[SOGo] Training SOGo
Hello, Any training to SOGo exists ? Where and how ? Thank you for your experience. -- Analyste, Administrateur. France -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Training
On 27/06/13 21:45, Steven Swarts wrote: Ah well that would mean I need to do a lot of manual reading. Ok well thanks for the reply's guys.*/ Regards,/* */Steven Swarts/* On 27/06/2013 5:25 AM, Jonathan Goyette wrote: No lies, 2 weeks ago I didn't know anything about postfix, cyrus, how to setup an ldap server, sasl or anything related to a 'business linux mail server'. and thanksfully, with alot of effort, I managed to learn about all of those modules and setup a working lab composed of postfix, cyrus-imap, ldap, sogo, sasl and some startls etc etc. I just finished making everything work with the thunderbird addon today and I must admit that I find this alternative very interesting so far !! :) Thanks alot for this :D to get back on the topic, I would admit that it is a little hard to find good information that looks like 'course' or good tutorial that really covers everything. I believe that this is simply because all those things are heavily configurable and most of the tutorial I saw lacked alot of information. Hell, just postfix in itself is a beast when it comes down to the amount of possible option settings there is! I personally chose self training, by reading alot of the original manual, mixed with a few trial errors from some tutorials, more reading! and well, make a lab with some vm (I use virtual box..) and fix some objective... Then in the process you might have a better idea of what kind of course you're looking for and might even find it yourself ;p hehe, well that was just my 2 cents. no need to flame me on that :D in the process of building sogo I figured out that there is so much différent things you can use... Just as an example, I found out that you have Directory389, slapd, apacheDS or even freeipa. Oh well, sorry for the lack of reference, and good luck :) Jonathan G. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Steven Swarts ste...@swartsit.com mailto:ste...@swartsit.com wrote: Quoting Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk On 26/06/2013 06:35, Steven Swarts wrote: G'day guys I've been following SOGo for awhile now, used the ZEG and played with the tutorial that Oliver has kindly made available. My question is I have access to a vast amount of small businesses that I currently support and would love to support in the area of an Exchange alternative. But my reluctance is that I don't understand SOGo, OpenChange, Dovecot, Samba4, Sope, etc. I was wondering if anyone knew or could tell me where I could get training in this area. Currently I have a basic understanding of Linux, but I'm looking for a cutting edge education. The local education places only support Samba3 which annoys me to no end. So in a nutshell, if I were to do some courses (online preferably) what is the recommendation? Also I just want to say brilliant venture, I love Linux so keep up the great work. Hello Steven, I have been following SOGo for several months now and played with the ZEG and tried to add SOGo to a Debian server. I think there is a long way to go with this before I can use it and I don't think it's a matter of training. I have used ClearOS 5.2 successfully for small businesses. With it's web interface it's very easy to get it to do all the things it's capable of such as file sharing, email and hosting the companies website. (I can't say the same about ClearOS 6) The 'Internet' defines lots of things for us, like how websites work, how email works and how DNS works. What it does not define is how address books work. All I want is a simple centralised database of email addresses that is shared by all email users in the company. Back in the 90's there was a fantastic thing called Lotus Notes which was the ultimate groupware. There are no open standards to let you create one in Linux. Whare are the IMAP and SMTP protocols for address books and calendars? I have no idea why people would create standards such as IMAP yet not carry on and create standards for address books. Unless it's so that Microsoft Exchange has no competitor in the Open Source area. Regards, Wayland. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) -- Mobile: 07925 431381 Office: 01787 388165 -- users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists Well currently i use Horde Webmail groupware. It supports CalDav and CardDav plus active sync capabilities with iOS and Android up to AS 14.1 But SOGo and the native Outlook support is a winner in my books, plus
Re: [SOGo] Training
Ah well that would mean I need to do a lot of manual reading. Ok well thanks for the reply's guys.*/ Regards,/* */Steven Swarts/* On 27/06/2013 5:25 AM, Jonathan Goyette wrote: No lies, 2 weeks ago I didn't know anything about postfix, cyrus, how to setup an ldap server, sasl or anything related to a 'business linux mail server'. and thanksfully, with alot of effort, I managed to learn about all of those modules and setup a working lab composed of postfix, cyrus-imap, ldap, sogo, sasl and some startls etc etc. I just finished making everything work with the thunderbird addon today and I must admit that I find this alternative very interesting so far !! :) Thanks alot for this :D to get back on the topic, I would admit that it is a little hard to find good information that looks like 'course' or good tutorial that really covers everything. I believe that this is simply because all those things are heavily configurable and most of the tutorial I saw lacked alot of information. Hell, just postfix in itself is a beast when it comes down to the amount of possible option settings there is! I personally chose self training, by reading alot of the original manual, mixed with a few trial errors from some tutorials, more reading! and well, make a lab with some vm (I use virtual box..) and fix some objective... Then in the process you might have a better idea of what kind of course you're looking for and might even find it yourself ;p hehe, well that was just my 2 cents. no need to flame me on that :D in the process of building sogo I figured out that there is so much différent things you can use... Just as an example, I found out that you have Directory389, slapd, apacheDS or even freeipa. Oh well, sorry for the lack of reference, and good luck :) Jonathan G. