EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Henrik K
Hi, EmailBL plugin is now available for testing. Small test zone has been running for a while, it contains trapped addresses from some of the most popular freemail domains. http://sa.hege.li/EmailBL.pm (see inside for documentation) http://sa.hege.li/EmailBL.cf (contains the test zone)

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread neil
Hi; Ned Slider wrote: snip My point is it's really not easy to track down such information even when banks do occasionally try to do the right thing. Maybe there is already a list out there. If not, maybe we should compile one? It's hard work trying to do it by yourself, but done as a group

Re: EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/12/2009 11:20 AM, Henrik K wrote: Hi, EmailBL plugin is now available for testing. Small test zone has been running for a while, it contains trapped addresses from some of the most popular freemail domains. http://sa.hege.li/EmailBL.pm (see inside for documentation)

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 19:36 -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ned Slider wrote: Then you get phish where the From address is a bank domain, and the envelope address is from a completely unrelated domain with a valid spf record so even a simple From_Bank spf_pass isn't

Increase in Spam since 7am EDT

2009-05-12 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, I'm seeing a massive increase in connection attempts since 7am EDT this morning. Most is being rejected because of not existing users but the majority that is getting through is hitting Sanesecurity.Casino.11228.UNOFFICIAL. I'm seeing this across 5 different servers, all hosting

Re: Increase in Spam since 7am EDT

2009-05-12 Thread Randy
Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, I'm seeing a massive increase in connection attempts since 7am EDT this morning. Most is being rejected because of not existing users but the majority that is getting through is hitting Sanesecurity.Casino.11228.UNOFFICIAL. I'm seeing this across 5 different

Re: Increase in Spam since 7am EDT

2009-05-12 Thread Rick Macdougall
Randy wrote: Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, I'm seeing a massive increase in connection attempts since 7am EDT this morning. Most is being rejected because of not existing users but the majority that is getting through is hitting Sanesecurity.Casino.11228.UNOFFICIAL. Back skatter? Someone

sorry for having posted before rtfm

2009-05-12 Thread Maurizio Marini
my apologize to the list, i have posted on png issue, without reading before; there was more mails on this issue than the spam we have received, at least the spammers get one result, that we become spammers like them and flood our mailing list i should buy their produtcs and lasting some

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/12/2009 4:32 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm not using your plugin yet but using it from Exim instead and it's working well. Lots of hist. I suppose we'll find out if there's any false positives. Here's how you do it in Exim set acl_c_from_address = ${lc:${address:$h_From:}} set

Re: EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Wolfgang Zeikat
Hi On 05/12/2009 11:20 AM, Henrik K wrote: http://sa.hege.li/EmailBL.pm (see inside for documentation) ### About: # # This plugin creates rbl style DNS lookups for emails. does this plugin handle emails in the sense of email addresses? Or does it make md5hashes of emails in the sense of

Re: EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Justin Mason
I've added it to SVN for testing -- my sandbox for now, but I'll move it to Alex's once his acct is set up ;) is there a test entry for this zone? --j. On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:26, Yet Another Ninja sa-l...@alexb.ch wrote: On 5/12/2009 11:20 AM, Henrik K wrote: Hi, EmailBL plugin is now

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Yet Another Ninja wrote: On 5/12/2009 4:32 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: I'm not using your plugin yet but using it from Exim instead and it's working well. Lots of hist. I suppose we'll find out if there's any false positives. Here's how you do it in Exim set acl_c_from_address =

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Marc Perkel
I'm not using your plugin yet but using it from Exim instead and it's working well. Lots of hist. I suppose we'll find out if there's any false positives. Here's how you do it in Exim set acl_c_from_address = ${lc:${address:$h_From:}} set acl_c_from_address_hash = ${md5:$acl_c_from_address}

Re: EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Marc Perkel
Do you need more mirrors? I can offer you 4 additional servers. Henrik K wrote: Hi, EmailBL plugin is now available for testing. Small test zone has been running for a while, it contains trapped addresses from some of the most popular freemail domains. http://sa.hege.li/EmailBL.pm (see

Re: EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/12/2009 5:02 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Do you need more mirrors? I can offer you 4 additional servers. This is all a proof of concept thing and nobody knows what the outcome may be. This zone will disappear in +- 30 days. and unless the mirrors complain that the load is rising a lot, I

network checks

2009-05-12 Thread jp
I've been using them for years. We do a lot of email (5 mail servers) as an ISP. I sometimes get network test access for free, for others I have paid. It's either a pay big or pay nothing, with no middle ground unfortunately. Many of these, I run my own dns servers and use rsync to replicate

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: Here's how you do it in Exim your idea is a has a MASSIVE drawback. It queries the mailbl for EVERY address... That's not the whole code that I'm using. I'm just demonstrating the concept of how you would make it usable from Exim. I have a lot of

