Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Am 19.01.21 um 07:26 schrieb c...@brain-biotech.de: Also I had intermited problems with syncing contacts some worked some didn't. This one I will try to reproduce. I could reproduce this and reported a bug: https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=5249 Regards -- Dr. Christian Naumer Vice President Unit Head Bioprocess Development B.R.A.I.N Aktiengesellschaft Darmstaedter Str. 34-36, D-64673 Zwingenberg e-mail c...@brain-biotech.com, homepage www.brain-biotech.com phone +49-6251-9331-30 / fax +49-6251-9331-11 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Zwingenberg/Bergstrasse Registergericht AG Darmstadt, HRB 24758 Vorstand: Adriaan Moelker (Vorstandsvorsitzender), Lukas Linnig Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Dr. Georg Kellinghusen -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
On 2021-01-19 1:26 a.m., c...@brain-biotech.de wrote: Yes as said above with the address book we have most of the problems. As it said in the posts to tb-planning (https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-August/007793.html) the carddav code is not ready for production. My comments are unrelated to the CardDAV code. That code is fine and I have looked into it a lot before deciding to drop our own code. The address book in TB78 was entirely redone - that's where the bugs are coming. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: https://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (https://sogo.nu), PacketFence (https://packetfence.org) and Fingerbank (https://fingerbank.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hello All. Am 15.01.21 um 16:15 schrieb Ludovic Marcotte (lmarco...@inverse.ca): If you have a bug with the current beta extension please it at sogo.nu/bugs - with detailed explanations on how to reproduce it. There is our problem. We did small beta test with our users (10 users from 120) and upgraded them to 78 with the new extension. For two of the users email auto fill addresses did not work anymore. But just two not all. These two had in common that they had an addressbook with >2000 contacts. But removing this from their account and creating a new profile did not fix the problem! Also I had intermited problems with syncing contacts some worked some didn't. This one I will try to reproduce. The extension has been working well for me for weeks now - but Thunderbird 78, not so well. I find to be extremely slow and the address book module is a bit buggy. None of that is related to the SOGo Connector, but it doesn't encourage us to push for it for now. Yes as said above with the address book we have most of the problems. As it said in the posts to tb-planning (https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2020-August/007793.html) the carddav code is not ready for production. However, we just can not delay the upgrade much longer. Regards Christian -- Dr. Christian Naumer Vice President Unit Head Bioprocess Development B.R.A.I.N Aktiengesellschaft Darmstaedter Str. 34-36, D-64673 Zwingenberg e-mail c...@brain-biotech.com, homepage www.brain-biotech.com phone +49-6251-9331-30 / fax +49-6251-9331-11 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Zwingenberg/Bergstrasse Registergericht AG Darmstadt, HRB 24758 Vorstand: Adriaan Moelker (Vorstandsvorsitzender), Lukas Linnig Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Dr. Georg Kellinghusen -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hi, On 15/01/2021 16:15, Ludovic Marcotte (lmarco...@inverse.ca) wrote: Hi, I agree with what John said. As for the status, we basically need to complete the integration with the SOGo Update Server before releasing the extension. If you have a bug with the current beta extension please it at sogo.nu/bugs - with detailed explanations on how to reproduce it. I just reported 4 bugs with the newest connector version: 1) connector needs hardcoded url and user name [1] 2) duplicate address books [2] 3) e-mail lists not being synced [3] 4) problem with read-only calendars [4] Cheers Christoph [1] https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=5245 [2] https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=5246 [3] https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=5247 [4] https://sogo.nu/bugs/view.php?id=5248 The extension has been working well for me for weeks now - but Thunderbird 78, not so well. I find to be extremely slow and the address book module is a bit buggy. None of that is related to the SOGo Connector, but it doesn't encourage us to push for it for now. Thanks, On 2021-01-13 2:03 p.m., John Bieling (john.biel...@gmx.de) wrote: If you have error reports regarding Thunderbird CardDAV, than it would be beneficial to file a bug, so they can improve. I don't think they know... John Am 13.01.2021 um 19:24 schrieb Lukas Wringer (lukas.wrin...@rz.uni-augsburg.de) : Hi, I think it was just to early to use the MZLA/Mozilla integration of CardDav. I tried it without the plugin (in 78*) and it was just garbage (it is still on proof-of-concept level imho). Maybe we just have to skip 78 for good... I think the only way for even 86 (or whatever will be the next final) to work properly (with lists, read-only address books, and so on) would be if SOGo and MZLA could work together on this. Although on Beta 85 CardDav is enabled by default... greetings, Lukas Am 13.01.21 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Pauxberger (fr...