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Steven Swarts ste...@swartsit.com mailto:ste...@swartsit.com wrote: Quoting Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk mailto:wayl...@sothcott.co.uk On 26/06/2013 06:35, Steven Swarts wrote: G'day guys I've been following SOGo for awhile now, used the ZEG and played with the tutorial that Oliver has kindly made available. My question is I have access to a vast amount of small businesses that I currently support and would love to support in the area of an Exchange alternative. But my reluctance is that I don't understand SOGo, OpenChange, Dovecot, Samba4, Sope, etc. I was wondering if anyone knew or could tell me where I could get training in this area. Currently I have a basic understanding of Linux, but I'm looking for a cutting edge education. The local education places only support Samba3 which annoys me to no end. So in a nutshell, if I were to do some courses (online preferably) what is the recommendation? Also I just want to say brilliant venture, I love Linux so keep up the great work. Hello Steven, I have been following SOGo for several months now and played with the ZEG and tried to add SOGo to a Debian server. I think there is a long way to go with this before I can use it and I don't think it's a matter of training. I have used ClearOS 5.2 successfully for small businesses. With it's web interface it's very easy to get it to do all the things it's capable of such as file sharing, email and hosting the companies website. (I can't say the same about ClearOS 6) The 'Internet' defines lots of things for us, like how websites work, how email works and how DNS works. What it does not define is how address books work. All I want is a simple centralised database of email addresses that is shared by all email users in the company. Back in the 90's there was a fantastic thing called Lotus Notes which was the ultimate groupware. There are no open standards to let you create one in Linux. Whare are the IMAP and SMTP protocols for address books and calendars? I have no idea why people would create standards such as IMAP yet not carry on and create standards for address books. Unless it's so that Microsoft Exchange has no competitor in the Open Source area. Regards, Wayland. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) -- Mobile: 07925 431381 Office: 01787 388165 -- users@sogo.nu mailto:users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists Well currently i use Horde Webmail groupware. It supports CalDav and CardDav plus active sync capabilities with iOS and Android up to AS 14.1 But SOGo and the native Outlook support is a winner in my books, plus coupled with Samba 4 and goodbye Microsoft in a couple of
Re: [SOGo] Training
On 2013-06-26 7:54 AM, Wayland Sothcott wrote: Back in the 90's there was a fantastic thing called Lotus Notes which was the ultimate groupware. There are no open standards to let you create one in Linux. Whare are the IMAP and SMTP protocols for address books and calendars? They are called CardDAV and CalDAV. -- Ludovic Marcotte lmarco...@inverse.ca :: +1.514.755.3630 :: http://inverse.ca Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence (http://packetfence.org) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Training
On 26.06.2013 13:54, Wayland Sothcott wrote: On 26/06/2013 06:35, Steven Swarts wrote: G'day guys I've been following SOGo for awhile now, used the ZEG and played with the tutorial that Oliver has kindly made available. My question is I have access to a vast amount of small businesses that I currently support and would love to support in the area of an Exchange alternative. But my reluctance is that I don't understand SOGo, OpenChange, Dovecot, Samba4, Sope, etc. I was wondering if anyone knew or could tell me where I could get training in this area. Currently I have a basic understanding of Linux, but I'm looking for a cutting edge education. The local education places only support Samba3 which annoys me to no end. So in a nutshell, if I were to do some courses (online preferably) what is the recommendation? Also I just want to say brilliant venture, I love Linux so keep up the great work. Hello Steven, I have been following SOGo for several months now and played with the ZEG and tried to add SOGo to a Debian server. I think there is a long way to go with this before I can use it and I don't think it's a matter of training. I have used ClearOS 5.2 successfully for small businesses. With it's web interface it's very easy to get it to do all the things it's capable of such as file sharing, email and hosting the companies website. (I can't say the same about ClearOS 6) The 'Internet' defines lots of things for us, like how websites work, how email works and how DNS works. What it does not define is how address books work. All I want is a simple centralised database of email addresses that is shared by all email users in the company. Back in the 90's there was a fantastic thing called Lotus Notes which was the ultimate groupware. There are no open standards to let you create one in Linux. Whare are the IMAP and SMTP protocols for address books and calendars? CardDAV and CalDAV. Coinincidentally, what SOGo uses. And Apple. And KDE. And Gnome. And… about everyone, sans Google (who want to push their own services – thankfully, there are decent clients for Android) and Microsoft (surprise!). I have no idea why people would create standards such as IMAP yet not carry on and create standards for address books. Unless it's so that Microsoft Exchange has no competitor in the Open Source area. Regards, Wayland. