[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-24 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
I applied a 90Mbs QOS Rate Limit with 10 set for the shares to both
interfaces of 2 of the hosts. My hosts names are swm-01 and swm-02.

Creating a small VM from a Cinder template and running it gave me a test VM.

When I migrated from swm-01 to swm-02, swm-01 immediately became
unresponsive to pings, SSH'es, and to the ovirt interface which marked
it as "NonResponsive" soon after the VM finished. The VM did finish
migrating, however I'm unsure if that's a good migration or not.

Thank you, Strahil.

On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 12:39 PM Strahil  wrote:
>
> What is your bandwidth threshold for the network used for VM migration ?
> Can you set a 90 mbit/s threshold (yes, less than 100mbit/s) and try to 
> migrate a small (1 GB RAM) VM ?
>
> Do you see disconnects ?
>
> If no, try a little bit up (the threshold)  and check again.
>
> Best Regards,
> Strahil NikolovOn Aug 23, 2019 23:19, "Curtis E. Combs Jr." 
>  wrote:
> >
> > It took a while for my servers to come back on the network this time.
> > I think it's due to ovirt continuing to try to migrate the VMs around
> > like I requested. The 3 servers' names are "swm-01, swm-02 and
> > swm-03". Eventually (about 2-3 minutes ago) they all came back online.
> >
> > So I disabled and stopped the lldpad service.
> >
> > Nope. Started some more migrations and swm-02 and swm-03 disappeared
> > again. No ping, SSH hung, same as before - almost as soon as the
> > migration started.
> >
> > If you wall have any ideas what switch-level setting might be enabled,
> > let me know, cause I'm stumped. I can add it to the ticket that's
> > requesting the port configurations. I've already added the port
> > numbers and switch name that I got from CDP.
> >
> > Thanks again, I really appreciate the help!
> > cecjr
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:28 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 8:03 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
> > >>  wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> This little cluster isn't in production or anything like that yet.
> > >>>
> > >>> So, I went ahead and used your ethtool commands to disable pause
> > >>> frames on both interfaces of each server. I then, chose a few VMs to
> > >>> migrate around at random.
> > >>>
> > >>> swm-02 and swm-03 both went out again. Unreachable. Can't ping, can't
> > >>> ssh, and the SSH session that I had open was unresponsive.
> > >>>
> > >>> Any other ideas?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Sorry, no. Looks like two different NICs with different drivers and 
> > >> frimware goes down together.
> > >> This is a strong indication that the root cause is related to the switch.
> > >> Maybe you can get some information about the switch config by
> > >> 'lldptool get-tlv -n -i em1'
> > >>
> > >
> > > Another guess:
> > > After the optional 'lldptool get-tlv -n -i em1'
> > > 'systemctl stop lldpad'
> > > another try to migrate.
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 PM Dominik Holler  
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:45 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
> > >>> >  wrote:
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Unfortunately, I can't check on the switch. Trust me, I've tried.
> > >>> >> These servers are in a Co-Lo and I've put 5 tickets in asking about
> > >>> >> the port configuration. They just get ignored - but that's par for 
> > >>> >> the
> > >>> >> coarse for IT here. Only about 2 out of 10 of our tickets get any
> > >>> >> response and usually the response doesn't help. Then the system they
> > >>> >> use auto-closes the ticket. That was why I was suspecting STP before.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> I can do ethtool. I do have root on these servers, though. Are you
> > >>> >> trying to get me to turn off link-speed auto-negotiation? Would you
> > >>> >> like me to try that?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It is ju

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 8:50 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>
> Is the nic to the network staying up or going down for a period?

Which nic? The one on the pserver or the virtual machine? For clarity,
I've only ever referred to the one on the pserver. I can't even reach
the VM when the pserver becomes unresponse during a migration, so I
can't reach the console for the VM even if the proxy is not involved
in the link down event.



> I'm just thinking, if the network has been configured to block unknown 
> unicast traffic, I think the VM would need to send a layer 2 frame to the 
> network before the network would send any frames to that switch port destined 
> for the VM.

Please, any and all ideas are welcome, and I'll try all of them. I
love this product, and I want to see it working well. I don't know
that it's configured to block unknown unicast traffic, I don't know
that it isn't - NOC doesn't tell me squat. Just inductively, I can,
maybe, think that if the switch somehow recognizes a mac on more than
one port, it shuts them both down - but that's just speculation on a
good day; I have no evidence of that. I can test again to be sure, but
I believe that both the sending and receiving migration server go down
during this event. Even more curious is that it happens over the 10g
FC link as well as the 1g copper, TP port.

Would it be a good test of your theory to set up an indefinite ping on
a VM when I can reach it and then migrate it to see if the outage
happens with the VM migrating?


> After migration, could you use the VM console to send a packet and then see 
> if you can SSH in? Is the default Gateway for the VM on the network side? A 
> ping to the Gateway should be good enough in that case.

During times when it's up after it's thrown its little fit, I can
change the migration network to either the 1g or 10g networks. So I
could set up a ping and let it go like I was saying before. It's worth
a shot






>
> On Sat., 24 Aug. 2019, 04:20 Curtis E. Combs Jr.,  wrote:
>>
>> It took a while for my servers to come back on the network this time.
>> I think it's due to ovirt continuing to try to migrate the VMs around
>> like I requested. The 3 servers' names are "swm-01, swm-02 and
>> swm-03". Eventually (about 2-3 minutes ago) they all came back online.
>>
>> So I disabled and stopped the lldpad service.
>>
>> Nope. Started some more migrations and swm-02 and swm-03 disappeared
>> again. No ping, SSH hung, same as before - almost as soon as the
>> migration started.
>>
>> If you wall have any ideas what switch-level setting might be enabled,
>> let me know, cause I'm stumped. I can add it to the ticket that's
>> requesting the port configurations. I've already added the port
>> numbers and switch name that I got from CDP.
>>
>> Thanks again, I really appreciate the help!
>> cecjr
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:28 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 8:03 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> This little cluster isn't in production or anything like that yet.
>> >>>
>> >>> So, I went ahead and used your ethtool commands to disable pause
>> >>> frames on both interfaces of each server. I then, chose a few VMs to
>> >>> migrate around at random.
>> >>>
>> >>> swm-02 and swm-03 both went out again. Unreachable. Can't ping, can't
>> >>> ssh, and the SSH session that I had open was unresponsive.
>> >>>
>> >>> Any other ideas?
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Sorry, no. Looks like two different NICs with different drivers and 
>> >> frimware goes down together.
>> >> This is a strong indication that the root cause is related to the switch.
>> >> Maybe you can get some information about the switch config by
>> >> 'lldptool get-tlv -n -i em1'
>> >>
>> >
>> > Another guess:
>> > After the optional 'lldptool get-tlv -n -i em1'
>> > 'systemctl stop lldpad'
>> > another try to migrate.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 PM Dominik Holler  
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:45 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>> >>> >  wrote:
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
It took a while for my servers to come back on the network this time.
I think it's due to ovirt continuing to try to migrate the VMs around
like I requested. The 3 servers' names are "swm-01, swm-02 and
swm-03". Eventually (about 2-3 minutes ago) they all came back online.

So I disabled and stopped the lldpad service.

Nope. Started some more migrations and swm-02 and swm-03 disappeared
again. No ping, SSH hung, same as before - almost as soon as the
migration started.

If you wall have any ideas what switch-level setting might be enabled,
let me know, cause I'm stumped. I can add it to the ticket that's
requesting the port configurations. I've already added the port
numbers and switch name that I got from CDP.