@pauxberger.de): Hi Christian, I have started with SOGo some time back in 2011 and still love it after about 10 years. It does everything I need and look for and I keep recommending it! Great work once more and once again!! This time though I have to admit I am slightly disappointed on whatever happens around the Plugin for TB78. I have tested it over and over again with varying results, always using the latest versions of the SW required. And with various comments here in the mailing list. But I fully agree, it is not production ready. So for now I stay on TB68 in Prod and have a test instance with TB78 using TbSync/provider for CalDAV and CardDAV/Category Manager. That is sort of ok but nothing I would recommend in larger scenarios. I am really (really really, Ludovic) looking forward to having a reliably working SOGo Connector for Thunderbird 78. What is the bottle neck? Kind regards Frank Original-Message Subject: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status From: Cn To: Users CC: Date: Mittwoch, 13. Jan. 2021, 14:09 (MN +0100) Hello all, I wanted to ask what the current plan/status is of the TB Plugin for 78. It is not really ready for production yet. So what are the plans? Is there a timeline? What are other doing in the meantime? Stay on 68 ? Regards Christian -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- Lukas Wringer Universität Augsburg Rechenzentrum Service & Support 86135 Augsburg -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hi, Am 15.01.21 um 16:15 schrieb Ludovic Marcotte (lmarco...@inverse.ca): If you have a bug with the current beta extension please it at sogo.nu/bugs - with detailed explanations on how to reproduce it. ok, at least for the 100% reproducable ones I put them there. But there is a general instability with every sogo specific function and carddav functions that are like whack-a-mole, every time I try to reproduce it it is gone and comes back randomly... > the address book module is a bit buggy yes, especially that the default adress books are neither deletable nor renameable introduce weird effects (because default SOGo address books are named the same, at least after l10n happens) And at least for the missing read-only address books and lists (a blocker for us) I did create feature-request-bugs in mozillas bugzilla ;-) Greetings Lukas -- Lukas Wringer Universität Augsburg Rechenzentrum Service & Support 86135 Augsburg OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hi, I agree with what John said. As for the status, we basically need to complete the integration with the SOGo Update Server before releasing the extension. If you have a bug with the current beta extension please it at sogo.nu/bugs - with detailed explanations on how to reproduce it. The extension has been working well for me for weeks now - but Thunderbird 78, not so well. I find to be extremely slow and the address book module is a bit buggy. None of that is related to the SOGo Connector, but it doesn't encourage us to push for it for now. Thanks, On 2021-01-13 2:03 p.m., John Bieling (john.biel...@gmx.de) wrote: If you have error reports regarding Thunderbird CardDAV, than it would be beneficial to file a bug, so they can improve. I don't think they know... John Am 13.01.2021 um 19:24 schrieb Lukas Wringer (lukas.wrin...@rz.uni-augsburg.de) : Hi, I think it was just to early to use the MZLA/Mozilla integration of CardDav. I tried it without the plugin (in 78*) and it was just garbage (it is still on proof-of-concept level imho). Maybe we just have to skip 78 for good... I think the only way for even 86 (or whatever will be the next final) to work properly (with lists, read-only address books, and so on) would be if SOGo and MZLA could work together on this. Although on Beta 85 CardDav is enabled by default... greetings, Lukas Am 13.01.21 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Pauxberger (fr...@pauxberger.de): Hi Christian, I have started with SOGo some time back in 2011 and still love it after about 10 years. It does everything I need and look for and I keep recommending it! Great work once more and once again!! This time though I have to admit I am slightly disappointed on whatever happens around the Plugin for TB78. I have tested it over and over again with varying results, always using the latest versions of the SW required. And with various comments here in the mailing list. But I fully agree, it is not production ready. So for now I stay on TB68 in Prod and have a test instance with TB78 using TbSync/provider for CalDAV and CardDAV/Category Manager. That is sort of ok but nothing I would recommend in larger scenarios. I am really (really really, Ludovic) looking forward to having a reliably working SOGo Connector for Thunderbird 78. What is the bottle neck? Kind regards Frank Original-Message Subject: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status From: Cn To: Users CC: Date: Mittwoch, 13. Jan. 2021, 14:09 (MN +0100) Hello all, I wanted to ask what the current plan/status is of the TB Plugin for 78. It is not really ready for production yet. So what are the plans? Is there a timeline? What are other doing in the meantime? Stay on 68 ? Regards Christian -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- Lukas Wringer Universität Augsburg Rechenzentrum Service & Support 86135 Augsburg -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: https://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (https://sogo.nu), PacketFence (https://packetfence.org) and Fingerbank (https://fingerbank.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