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, / Best Regards, Sven SCHWEDAS Systemadministrator TAO Beratungs- und Management GmbH | Lendplatz 45 | A - 8020 Graz Mail/XMPP: sven.schwe...@tao.at | +43 (0)680 301 7167 http://software.tao.at signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [SOGo] Training
Quoting Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk On 26/06/2013 06:35, Steven Swarts wrote: G'day guys I've been following SOGo for awhile now, used the ZEG and played with the tutorial that Oliver has kindly made available. My question is I have access to a vast amount of small businesses that I currently support and would love to support in the area of an Exchange alternative. But my reluctance is that I don't understand SOGo, OpenChange, Dovecot, Samba4, Sope, etc. I was wondering if anyone knew or could tell me where I could get training in this area. Currently I have a basic understanding of Linux, but I'm looking for a cutting edge education. The local education places only support Samba3 which annoys me to no end. So in a nutshell, if I were to do some courses (online preferably) what is the recommendation? Also I just want to say brilliant venture, I love Linux so keep up the great work. Hello Steven, I have been following SOGo for several months now and played with the ZEG and tried to add SOGo to a Debian server. I think there is a long way to go with this before I can use it and I don't think it's a matter of training. I have used ClearOS 5.2 successfully for small businesses. With it's web interface it's very easy to get it to do all the things it's capable of such as file sharing, email and hosting the companies website. (I can't say the same about ClearOS 6) The 'Internet' defines lots of things for us, like how websites work, how email works and how DNS works. What it does not define is how address books work. All I want is a simple centralised database of email addresses that is shared by all email users in the company. Back in the 90's there was a fantastic thing called Lotus Notes which was the ultimate groupware. There are no open standards to let you create one in Linux. Whare are the IMAP and SMTP protocols for address books and calendars? I have no idea why people would create standards such as IMAP yet not carry on and create standards for address books. Unless it's so that Microsoft Exchange has no competitor in the Open Source area. Regards, Wayland. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) -- Mobile: 07925 431381 Office: 01787 388165 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists Well currently i use Horde Webmail groupware. It supports CalDav and CardDav plus active sync capabilities with iOS and Android up to AS 14.1 But SOGo and the native Outlook support is a winner in my books, plus coupled with Samba 4 and goodbye Microsoft in a couple of years I would say. The trick I'm sure is to know how to set it up, but most importantly how to keep it running. Anyway I hoping that someone has an answer for my original question. Regards, Steven Swarts Swarts IT Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk wrote: -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Training
No lies, 2 weeks ago I didn't know anything about postfix, cyrus, how to setup an ldap server, sasl or anything related to a 'business linux mail server'. and thanksfully, with alot of effort, I managed to learn about all of those modules and setup a working lab composed of postfix, cyrus-imap, ldap, sogo, sasl and some startls etc etc. I just finished making everything work with the thunderbird addon today and I must admit that I find this alternative very interesting so far !! :) Thanks alot for this :D to get back on the topic, I would admit that it is a little hard to find good information that looks like 'course' or good tutorial that really covers everything. I believe that this is simply because all those things are heavily configurable and most of the tutorial I saw lacked alot of information. Hell, just postfix in itself is a beast when it comes down to the amount of possible option settings there is! I personally chose self training, by reading alot of the original manual, mixed with a few trial errors from some tutorials, more reading! and well, make a lab with some vm (I use virtual box..) and fix some objective... Then in the process you might have a better idea of what kind of course you're looking for and might even find it yourself ;p hehe, well that was just my 2 cents. no need to flame me on that :D in the process of building sogo I figured out that there is so much différent things you can use... Just as an example, I found out that you have Directory389, slapd, apacheDS or even freeipa. Oh well, sorry for the lack of reference, and good luck :) Jonathan G. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Steven Swarts ste...