Thanks again, I really appreciate the help!
cecjr



On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 3:28 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 9:19 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 8:03 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This little cluster isn't in production or anything like that yet.
>>>
>>> So, I went ahead and used your ethtool commands to disable pause
>>> frames on both interfaces of each server. I then, chose a few VMs to
>>> migrate around at random.
>>>
>>> swm-02 and swm-03 both went out again. Unreachable. Can't ping, can't
>>> ssh, and the SSH session that I had open was unresponsive.
>>>
>>> Any other ideas?
>>>
>>
>> Sorry, no. Looks like two different NICs with different drivers and frimware 
>> goes down together.
>> This is a strong indication that the root cause is related to the switch.
>> Maybe you can get some information about the switch config by
>> 'lldptool get-tlv -n -i em1'
>>
>
> Another guess:
> After the optional 'lldptool get-tlv -n -i em1'
> 'systemctl stop lldpad'
> another try to migrate.
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:45 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Unfortunately, I can't check on the switch. Trust me, I've tried.
>>> >> These servers are in a Co-Lo and I've put 5 tickets in asking about
>>> >> the port configuration. They just get ignored - but that's par for the
>>> >> coarse for IT here. Only about 2 out of 10 of our tickets get any
>>> >> response and usually the response doesn't help. Then the system they
>>> >> use auto-closes the ticket. That was why I was suspecting STP before.
>>> >>
>>> >> I can do ethtool. I do have root on these servers, though. Are you
>>> >> trying to get me to turn off link-speed auto-negotiation? Would you
>>> >> like me to try that?
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> > It is just a suspicion, that the reason is pause frames.
>>> > Let's start on a NIC which is not used for ovirtmgmt, I guess em1.
>>> > Does 'ethtool -S em1  | grep pause' show something?
>>> > Does 'ethtool em1 | grep pause' indicates support for pause?
>>> > The current config is shown by 'ethtool -a em1'.
>>> > '-A autoneg' "Specifies whether pause autonegotiation should be enabled." 
>>> > according to ethtool doc.
>>> > Assuming flow control is enabled by default, I would try to  disable it 
>>> > via
>>> > 'ethtool -A em1 autoneg off rx off tx off'
>>> > and check if it is applied via
>>> > 'ethtool -a em1'
>>> > and check if the behavior under load changes.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:24 PM Dominik Holler  
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:49 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>>> >> >  wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Sure! Right now, I only have a 500gb partition on each node shared 
>>> >> >> over NFS, added as storage domains. This is on each node - so, 
>>> >> >> currently 3.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> How can the storage cause a node to drop out?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Thanks, I got it.
>>> >> > All three links go down on load, which causes NFS to fail.
>>> >> >
>>> >&g

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
This little cluster isn't in production or anything like that yet.

So, I went ahead and used your ethtool commands to disable pause
frames on both interfaces of each server. I then, chose a few VMs to
migrate around at random.

swm-02 and swm-03 both went out again. Unreachable. Can't ping, can't
ssh, and the SSH session that I had open was unresponsive.

Any other ideas?

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 1:50 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 6:45 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
> wrote:
>>
>> Unfortunately, I can't check on the switch. Trust me, I've tried.
>> These servers are in a Co-Lo and I've put 5 tickets in asking about
>> the port configuration. They just get ignored - but that's par for the
>> coarse for IT here. Only about 2 out of 10 of our tickets get any
>> response and usually the response doesn't help. Then the system they
>> use auto-closes the ticket. That was why I was suspecting STP before.
>>
>> I can do ethtool. I do have root on these servers, though. Are you
>> trying to get me to turn off link-speed auto-negotiation? Would you
>> like me to try that?
>>
>
> It is just a suspicion, that the reason is pause frames.
> Let's start on a NIC which is not used for ovirtmgmt, I guess em1.
> Does 'ethtool -S em1  | grep pause' show something?
> Does 'ethtool em1 | grep pause' indicates support for pause?
> The current config is shown by 'ethtool -a em1'.
> '-A autoneg' "Specifies whether pause autonegotiation should be enabled." 
> according to ethtool doc.
> Assuming flow control is enabled by default, I would try to  disable it via
> 'ethtool -A em1 autoneg off rx off tx off'
> and check if it is applied via
> 'ethtool -a em1'
> and check if the behavior under load changes.
>
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:24 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:49 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Sure! Right now, I only have a 500gb partition on each node shared over 
>> >> NFS, added as storage domains. This is on each node - so, currently 3.
>> >>
>> >> How can the storage cause a node to drop out?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Thanks, I got it.
>> > All three links go down on load, which causes NFS to fail.
>> >
>> > Can you check in the switch port configuration if there is some kind of 
>> > Ethernet flow control enabled?
>> > Can you try to modify the behavior by changing the settings of your host 
>> > interfaces, e.g.
>> >
>> > ethtool -A em1 autoneg off rx off tx off
>> >
>> > or
>> > ethtool -A em1 autoneg on rx on tx on
>> > ?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 11:46 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:41 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Also, if it helps, the hosts will sit there, quietly, for hours or
>> >>>> days before anything happens. They're up and working just fine. But
>> >>>> then, when I manually migrate a VM from one host to another, they
>> >>>> become completely inaccessible.
>> >>>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Can you share some details about your storage?
>> >>> Maybe there is a feature used during live migration, which triggers the 
>> >>> issue.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> These are vanilla-as-possible CentOS7 nodes. Very basic ovirt install
>> >>>> and configuration.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:33 AM Curtis E. Combs Jr.
>> >>>>  wrote:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Hey Dominik,
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Thanks for helping. I really want to try to use ovirt.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > When these events happen, I cannot even SSH to the nodes due to the
>> >>>> > link being down. After a little while, the hosts come back...
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM Dominik Holler  
>> >>>> > wrote:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Is you storage connected via NFS?
>> >>>> > > Can you manually access the storage on the host?
>> >>>

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Unfortunately, I can't check on the switch. Trust me, I've tried.
These servers are in a Co-Lo and I've put 5 tickets in asking about
the port configuration. They just get ignored - but that's par for the
coarse for IT here. Only about 2 out of 10 of our tickets get any
response and usually the response doesn't help. Then the system they
use auto-closes the ticket. That was why I was suspecting STP before.

I can do ethtool. I do have root on these servers, though. Are you
trying to get me to turn off link-speed auto-negotiation? Would you
like me to try that?

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 12:24 PM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:49 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
> wrote:
>>
>> Sure! Right now, I only have a 500gb partition on each node shared over NFS, 
>> added as storage domains. This is on each node - so, currently 3.
>>
>> How can the storage cause a node to drop out?
>>
>
> Thanks, I got it.
> All three links go down on load, which causes NFS to fail.
>
> Can you check in the switch port configuration if there is some kind of 
> Ethernet flow control enabled?
> Can you try to modify the behavior by changing the settings of your host 
> interfaces, e.g.
>
> ethtool -A em1 autoneg off rx off tx off
>
> or
> ethtool -A em1 autoneg on rx on tx on
> ?
>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 11:46 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:41 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Also, if it helps, the hosts will sit there, quietly, for hours or
>>>> days before anything happens. They're up and working just fine. But
>>>> then, when I manually migrate a VM from one host to another, they
>>>> become completely inaccessible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you share some details about your storage?
>>> Maybe there is a feature used during live migration, which triggers the 
>>> issue.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> These are vanilla-as-possible CentOS7 nodes. Very basic ovirt install
>>>> and configuration.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:33 AM Curtis E. Combs Jr.
>>>>  wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Hey Dominik,
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks for helping. I really want to try to use ovirt.
>>>> >
>>>> > When these events happen, I cannot even SSH to the nodes due to the
>>>> > link being down. After a little while, the hosts come back...
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM Dominik Holler  
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Is you storage connected via NFS?
>>>> > > Can you manually access the storage on the host?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:19 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>>>> > >  wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Sorry to dead bump this, but I'm beginning to suspect that maybe it's
>>>> > >> not STP that's the problem.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> 2 of my hosts just went down when a few VMs tried to migrate.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Do any of you have any idea what might be going on here? I don't even
>>>> > >> know where to start. I'm going to include the dmesg in case it helps.
>>>> > >> This happens on both of the hosts whenever any migration attempts to 
>>>> > >> start.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> [68099.245833] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Down
>>>> > >> [68099.246055] internal: port 1(em1) entered disabled state
>>>> > >> [68184.177343] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Down
>>>> > >> [68184.177789] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered disabled state
>>>> > >> [68184.177856] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, propagating
>>>> > >> [68277.078671] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 
>>>> > >> seconds.
>>>> > >> [68277.078700] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
>>>> > >> disables this message.
>>>> > >> [68277.078723] qemu-kvm

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Sure! Right now, I only have a 500gb partition on each node shared over
NFS, added as storage domains. This is on each node - so, currently 3.

