Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Tue, 31 May 2016 00:50:48 +0200
gil  wrote:

> Il 30/05/2016 16:30, stan ha scritto:
> > At least, you now know what the issue is.  If you need an older
> > kernel, and don't have one installed, you can go here,
> > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
> > and pick up older kernel packages for your OS version, and install
> > them using
> > dnf -C install [kernel rpm package names here]
> >
> > You could edit /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to up the number of kernels you
> > keep by 1 to provide space without removing an existing kernel
> > install.  
> also alsa-lib (1.1.1) "seem" affected (?)
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1115762
> https://gil.fedorapeople.org/pulseverbose.log
> regards
> .g

I think I cannot help you further with this.  It's into serious
coding territory, rather than configuration help.  But, I recommend that
you go here
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug
and download the alsa-info.sh script, and run it.
Then post to the user or developer mailing list for alsa, attaching
or with a link to the output of that script, describing your problem.
They are experts in alsa, and will be more familiar with any issues.
The links to those mailing lists are on the same page as the script
link.
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 30/05/2016 16:30, stan ha scritto:

At least, you now know what the issue is.  If you need an older kernel,
and don't have one installed, you can go here,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
and pick up older kernel packages for your OS version, and install them
using
dnf -C install [kernel rpm package names here]

You could edit /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to up the number of kernels you keep
by 1 to provide space without removing an existing kernel install.

also alsa-lib (1.1.1) "seem" affected (?)
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1115762
https://gil.fedorapeople.org/pulseverbose.log
regards
.g
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 30/05/2016 17:31, stan ha scritto:

The vicissitudes of life.:-)

it seems that  alsa-lib 1.1.1 is the cause of this problem/s
other suggestions?
regards
.g
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Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Mon, 30 May 2016 17:01:09 +0200
gil  wrote:


> > for me the really strange thing is that even with the 4.4 kernel 
> > before changing tab everything worked ...
> > regards
> > .g
> >  
> sorry ... for the noise ... i mean "video card"
> >
> >

It is likely that your old video card had a chip that wasn't affected
by the problem, but your new one does have such a chip.  So, if you had
purchased a different video card, you might never have encountered
this.  The vicissitudes of life.  :-)
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 30/05/2016 16:50, gil ha scritto:




Il 30/05/2016 16:30, stan ha scritto:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313434

Ha!  I thought sound was an issue settled years ago, didn't even think
of the kernel.  I haven't had any issues with sound because of the
kernels, probably because I custom compile, and use mostly sound
devices that aren't at issue.

At least, you now know what the issue is.  If you need an older kernel,
and don't have one installed, you can go here,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
and pick up older kernel packages for your OS version, and install them
using
dnf -C install [kernel rpm package names here]

You could edit /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to up the number of kernels you keep
by 1 to provide space without removing an existing kernel install.

Thanks!
for me the really strange thing is that even with the 4.4 kernel 
before changing tab everything worked ...

regards
.g


sorry ... for the noise ... i mean "video card"



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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 30/05/2016 16:30, stan ha scritto:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313434

Ha!  I thought sound was an issue settled years ago, didn't even think
of the kernel.  I haven't had any issues with sound because of the
kernels, probably because I custom compile, and use mostly sound
devices that aren't at issue.

At least, you now know what the issue is.  If you need an older kernel,
and don't have one installed, you can go here,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
and pick up older kernel packages for your OS version, and install them
using
dnf -C install [kernel rpm package names here]

You could edit /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to up the number of kernels you keep
by 1 to provide space without removing an existing kernel install.

Thanks!
for me the really strange thing is that even with the 4.4 kernel before 
changing tab everything worked ...

regards
.g
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Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Mon, 30 May 2016 14:39:52 +0200
gil  wrote:

> Il 26/05/2016 18:51, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
> >> open a bug? but for which component? kernel, pulseaudio,
> >> xorg-n-d ... ?  
> >
> > It's not pulseaudio because a direct aplay to the device doesn't 
> > generate sound.  That leaves it as a alsa/kernel module issue, so
> > file it on the kernel for now.  The really strange part is that
> > aplay works, but there is no sound.   
> hi
> seem a problem with newer kernel
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313434

Ha!  I thought sound was an issue settled years ago, didn't even think
of the kernel.  I haven't had any issues with sound because of the
kernels, probably because I custom compile, and use mostly sound
devices that aren't at issue.

At least, you now know what the issue is.  If you need an older kernel,
and don't have one installed, you can go here,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8
and pick up older kernel packages for your OS version, and install them
using
dnf -C install [kernel rpm package names here]

You could edit /etc/dnf/dnf.conf to up the number of kernels you keep
by 1 to provide space without removing an existing kernel install.
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 18:51, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

open a bug? but for which component? kernel, pulseaudio, xorg-n-d ... ?


It's not pulseaudio because a direct aplay to the device doesn't 
generate sound.  That leaves it as a alsa/kernel module issue, so file 
it on the kernel for now.  The really strange part is that aplay 
works, but there is no sound. 

hi
seem a problem with newer kernel
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1313434
regards
.g
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 27/05/2016 15:39, gil ha scritto:




Il 26/05/2016 21:35, stan ha scritto:

On Thu, 26 May 2016 19:50:10 +0200
gil  wrote:
  

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

nothing


This is crazy.  By everything you've shown you should have sound.

Do you have a set of headphones?  Unplug your speakers from the AMD
card and plug in the headphones, the green mini plug.

Then fire up pavucontrol and turn off pulseaudio for the AMD card.  It
is the last tab, configuration; probably set to analog duplex now, but
if you open the dropdown, there is an entry for off.  Once that is
selected, pulse doesn't do anything with the card; it is pure alsa.

Then run the above command again, listening through headphones.  Be
careful, if you have everything set to high levels, you could blow your
ears out.

hi
found with
$ dmesg -wH
*[  +0,104707] snd_hda_intel: probe of :04:00.1 failed with error -2*

the rest of the above cmd is @ https://gil.fedorapeople.org/dmesg-log.txt
regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 21:35, stan ha scritto:

On Thu, 26 May 2016 19:50:10 +0200
gil  wrote:
  

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

nothing


This is crazy.  By everything you've shown you should have sound.

Do you have a set of headphones?  Unplug your speakers from the AMD
card and plug in the headphones, the green mini plug.

Then fire up pavucontrol and turn off pulseaudio for the AMD card.  It
is the last tab, configuration; probably set to analog duplex now, but
if you open the dropdown, there is an entry for off.  Once that is
selected, pulse doesn't do anything with the card; it is pure alsa.

Then run the above command again, listening through headphones.  Be
careful, if you have everything set to high levels, you could blow your
ears out.

hi
found with
$ dmesg -wH
*[  +0,104707] snd_hda_intel: probe of :04:00.1 failed with error -2*

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 21:35, stan ha scritto:

On Thu, 26 May 2016 19:50:10 +0200
gil  wrote:
  

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16
bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

nothing


Hi

This is crazy.  By everything you've shown you should have sound.

Do you have a set of headphones?  Unplug your speakers from the AMD

No, i havent, i dont need

card and plug in the headphones, the green mini plug.

Then fire up pavucontrol and turn off pulseaudio for the AMD card.  It
is the last tab, configuration; probably set to analog duplex now, but
if you open the dropdown, there is an entry for off.  Once that is
selected, pulse doesn't do anything with the card; it is pure alsa.

