

Re: tip: cd previous directory

2019-01-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/23/19 2:36 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2019-01-22 at 22:55 -0800, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I just discovered this. To cd back to the previous directory cd - What a time saver! This has been around since before Linux was even thought of. IIRC it

Re: tip: cd previous directory

2019-01-23 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/23/19 3:25 AM, John Harris wrote: On Wednesday, January 23, 2019 2:36:06 AM EST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 1/22/19 11:15 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 1/23/19 3:12 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: You don't understand what I said. I meant "previous" directory, not d

Re: Shredding a removable drive (OT)

2019-01-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/25/19 6:45 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I'm using shred on some 2Tb USB disk drive that I plan to give away. So far it has taken 8 hours to shred 50% of the drive, which implies that it will take about 16 hours to shred the whole drive. I have another 2 drives to go. Is there a quicker wa

Re: Shredding a removable drive (OT)

2019-01-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/25/19 7:09 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: This will also discharge all your cells too. Sorry, I though it was an SSD. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Shredding a removable drive (OT)

2019-01-25 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 1/25/19 9:38 PM, fred roller wrote: You can wipe your drive with: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/[device to be wiped] /dev/zero is the fastest I have found. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-l

on screen keyboard?

2019-02-04 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Anyone have a favorite on screen keyboard that will operate under Xfce? I have been using Florence, but it seems to not be supported anymore and crashes a lot. Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscr

JS script from the command line?

2019-02-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Any of you guys know how to read a JS Script from a web site from the command line? Many thanks, -T ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Condu

Re: JS script from the command line?

2019-02-12 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2/12/19 8:00 PM, John Harris wrote: On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:13:55 PM EST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Any of you guys know how to read a JS Script from a web site from the command line? Many thanks, -T Well, what do you mean by `read`? Viewing the source in an editor

Re: JS script from the command line?

2019-02-13 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2/12/19 8:08 PM, John Harris wrote: On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 11:04:13 PM EST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 2/12/19 8:00 PM, John Harris wrote: On Tuesday, February 12, 2019 10:13:55 PM EST ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Any of you guys know how to read a JS Script from

Tip: dual boot off of gpt , and legacy and UEFI

2019-02-15 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
OH HOLY [expletive deleted]!!! I can't believe figured this out UEFI.BIOS.Dual.Boot.txt: References that stink: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=223015 https://bl.ocks.org/gdamjan/05b799162e4b3e97a30d37a89fed0fa8 https://forum.level1techs.com/t/configure-grub-to-boot-l

Re: LIghtweight editor to replace gedit?

2019-02-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 2/25/19 6:02 AM, Alex wrote: Hi, I have a fedora29 workstation and frequently need a lightweight editor to make notes, act as an interim cut buffer, and just briefly edit documents before posting them somewhere else. The problem is that gedit crashes, or my desktop crashes, losing all the no

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-01 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/1/19 6:07 AM, Dave Ihnat wrote: I've noticed three consistent theme over the years: o Tape is still*expensive* to set up and maintain. o Clients hate tape. o Clients won't change tapes or disks. AMEN! Consultants hate tapes too. And they are slower than the dickens trying to r

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/1/19 5:03 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 05:06 -0800, Todd Chester via users wrote: On 2/28/19 4:41 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: I have persistent problems with small USB hard drives that I use for backup. What I have been lately, is building my own with drives with Ro

Re: (OT) Beeping drives used for backup

2019-03-03 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 3/2/19 8:24 AM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Fri, 2019-03-01 at 05:06 -0800, Todd Chester via users wrote: What I have been lately, is building my own with drives with Rosewill backup cases (RX304-APU3-35B). I populate them with Western Digital drives What are the advantages/disadvantages of

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