How can the storage cause a node to drop out?

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019, 11:46 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:41 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
> wrote:
>
>> Also, if it helps, the hosts will sit there, quietly, for hours or
>> days before anything happens. They're up and working just fine. But
>> then, when I manually migrate a VM from one host to another, they
>> become completely inaccessible.
>>
>>
> Can you share some details about your storage?
> Maybe there is a feature used during live migration, which triggers the
> issue.
>
>
>
>> These are vanilla-as-possible CentOS7 nodes. Very basic ovirt install
>> and configuration.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:33 AM Curtis E. Combs Jr.
>>  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hey Dominik,
>> >
>> > Thanks for helping. I really want to try to use ovirt.
>> >
>> > When these events happen, I cannot even SSH to the nodes due to the
>> > link being down. After a little while, the hosts come back...
>> >
>> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM Dominik Holler 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Is you storage connected via NFS?
>> > > Can you manually access the storage on the host?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:19 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr. <
>> ej.alb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Sorry to dead bump this, but I'm beginning to suspect that maybe it's
>> > >> not STP that's the problem.
>> > >>
>> > >> 2 of my hosts just went down when a few VMs tried to migrate.
>> > >>
>> > >> Do any of you have any idea what might be going on here? I don't even
>> > >> know where to start. I'm going to include the dmesg in case it helps.
>> > >> This happens on both of the hosts whenever any migration attempts to
>> start.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> [68099.245833] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Down
>> > >> [68099.246055] internal: port 1(em1) entered disabled state
>> > >> [68184.177343] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Down
>> > >> [68184.177789] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered disabled state
>> > >> [68184.177856] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, propagating
>> > >> [68277.078671] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120
>> seconds.
>> > >> [68277.078700] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
>> > >> disables this message.
>> > >> [68277.078723] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1
>> 0x01a0
>> > >> [68277.078727] Call Trace:
>> > >> [68277.078738]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
>> > >> [68277.078743]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
>> > >> [68277.078746]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
>> > >> [68277.078751]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
>> > >> [68277.078765]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
>> > >> [68277.078768]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
>> > >> [68277.078769]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
>> > >> [68277.078771]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
>> > >> [68277.078774]  [] ?
>> system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
>> > >> [68277.078778]  [] ?
>> __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
>> > >> [68277.078782]  [] ?
>> syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
>> > >> [68277.078784]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
>> > >> [68277.078786]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
>> > >> [68397.072384] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120
>> seconds.
>> > >> [68397.072413] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
>> > >> disables this message.
>> > >> [68397.072436] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1
>> 0x01a0
>> > >> [68397.072439] Call Trace:
>> > >> [68397.072453]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
>> > >> [68397.072458]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
>> > >> [68397.072462]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
>> > >> [68397.072467]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
>> > >> [68397.072480]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
>> > >>

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Also, if it helps, the hosts will sit there, quietly, for hours or
days before anything happens. They're up and working just fine. But
then, when I manually migrate a VM from one host to another, they
become completely inaccessible.

These are vanilla-as-possible CentOS7 nodes. Very basic ovirt install
and configuration.

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:33 AM Curtis E. Combs Jr.
 wrote:
>
> Hey Dominik,
>
> Thanks for helping. I really want to try to use ovirt.
>
> When these events happen, I cannot even SSH to the nodes due to the
> link being down. After a little while, the hosts come back...
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:
> >
> > Is you storage connected via NFS?
> > Can you manually access the storage on the host?
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:19 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Sorry to dead bump this, but I'm beginning to suspect that maybe it's
> >> not STP that's the problem.
> >>
> >> 2 of my hosts just went down when a few VMs tried to migrate.
> >>
> >> Do any of you have any idea what might be going on here? I don't even
> >> know where to start. I'm going to include the dmesg in case it helps.
> >> This happens on both of the hosts whenever any migration attempts to start.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> [68099.245833] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Down
> >> [68099.246055] internal: port 1(em1) entered disabled state
> >> [68184.177343] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Down
> >> [68184.177789] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered disabled state
> >> [68184.177856] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, propagating
> >> [68277.078671] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 seconds.
> >> [68277.078700] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
> >> disables this message.
> >> [68277.078723] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1 
> >> 0x01a0
> >> [68277.078727] Call Trace:
> >> [68277.078738]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
> >> [68277.078743]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
> >> [68277.078746]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
> >> [68277.078751]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
> >> [68277.078765]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
> >> [68277.078768]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
> >> [68277.078769]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
> >> [68277.078771]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
> >> [68277.078774]  [] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
> >> [68277.078778]  [] ? __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
> >> [68277.078782]  [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
> >> [68277.078784]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
> >> [68277.078786]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
> >> [68397.072384] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 seconds.
> >> [68397.072413] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
> >> disables this message.
> >> [68397.072436] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1 
> >> 0x01a0
> >> [68397.072439] Call Trace:
> >> [68397.072453]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
> >> [68397.072458]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
> >> [68397.072462]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
> >> [68397.072467]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
> >> [68397.072480]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
> >> [68397.072485]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
> >> [68397.072486]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
> >> [68397.072488]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
> >> [68397.072491]  [] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
> >> [68397.072495]  [] ? __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
> >> [68397.072498]  [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
> >> [68397.072500]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
> >> [68397.072502]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
> >> [68401.573141] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Up, 1000 Mbps
> >> full duplex
> >>
> >> [68401.573247] internal: port 1(em1) entered blocking state
> >> [68401.573255] internal: port 1(em1) entered listening state
> >> [68403.576985] internal: port 1(em1) entered learning state
> >> [68405.580907] internal: port 1(em1) entered forwarding state
> >> [68405.580916] internal: topology change detected, propagating
> >> [68469.565589] nfs: server swm-01.hpc.moffitt.org not responding, timed out
> >> [68469.565840] nfs: server swm-01.hpc.moffitt.org not responding, timed out
> >> [68487.193932] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Up 10 Gbps, Flow
> >> Contro

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Hey Dominik,

Thanks for helping. I really want to try to use ovirt.

When these events happen, I cannot even SSH to the nodes due to the
link being down. After a little while, the hosts come back...

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:30 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>
> Is you storage connected via NFS?
> Can you manually access the storage on the host?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 5:19 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry to dead bump this, but I'm beginning to suspect that maybe it's
>> not STP that's the problem.
>>
>> 2 of my hosts just went down when a few VMs tried to migrate.
>>
>> Do any of you have any idea what might be going on here? I don't even
>> know where to start. I'm going to include the dmesg in case it helps.
>> This happens on both of the hosts whenever any migration attempts to start.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [68099.245833] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Down
>> [68099.246055] internal: port 1(em1) entered disabled state
>> [68184.177343] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Down
>> [68184.177789] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered disabled state
>> [68184.177856] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, propagating
>> [68277.078671] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 seconds.
>> [68277.078700] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
>> disables this message.
>> [68277.078723] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1 
>> 0x01a0
>> [68277.078727] Call Trace:
>> [68277.078738]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
>> [68277.078743]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
>> [68277.078746]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
>> [68277.078751]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
>> [68277.078765]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
>> [68277.078768]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
>> [68277.078769]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
>> [68277.078771]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
>> [68277.078774]  [] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
>> [68277.078778]  [] ? __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
>> [68277.078782]  [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
>> [68277.078784]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
>> [68277.078786]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
>> [68397.072384] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 seconds.
>> [68397.072413] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
>> disables this message.
>> [68397.072436] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1 
>> 0x01a0
>> [68397.072439] Call Trace:
>> [68397.072453]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
>> [68397.072458]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
>> [68397.072462]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
>> [68397.072467]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
>> [68397.072480]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
>> [68397.072485]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
>> [68397.072486]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
>> [68397.072488]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
>> [68397.072491]  [] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
>> [68397.072495]  [] ? __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
>> [68397.072498]  [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
>> [68397.072500]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
>> [68397.072502]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
>> [68401.573141] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Up, 1000 Mbps
>> full duplex
>>
>> [68401.573247] internal: port 1(em1) entered blocking state
>> [68401.573255] internal: port 1(em1) entered listening state
>> [68403.576985] internal: port 1(em1) entered learning state
>> [68405.580907] internal: port 1(em1) entered forwarding state
>> [68405.580916] internal: topology change detected, propagating
>> [68469.565589] nfs: server swm-01.hpc.moffitt.org not responding, timed out
>> [68469.565840] nfs: server swm-01.hpc.moffitt.org not responding, timed out
>> [68487.193932] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Up 10 Gbps, Flow
>> Control: RX/TX
>> [68487.194105] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered blocking state
>> [68487.194114] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered listening state
>> [68489.196508] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered learning state
>> [68491.200400] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered forwarding state
>> [68491.200405] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, sending tcn bpdu
>> [68493.672423] NFS: nfs4_reclaim_open_state: Lock reclaim failed!
>> [68494.777996] NFSD: client 10.15.28.22 testing state ID with
>> incorrect client ID
>> [68494.778580] NFSD: client 10.15.28.22 testing state ID with
>> incorrect client ID
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 2:53 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Thanks, I'm just going to revert back to bridges.
>> >