Then run the above command again, listening through headphones.  Be
careful, if you have everything set to high levels, you could blow your
ears out.

$ killall pulseaudio
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit 
Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

$ pulseaudio -k
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit 
Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

NO sound
thanks
.g

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Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Thu, 26 May 2016 19:50:10 +0200
gil  wrote:
 
> $ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
> aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
> $ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16
> bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono
> 
> nothing
> 

This is crazy.  By everything you've shown you should have sound.

Do you have a set of headphones?  Unplug your speakers from the AMD
card and plug in the headphones, the green mini plug.

Then fire up pavucontrol and turn off pulseaudio for the AMD card.  It
is the last tab, configuration; probably set to analog duplex now, but
if you open the dropdown, there is an entry for off.  Once that is
selected, pulse doesn't do anything with the card; it is pure alsa.

Then run the above command again, listening through headphones.  Be
careful, if you have everything set to high levels, you could blow your
ears out.
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 19:32, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/26/2016 10:27 AM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 18:51, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

"aplay -D plughw:0,0 " still works, but you don't hear
anything?

nothing ...

(You might have to kill pulseaudio first.)  I'm still wondering if you
accidentally changed something else when you took your computer apart.

This is another problem when try to kill pulseaudio
return this (i dont know the cause)
$ pulseaudio -k
(also with $ killall pulseaudio)
$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

You didn't include the parameters (-D plughw:0,0), so it used the 
default output which is pulseaudio, so the pulseaudio server was 
automatically restarted when you did that.  Kill pulseaudio again and 
try it with the parameters.


It might be useful to also see what pulseaudio has to say.  So, kill 
it, then run it verbose like you did and see what the output is when 
you do that aplay without parameters like you did.


pulseaudio in my system restart after i enter "pulseaudio -k" or 
"killall pulseaudio"

thus it remains running ...

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit 
Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono


nothing

when I rebooted the computer, I had to change the grub line, but I can 
not remember what I entered, to avoid a problem with the new graphics 
card, my apologize

.g


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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/26/2016 10:27 AM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 18:51, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

"aplay -D plughw:0,0 " still works, but you don't hear
anything?

nothing ...

(You might have to kill pulseaudio first.)  I'm still wondering if you
accidentally changed something else when you took your computer apart.

This is another problem when try to kill pulseaudio
return this (i dont know the cause)
$ pulseaudio -k
(also with $ killall pulseaudio)
$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono

You didn't include the parameters (-D plughw:0,0), so it used the 
default output which is pulseaudio, so the pulseaudio server was 
automatically restarted when you did that.  Kill pulseaudio again and 
try it with the parameters.


It might be useful to also see what pulseaudio has to say.  So, kill it, 
then run it verbose like you did and see what the output is when you do 
that aplay without parameters like you did.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 18:51, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/26/2016 08:16 AM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 07:17, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 10:10 PM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 00:11, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What does "aplay -l" show now?

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


Ok, so it did work.  You now only have one device.  If it's still not
working, I really have no more suggestions...

open a bug? but for which component? kernel, pulseaudio, xorg-n-d ... ?



hi
It's not pulseaudio because a direct aplay to the device doesn't 
generate sound.  That leaves it as a alsa/kernel module issue, so file 
it on the kernel for now.  The really strange part is that aplay 
works, but there is no sound.


"aplay -D plughw:0,0 " still works, but you don't hear 
anything? 

nothing ...
(You might have to kill pulseaudio first.)  I'm still wondering if you 
accidentally changed something else when you took your computer apart.

This is another problem when try to kill pulseaudio
return this (i dont know the cause)
$ pulseaudio -k
(also with $ killall pulseaudio)
$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav' : Signed 16 bit 
Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono



NO sound in my speakers
$ pulseaudio -vvv
*
E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
was not killed?

tried also with

$ pacmd list-cards
1 card(s) available.
index: 0
name: 
driver: 
owner module: 6
properties:
alsa.card = "0"
alsa.card_name = "HDA ATI SB"
alsa.long_card_name = "HDA ATI SB at 0xfcdf8000 irq 16"
alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
device.bus_path = "pci-:00:14.2"
sysfs.path = "/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card0"
device.bus = "pci"
device.vendor.id = "1002"
device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 
[AMD/ATI]"

device.product.id = "4383"
device.product.name = "SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"
device.form_factor = "internal"
device.string = "0"
device.description = "Audio interno"
module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
profiles:
input:analog-stereo: Stereo analogico input (priority 
60, available: unknown)
output:analog-stereo: Stereo analogico output (priority 
6000, available: unknown)
output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Duplex stereo 
analogico (priority 6060, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-21: Surround analogico 2.1 
output (priority 800, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-21+input:analog-stereo: Surround 
analogico 2.1 output + Stereo analogico input (priority 860, available: 
unknown)
output:analog-surround-40: Surround analogico 4.0 
output (priority 700, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-40+input:analog-stereo: Surround 
analogico 4.0 output + Stereo analogico input (priority 760, available: 
unknown)
output:analog-surround-41: Surround analogico 4.1 
output (priority 800, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-41+input:analog-stereo: Surround 
analogico 4.1 output + Stereo analogico input (priority 860, available: 
unknown)
output:analog-surround-50: Surround analogico 5.0 
output (priority 700, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-50+input:analog-stereo: Surround 
analogico 5.0 output + Stereo analogico input (priority 760, available: 
unknown)
output:analog-surround-51: Surround analogico 5.1 
output (priority 800, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-51+input:analog-stereo: Surround 
analogico 5.1 output + Stereo analogico input (priority 860, available: 
unknown)
output:analog-surround-71: Analog Surround 7.1 output 
(priority 700, available: unknown)
output:analog-surround-71+input:analog-stereo: Analog 
Surround 7.1 output + Stereo analogico input (priority 760, available: 
unknown)
output:iec958-stereo: Stereo digitale (IEC958) output 
(priority 5500, available: unknown)
output:iec958-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Stereo 
digitale (IEC958) output + Stereo analogico input (priority 5560, 
available: unknown)

off: Spento (priority 0, available: unknown)
active profile: 
sinks:
alsa_output.pci-_00_14.2.analog-stereo/#0: Audio 
interno Stereo analogico

sources:

Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/26/2016 08:16 AM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 07:17, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 10:10 PM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 00:11, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What does "aplay -l" show now?

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


Ok, so it did work.  You now only have one device.  If it's still not
working, I really have no more suggestions...

open a bug? but for which component? kernel, pulseaudio, xorg-n-d ... ?


It's not pulseaudio because a direct aplay to the device doesn't 
generate sound.  That leaves it as a alsa/kernel module issue, so file 
it on the kernel for now.  The really strange part is that aplay works, 
but there is no sound.


"aplay -D plughw:0,0 " still works, but you don't hear 
anything?  (You might have to kill pulseaudio first.)  I'm still 
wondering if you accidentally changed something else when you took your 
computer apart.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 07:17, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 10:10 PM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 00:11, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What does "aplay -l" show now?

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


Ok, so it did work.  You now only have one device.  If it's still not 
working, I really have no more suggestions...

open a bug? but for which component? kernel, pulseaudio, xorg-n-d ... ?
regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 07:17, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 10:10 PM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 00:11, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What does "aplay -l" show now?