@swartsit.com wrote: Quoting Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk On 26/06/2013 06:35, Steven Swarts wrote: G'day guys I've been following SOGo for awhile now, used the ZEG and played with the tutorial that Oliver has kindly made available. My question is I have access to a vast amount of small businesses that I currently support and would love to support in the area of an Exchange alternative. But my reluctance is that I don't understand SOGo, OpenChange, Dovecot, Samba4, Sope, etc. I was wondering if anyone knew or could tell me where I could get training in this area. Currently I have a basic understanding of Linux, but I'm looking for a cutting edge education. The local education places only support Samba3 which annoys me to no end. So in a nutshell, if I were to do some courses (online preferably) what is the recommendation? Also I just want to say brilliant venture, I love Linux so keep up the great work. Hello Steven, I have been following SOGo for several months now and played with the ZEG and tried to add SOGo to a Debian server. I think there is a long way to go with this before I can use it and I don't think it's a matter of training. I have used ClearOS 5.2 successfully for small businesses. With it's web interface it's very easy to get it to do all the things it's capable of such as file sharing, email and hosting the companies website. (I can't say the same about ClearOS 6) The 'Internet' defines lots of things for us, like how websites work, how email works and how DNS works. What it does not define is how address books work. All I want is a simple centralised database of email addresses that is shared by all email users in the company. Back in the 90's there was a fantastic thing called Lotus Notes which was the ultimate groupware. There are no open standards to let you create one in Linux. Whare are the IMAP and SMTP protocols for address books and calendars? I have no idea why people would create standards such as IMAP yet not carry on and create standards for address books. Unless it's so that Microsoft Exchange has no competitor in the Open Source area. Regards, Wayland. (Someone please correct me if I am wrong) -- Mobile: 07925 431381 Office: 01787 388165 -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists Well currently i use Horde Webmail groupware. It supports CalDav and CardDav plus active sync capabilities with iOS and Android up to AS 14.1 But SOGo and the native Outlook support is a winner in my books, plus coupled with Samba 4 and goodbye Microsoft in a couple of years I would say. The trick I'm sure is to know how to set it up, but most importantly how to keep it running. Anyway I hoping that someone has an answer for my original question. Regards, Steven Swarts Swarts IT Wayland Sothcott wayl...@sothcott.co.uk wrote: -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
Re: [SOGo] Training
Good job, Jonathan! We didn't start from scratch but from a prior ZEG We asked Inverse to configure it initially, but I've learned how to manage and upgrade it along the way. I've downloaded the latest ZEG and will begin working through the differences (chiefly, Samba4) to see if I can repeat what I've learned. On 06/26/2013 05:25 PM, Jonathan Goyette wrote: No lies, 2 weeks ago I didn't know anything about postfix, cyrus, how to setup an ldap server, sasl or anything related to a 'business linux mail server'. and thanksfully, with alot of effort, I managed to learn about all of those modules and setup a working lab composed of postfix, cyrus-imap, ldap, sogo, sasl and some startls etc etc. I just finished making everything work with the thunderbird addon today and I must admit that I find this alternative very interesting so far !! :) Thanks alot for this :D to get back on the topic, I would admit that it is a little hard to find good information that looks like 'course' or good tutorial that really covers everything. I believe that this is simply because all those things are heavily configurable and most of the tutorial I saw lacked alot of information. Hell, just postfix in itself is a beast when it comes down to the amount of possible option settings there is! I personally chose self training, by reading alot of the original manual, mixed with a few trial errors from some tutorials, more reading! and well, make a lab with some vm (I use virtual box..) and fix some objective... Then in the process you might have a better idea of what kind of course you're looking for and might even find it yourself ;p hehe, well that was just my 2 cents. no need to flame me on that :D in the process of building sogo I figured out that there is so much différent things you can use... Just as an example, I found out that you have Directory389, slapd, apacheDS or even freeipa. Oh well, sorry for the lack of reference, and good luck :) Jonathan G. -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
[SOGo] Training
G'day guys I've been following SOGo for awhile now, used the ZEG and played with the tutorial that Oliver has kindly made available. My question is I have access to a vast amount of small businesses that I currently support and would love to support in the area of an Exchange alternative. But my reluctance is that I don't understand SOGo, OpenChange, Dovecot, Samba4, Sope, etc. I was wondering if anyone knew or could tell me where I could get training in this area. Currently I have a basic understanding of Linux, but I'm looking for a cutting edge education. The local education places only support Samba3 which annoys me to no end. So in a nutshell, if I were to do some courses (online preferably) what is the recommendation? Also I just want to say brilliant venture, I love Linux so keep up the great work. -- */Regards,/* */Steven Swarts/* -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists