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-23 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Sorry to dead bump this, but I'm beginning to suspect that maybe it's
not STP that's the problem.

2 of my hosts just went down when a few VMs tried to migrate.

Do any of you have any idea what might be going on here? I don't even
know where to start. I'm going to include the dmesg in case it helps.
This happens on both of the hosts whenever any migration attempts to start.









[68099.245833] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Down
[68099.246055] internal: port 1(em1) entered disabled state
[68184.177343] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Down
[68184.177789] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered disabled state
[68184.177856] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, propagating
[68277.078671] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[68277.078700] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
disables this message.
[68277.078723] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1 0x01a0
[68277.078727] Call Trace:
[68277.078738]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
[68277.078743]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
[68277.078746]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
[68277.078751]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
[68277.078765]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
[68277.078768]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
[68277.078769]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
[68277.078771]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
[68277.078774]  [] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
[68277.078778]  [] ? __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
[68277.078782]  [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
[68277.078784]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
[68277.078786]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
[68397.072384] INFO: task qemu-kvm: blocked for more than 120 seconds.
[68397.072413] "echo 0 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_timeout_secs"
disables this message.
[68397.072436] qemu-kvmD 9db40c359040 0    1 0x01a0
[68397.072439] Call Trace:
[68397.072453]  [] ? avc_has_perm_flags+0xdc/0x1c0
[68397.072458]  [] schedule+0x29/0x70
[68397.072462]  [] inode_dio_wait+0xd9/0x100
[68397.072467]  [] ? wake_bit_function+0x40/0x40
[68397.072480]  [] nfs_getattr+0x1b6/0x250 [nfs]
[68397.072485]  [] vfs_getattr+0x49/0x80
[68397.072486]  [] vfs_fstat+0x45/0x80
[68397.072488]  [] SYSC_newfstat+0x24/0x60
[68397.072491]  [] ? system_call_after_swapgs+0xae/0x146
[68397.072495]  [] ? __audit_syscall_entry+0xb4/0x110
[68397.072498]  [] ? syscall_trace_enter+0x16b/0x220
[68397.072500]  [] SyS_newfstat+0xe/0x10
[68397.072502]  [] tracesys+0xa3/0xc9
[68401.573141] bnx2 :01:00.0 em1: NIC Copper Link is Up, 1000 Mbps
full duplex

[68401.573247] internal: port 1(em1) entered blocking state
[68401.573255] internal: port 1(em1) entered listening state
[68403.576985] internal: port 1(em1) entered learning state
[68405.580907] internal: port 1(em1) entered forwarding state
[68405.580916] internal: topology change detected, propagating
[68469.565589] nfs: server swm-01.hpc.moffitt.org not responding, timed out
[68469.565840] nfs: server swm-01.hpc.moffitt.org not responding, timed out
[68487.193932] ixgbe :03:00.0 p1p1: NIC Link is Up 10 Gbps, Flow
Control: RX/TX
[68487.194105] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered blocking state
[68487.194114] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered listening state
[68489.196508] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered learning state
[68491.200400] ovirtmgmt: port 1(p1p1) entered forwarding state
[68491.200405] ovirtmgmt: topology change detected, sending tcn bpdu
[68493.672423] NFS: nfs4_reclaim_open_state: Lock reclaim failed!
[68494.777996] NFSD: client 10.15.28.22 testing state ID with
incorrect client ID
[68494.778580] NFSD: client 10.15.28.22 testing state ID with
incorrect client ID


On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 2:53 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  wrote:
>
> Thanks, I'm just going to revert back to bridges.
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:50 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:06 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Seems like the STP options are so common and necessary that it would
> >> be a priority over seldom-used bridge_opts. I know what STP is and I'm
> >> not even a networking guy - never even heard of half of the
> >> bridge_opts that have switches in the UI.
> >>
> >> Anyway. I wanted to try the openvswitches, so I reinstalled all of my
> >> nodes and used "openvswitch (Technology Preview)" as the engine-setup
> >> option for the first host. I made a new Cluster for my nodes, added
> >> them all to the new cluster, created a new "logical network" for the
> >> internal network and attached it to the internal network ports.
> >>
> >> Now, when I go to create a new VM, I don't even have either the
> >> ovirtmgmt switch OR the internal switch as an option. The drop-down is
> >> empy as if I don't have any vnic-profiles.
> >>
> >
> > openvswitch clusters are limited to o

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-22 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Thanks, I'm just going to revert back to bridges.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:50 AM Dominik Holler  wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 3:06 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  
> wrote:
>>
>> Seems like the STP options are so common and necessary that it would
>> be a priority over seldom-used bridge_opts. I know what STP is and I'm
>> not even a networking guy - never even heard of half of the
>> bridge_opts that have switches in the UI.
>>
>> Anyway. I wanted to try the openvswitches, so I reinstalled all of my
>> nodes and used "openvswitch (Technology Preview)" as the engine-setup
>> option for the first host. I made a new Cluster for my nodes, added
>> them all to the new cluster, created a new "logical network" for the
>> internal network and attached it to the internal network ports.
>>
>> Now, when I go to create a new VM, I don't even have either the
>> ovirtmgmt switch OR the internal switch as an option. The drop-down is
>> empy as if I don't have any vnic-profiles.
>>
>
> openvswitch clusters are limited to ovn networks.
> You can create one like described in
> https://www.ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/chap-External_Providers.html#connecting-an-ovn-network-to-a-physical-network
>
>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 7:34 AM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi Dominik, would you mind sharing the use case for stp via API Only? I am 
>> > keen to know this.
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu., 22 Aug. 2019, 19:24 Dominik Holler,  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Miguel Duarte de Mora Barroso 
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:27 AM  wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Hello. I have been trying to figure out an issue for a very long time.
>> >>> > That issue relates to the ethernet and 10gb fc links that I have on my
>> >>> > cluster being disabled any time a migration occurs.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I believe this is because I need to have STP turned on in order to
>> >>> > participate with the switch. However, there does not seem to be any
>> >>> > way to tell oVirt to stop turning it off! Very frustrating.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > After entering a cronjob that enables stp on all bridges every 1
>> >>> > minute, the migration issue disappears
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Is there any way at all to do without this cronjob and set STP to be
>> >>> > ON without having to resort to such a silly solution?
>> >>>
>> >>> Vdsm exposes a per bridge STP knob that you can use for this. By
>> >>> default it is set to false, which is probably why you had to use this
>> >>> shenanigan.
>> >>>
>> >>> You can, for instance:
>> >>>
>> >>> # show present state
>> >>> [vagrant@vdsm ~]$ ip a
>> >>> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>> >>> group default qlen 1000
>> >>> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>> >>> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>> >>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> >>> 2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>> >>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>> >>> link/ether 52:54:00:41:fb:37 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>> >>> 3: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>> >>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>> >>> link/ether 52:54:00:83:5b:6f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>> >>> inet 192.168.50.50/24 brd 192.168.50.255 scope global noprefixroute 
>> >>> eth1
>> >>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> >>> inet6 fe80::5054:ff:fe83:5b6f/64 scope link
>> >>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>> >>> 19: ;vdsmdummy;:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
>> >>> group default qlen 1000
>> >>> link/ether 8e:5c:2e:87:fa:0b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>> >>>
>> >>> # show example bridge configuration - you're looking for the STP knob 
>> >>> here.
>> >>> [root@vdsm ~]$ cat bridged_net_with_stp
>> >>> {
>> >>>   "bondings": {},
>> >>>   "networks": {
>> >>> "test-network": {
>> >>>   "nic": "e

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-22 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Seems like the STP options are so common and necessary that it would
be a priority over seldom-used bridge_opts. I know what STP is and I'm
not even a networking guy - never even heard of half of the
bridge_opts that have switches in the UI.