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


Ok, so it did work.  You now only have one device.  If it's still not 
working, I really have no more suggestions...

hi

$  pactl list sinks
Sink #0
Stato: SUSPENDED
Nome: alsa_output.pci-_00_14.2.analog-stereo
Descrizione: Audio interno Stereo analogico
Driver: module-alsa-card.c
Specifica di campionamento: s16le ch 2 48000 Hz
Mappa dei canali: front-left,front-right
Modulo di appartenenza: 6
Muto: no
Volume: front-left: 99957 / 153% / 11,00 dB,   front-right: 
82746 / 126% / 6,08 dB

bilanciamento -0,17
Volume base: 65536 / 100% / 0,00 dB
Monitor della sorgente: 
alsa_output.pci-_00_14.2.analog-stereo.monitor

Latenza: 0 usec, configurata 0 usec
Flag: HARDWARE HW_MUTE_CTRL HW_VOLUME_CTRL DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY
Proprietà:
alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
device.api = "alsa"
device.class = "sound"
alsa.class = "generic"
alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
alsa.name = "ALC892 Analog"
alsa.id = "ALC892 Analog"
alsa.subdevice = "0"
alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
alsa.device = "0"
alsa.card = "0"
alsa.card_name = "HDA ATI SB"
alsa.long_card_name = "HDA ATI SB at 0xfcdf8000 irq 16"
alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
device.bus_path = "pci-:00:14.2"
sysfs.path = "/devices/pci:00/:00:14.2/sound/card0"
device.bus = "pci"
device.vendor.id = "1002"
device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. 
[AMD/ATI]"

device.product.id = "4383"
device.product.name = "SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)"
device.form_factor = "internal"
device.string = "front:0"
device.buffering.buffer_size = "352768"
device.buffering.fragment_size = "176384"
device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
device.profile.name = "analog-stereo"
device.profile.description = "Stereo analogico"
device.description = "Audio interno Stereo analogico"
alsa.mixer_name = "Realtek ALC892"
alsa.components = "HDA:10ec0892,18490892,00100302"
module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
Porte:
analog-output-lineout: Linea out (priority: 9900, not 
available)
analog-output-headphones: Cuffie analogiche (priority: 
9000, not available)

Porta attiva: analog-output-lineout
Formati:
pcm


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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/25/2016 10:10 PM, gil wrote:

Il 26/05/2016 00:11, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What does "aplay -l" show now?

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


Ok, so it did work.  You now only have one device.  If it's still not 
working, I really have no more suggestions...

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 26/05/2016 00:11, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 02:15 PM, gil wrote:

Il 25/05/2016 22:33, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What I gave you should be correct.

yes, correct ... my bad ...
but no sound ... (checked level in alsamixer are all to the max)
again thanks


You rebooted after creating that file? 

yes, each time i change sound setting/s

What does "aplay -l" show now?

 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
thanks
regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/25/2016 02:15 PM, gil wrote:

Il 25/05/2016 22:33, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

What I gave you should be correct.

yes, correct ... my bad ...
but no sound ... (checked level in alsamixer are all to the max)
again thanks


You rebooted after creating that file?  What does "aplay -l" show now?
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 25/05/2016 22:33, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
What I gave you should be correct. 

yes, correct ... my bad ...
but no sound ... (checked level in alsamixer are all to the max)
again thanks
.g

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/25/2016 01:18 PM, gil wrote:

Il 25/05/2016 22:05, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 01:03 PM, gil wrote:

Il 25/05/2016 21:50, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

sorry ... why? i dont want use HDMI ... i think was clear and the above
line for me is unclear ...


Unclear in what way?  I think that should disable the HDMI audio, try
it.  If only the HDMI output shows up, then switch the order of the 1
and 0.

maybe i write something of wrong,
but
$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

this mean options snd-hda-intel enable=card,device
and 1,0 do not exist

Where did you find that info?  It is actually a list of booleans.  The 
first number for card 0, second one is card 1, etc.  What I gave you 
should be correct.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 25/05/2016 22:05, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/25/2016 01:03 PM, gil wrote:

Il 25/05/2016 21:50, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

sorry ... why? i dont want use HDMI ... i think was clear and the above
line for me is unclear ...


Unclear in what way?  I think that should disable the HDMI audio, try 
it.  If only the HDMI output shows up, then switch the order of the 1 
and 0.

maybe i write something of wrong,
but
$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

this mean options snd-hda-intel enable=card,device
and 1,0 do not exist

journalctl -b --no-pager > journalctl.txt
https://gil.fedorapeople.org/journalctl.txt
again thanks
.g


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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/25/2016 01:03 PM, gil wrote:

Il 25/05/2016 21:50, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

sorry ... why? i dont want use HDMI ... i think was clear and the above
line for me is unclear ...


Unclear in what way?  I think that should disable the HDMI audio, try 
it.  If only the HDMI output shows up, then switch the order of the 1 and 0.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 25/05/2016 21:50, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0
sorry ... why? i dont want use HDMI ... i think was clear and the above 
line for me is unclear ...

regards
.g
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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/24/2016 09:50 PM, gil wrote:

is more similar to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6=110572


Definitely sounds similar.
Try putting "options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0" into 
/etc/modprobe.d/alsa-hdmi.conf and then reboot.


Also, is there anything related in the journal logs?
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

is more similar to http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6=110572

regards

.g


Il 24/05/2016 21:06, stan ha scritto:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:37:37 +0200
gil  wrote:


i changed the old video card because was broken ... i always used the
sound card on the motherboard ... until now ...
thanks
regards
.g

I recently had problems with sound because pulseaudio was upgraded to a
new version, and I had a personal configuration file in
~/.config/pulse/daemon.conf pointing to the old library directory.

It was pointing to an old library path, and overriding the new library
path, with
dl-search-path=
Once I commented that line, everything started working.  You could try
that.

I should have thought of this sooner.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 20:59, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/24/2016 09:37 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 18:15, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

Did you know if you do ALT-PRTSC, it only includes the active window,
not the entire screen.


yes but dont work


Maybe it's just a Gnome feature then.


There are more controls to the right, can you get a screenshot of
those as well?  Go to the right until those arrows are gone and then
take a screenshot.


https://gil.fedorapeople.org/alsamixer1.png


Nothing obvious there...


I have noticed those, but as far as I can tell, they won't help and I
would recommend removing any changes you have made so far. ALSA is
recognizing your card and is able to play to it.  The question is

no is does not do that. recognized only that one which i dont use(less)
aka GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo


Why do you say that?  You just showed me alsamixer with the controls 
for your motherboard sound card and earlier you showed aplay playing 
to it. You also said that the kde sound settings showed the builtin 
audio as well.  It's just that there is no sound getting to the output 
jack for some reason and I'm out of ideas.



cleanup ~/.config/pulse /etc/pulse/ and re installed pulseaudio


Could you try putting the previous video card back in and see if maybe
the problem is a conflict with the new card?

i changed the old video card because was broken ... i always used the
sound card on the motherboard ... until now ...