If you have error reports regarding Thunderbird CardDAV, than it would be beneficial to file a bug, so they can improve. I don't think they know... John > Am 13.01.2021 um 19:24 schrieb Lukas Wringer > (lukas.wrin...@rz.uni-augsburg.de) : > > Hi, > > I think it was just to early to use the MZLA/Mozilla integration of CardDav. > I tried it without the plugin (in 78*) and it was just garbage (it is still > on proof-of-concept level imho). Maybe we just have to skip 78 for good... > > I think the only way for even 86 (or whatever will be the next final) to work > properly (with lists, read-only address books, and so on) would be if SOGo > and MZLA could work together on this. > > Although on Beta 85 CardDav is enabled by default... > > greetings, Lukas > >> Am 13.01.21 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Pauxberger (fr...@pauxberger.de): >> Hi Christian, >> I have started with SOGo some time back in 2011 and still love it after >> about 10 years. It does everything I need and look for and I keep >> recommending it! Great work once more and once again!! >> This time though I have to admit I am slightly disappointed on whatever >> happens around the Plugin for TB78. I have tested it over and over again >> with varying results, always using the latest versions of the SW required. >> And with various comments here in the mailing list. >> But I fully agree, it is not production ready. >> So for now I stay on TB68 in Prod and have a test instance with TB78 using >> TbSync/provider for CalDAV and CardDAV/Category Manager. That is sort of ok >> but nothing I would recommend in larger scenarios. I am really (really >> really, Ludovic) looking forward to having a reliably working SOGo Connector >> for Thunderbird 78. >> What is the bottle neck? >> Kind regards >> Frank >> Original-Message >> Subject: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status >> From: Cn >> To: Users >> CC: >> Date: Mittwoch, 13. Jan. 2021, 14:09 (MN +0100) >>> Hello all, >>> I wanted to ask what the current plan/status is of the TB Plugin for 78. It >>> is not really ready for production yet. >>> So what are the plans? >>> Is there a timeline? >>> What are other doing in the meantime? Stay on 68 ? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Christian >> -- >> users@sogo.nu >> https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists > > -- > Lukas Wringer > > Universität Augsburg > Rechenzentrum > Service & Support > 86135 Augsburg > -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hi, I think it was just to early to use the MZLA/Mozilla integration of CardDav. I tried it without the plugin (in 78*) and it was just garbage (it is still on proof-of-concept level imho). Maybe we just have to skip 78 for good... I think the only way for even 86 (or whatever will be the next final) to work properly (with lists, read-only address books, and so on) would be if SOGo and MZLA could work together on this. Although on Beta 85 CardDav is enabled by default... greetings, Lukas Am 13.01.21 um 18:00 schrieb Frank Pauxberger (fr...@pauxberger.de): Hi Christian, I have started with SOGo some time back in 2011 and still love it after about 10 years. It does everything I need and look for and I keep recommending it! Great work once more and once again!! This time though I have to admit I am slightly disappointed on whatever happens around the Plugin for TB78. I have tested it over and over again with varying results, always using the latest versions of the SW required. And with various comments here in the mailing list. But I fully agree, it is not production ready. So for now I stay on TB68 in Prod and have a test instance with TB78 using TbSync/provider for CalDAV and CardDAV/Category Manager. That is sort of ok but nothing I would recommend in larger scenarios. I am really (really really, Ludovic) looking forward to having a reliably working SOGo Connector for Thunderbird 78. What is the bottle neck? Kind regards Frank Original-Message Subject: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status From: Cn To: Users CC: Date: Mittwoch, 13. Jan. 2021, 14:09 (MN +0100) Hello all, I wanted to ask what the current plan/status is of the TB Plugin for 78. It is not really ready for production yet. So what are the plans? Is there a timeline? What are other doing in the meantime? Stay on 68 ? Regards Christian -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- Lukas Wringer Universität Augsburg Rechenzentrum Service & Support 86135 Augsburg OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hi Christian, I have started with SOGo some time back in 2011 and still love it after about 10 years. It does everything I need and look for and I keep recommending it! Great work once more and once again!! This time though I have to admit I am slightly disappointed on whatever happens around the Plugin for TB78. I have tested it over and over again with varying results, always using the latest versions of the SW required. And with various comments here in the mailing list. But I fully agree, it is not production ready. So for now I stay on TB68 in Prod and have a test instance with TB78 using TbSync/provider for CalDAV and CardDAV/Category Manager. That is sort of ok but nothing I would recommend in larger scenarios. I am really (really really, Ludovic) looking forward to having a reliably working SOGo Connector for Thunderbird 78. What is the bottle neck? Kind regards Frank Original-Message Subject: [SOGo] Thunderbird Status From: Cn To: Users CC: Date: Mittwoch, 13. Jan. 2021, 14:09 (MN +0100) Hello all, I wanted to ask what the current plan/status is of the TB Plugin for 78. It is not really ready for production yet. So what are the plans? Is there a timeline? What are other doing in the meantime? Stay on 68 ? Regards Christian -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] Thunderbird Status
Hello all, I wanted to ask what the current plan/status is of the TB Plugin for 78. It is not really ready for production yet. So what are the plans? Is there a timeline? What are other doing in the meantime? Stay on 68 ? Regards Christian -- Dr. Christian Naumer Vice President Unit Head Bioprocess Development B.R.A.I.N Aktiengesellschaft Darmstaedter Str. 34-36, D-64673 Zwingenberg e-mail c...@brain-biotech.com, homepage www.brain-biotech.com phone +49-6251-9331-30 / fax +49-6251-9331-11 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Zwingenberg/Bergstrasse Registergericht AG Darmstadt, HRB 24758 Vorstand: Adriaan Moelker (Vorstandsvorsitzender), Lukas Linnig Aufsichtsratsvorsitzender: Dr. Georg Kellinghusen -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