Anyway. I wanted to try the openvswitches, so I reinstalled all of my
nodes and used "openvswitch (Technology Preview)" as the engine-setup
option for the first host. I made a new Cluster for my nodes, added
them all to the new cluster, created a new "logical network" for the
internal network and attached it to the internal network ports.

Now, when I go to create a new VM, I don't even have either the
ovirtmgmt switch OR the internal switch as an option. The drop-down is
empy as if I don't have any vnic-profiles.

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 7:34 AM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>
> Hi Dominik, would you mind sharing the use case for stp via API Only? I am 
> keen to know this.
> Thanks
>
>
> On Thu., 22 Aug. 2019, 19:24 Dominik Holler,  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Miguel Duarte de Mora Barroso 
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:27 AM  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello. I have been trying to figure out an issue for a very long time.
>>> > That issue relates to the ethernet and 10gb fc links that I have on my
>>> > cluster being disabled any time a migration occurs.
>>> >
>>> > I believe this is because I need to have STP turned on in order to
>>> > participate with the switch. However, there does not seem to be any
>>> > way to tell oVirt to stop turning it off! Very frustrating.
>>> >
>>> > After entering a cronjob that enables stp on all bridges every 1
>>> > minute, the migration issue disappears
>>> >
>>> > Is there any way at all to do without this cronjob and set STP to be
>>> > ON without having to resort to such a silly solution?
>>>
>>> Vdsm exposes a per bridge STP knob that you can use for this. By
>>> default it is set to false, which is probably why you had to use this
>>> shenanigan.
>>>
>>> You can, for instance:
>>>
>>> # show present state
>>> [vagrant@vdsm ~]$ ip a
>>> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>>> group default qlen 1000
>>> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>>> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> 2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 52:54:00:41:fb:37 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>> 3: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 52:54:00:83:5b:6f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>> inet 192.168.50.50/24 brd 192.168.50.255 scope global noprefixroute eth1
>>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> inet6 fe80::5054:ff:fe83:5b6f/64 scope link
>>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> 19: ;vdsmdummy;:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
>>> group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 8e:5c:2e:87:fa:0b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>>
>>> # show example bridge configuration - you're looking for the STP knob here.
>>> [root@vdsm ~]$ cat bridged_net_with_stp
>>> {
>>>   "bondings": {},
>>>   "networks": {
>>> "test-network": {
>>>   "nic": "eth0",
>>>   "switch": "legacy",
>>>   "bridged": true,
>>>   "stp": true
>>> }
>>>   },
>>>   "options": {
>>> "connectivityCheck": false
>>>   }
>>> }
>>>
>>> # issue setup networks command:
>>> [root@vdsm ~]$ vdsm-client -f bridged_net_with_stp Host setupNetworks
>>> {
>>> "code": 0,
>>> "message": "Done"
>>> }
>>>
>>> # show bridges
>>> [root@vdsm ~]$ brctl show
>>> bridge name bridge id STP enabled interfaces
>>> ;vdsmdummy; 8000. no
>>> test-network 8000.52540041fb37 yes eth0
>>>
>>> # show final state
>>> [root@vdsm ~]$ ip a
>>> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
>>> group default qlen 1000
>>> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
>>> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> 2: eth0:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>> master test-network state UP group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 52:54:00:41:fb:37 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>> 3: eth1:  mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast
>>> state UP group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 52:54:00:83:5b:6f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>> inet 192.168.50.50/24 brd 192.168.50.255 scope global noprefixroute eth1
>>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> inet6 fe80::5054:ff:fe83:5b6f/64 scope link
>>>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
>>> 19: ;vdsmdummy;:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
>>> group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 8e:5c:2e:87:fa:0b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>> 432: test-network:  mtu 1500 qdisc
>>> noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000
>>> link/ether 52:54:00:41:fb:37 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>>
>>> I don't think this STP parameter is exposed via engine UI; @Dominik
>>> Holler , could you confirm ? What are our plans for it ?
>>>
>>
>> STP is only available via REST-API, see
>> 

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-20 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
I can see, just through a series of searches, that you can configure ovirt
to use a variety of things. I've configured many VMWare clusters before, so
having a (Cisco calls them) trunked port or (what other people call them)
ports in "tagged mode" would be nice, but like I was saying: I can't even
speak directly to the co-lo people, much less ask them to set a port to
access multiple VLANs.

So, going at this just by trying to follow the docs, I simply add a
"network" in the GUI and stick the port on it in "Setup Host Networks". On
each host, I named the "network" the same so that it satisfies the
requirement for Live Migration. So, 3 hosts, 2 networks per-host. Network 1
is named "ovirtmgmt", the other is named "int-1gb-10.15.11". I thought that
this was required because a VM must attach to the same networks if it is to
migrate because of load balancing, failover or just to migrate. So, two
links, two networks - VMs can use the switch to access the local network
and the wider network with the same configuration.

As you can imagine, having the ports become un-linked without STP and
having them work properly with it, seemed to indicate that STP was the
issue. If STP is not the true culprit, then I really don't know what else
it can be...but in either case, it seems like there really should be an
option in the interface to enable or disable it, considering the bridge
utilities literally have it as a first-level option and it's probably one
of the more common networking configurations

Again, if there's some other way to do this, please, please do let me know.

Thanks again, Tony!
cecjr

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:51 AM Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
wrote:

> Oh, I'm just using the standard Linux bridges. I believe in ovirt
> nomenclature they're called "legacy bridges". This is not by any real
> choice but just what is created by default, I believe. In the first link
> you sent, they are calling them "Linux legacy networking model" - though I
> only have 2 options when I make a new switch - the default and (it says)
> "openvswitch (experimental)"
>
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:47 AM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>
>> No - no recommendations from me to use either. I took it that you were
>> using ovs bridge as I was not aware of another bridge. The only other
>> option I was aware of if what I am using, vlan interfaces and kernel vlan
>> tags. If you could share a link to what you're using, I would be keen to
>> read up on it to know more.
>>
>> *Tony Pearce*
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 16:27, Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> Well, thank you for that, but I'm not using openvswitchs, I'm just using
>>> regular bridges. Are you suggesting that I do?
>>>
>>> From what I can see in the interface they have "(experimental)" marked
>>> on them and we'd like to see production with this at some point.
>>>
>>> None of my ports are trunking between VLANs - they only have one in
>>> untagged mode - and there's only 2 VLANs here, one per-port.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>> cecjr
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:36 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>>>
>>>> A couple of links I found helpful, thought I'd send them over
>>>> http://therandomsecurityguy.com/openvswitch-cheat-sheet/
>>>>
>>>> https://ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/openvswitch/native-openvswitch.html
>>>>
>>>> With STP off, if the network is detecting a loop then it will have to
>>>> block a link. With STP on I guess it's allowing the network to remain
>>>> forwarding and the blocking to occur elsewhere. 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Tony Pearce
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 10:12, Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Cool, I can capture some packets tomorrow when I'm in the office and
>>>> > see how that compares...
>>>> >
>>>> > But, yea, it's a hassle to get them to respond IF they do, so the only
>>>> > real options I'm going to have are what I can do with my servers from
>>>> the OS. No
>>>> > physical access. No nice DC guy to help me out.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tony Pearce 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > :) They might be using Cisco's per-vlan spanning tree on the network
>>>> > > side. It is possible to capture the packets coming in from the
>>>&g