The video card was completely dead?

yes

Do you have any other video cards you could try?

no
I'm just wondering if somehow there is a conflict between the two hda 
audio devices.  It's the only thing you changed that could have 
affected this.

the speakers remain mute
thanks
regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 21:06, stan ha scritto:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:37:37 +0200
gil  wrote:


i changed the old video card because was broken ... i always used the
sound card on the motherboard ... until now ...
thanks
regards
.g

I recently had problems with sound because pulseaudio was upgraded to a
new version, and I had a personal configuration file in
~/.config/pulse/daemon.conf pointing to the old library directory.

It was pointing to an old library path, and overriding the new library
path, with
dl-search-path=
Once I commented that line, everything started working.  You could try
that.

I should have thought of this sooner.

thanks, but it not my case
regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 18:37:37 +0200
gil  wrote:

> i changed the old video card because was broken ... i always used the 
> sound card on the motherboard ... until now ...
> thanks
> regards
> .g

I recently had problems with sound because pulseaudio was upgraded to a
new version, and I had a personal configuration file in
~/.config/pulse/daemon.conf pointing to the old library directory.

It was pointing to an old library path, and overriding the new library
path, with
dl-search-path=
Once I commented that line, everything started working.  You could try
that.  

I should have thought of this sooner.

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/24/2016 09:37 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 18:15, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

Did you know if you do ALT-PRTSC, it only includes the active window,
not the entire screen.


yes but dont work


Maybe it's just a Gnome feature then.


There are more controls to the right, can you get a screenshot of
those as well?  Go to the right until those arrows are gone and then
take a screenshot.


https://gil.fedorapeople.org/alsamixer1.png


Nothing obvious there...


I have noticed those, but as far as I can tell, they won't help and I
would recommend removing any changes you have made so far.  ALSA is
recognizing your card and is able to play to it.  The question is

no is does not do that. recognized only that one which i dont use(less)
aka GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo


Why do you say that?  You just showed me alsamixer with the controls for 
your motherboard sound card and earlier you showed aplay playing to it. 
You also said that the kde sound settings showed the builtin audio as 
well.  It's just that there is no sound getting to the output jack for 
some reason and I'm out of ideas.



Could you try putting the previous video card back in and see if maybe
the problem is a conflict with the new card?

i changed the old video card because was broken ... i always used the
sound card on the motherboard ... until now ...


The video card was completely dead?  Do you have any other video cards 
you could try?  I'm just wondering if somehow there is a conflict 
between the two hda audio devices.  It's the only thing you changed that 
could have affected this.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 18:15, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/24/2016 09:01 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 17:47, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/24/2016 07:43 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 16:04, stan ha scritto:
If you do an  alsamixer -c 0  , and look at master, is there MM at 
the

bottom?  If there is, press M to unmute, and try again. That unmutes
the output in alsa, whereas the other is for pulse.

master is at the max value and have 00 at the bottom.


That should not be possible, but would explain the problem. What
happens if you try to change the volume?


nothing is happening


I think you missed a "1" in the previous message.  The number is 
"100", not "00". :-)



Can you get a screenshot of alsamixer?

https://gil.fedorapeople.org/alsamixer.png


Did you know if you do ALT-PRTSC, it only includes the active window, 
not the entire screen.



yes but dont work
There are more controls to the right, can you get a screenshot of 
those as well?  Go to the right until those arrows are gone and then 
take a screenshot.



https://gil.fedorapeople.org/alsamixer1.png
I assume you plugged the speakers into the same jack they were in 
before, but can you double-check?  Most motherboards have several 
audio jacks now and it's easy to plug into the wrong one.  Also, the 
front middle output is muted, try bringing that up as well.



yes, labelled as "line out"

sorry for the question but you have noticed all my changes to resolve
this problem (/etc/*)?


I have noticed those, but as far as I can tell, they won't help and I 
would recommend removing any changes you have made so far. ALSA is 
recognizing your card and is able to play to it.  The question is 
no is does not do that. recognized only that one which i dont use(less) 
aka GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo

just why is there no sound coming out?

Could you try putting the previous video card back in and see if maybe 
the problem is a conflict with the new card?
i changed the old video card because was broken ... i always used the 
sound card on the motherboard ... until now ...

thanks
regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/24/2016 09:01 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 17:47, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/24/2016 07:43 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 16:04, stan ha scritto:

If you do an  alsamixer -c 0  , and look at master, is there MM at the
bottom?  If there is, press M to unmute, and try again.  That unmutes
the output in alsa, whereas the other is for pulse.

master is at the max value and have 00 at the bottom.


That should not be possible, but would explain the problem.  What
happens if you try to change the volume?


nothing is happening


I think you missed a "1" in the previous message.  The number is "100", 
not "00". :-)



Can you get a screenshot of alsamixer?

https://gil.fedorapeople.org/alsamixer.png


Did you know if you do ALT-PRTSC, it only includes the active window, 
not the entire screen.


There are more controls to the right, can you get a screenshot of those 
as well?  Go to the right until those arrows are gone and then take a 
screenshot.


I assume you plugged the speakers into the same jack they were in 
before, but can you double-check?  Most motherboards have several audio 
jacks now and it's easy to plug into the wrong one.  Also, the front 
middle output is muted, try bringing that up as well.



sorry for the question but you have noticed all my changes to resolve
this problem (/etc/*)?


I have noticed those, but as far as I can tell, they won't help and I 
would recommend removing any changes you have made so far.  ALSA is 
recognizing your card and is able to play to it.  The question is just 
why is there no sound coming out?


Could you try putting the previous video card back in and see if maybe 
the problem is a conflict with the new card?

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 17:47, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/24/2016 07:43 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 16:04, stan ha scritto:

If you do an  alsamixer -c 0  , and look at master, is there MM at the
bottom?  If there is, press M to unmute, and try again.  That unmutes
the output in alsa, whereas the other is for pulse.

master is at the max value and have 00 at the bottom.

That should not be possible, but would explain the problem.  What 
happens if you try to change the volume?



nothing is happening

Can you get a screenshot of alsamixer?

https://gil.fedorapeople.org/alsamixer.png
sorry for the question but you have noticed all my changes to resolve 
this problem (/etc/*)?

regards
.g

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/24/2016 07:43 AM, gil wrote:

Il 24/05/2016 16:04, stan ha scritto:

If you do an  alsamixer -c 0  , and look at master, is there MM at the
bottom?  If there is, press M to unmute, and try again.  That unmutes
the output in alsa, whereas the other is for pulse.

master is at the max value and have 00 at the bottom.

That should not be possible, but would explain the problem.  What 
happens if you try to change the volume?


Can you get a screenshot of alsamixer?
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 16:04, stan ha scritto:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:09:22 +0200
gil  wrote:


Il 24/05/2016 08:49, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/23/2016 03:13 PM, gil wrote:

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
  

Did you hear anything from any of these?  The first one should have
played the sound.

No I have heard nothing.
speakers level are set at max value

alsa is working fine.  So, this is a configuration issue.

Is max you mention for the pulse setting that shows a single bar when
running alsamixer?

