Re: [Users] Network reconfiguration in ovirt 3.1

2013-01-14 Thread Jiri Belka
On Mon, 14 Jan 2013 13:36:04 +0200
Itamar Heim ih...@redhat.com wrote:

 On 12/27/2012 03:48 PM, Dan Kenigsberg wrote:
 ...
  http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Normalized_ovirtmgmt_Initialization

I was reading about QinQ yesterday and discovered it is one
of featurse that the project would like to see in oVirt.

Now I'm curious, as NetworkManager has been around for couple of
years and still it is not finished, why oVirt want to depend
of this tool?

Wouldn't be better to use libvirt networking features for
portability as well and/or talk to libvirt devs to implement
features which you would like to see?

jbelka
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Re: [Users] Network reconfiguration in ovirt 3.1

2012-12-27 Thread Jiri Belka
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:54:01 +
Alex Leonhardt alex.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've had the same issue, turns out it resets itself everytime you 
 configure the network interfaces *and* although you fix it it wont 
 save the config until I saw the tick box (scroll down) to do
 so ;) ...
 
 Caught me up a couple times and was going to report it as a bug next
 week.
 
 The solution is not to reset the node, it's to manually reconfigure
 the NIC to have the same / old IP address, the node will come back to
 live which then enables you to re-save the network config by setting
 it to manual and ticking the box ;)

My opinion is that ovirt engine should _NOT_ touch automatically
OS networking at all without confirmation of the user!

I haven't read the code but it seems it is using first available network
interface. What about it my first network interfaces is dedicated for
special purpose? I worked in a company where every server had 3
interfaces - 1st install/backup - 2nd service - 3rd admin. In this case
ovirtmgmt should be on 3rd interface, not first one.

I totally hate every autoreconfiguration without confirmation, this
style pretends to be more clever that sysadmin and finally it sometimes
break whole setup and needs manual reparation.

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Re: [Users] Network reconfiguration in ovirt 3.1

2012-12-27 Thread Dan Kenigsberg
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:51:00AM +0100, Jiri Belka wrote:
 On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:54:01 +
 Alex Leonhardt alex.t...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've had the same issue, turns out it resets itself everytime you 
  configure the network interfaces *and* although you fix it it wont 
  save the config until I saw the tick box (scroll down) to do
  so ;) ...
  
  Caught me up a couple times and was going to report it as a bug next
  week.
  
  The solution is not to reset the node, it's to manually reconfigure
  the NIC to have the same / old IP address, the node will come back to
  live which then enables you to re-save the network config by setting
  it to manual and ticking the box ;)
 
 My opinion is that ovirt engine should _NOT_ touch automatically
 OS networking at all without confirmation of the user!
 
 I haven't read the code but it seems it is using first available network
 interface. What about it my first network interfaces is dedicated for
 special purpose? I worked in a company where every server had 3
 interfaces - 1st install/backup - 2nd service - 3rd admin. In this case
 ovirtmgmt should be on 3rd interface, not first one.

Actually ovirtmgmt is built on top the interface leading towards Engine.

 
 I totally hate every autoreconfiguration without confirmation, this
 style pretends to be more clever that sysadmin and finally it sometimes
 break whole setup and needs manual reparation.

On the other hand, we need to define the management network when a host
is added to the setup, and nagging for confirmation for each of them may
lead us to the blind baboon acking syndrome.

Since I'd like to normalize the way ovirtmgmt is created, and make it
more like other networks, I've written up
http://www.ovirt.org/Features/Normalized_ovirtmgmt_Initialization

If the Add Host dialog had a checkbox saying define ovirtmgmt network
automatically, would it satisfy you? (any other comment to that feature
page is welcome).

regards,
Dan.
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[Users] Network reconfiguration in ovirt 3.1

2012-12-23 Thread Kevin Maziere Aubry
Hi all

System : Fedora 17
On node :
Libvirt 0.10
Kernel Linux node1 3.6.10-2.fc17.x86_64
Stable VDSM from repo
On manager :
Ovirt 3.1 stable
Kernel Linux ovirt-manager 3.5.4-1.fc17.x86_64


By default the ovirtmgmt interface is created on node as a bridge with the
same parameters than p1p1. That is good so that you keep network working on
the node.

I've setup a new tagged network on Ovirt, which I have to add to all the
node of my cluster.
So I plug this new network on p1p2, do not touch to ovirtmgmt network, and
apply... and the server is lost.
In fact when reconfiguring the network the ovirtmgmt card is set to DHCP,
which is the problem.

And the only solution to make vdsm back online, is to reset the complete
node.

Kévin


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Re: [Users] Network reconfiguration in ovirt 3.1

2012-12-23 Thread Alex Leonhardt
I've had the same issue, turns out it resets itself everytime you 
configure the network interfaces *and* although you fix it it wont 
save the config until I saw the tick box (scroll down) to do so ;) ...


Caught me up a couple times and was going to report it as a bug next week.

The solution is not to reset the node, it's to manually reconfigure the 
NIC to have the same / old IP address, the node will come back to live 
which then enables you to re-save the network config by setting it to 
manual and ticking the box ;)


Alex


On 12/21/2012 08:49 AM, Kevin Maziere Aubry wrote:

Hi all

System : Fedora 17
On node :
Libvirt 0.10
Kernel Linux node1 3.6.10-2.fc17.x86_64
Stable VDSM from repo
On manager :
Ovirt 3.1 stable
Kernel Linux ovirt-manager 3.5.4-1.fc17.x86_64


By default the ovirtmgmt interface is created on node as a bridge with 
the same parameters than p1p1. That is good so that you keep network 
working on the node.


I've setup a new tagged network on Ovirt, which I have to add to all 
the node of my cluster.
So I plug this new network on p1p2, do not touch to ovirtmgmt network, 
and apply... and the server is lost.
In fact when reconfiguring the network the ovirtmgmt card is set to 
DHCP, which is the problem.


And the only solution to make vdsm back online, is to reset the 
complete node.


Kévin


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Responsable Infrastructure
Alter Way -- Hosting
1 rue Royal - 227 Bureaux de la Colline
92213 Saint-Cloud Cedex
Tél : +33 (0)1 41 16 38 41
Mob : +33 (0)7 62 55 57 05
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