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-20 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Oh, I'm just using the standard Linux bridges. I believe in ovirt
nomenclature they're called "legacy bridges". This is not by any real
choice but just what is created by default, I believe. In the first link
you sent, they are calling them "Linux legacy networking model" - though I
only have 2 options when I make a new switch - the default and (it says)
"openvswitch (experimental)"

On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:47 AM Tony Pearce  wrote:

> No - no recommendations from me to use either. I took it that you were
> using ovs bridge as I was not aware of another bridge. The only other
> option I was aware of if what I am using, vlan interfaces and kernel vlan
> tags. If you could share a link to what you're using, I would be keen to
> read up on it to know more.
>
> *Tony Pearce*
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 16:27, Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
> wrote:
>
>> Tony,
>>
>> Well, thank you for that, but I'm not using openvswitchs, I'm just using
>> regular bridges. Are you suggesting that I do?
>>
>> From what I can see in the interface they have "(experimental)" marked on
>> them and we'd like to see production with this at some point.
>>
>> None of my ports are trunking between VLANs - they only have one in
>> untagged mode - and there's only 2 VLANs here, one per-port.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>> cecjr
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:36 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>>
>>> A couple of links I found helpful, thought I'd send them over
>>> http://therandomsecurityguy.com/openvswitch-cheat-sheet/
>>>
>>> https://ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/openvswitch/native-openvswitch.html
>>>
>>> With STP off, if the network is detecting a loop then it will have to
>>> block a link. With STP on I guess it's allowing the network to remain
>>> forwarding and the blocking to occur elsewhere. 
>>>
>>>
>>> Tony Pearce
>>>
>>> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 10:12, Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Cool, I can capture some packets tomorrow when I'm in the office and
>>> > see how that compares...
>>> >
>>> > But, yea, it's a hassle to get them to respond IF they do, so the only
>>> > real options I'm going to have are what I can do with my servers from
>>> the OS. No
>>> > physical access. No nice DC guy to help me out.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tony Pearce 
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > :) They might be using Cisco's per-vlan spanning tree on the network
>>> > > side. It is possible to capture the packets coming in from the
>>> network
>>> > > and confirm that.
>>> > >
>>> > > Attached screenshot of wireshark for you for reference.
>>> > >
>>> > > Glad you're all working :)
>>> > >
>>> > > Regards
>>> > >
>>> > > Tony Pearce
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 09:52, Curtis E. Combs Jr. <
>>> ej.alb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Hey Tony!
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I only know the basics of Spanning Tree. At the current moment the
>>> > > > only way to get migrations to work at all without breaking the
>>> whole
>>> > > > oVirt cluster is to have it on. After changing it according to
>>> Paul's
>>> > > > instruction, it works like it has never worked before. Every
>>> migration
>>> > > > event was successful. Whereas before and even at times with the
>>> > > > cronjob (when vdsm set STP to off between cron runs) the link would
>>> > > > drop out and oVirt would say that the host was "unresponsive".
>>> > > >
>>> > > > It would be too - it wouldn't respond to SSH, ping, arp
>>> > > > requests...nothing. I never got a good idea of how long this would
>>> be
>>> > > > for, but it would, eventually go away and the link would come back
>>> > > > online.
>>> > > >
>>> > > > I have no access to the hardware. From using tcpdump to get some
>>> CDP
>>> > > > packets, I do know that it's Cisco switches but the IT team here is
>>> > > > completely unresponsive (they literally ig

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-20 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Tony,

Well, thank you for that, but I'm not using openvswitchs, I'm just using
regular bridges. Are you suggesting that I do?

>From what I can see in the interface they have "(experimental)" marked on
them and we'd like to see production with this at some point.

None of my ports are trunking between VLANs - they only have one in
untagged mode - and there's only 2 VLANs here, one per-port.

Thanks again!
cecjr



On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:36 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:

> A couple of links I found helpful, thought I'd send them over
> http://therandomsecurityguy.com/openvswitch-cheat-sheet/
>
> https://ovirt.org/develop/release-management/features/network/openvswitch/native-openvswitch.html
>
> With STP off, if the network is detecting a loop then it will have to
> block a link. With STP on I guess it's allowing the network to remain
> forwarding and the blocking to occur elsewhere. 
>
>
> Tony Pearce
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 10:12, Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
> wrote:
> >
> > Cool, I can capture some packets tomorrow when I'm in the office and
> > see how that compares...
> >
> > But, yea, it's a hassle to get them to respond IF they do, so the only
> > real options I'm going to have are what I can do with my servers from
> the OS. No
> > physical access. No nice DC guy to help me out.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
> > >
> > > :) They might be using Cisco's per-vlan spanning tree on the network
> > > side. It is possible to capture the packets coming in from the network
> > > and confirm that.
> > >
> > > Attached screenshot of wireshark for you for reference.
> > >
> > > Glad you're all working :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Tony Pearce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 09:52, Curtis E. Combs Jr. 
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Tony!
> > > >
> > > > I only know the basics of Spanning Tree. At the current moment the
> > > > only way to get migrations to work at all without breaking the whole
> > > > oVirt cluster is to have it on. After changing it according to Paul's
> > > > instruction, it works like it has never worked before. Every
> migration
> > > > event was successful. Whereas before and even at times with the
> > > > cronjob (when vdsm set STP to off between cron runs) the link would
> > > > drop out and oVirt would say that the host was "unresponsive".
> > > >
> > > > It would be too - it wouldn't respond to SSH, ping, arp
> > > > requests...nothing. I never got a good idea of how long this would be
> > > > for, but it would, eventually go away and the link would come back
> > > > online.
> > > >
> > > > I have no access to the hardware. From using tcpdump to get some CDP
> > > > packets, I do know that it's Cisco switches but the IT team here is
> > > > completely unresponsive (they literally ignore our tickets) and the
> > > > co-lo where our servers are hosted won't even pick up the phone for
> > > > anyone but them
> > > >
> > > > Unfortunately, this is what I'm going to have to do. The cluster is
> > > > very functional, though. I created around 15 VMs today and
> > > > migrated them from host to host without any problem.
> > > >
> > > > Anything else you'd like me to try? This is currently dev, so I can
> > > > really do anything I want and I can just IPMI reboot the nodes if it
> > > > causes issues...
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > cecjr
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tony Pearce 
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > e.albany,
> > > > >
> > > > > STP is meant to block loops in layer 2. In basic operation, a root
> > > > > bridge is elected which is the root of the tree. This bridge sends,
> > > > > essentially 'hello' messages as multicast packets. The switches
> then
> > > > > detect the loop in the network and block one of the links to
> prevent
> > > > > such things as a broadcast storm.
> > > > >
> > > > > There are different flavours of STP but "STP" usually means the
> hellos
> > > > > are sent over VLAN 1 (or no vlan). Therefore if you have multiple
> > > > > VLANs on links, the hellos are still only sent over VLAN

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-19 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Cool, I can capture some packets tomorrow when I'm in the office and
see how that compares...

But, yea, it's a hassle to get them to respond IF they do, so the only
real options I'm going to have are what I can do with my servers from the OS. No
physical access. No nice DC guy to help me out.