Hi
yes but now point to SBx00 Azalia, but again no sound

If you do an  alsamixer -c 0  , and look at master, is there MM at the
bottom?  If there is, press M to unmute, and try again.  That unmutes
the output in alsa, whereas the other is for pulse.

master is at the max value and have 00 at the bottom.

i edit /etc/modprobe.d/soundcard.conf
now have this content/s

alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=auto vid=1002 pid=4383

vid and pid take by
$  lspci -nn |grep -i audio
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] 
SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383] (rev 40)
04:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio 
Controller [10de:0e0f] (rev a1)


thanks
.g

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Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Tue, 24 May 2016 09:09:22 +0200
gil  wrote:

> Il 24/05/2016 08:49, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
> > On 05/23/2016 03:13 PM, gil wrote:  
> >> $ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
> >> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> >> Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
> >> $ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
> >> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> >> Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
> >> $ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
> >> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> >> Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
> >> $ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
> >> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit
> >> Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
> >>  
> > Did you hear anything from any of these?  The first one should have 
> > played the sound.  
> No I have heard nothing.
> speakers level are set at max value

alsa is working fine.  So, this is a configuration issue.

Is max you mention for the pulse setting that shows a single bar when
running alsamixer?

If you do an  alsamixer -c 0  , and look at master, is there MM at the
bottom?  If there is, press M to unmute, and try again.  That unmutes
the output in alsa, whereas the other is for pulse.
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 08:49, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/23/2016 03:13 PM, gil wrote:

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

Did you hear anything from any of these?  The first one should have 
played the sound.

No I have heard nothing.
speakers level are set at max value
thanks
.g

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/23/2016 03:13 PM, gil wrote:

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

Did you hear anything from any of these?  The first one should have 
played the sound.

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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 24/05/2016 00:18, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/23/2016 03:13 PM, gil wrote:

$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

sorry for the "noise"


Does this mean you have it working now?

hi
No, do not work :(
i have no output in my speakers ...
thanks

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Re: audio problems

[Samuel Sieb]

On 05/23/2016 03:13 PM, gil wrote:

$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
$ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

sorry for the "noise"


Does this mean you have it working now?
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 23/05/2016 22:56, stan ha scritto:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 16:02:35 +0200
gil  wrote:



Are they turned on in pulse?  Install pavucontrol if it isn't
already installed, and fire it up.  Look at the default device.  Is
it the device you want to have as default, the AMD card, and not
the hdmi device?

So, if you set the AMD card as your default in pavucontrol, your
problem should be solved.

tried, do not resolve the problem, mybe with gnome or other DE
work ...

What if you turn off the amd card in pavucontrol?  (Last tab)

Then run aplay -D plughw:[card number],0 some_wav_file.wav

Pulse no longer controls this device, so it is strictly alsa.  The -D
is telling it which device number to use, use the number from the
aplay -l  command.  It has to be a wav file since aplay doesn't know
about compressed formats unless you add some other options.

Does it play?  If it does, alsa is working, and you only have a pulse
configuration issue.

$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: ALC892 Digital [ALC892 Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little 
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

$ aplay -D plughw:0,1 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little 
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

$ aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little 
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono

$ aplay -D plughw:1,7 /usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav
Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/purple/alert.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little 
Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono


sorry for the "noise"
.g

If it doesn't, alsa isn't working, and that would explain why pulse
isn't working, since pulse depends on alsa under the covers.  Are your
speakers plugged in?  Is the volume turned up?  I know, obvious things,
but sometimes those are the things that bite.


The other thing is that each time that the computer boots, devices
are loaded in random order, unless you put a file
in /etc/modprobe.d.  I use the name soundcard.conf for the file,
and this is what I have in it.  You should be able to modify this
for your needs.

tried, adding
"options snd_hda_intel index=0 model=auto" ... but do not work
  
It's been a long time since I messed with this, so I've forgotten the

arcane syntax.  You could try the alsa-user mailing list.  Since you
have two hda-intel cards, you need to differentiate between them
somehow, so you are telling alsa that the amd card always goes in slot
0. They might be able to tell you how.  Your command above will accept
either the amd or hdmi for slot 0, since they are both hda-intel.
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 23/05/2016 22:56, stan ha scritto:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 16:02:35 +0200
gil  wrote:



Are they turned on in pulse?  Install pavucontrol if it isn't
already installed, and fire it up.  Look at the default device.  Is
it the device you want to have as default, the AMD card, and not
the hdmi device?

So, if you set the AMD card as your default in pavucontrol, your
problem should be solved.

tried, do not resolve the problem, mybe with gnome or other DE
work ...

Hi
thanks for your interest

What if you turn off the amd card in pavucontrol?  (Last tab)

Then run aplay -D plughw:[card number],0 some_wav_file.wav

Pulse no longer controls this device, so it is strictly alsa.  The -D
is telling it which device number to use, use the number from the
aplay -l  command.  It has to be a wav file since aplay doesn't know
about compressed formats unless you add some other options.

Does it play?  If it does, alsa is working, and you only have a pulse
configuration issue.

No
$ aplay -D plughw:0,0 piano2.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: Device or resource busy
$ aplay -D plughw:1,0 piano2.wav
aplay: main:786: audio open error: File or directory does not exist


If it doesn't, alsa isn't working, and that would explain why pulse
isn't working, since pulse depends on alsa under the covers.  Are your
speakers plugged in?  Is the volume turned up?  I know, obvious things,
but sometimes those are the things that bite.

yes all is connected and level adjusted to the max value
pavucontrol list this device (sorry i repeat myself )
04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller 
(rev a1)

Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8576
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
but i need to use
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 
Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)

Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0892
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel

/etc/modprobe.d/soundcard.conf contents

options slots=snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel id="SB"
options snd-hda-intel index=0


/etc/pulse/default.pa

#!/usr/bin/pulseaudio -nF
#
# This file is part of PulseAudio.
#
# PulseAudio is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
# under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License as published by
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or
# (at your option) any later version.
#
# PulseAudio is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
# WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the GNU
# General Public License for more details.
#
# You should have received a copy of the GNU Lesser General Public License
# along with PulseAudio; if not, see .

# This startup script is used only if PulseAudio is started per-user
# (i.e. not in system mode)

.nofail

### Load something into the sample cache
#load-sample-lazy x11-bell /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/bell.oga
#load-sample-lazy pulse-hotplug 
/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/device-added.oga
#load-sample-lazy pulse-coldplug 
/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/device-added.oga
#load-sample-lazy pulse-access 
/usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/message.oga


.fail

### Automatically restore the volume of streams and devices
load-module module-device-restore
load-module module-stream-restore
load-module module-card-restore

### Automatically augment property information from .desktop files
### stored in /usr/share/application
load-module module-augment-properties

### Should be after module-*-restore but before module-*-detect
load-module module-switch-on-port-available

### Load audio drivers statically
### (it's probably better to not load these drivers manually, but instead
### use module-udev-detect -- see below -- for doing this automatically)
#load-module module-alsa-sink
#load-module module-alsa-source device=hw:1,0
#load-module module-null-sink
#load-module module-pipe-sink

### Automatically load driver modules depending on the hardware available
.ifexists module-udev-detect.so
load-module module-udev-detect
.else
### Use the static hardware detection module (for systems that lack udev 
support)

load-module module-detect
.endif

### Automatically connect sink and source if JACK server is present
.ifexists module-jackdbus-detect.so
.nofail
load-module module-jackdbus-detect channels=2
.fail
.endif

### Automatically load driver modules for Bluetooth hardware
.ifexists module-bluetooth-policy.so
load-module module-bluetooth-policy
.endif

.ifexists module-bluetooth-discover.so
load-module module-bluetooth-discover
.endif

### Load several protocols
.ifexists module-esound-protocol-unix.so
load-module module-esound-protocol-unix
.endif
load-module module-native-protocol-unix

### Network access (may be configured with paprefs, so leave 

Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Mon, 23 May 2016 16:02:35 +0200
gil  wrote:


> > Are they turned on in pulse?  Install pavucontrol if it isn't
> > already installed, and fire it up.  Look at the default device.  Is
> > it the device you want to have as default, the AMD card, and not
> > the hdmi device?
> >
> > So, if you set the AMD card as your default in pavucontrol, your
> > problem should be solved.  
> tried, do not resolve the problem, mybe with gnome or other DE
> work ...