Re: Email sent in a weekend should receive more score

2009-05-12 Thread MGaleti
This is right but if you look in an other way you will see: Monday-Friday: 70% of SPAM and 30% of HAM Sat-Sund: 95% SPAM and 5% HAM ... do you agree ? Marcelo LuKreme wrote: On 10-May-2009, at 13:28, MGaleti wrote: I started to check logs and saw 70%, 80% of emails coming in weekends

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/12/2009 5:37 PM, Charles Gregory wrote: On Tue, 12 May 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: Here's how you do it in Exim your idea is a has a MASSIVE drawback. It queries the mailbl for EVERY address... That's not the whole code that I'm using. I'm just demonstrating the concept of how you would

Re: Email sent in a weekend should receive more score

2009-05-12 Thread MGaleti
Hello LuKreme, Looking with your eyes this is righ. Maybe some very low score and something more particular .. like in geomark Well, great ! Thanks to share this things ... Marcelo Matt Kettler-3 wrote: LuKreme wrote: On 10-May-2009, at 13:28, MGaleti wrote: I started to check logs

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Gregory
I haven't been following the long thread about this plugin. When I followed the links and examined the code/docs, I found that I really didn't have a sense of WHAT this plugin does. At first I thought it was checking for spam 'reply' e-mail addresses within the body of an e-mail (the often

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 5/12/2009 5:45 PM, Charles Gregory wrote: I haven't been following the long thread about this plugin. When I followed the links and examined the code/docs, I found that I really didn't have a sense of WHAT this plugin does. At first I thought it was checking for spam 'reply' e-mail

Re: network checks

2009-05-12 Thread Michael Scheidell
I've been using them for years. We do a lot of email (5 mail servers) as an ISP. I sometimes get network test access for free, for others I have paid. It's either a pay big or pay nothing, with no middle ground unfortunately. Integrate some sort of private purpose p2p system with

Re: Increase in Spam since 7am EDT

2009-05-12 Thread Ned Slider
Rick Macdougall wrote: Randy wrote: Rick Macdougall wrote: Hi, I'm seeing a massive increase in connection attempts since 7am EDT this morning. Most is being rejected because of not existing users but the majority that is getting through is hitting Sanesecurity.Casino.11228.UNOFFICIAL.

Re: Email sent in a weekend should receive more score

2009-05-12 Thread Adam Katz
I'd go a step farther ... mail sent outside of the work day (local *and* EST) is more commonly spam. My current assumption (not yet backed by stats) is to add points to anything between 12a-6a EST that is also between 1a-5a locally. In addition, some points (but not as many) can be awarded to

Re: EmailBL plugin released

2009-05-12 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 04:47:25PM +0200, Wolfgang Zeikat wrote: Hi On 05/12/2009 11:20 AM, Henrik K wrote: http://sa.hege.li/EmailBL.pm (see inside for documentation) ### About: # # This plugin creates rbl style DNS lookups for emails. does this plugin handle emails in the sense of

Rule to catch a certain subject

2009-05-12 Thread Paul Houselander
Hi I'm getting some spam slip through with subjects like vi'aqra pr,ofe'ssio,nal matters very much to your s.e,x be self-satisfied - use vi'aqra super act,i've vi'aqra professional - never forget about your s'e.x I was trying to write a rule to catch and tried header PH1 Subject

Issues with bayes setup on shared host

2009-05-12 Thread Rob Sharp
*Newbie Alert* Afternoon all, I'm a customer of a large host (Hostgator) and I am using their shared hosting implementation of SA for my personal email. I also have SSH access to my server, under a jailed shell. SA works well for me, but I wanted to add bayes filtering. Hostgator told me

Re: Email sent in a weekend should receive more score

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 12-May-2009, at 10:11, Adam Katz wrote: I'd go a step farther ... mail sent outside of the work day (local *and* EST) is more commonly spam. If you mailserver is only used for a normal work-day company and normal workday emails, this is possibly true. On my mailserver there is a slight

Re: Email sent in a weekend should receive more score

2009-05-12 Thread Adam Katz
LuKreme wrote: On 12-May-2009, at 10:11, Adam Katz wrote: I'd go a step farther ... mail sent outside of the work day (local *and* EST) is more commonly spam. If you mailserver is only used for a normal work-day company and normal workday emails, this is possibly true. I should have said

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 11-May-2009, at 17:20, Marc Perkel wrote: mouss wrote: Is phishing really a problem for banks? I don't think so. You're kidding right? No, he has a point. The people with the problem are the customers. The bank is at best neutral and at worst couldn't care less. Also, despite the

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 12 May 2009, LuKreme wrote: On 11-May-2009, at 17:20, Marc Perkel wrote: mouss wrote: Is phishing really a problem for banks? I don't think so. You're kidding right? No, he has a point. The people with the problem are the customers. The bank is at best neutral and at worst couldn't