On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:06 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>
> :) They might be using Cisco's per-vlan spanning tree on the network
> side. It is possible to capture the packets coming in from the network
> and confirm that.
>
> Attached screenshot of wireshark for you for reference.
>
> Glad you're all working :)
>
> Regards
>
> Tony Pearce
>
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 09:52, Curtis E. Combs Jr.  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Tony!
> >
> > I only know the basics of Spanning Tree. At the current moment the
> > only way to get migrations to work at all without breaking the whole
> > oVirt cluster is to have it on. After changing it according to Paul's
> > instruction, it works like it has never worked before. Every migration
> > event was successful. Whereas before and even at times with the
> > cronjob (when vdsm set STP to off between cron runs) the link would
> > drop out and oVirt would say that the host was "unresponsive".
> >
> > It would be too - it wouldn't respond to SSH, ping, arp
> > requests...nothing. I never got a good idea of how long this would be
> > for, but it would, eventually go away and the link would come back
> > online.
> >
> > I have no access to the hardware. From using tcpdump to get some CDP
> > packets, I do know that it's Cisco switches but the IT team here is
> > completely unresponsive (they literally ignore our tickets) and the
> > co-lo where our servers are hosted won't even pick up the phone for
> > anyone but them
> >
> > Unfortunately, this is what I'm going to have to do. The cluster is
> > very functional, though. I created around 15 VMs today and
> > migrated them from host to host without any problem.
> >
> > Anything else you'd like me to try? This is currently dev, so I can
> > really do anything I want and I can just IPMI reboot the nodes if it
> > causes issues...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > cecjr
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
> > >
> > > e.albany,
> > >
> > > STP is meant to block loops in layer 2. In basic operation, a root
> > > bridge is elected which is the root of the tree. This bridge sends,
> > > essentially 'hello' messages as multicast packets. The switches then
> > > detect the loop in the network and block one of the links to prevent
> > > such things as a broadcast storm.
> > >
> > > There are different flavours of STP but "STP" usually means the hellos
> > > are sent over VLAN 1 (or no vlan). Therefore if you have multiple
> > > VLANs on links, the hellos are still only sent over VLAN 1 and all
> > > VLANs are dealt with that way. Meaning if a link is blocked then all
> > > VLANs are blocked on that link,
> > >
> > > Then came the different flavours, one of which is per-vlan STP. This
> > > allows individual VLANs to be blocked and gives more flexibility.
> > >
> > > After STP has dealt with the blocking, this link blocking will
> > > continue until a change in the network is detected. This is detected
> > > by the absence of the STP packets or the presence of new STP packets
> > > where there shouldnt be. When this happens, STP packets are flooded
> > > everywhere to discover the new network topology. Ultimately, the loop
> > > will be blocked again.
> > >
> > > I think that you have two STP versions running in your network and
> > > it's causing the issue. An easy test would be to remove the loop
> > > manually in the network and leave STP off on the ovirt host. You can
> > > view the topology as-per the network STP devices by obtaining info
> > > from the devices such as bridge priorities etc. What is your network
> > > hardware?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 08:22, Staniforth, Paul
> > >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I haven't used FC with oVirt but in the following it shows the bridge 
> > > > options available and how to enable Ethtool and FCoE.
> > > >
> > > > https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/appe-Custom_Network_Properties.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
>

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-19 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
If there is some other configuration that I'm not seeing, please do
let me know. I'd love to know more about what the expected
configuration is that enables VM migration and how it's "supposed" to
be configured. I have 3 hosts - each of these has two bridges. Each of
these bridges are named the same for each host. Each bridge has a
different IP address that corresponds to the NIC attached to the host
on that network. It seemed like the only and obvious choice...

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:52 PM Curtis E. Combs Jr.  wrote:
>
> Hey Tony!
>
> I only know the basics of Spanning Tree. At the current moment the
> only way to get migrations to work at all without breaking the whole
> oVirt cluster is to have it on. After changing it according to Paul's
> instruction, it works like it has never worked before. Every migration
> event was successful. Whereas before and even at times with the
> cronjob (when vdsm set STP to off between cron runs) the link would
> drop out and oVirt would say that the host was "unresponsive".
>
> It would be too - it wouldn't respond to SSH, ping, arp
> requests...nothing. I never got a good idea of how long this would be
> for, but it would, eventually go away and the link would come back
> online.
>
> I have no access to the hardware. From using tcpdump to get some CDP
> packets, I do know that it's Cisco switches but the IT team here is
> completely unresponsive (they literally ignore our tickets) and the
> co-lo where our servers are hosted won't even pick up the phone for
> anyone but them
>
> Unfortunately, this is what I'm going to have to do. The cluster is
> very functional, though. I created around 15 VMs today and
> migrated them from host to host without any problem.
>
> Anything else you'd like me to try? This is currently dev, so I can
> really do anything I want and I can just IPMI reboot the nodes if it
> causes issues...
>
> Thanks!
> cecjr
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
> >
> > e.albany,
> >
> > STP is meant to block loops in layer 2. In basic operation, a root
> > bridge is elected which is the root of the tree. This bridge sends,
> > essentially 'hello' messages as multicast packets. The switches then
> > detect the loop in the network and block one of the links to prevent
> > such things as a broadcast storm.
> >
> > There are different flavours of STP but "STP" usually means the hellos
> > are sent over VLAN 1 (or no vlan). Therefore if you have multiple
> > VLANs on links, the hellos are still only sent over VLAN 1 and all
> > VLANs are dealt with that way. Meaning if a link is blocked then all
> > VLANs are blocked on that link,
> >
> > Then came the different flavours, one of which is per-vlan STP. This
> > allows individual VLANs to be blocked and gives more flexibility.
> >
> > After STP has dealt with the blocking, this link blocking will
> > continue until a change in the network is detected. This is detected
> > by the absence of the STP packets or the presence of new STP packets
> > where there shouldnt be. When this happens, STP packets are flooded
> > everywhere to discover the new network topology. Ultimately, the loop
> > will be blocked again.
> >
> > I think that you have two STP versions running in your network and
> > it's causing the issue. An easy test would be to remove the loop
> > manually in the network and leave STP off on the ovirt host. You can
> > view the topology as-per the network STP devices by obtaining info
> > from the devices such as bridge priorities etc. What is your network
> > hardware?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 08:22, Staniforth, Paul
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > I haven't used FC with oVirt but in the following it shows the bridge 
> > > options available and how to enable Ethtool and FCoE.
> > >
> > > https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/appe-Custom_Network_Properties.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >  Paul S.
> > >
> > > 
> > > From: ej.alb...@gmail.com 
> > > Sent: 17 August 2019 10:25
> > > To: users@ovirt.org
> > > Subject: [ovirt-users] Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges
> > >
> > > Hello. I have been trying to figure out an issue for a very long time.
> > > That issue relates to the ethernet and 10gb fc links that I have on my
> > > cluster being disabled any time a migration occurs.
> > >
> > > I believe this is bec

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-19 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Hey Tony!

I only know the basics of Spanning Tree. At the current moment the
only way to get migrations to work at all without breaking the whole
oVirt cluster is to have it on. After changing it according to Paul's
instruction, it works like it has never worked before. Every migration
event was successful. Whereas before and even at times with the
cronjob (when vdsm set STP to off between cron runs) the link would
drop out and oVirt would say that the host was "unresponsive".

It would be too - it wouldn't respond to SSH, ping, arp
requests...nothing. I never got a good idea of how long this would be
for, but it would, eventually go away and the link would come back
online.

I have no access to the hardware. From using tcpdump to get some CDP
packets, I do know that it's Cisco switches but the IT team here is
completely unresponsive (they literally ignore our tickets) and the
co-lo where our servers are hosted won't even pick up the phone for
anyone but them

Unfortunately, this is what I'm going to have to do. The cluster is
very functional, though. I created around 15 VMs today and
migrated them from host to host without any problem.

Anything else you'd like me to try? This is currently dev, so I can
really do anything I want and I can just IPMI reboot the nodes if it
causes issues...