What if you turn off the amd card in pavucontrol?  (Last tab)

Then run aplay -D plughw:[card number],0 some_wav_file.wav

Pulse no longer controls this device, so it is strictly alsa.  The -D
is telling it which device number to use, use the number from the
aplay -l  command.  It has to be a wav file since aplay doesn't know
about compressed formats unless you add some other options.

Does it play?  If it does, alsa is working, and you only have a pulse
configuration issue.

If it doesn't, alsa isn't working, and that would explain why pulse
isn't working, since pulse depends on alsa under the covers.  Are your
speakers plugged in?  Is the volume turned up?  I know, obvious things,
but sometimes those are the things that bite.

> > The other thing is that each time that the computer boots, devices
> > are loaded in random order, unless you put a file
> > in /etc/modprobe.d.  I use the name soundcard.conf for the file,
> > and this is what I have in it.  You should be able to modify this
> > for your needs.  
> tried, adding
> "options snd_hda_intel index=0 model=auto" ... but do not work
 
It's been a long time since I messed with this, so I've forgotten the
arcane syntax.  You could try the alsa-user mailing list.  Since you
have two hda-intel cards, you need to differentiate between them
somehow, so you are telling alsa that the amd card always goes in slot
0. They might be able to tell you how.  Your command above will accept
either the amd or hdmi for slot 0, since they are both hda-intel.
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Re: audio problems

[gil]

Il 23/05/2016 15:30, stan ha scritto:

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:47:12 +0200
gil <punto...@libero.it> wrote:


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Il 23/05/2016 09:41, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/22/2016 03:06 AM, gil wrote:

Internal Audio Stereo analogic

GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo
  

Is the internal audio output and not the HDMI selected?
  

sorry what you do mean?
"GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo" is the audio device in
my video card

04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio
Controller (rev a1)
   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8576
   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
   Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
, and
i must use the
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
   Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0892
   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
   Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
but is not listed in kde pannel control ...

aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

This shows that alsa knows about your hardware.

Run alsamixer in a terminal.  You should get a single volume control
for the pulseaudio output.  Make sure that it is up and not muted.
Press F6 to select a different device and select 0, your HDA device.
Check that the volume controls and switches are set correctly.
Normally, pulseaudio should manage it, but this gives you a chance
to verify and test.
--

already done but dont solve anythings
thanks
best

hi

Are they turned on in pulse?  Install pavucontrol if it isn't already
installed, and fire it up.  Look at the default device.  Is it the
device you want to have as default, the AMD card, and not the hdmi
device?

So, if you set the AMD card as your default in pavucontrol, your
problem should be solved.

tried, do not resolve the problem, mybe with gnome or other DE work ...

The other thing is that each time that the computer boots, devices are
loaded in random order, unless you put a file in /etc/modprobe.d.  I
use the name soundcard.conf for the file, and this is what I have in
it.  You should be able to modify this for your needs.

tried, adding
"options snd_hda_intel index=0 model=auto" ... but do not work


options snd cards_limit=8
options slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-ice1724,snd-ca0106,snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel id="SB"
options snd-hda-intel index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-ca0106 id="CA0106"
options snd-ca0106 index=1
alias snd-card-2 snd-ice1724 id="Revolution51"
options snd-ice1724 index=2
#alias snd-card-3 snd-cmipci
#options snd_cmipci index=3
alias snd-card-3 snd-hda-intel id="HDMI"
options snd-hda-intel index=3
alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=7

Set the AMD sound device as say, device 3, and make it the default in
pavucontrol, and you should be consistent across boots.

The trouble for you is that both of your devices are snd-hda-intel.
There is probably a way to qualify them further in the options slots
line, but I don't know it.  So, you might still end up with random
order after a boot even with the file in place.  You might be able to
turn off the hdmi device in pavucontrol if you don't use it, and have
only the AMD available, which finesses the problem.

This should get you closer, at least.
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Re: audio problems

[stan]

On Mon, 23 May 2016 11:47:12 +0200
gil <punto...@libero.it> wrote:

>  Messaggio Inoltrato 
> Oggetto:      Re: audio problems
> Data: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:14:00 +0200
> Mittente: gil <punto...@libero.it>
> Rispondi-a:   Development discussions related to Fedora 
> <de...@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> A:de...@lists.fedoraproject.org
> 
> 
> 
> Il 23/05/2016 09:41, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:
> > On 05/22/2016 03:06 AM, gil wrote:  
> >> Internal Audio Stereo analogic
> >>
> >> GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo
> >>  
> > Is the internal audio output and not the HDMI selected?
> >  
> sorry what you do mean?
> "GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo" is the audio device in
> my video card
> 
> 04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio
> Controller (rev a1)
>   Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8576
>   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>   Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
> , and
> i must use the
> 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
> Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
>   Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0892
>   Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
>   Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
> but is not listed in kde pannel control ...
> >> aplay -l
> >>  List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
> >> card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
> >>   Subdevices: 1/1
> >>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0  
> >
> > This shows that alsa knows about your hardware.
> >
> > Run alsamixer in a terminal.  You should get a single volume control
> > for the pulseaudio output.  Make sure that it is up and not muted.
> > Press F6 to select a different device and select 0, your HDA device.
> > Check that the volume controls and switches are set correctly.
> > Normally, pulseaudio should manage it, but this gives you a chance
> > to verify and test.
> > --  
> already done but dont solve anythings
> thanks
> best

Are they turned on in pulse?  Install pavucontrol if it isn't already
installed, and fire it up.  Look at the default device.  Is it the
device you want to have as default, the AMD card, and not the hdmi
device?

So, if you set the AMD card as your default in pavucontrol, your
problem should be solved.

The other thing is that each time that the computer boots, devices are
loaded in random order, unless you put a file in /etc/modprobe.d.  I
use the name soundcard.conf for the file, and this is what I have in
it.  You should be able to modify this for your needs.

options snd cards_limit=8
options slots=snd-hda-intel,snd-ice1724,snd-ca0106,snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel id="SB"
options snd-hda-intel index=0
alias snd-card-1 snd-ca0106 id="CA0106"
options snd-ca0106 index=1
alias snd-card-2 snd-ice1724 id="Revolution51"
options snd-ice1724 index=2
#alias snd-card-3 snd-cmipci
#options snd_cmipci index=3
alias snd-card-3 snd-hda-intel id="HDMI"
options snd-hda-intel index=3
alias snd-card-7 snd-usb-audio
options snd-usb-audio index=7

Set the AMD sound device as say, device 3, and make it the default in
pavucontrol, and you should be consistent across boots.

