Re: [Users] Hot Snapshotting of virtual disks

2012-10-18 Thread Jason Lawer
Hi Shu,

Sorry I didn't go into more detail, yes I intend to copy the snapshot to a 
different medium (potentially to a DR site, at the very least to an independent 
NAS). The snapshot is just so I can grab a consistent copy of the disk (even 
though I understand it risks filesystem corruption due to incomplete writes) If 
oVirt now supports hot snapshots it in 3.1 we will look into this. 

Jason




On 18/10/2012, at 3:29 PM, Shu Ming shum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:

 Basically, backup is different from snapshotting. Backup should have another 
 storage different from the current share storage to store the disk content. 
 oVirt 3.1 does have support for live snapshot of the VM disks and Qemu 1.1 is 
 required at least to support this operation. In oVirt 3.1, you can also 
 create an backup domain to store the VM disks, but I think it is not the real 
 backup to another physical storage. So you may have to copy the snapshot made 
 to other physical storage manually .
 
 2012-10-18 9:20, Jason Lawer:
 Hi,
 
 Can anyone give advice on what they are using for backup on their ovirt 
 deployments. We have been using tar balls  rsync on our linux servers, but 
 are looking for something more manageable and the number of servers grows 
 rapidly.
 
 I ask because I have been looking at a few options. The first idea that came 
 to mind was a hot snapshot of the virtual disk, however from what I can see 
 ovirt won't allow that. Most of the others have serious drawbacks, so I 
 wanted to know if anyone had a silver bullet before I put more time into it.
 
 
 Jason
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Re: [Users] Hot Snapshotting of virtual disks

2012-10-18 Thread Itamar Heim

On 10/18/2012 08:00 AM, Jason Lawer wrote:

Hi Shu,

Sorry I didn't go into more detail, yes I intend to copy the snapshot to a 
different medium (potentially to a DR site, at the very least to an independent 
NAS). The snapshot is just so I can grab a consistent copy of the disk (even 
though I understand it risks filesystem corruption due to incomplete writes) If 
oVirt now supports hot snapshots it in 3.1 we will look into this.


yes, live snapshots are part of 3.1



Jason




On 18/10/2012, at 3:29 PM, Shu Ming shum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com wrote:


Basically, backup is different from snapshotting. Backup should have another 
storage different from the current share storage to store the disk content. 
oVirt 3.1 does have support for live snapshot of the VM disks and Qemu 1.1 is 
required at least to support this operation. In oVirt 3.1, you can also create 
an backup domain to store the VM disks, but I think it is not the real backup 
to another physical storage. So you may have to copy the snapshot made to other 
physical storage manually .

2012-10-18 9:20, Jason Lawer:

Hi,

Can anyone give advice on what they are using for backup on their ovirt 
deployments. We have been using tar balls  rsync on our linux servers, but are 
looking for something more manageable and the number of servers grows rapidly.

I ask because I have been looking at a few options. The first idea that came to 
mind was a hot snapshot of the virtual disk, however from what I can see ovirt 
won't allow that. Most of the others have serious drawbacks, so I wanted to 
know if anyone had a silver bullet before I put more time into it.


Jason
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Re: [Users] Hot Snapshotting of virtual disks

2012-10-17 Thread Shu Ming
Basically, backup is different from snapshotting. Backup should have 
another storage different from the current share storage to store the 
disk content. oVirt 3.1 does have support for live snapshot of the VM 
disks and Qemu 1.1 is required at least to support this operation. In 
oVirt 3.1, you can also create an backup domain to store the VM disks, 
but I think it is not the real backup to another physical storage. So 
you may have to copy the snapshot made to other physical storage manually .


2012-10-18 9:20, Jason Lawer:

Hi,

Can anyone give advice on what they are using for backup on their ovirt 
deployments. We have been using tar balls  rsync on our linux servers, but are 
looking for something more manageable and the number of servers grows rapidly.

I ask because I have been looking at a few options. The first idea that came to 
mind was a hot snapshot of the virtual disk, however from what I can see ovirt 
won't allow that. Most of the others have serious drawbacks, so I wanted to 
know if anyone had a silver bullet before I put more time into it.


Jason
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shum...@linux.vnet.ibm.com
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Beijing 100193, PRC


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