Thanks!
cecjr


On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 9:37 PM Tony Pearce  wrote:
>
> e.albany,
>
> STP is meant to block loops in layer 2. In basic operation, a root
> bridge is elected which is the root of the tree. This bridge sends,
> essentially 'hello' messages as multicast packets. The switches then
> detect the loop in the network and block one of the links to prevent
> such things as a broadcast storm.
>
> There are different flavours of STP but "STP" usually means the hellos
> are sent over VLAN 1 (or no vlan). Therefore if you have multiple
> VLANs on links, the hellos are still only sent over VLAN 1 and all
> VLANs are dealt with that way. Meaning if a link is blocked then all
> VLANs are blocked on that link,
>
> Then came the different flavours, one of which is per-vlan STP. This
> allows individual VLANs to be blocked and gives more flexibility.
>
> After STP has dealt with the blocking, this link blocking will
> continue until a change in the network is detected. This is detected
> by the absence of the STP packets or the presence of new STP packets
> where there shouldnt be. When this happens, STP packets are flooded
> everywhere to discover the new network topology. Ultimately, the loop
> will be blocked again.
>
> I think that you have two STP versions running in your network and
> it's causing the issue. An easy test would be to remove the loop
> manually in the network and leave STP off on the ovirt host. You can
> view the topology as-per the network STP devices by obtaining info
> from the devices such as bridge priorities etc. What is your network
> hardware?
>
> Regards,
>
> Tony
>
>
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 08:22, Staniforth, Paul
>  wrote:
> >
> > I haven't used FC with oVirt but in the following it shows the bridge 
> > options available and how to enable Ethtool and FCoE.
> >
> > https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/appe-Custom_Network_Properties.html
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >  Paul S.
> >
> > 
> > From: ej.alb...@gmail.com 
> > Sent: 17 August 2019 10:25
> > To: users@ovirt.org
> > Subject: [ovirt-users] Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges
> >
> > Hello. I have been trying to figure out an issue for a very long time.
> > That issue relates to the ethernet and 10gb fc links that I have on my
> > cluster being disabled any time a migration occurs.
> >
> > I believe this is because I need to have STP turned on in order to
> > participate with the switch. However, there does not seem to be any
> > way to tell oVirt to stop turning it off! Very frustrating.
> >
> > After entering a cronjob that enables stp on all bridges every 1
> > minute, the migration issue disappears
> >
> > Is there any way at all to do without this cronjob and set STP to be
> > ON without having to resort to such a silly solution?
> >
> > Here are some details about my systems, if you need it.
> >
> >
> > selinux is disabled.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [root@swm-02 ~]# rpm -qa | grep ovirt
> > ovirt-imageio-common-1.5.1-0.el7.x86_64
> > ovirt-release43-4.3.5.2-1.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-imageio-daemon-1.5.1-0.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-vmconsole-host-1.0.7-2.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-hosted-engine-setup-2.3.11-1.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup-1.0.26-1.el7.noarch
> > python2-ovirt-host-deploy-1.8.0-1.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-ansible-engine-setup-1.1.9-1.el7.noarch
> > python2-ovirt-setup-lib-1.2.0-1.el7.noarch
> > cockpit-machines-ovirt-195.1-1.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-hosted-engine-ha-2.3.3-1.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-vmconsole-1.0.7-2.el7.noarch
> > cockpit-ovirt-dashboard-0.13.5-1.el7.noarch
> > ovirt-provider-ovn-driver-1.2.22-1.el7.noarch
> > 

[ovirt-users] Re: Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges

2019-08-19 Thread Curtis E. Combs Jr.
Hi Paul,

Thank you very much for the response. However, I have tried those
options. Adding "stp=on" does not enable STP on the bridges. Each node
has a 1Gb Ethernet connection as well as a 10Gb FC connection, I've
tried moving the VM migration network to each and the effect is the
same.

The vdsm disables STP when it writes the ifcfg-em0 or ifcfg-p1p1 files
in /etc/sysconfig/networking-scripts.

This behavior can been seen when using the standard "brctl show"
utilities directly logged into the host. Can the templates that the
VDSM uses to write those files be modified, possibly?

Thank you!

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 6:26 AM Staniforth, Paul
 wrote:
>
> I haven't used FC with oVirt but in the following it shows the bridge options 
> available and how to enable Ethtool and FCoE.
>
> https://ovirt.org/documentation/admin-guide/appe-Custom_Network_Properties.html
>
>
> Regards,
>  Paul S.
>
> 
> From: ej.alb...@gmail.com 
> Sent: 17 August 2019 10:25
> To: users@ovirt.org
> Subject: [ovirt-users] Need to enable STP on ovirt bridges
>
> Hello. I have been trying to figure out an issue for a very long time.
> That issue relates to the ethernet and 10gb fc links that I have on my
> cluster being disabled any time a migration occurs.
>
> I believe this is because I need to have STP turned on in order to
> participate with the switch. However, there does not seem to be any
> way to tell oVirt to stop turning it off! Very frustrating.
>
> After entering a cronjob that enables stp on all bridges every 1
> minute, the migration issue disappears
>
> Is there any way at all to do without this cronjob and set STP to be
> ON without having to resort to such a silly solution?
>
> Here are some details about my systems, if you need it.
>
>
> selinux is disabled.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [root@swm-02 ~]# rpm -qa | grep ovirt
> ovirt-imageio-common-1.5.1-0.el7.x86_64
> ovirt-release43-4.3.5.2-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-imageio-daemon-1.5.1-0.el7.noarch
> ovirt-vmconsole-host-1.0.7-2.el7.noarch
> ovirt-hosted-engine-setup-2.3.11-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-ansible-hosted-engine-setup-1.0.26-1.el7.noarch
> python2-ovirt-host-deploy-1.8.0-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-ansible-engine-setup-1.1.9-1.el7.noarch
> python2-ovirt-setup-lib-1.2.0-1.el7.noarch
> cockpit-machines-ovirt-195.1-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-hosted-engine-ha-2.3.3-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-vmconsole-1.0.7-2.el7.noarch
> cockpit-ovirt-dashboard-0.13.5-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-provider-ovn-driver-1.2.22-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-host-deploy-common-1.8.0-1.el7.noarch
> ovirt-host-4.3.4-1.el7.x86_64
> python-ovirt-engine-sdk4-4.3.2-2.el7.x86_64
> ovirt-host-dependencies-4.3.4-1.el7.x86_64
> ovirt-ansible-repositories-1.1.5-1.el7.noarch
> [root@swm-02 ~]# cat /etc/redhat-release
> CentOS Linux release 7.6.1810 (Core)
> [root@swm-02 ~]# uname -r
> 3.10.0-957.27.2.el7.x86_64
> You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/root
> [root@swm-02 ~]# ip a
> 1: lo:  mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
> group default qlen 1000
> link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
> inet 127.0.0.1/8 scope host lo
>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 2: em1:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq master
> test state UP group default qlen 1000
> link/ether d4:ae:52:8d:50:48 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 3: em2:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group
> default qlen 1000
> link/ether d4:ae:52:8d:50:49 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 4: p1p1:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq master
> ovirtmgmt state UP group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 90:e2:ba:1e:14:80 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 5: p1p2:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group
> default qlen 1000
> link/ether 90:e2:ba:1e:14:81 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 6: ovs-system:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
> group default qlen 1000
> link/ether a2:b8:d6:e8:b3:d8 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 7: br-int:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN group
> default qlen 1000
> link/ether 96:a0:c1:4a:45:4b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 25: test:  mtu 1500 qdisc noqueue
> state UP group default qlen 1000
> link/ether d4:ae:52:8d:50:48 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> inet 10.15.11.21/24 brd 10.15.11.255 scope global test
>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 26: ovirtmgmt:  mtu 1500 qdisc
> noqueue state UP group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 90:e2:ba:1e:14:80 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> inet 10.15.28.31/24 brd 10.15.28.255 scope global ovirtmgmt
>valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
> 27: ;vdsmdummy;:  mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN
> group default qlen 1000
> link/ether 62:e5:e5:07:99:eb brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> 29: vnet0:  mtu 1500 qdisc mq master
> ovirtmgmt state UNKNOWN group default qlen 1000
> link/ether fe:6f:9c:95:00:02 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
> [root@swm-02 ~]# free -m
>   totalusedfree  shared  buff/cache   
> available
> Mem:  644131873   61804   9 735   
> 62062
> Swap: 16383   0   16383
> [root@swm-02 ~]# free -h
>