The trouble for you is that both of your devices are snd-hda-intel.
There is probably a way to qualify them further in the options slots
line, but I don't know it.  So, you might still end up with random
order after a boot even with the file in place.  You might be able to
turn off the hdmi device in pavucontrol if you don't use it, and have
only the AMD available, which finesses the problem.

This should get you closer, at least.
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[389-users] Re: Fwd: Re: audio problems

[Rob Crittenden]

gil wrote:

Not sure where you intended to forward this but this list is for 
discussion of the 389-ds LDAP server.


rob





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Il 23/05/2016 09:41, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/22/2016 03:06 AM, gil wrote:

Internal Audio Stereo analogic

GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo


Is the internal audio output and not the HDMI selected?


sorry what you do mean?
"GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo" is the audio device in
my video card

04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
(rev a1)
  Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8576
  Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
  Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
, and
i must use the
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
  Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0892
  Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
  Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
but is not listed in kde pannel control ...

aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


This shows that alsa knows about your hardware.

Run alsamixer in a terminal.  You should get a single volume control
for the pulseaudio output.  Make sure that it is up and not muted.
Press F6 to select a different device and select 0, your HDA device.
Check that the volume controls and switches are set correctly.
Normally, pulseaudio should manage it, but this gives you a chance to
verify and test.
--

already done but dont solve anythings
thanks
best
.g

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Fwd: Re: audio problems

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Il 23/05/2016 09:41, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/22/2016 03:06 AM, gil wrote:

Internal Audio Stereo analogic

GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo


Is the internal audio output and not the HDMI selected?


sorry what you do mean?
"GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo" is the audio device in
my video card

04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
(rev a1)
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8576
 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
 Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
, and
i must use the
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
 Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0892
 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
 Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
but is not listed in kde pannel control ...

aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


This shows that alsa knows about your hardware.

Run alsamixer in a terminal.  You should get a single volume control
for the pulseaudio output.  Make sure that it is up and not muted.
Press F6 to select a different device and select 0, your HDA device.
Check that the volume controls and switches are set correctly.
Normally, pulseaudio should manage it, but this gives you a chance to
verify and test.
--

already done but dont solve anythings
thanks
best
.g

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[389-users] Fwd: Re: audio problems

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Il 23/05/2016 09:41, Samuel Sieb ha scritto:

On 05/22/2016 03:06 AM, gil wrote:

Internal Audio Stereo analogic

GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo


Is the internal audio output and not the HDMI selected?


sorry what you do mean?
"GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller Digital stereo" is the audio device in
my video card

04:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation GK208 HDMI/DP Audio Controller
(rev a1)
 Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 8576
 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
 Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
, and
i must use the
00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40)
 Subsystem: ASRock Incorporation Device 0892
 Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
 Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
but is not listed in kde pannel control ...

aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


This shows that alsa knows about your hardware.

Run alsamixer in a terminal.  You should get a single volume control
for the pulseaudio output.  Make sure that it is up and not muted.
Press F6 to select a different device and select 0, your HDA device.
Check that the volume controls and switches are set correctly.
Normally, pulseaudio should manage it, but this gives you a chance to
verify and test.
--

already done but dont solve anythings
thanks
best
.g

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Re: Audio problems

[Tim]

Allegedly, on or about 15 January 2014, Robert Moskowitz sent:
 Using the Gnome 3.10 settings  sound, all I see is HDMI, Speakers - 
 built-in Audio, and Analog Output - Built-in Audio. Speakers is how it
 comes up.  The profile is only Analog Stereo Output.  The test results
 in no sound from the speakers, but from the headphones.  If I switch
 to Analog Output, still nothing out of the speakers. 

On some hardware (at least two of my machines), you have to pick the
wrong thing to get sound out.  e.g. Out of choices like headphones,
speakers, line-out, I have to pick headphones to get sound out of my
laptop, whether it's listening via the built in speakers or the
headphones.

I don't know if this is a bug in the software, or whether the hardware
describes itself badly.

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Re: Audio problems

[poma]

On 15.01.2014 20:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

 Using the Gnome 3.10 settings  sound, all I see is HDMI, Speakers - 
 built-in Audio, and Analog Output - Built-in Audio. Speakers is how it 
 comes up.  The profile is only Analog Stereo Output.  The test results 
 in no sound from the speakers, but from the headphones.  If I switch to 
 Analog Output, still nothing out of the speakers.

Xfce/pulseaudio-module-x11,
audio works just fine.


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Re: Audio problems

[Christopher Ross]

This could be related to a regression I am seeing on Fedora 20. Pretty 
much every time a user logs in (or switch user) on Fedora 20 with KDE the 
audio output defaults to headphones and I have to manually change it to 
line out, even though there is nothing connected to the headphones 
socket and there is an amplifier connected to the line out socket. If I do 
plug in headphones thereafter, the sound switches to headphones as it 
should. This used to work exactly as you would expect (i.e. defaulting to 
line out unless there are headphones plugged in) under Fedora 19 and 18 
before that on exactly the same hardware.


If anyone can point me to a solution I would be grateful.

Regards,
Chris R.


On Wed, 8 Jan 2014, Robert Moskowitz wrote:


Lenovo x120e

Builtin speakers work for a couple minutes after a boot, then typically stop 
working.  Sometimes may work for a bit longer, but always stop.


Headphones (you have to use a combo headphone/mic, like the one from your 
smartphone) works no problem.


The schematic from the manual shows the wires going into the jack component 
and from there to the speaker component.  The bios speaker mute button 
Fn-esc can tell the difference if a headset is plugged in or not (mute 
headset/speaker); perhaps this is an impedence test.


Can this in anyway be a software issue?  I suppose I could tear into the 
unit.  I have a busted older unit; I cooked the processor board with a coke 
(tm) spill.  I doubt it got the sound subsystem.




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Re: Audio problems

[Darryl L. Pierce]

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:17:20AM +, Christopher Ross wrote:
 
 This could be related to a regression I am seeing on Fedora 20.
 Pretty much every time a user logs in (or switch user) on Fedora 20
 with KDE the audio output defaults to headphones and I have to
 manually change it to line out, even though there is nothing
 connected to the headphones socket and there is an amplifier
 connected to the line out socket. If I do plug in headphones
 thereafter, the sound switches to headphones as it should. This used
 to work exactly as you would expect (i.e. defaulting to line out
 unless there are headphones plugged in) under Fedora 19 and 18
 before that on exactly the same hardware.
 
 If anyone can point me to a solution I would be grateful.

On my laptop (Lenovo T530) logging into Gnome the audio always goes to
the digital output via HDMI. I have to go into sound settings to put it
back to analog for my docking station or headphone jack.

F19 didn't have this issue.

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Re: Audio problems

[Robert Moskowitz]

On 01/15/2014 01:54 PM, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:17:20AM +, Christopher Ross wrote:

This could be related to a regression I am seeing on Fedora 20.
Pretty much every time a user logs in (or switch user) on Fedora 20
with KDE the audio output defaults to headphones and I have to
manually change it to line out, even though there is nothing
connected to the headphones socket and there is an amplifier
connected to the line out socket. If I do plug in headphones
thereafter, the sound switches to headphones as it should. This used
to work exactly as you would expect (i.e. defaulting to line out
unless there are headphones plugged in) under Fedora 19 and 18
before that on exactly the same hardware.

If anyone can point me to a solution I would be grateful.

