Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-17 Thread Radek Holy
- Original Message - From: Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:01:27 PM Subject: Re: More dnf annoyance On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:51:47 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: dnf --refresh is more like dnf

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-16 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 11:51:47 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: dnf --refresh is more like dnf clean expire-cache, which sometimes gives additional updates to plain dnf upgrade, but there still seems some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available.

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-16 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: dnf --refresh is more like dnf clean expire-cache, which sometimes gives additional updates to plain dnf upgrade, but there still seems some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available. Doubtful. dnf update --refresh here

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-15 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 13:21:49 + (UTC), Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: dnf --refresh is more like dnf clean expire-cache, which sometimes gives additional updates to plain dnf upgrade, but there still seems some caching involved that keeps it from providing all updates available. Doubtful.

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-15 Thread Andreas M. Kirchwitz
Heinz Diehl htd...@fritha.org wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Yes, you are correct. Several people have verified this behavior, they

More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
Hi, F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Dnf hasn't been working properly since F22, while I had not a single problem with yum ever. Still I have to

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 12:50:02 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: Last Sunday, I've had a case, where I resorted to rm -rf /var/cache/dnf because neither dnf clean all nor dnf --refresh seems to have worked. No matter what I did dnf seems have refetched the same outdated mirror presenting me the

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. So two update commands at different times give different

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 12:16 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. Last Sunday,

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 10:35:04 +0200 Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then dnf clean all followed by dnf --refresh upgrade shows the same packets to be updated, and *some more*. I don't think that's new with dnf. I've seen similar

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So two update commands at different times give different results? If two update commands issued directly after another qualify as at different times, then yes. In fact, there was not more than max. one minute between the two. Dnf hasn't been working

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 11.08.2015, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should I use to keep my

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both cases. Ok, I see. So what command should

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in short: first running dnf --refresh upgrade shows some new packets. Then

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:41:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So two update commands at different times give different results? If two update commands issued directly after another qualify as at different times, then yes. In fact, there was not more

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:41 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 11.08.2015, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: So two update commands at different times give different results? If two update commands issued directly after another qualify as at different times, then yes. In fact, there was not more than

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 08/11/2015 04:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 04:35:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Yet two completely separate contacts with Fedora's metalink server. Trouble-shooting these kinds of problems would need to include a closer look at what mirrors you are assigned to in both

Re: More dnf annoyance

2015-08-11 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 15:42 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 01:32 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 13:13 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 08/11/2015 12:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Tue, 2015-08-11 at 10:35 +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: F22, in