On my laptop (Lenovo T530) logging into Gnome the audio always goes to
the digital output via HDMI. I have to go into sound settings to put it
back to analog for my docking station or headphone jack.


Using the Gnome 3.10 settings  sound, all I see is HDMI, Speakers - 
built-in Audio, and Analog Output - Built-in Audio. Speakers is how it 
comes up.  The profile is only Analog Stereo Output.  The test results 
in no sound from the speakers, but from the headphones.  If I switch to 
Analog Output, still nothing out of the speakers.



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Audio problems

[Robert Moskowitz]

Lenovo x120e

Builtin speakers work for a couple minutes after a boot, then typically 
stop working.  Sometimes may work for a bit longer, but always stop.


Headphones (you have to use a combo headphone/mic, like the one from 
your smartphone) works no problem.


The schematic from the manual shows the wires going into the jack 
component and from there to the speaker component.  The bios speaker 
mute button Fn-esc can tell the difference if a headset is plugged in 
or not (mute headset/speaker); perhaps this is an impedence test.


Can this in anyway be a software issue?  I suppose I could tear into the 
unit.  I have a busted older unit; I cooked the processor board with a 
coke (tm) spill.  I doubt it got the sound subsystem.




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f18 audio problems

[Mike Wright]

Hi all,

My f18-xfce install has serious bugs in its audio programs.

1) There is no volume control popup.  The only way to view the audio 
level is to use the application's Multimedia-Audio Mixer and/or 
Multimedia-Volume Control.  On Audio Mixer the Master control responds 
to the keyboard volume controls.  On Volume Control-Output Devices also 
responds.  Panel applet Audio Mixer seems to off in a world of its own.


2) Panel applet Audio Mixer (different than Multimedia-Audio Mixer) 
disappears on mouse out even when set to Always on Top.


3) Multimedia-Audio Mixer-Master when moved to zero volume via the 
mouse causes Mute on both Multimedia-Audio Mixer and Multimedia-Volume 
Control.  Raising it leaves Multimedia-Volume Control muted.


4) Multimedia-Volume Control-Input Devices-Port-Line In volume 
setting have no effect.  Multimedia-Audio Mixer-Line-in responds to 
mouse control raising and lowering the input level.


5) Line Input seems to have escaped from the rest of the audio system. 
While applications respond to volume adjustment Line Input remains fixed.


6) Moving any volume control to zero mutes Line Input; raising it 
returns it to a fixed level (all or none).


7) Occasionally the panel Audio Mixer applet does control line input 
volume but I have yet to determine how or what causes that to happen.


This seems to be one of those situations where the left hand doesn't 
know what the right hand is doing.


Anybody have any insight?  Others noticed this?

Thanks,
Mike Wright
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Re: f18 audio problems

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Is it Gnome Shell Desktop I guess?


Regards,
LAILAH


2013/5/8, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com:
 Hi all,

 My f18-xfce install has serious bugs in its audio programs.

 1) There is no volume control popup.  The only way to view the audio
 level is to use the application's Multimedia-Audio Mixer and/or
 Multimedia-Volume Control.  On Audio Mixer the Master control responds
 to the keyboard volume controls.  On Volume Control-Output Devices also
 responds.  Panel applet Audio Mixer seems to off in a world of its own.

 2) Panel applet Audio Mixer (different than Multimedia-Audio Mixer)
 disappears on mouse out even when set to Always on Top.

 3) Multimedia-Audio Mixer-Master when moved to zero volume via the
 mouse causes Mute on both Multimedia-Audio Mixer and Multimedia-Volume
 Control.  Raising it leaves Multimedia-Volume Control muted.

 4) Multimedia-Volume Control-Input Devices-Port-Line In volume
 setting have no effect.  Multimedia-Audio Mixer-Line-in responds to
 mouse control raising and lowering the input level.

 5) Line Input seems to have escaped from the rest of the audio system.
 While applications respond to volume adjustment Line Input remains fixed.

 6) Moving any volume control to zero mutes Line Input; raising it
 returns it to a fixed level (all or none).

 7) Occasionally the panel Audio Mixer applet does control line input
 volume but I have yet to determine how or what causes that to happen.

 This seems to be one of those situations where the left hand doesn't
 know what the right hand is doing.

 Anybody have any insight?  Others noticed this?

 Thanks,
 Mike Wright
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Re: f18 audio problems

[poma]

On 08.05.2013 22:56, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
 Is it Gnome Shell Desktop I guess?

…
 My f18-xfce …

:)


poma


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Re: f18 audio problems

[Mike Wright]

05/08/2013 01:56 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:

Is it Gnome Shell Desktop I guess?


xfce

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Re: f18 audio problems

[Sylvia Sánchez]

Aaah!  Sorry!  I didn't see it.

Next time I will read twice before writing  :-P



2013/5/8, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com:
 05/08/2013 01:56 PM, Sylvia Sánchez wrote:
 Is it Gnome Shell Desktop I guess?

 xfce

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Re: f18 audio problems

[poma]

On 08.05.2013 22:25, Mike Wright wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 My f18-xfce install has serious bugs in its audio programs.
 
 1) There is no volume control popup.  The only way to view the audio
 level is to use the application's Multimedia-Audio Mixer and/or
 Multimedia-Volume Control. …

Multimedia-PulseAudio Volume Control(pavucontrol)  :)

yum info xfce4-volumed
…
: The volume level is shown in a notification.  ;)

yum info xfce4-notifyd


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Re: f18 audio problems

[poma]

 Multimedia-PulseAudio Volume Control(pavucontrol)  :)
 
 yum info xfce4-volumed
 …
 : The volume level is shown in a notification.  ;)
 
 yum info xfce4-notifyd

and
yum info xfce4-mixer  :)

Panel- Add New Items… Audio Mixer
Playback: …(PulseAudio Mixer)


poma


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Re: f18 audio problems

[poma]

 Multimedia-PulseAudio Volume Control(pavucontrol)  :)

 yum info xfce4-volumed
 …
 : The volume level is shown in a notification.  ;)

 yum info xfce4-notifyd
 
 and
 yum info xfce4-mixer  :)
 
 Panel- Add New Items… Audio Mixer
 Playback: …(PulseAudio Mixer)

And yes, all this works very nicely. :)
It is important to note once again: PulseAudio. ;)

poma


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Re: f18 audio problems

[Mike Wright]

05/08/2013 02:38 PM, poma wrote:



Multimedia-PulseAudio Volume Control(pavucontrol)  :)

yum info xfce4-volumed
…
: The volume level is shown in a notification.  ;)

yum info xfce4-notifyd


and
yum info xfce4-mixer  :)

Panel- Add New Items… Audio Mixer
Playback: …(PulseAudio Mixer)


Thanks poma,

xfce4-volumed was missing but installing it had no noticeable effect.

Everything is still not working as before ;)

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Re: f18 audio problems

[poma]

On 09.05.2013 00:11, Mike Wright wrote:

…
 Everything is still not working as before ;)

Your Xfce need more love, so it'll work. =)

poma

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Re: f18 audio problems

[Joe Zeff]

On 05/08/2013 03:35 PM, poma wrote:

On 09.05.2013 00:11, Mike Wright wrote:

…

Everything is still not working as before ;)


Your Xfce need more love, so it'll work. =)



You might want to ask here for Xfce-specific suggestions: 
http://forum.xfce.org/index.php

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