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread digitaltoast
Karsten Bräckelmann-2 wrote: On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 06:56 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: THE PROBLEM: I'm signed up to over 300 forums, shops, sites etc, so there's no way I could make an email address box for all of those pseudoaddresses, as it were. So I can't turn the catchall

revising bayes tokenization

2009-05-12 Thread Adam Katz
Paul Houselander wrote: I'm getting some spam slip through with subjects like vi'aqra pr,ofe'ssio,nal matters very much to your s.e,x be self-satisfied - use vi'aqra super act,i've vi'aqra professional - never forget about your s'e.x This is something I'd typically just throw to the bayes

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread digitaltoast
LuKreme wrote: Seriously, I've had family members who twaddled about with PYLM crap and they simply stopped getting my emails until they learned. Lucky them... -- View this message in context:

Re: [SA] revising bayes tokenization

2009-05-12 Thread Adam Katz
Adam Katz wrote: vi'aqra pr,ofe'ssio,nal matters very much to your s.e,x be self-satisfied - use vi'aqra super act,i've vi'aqra professional - never forget about your s'e.x test s p a c e d words t w i c e in a line this is an act--i've shown it 5 x, a record! Ignore the missing /^test /

Re: [SA] revising bayes tokenization

2009-05-12 Thread Justin Mason
Adam, if you'd like to try these out I'd be very happy ;) masses/bayes-testing/README in the SA svn repository describes how we test new tokenization strategies, in order to pick the ones that actually _work_. (It's quite counterintuitive at times as to what really helps.) also, there's

NO_RELAYS does not trigger when all received is 127.0.0.1

2009-05-12 Thread Benny Pedersen
so when does NO_RELAYS trigger ? i spouted this today as one email sent with smtp localy here, spamassassin says all trusted, with is imho okay, but i think it should be NO_RELAYS and not ALL_TRUSTED is this a config error i have done or ? -- http://localhost/ 100% uptime and 100% mirrored :)

Re: Email sent in a weekend should receive more score

2009-05-12 Thread MGaleti
LuKreme and guys wrote: On 12-May-2009, at 10:11, Adam Katz wrote: I'd go a step farther ... mail sent outside of the work day (local *and* EST) is more commonly spam. If you mailserver is only used for a normal work-day company and normal workday emails, this is possibly true. Hello

problem getting spamassassin to invoke fuzzyocr

2009-05-12 Thread Kate Kleinschafer
Hi All I have found that FuzzyOcr is not being run properly. On a message that has image spam (png) when I run spamassassin -t MESSAGE.MAI it picks it up correctly and gives pts rule name description -- --

Re: EmailBL plugin released - I like it!

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Yet Another Ninja wrote: Oh.. you must have skipped the first 52 lines of EmailBL.pm No I can *now* see the two lines that say where the module gathers addresses from. If they were there before, my apologies. But I read that section of the module pretty closely.

Re: problem getting spamassassin to invoke fuzzyocr

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kate Kleinschafer wrote: when I run it as postfix (user that runs spamassassin) So all the same apart from FuzzyOCR I am unsure now how to find out why it is behaving this way. Check for execute group permissions on the FuzzyOCR modules, make sure they are in a group of

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread mouss
Marc Perkel a écrit : mouss wrote: Is phishing really a problem for banks? I don't think so. (I'll forgive you for snipping the rest of the paragraph, and thus isolating a single phrase which was part of a context...). You're kidding right? No. I never heard of a bank losing money

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread mouss
John Hardin a écrit : On Tue, 12 May 2009, Ned Slider wrote: Then you get phish where the From address is a bank domain, and the envelope address is from a completely unrelated domain with a valid spf record so even a simple From_Bank spf_pass isn't going to work. That might make a

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread Ned Slider
Mike Cardwell wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: Or maybe I'm trying to reinvent a wheel someone already has up and running :-) a bank without SPF or DKIM signing is NOT worth using Yes - but I think what he's saying is that you have to start with a list of bank domains, the test those domains

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ned Slider wrote: uri LOCAL_URI_HIDDEN_DIRm{https?://.{1,40}/\.\w} describe LOCAL_URI_HIDDEN_DIR contains hidden directory of form example.com/.something the fourth might be indicative of a hacked server with a hidden phishing directory. Any comments?

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread Ned Slider
John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009, Ned Slider wrote: uriLOCAL_URI_HIDDEN_DIRm{https?://.{1,40}/\.\w} describeLOCAL_URI_HIDDEN_DIRcontains hidden directory of form example.com/.something the fourth might be indicative of a hacked server with a hidden phishing

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 12-May-2009, at 14:14, digitaltoast wrote: often technical lists are full of people who spend their time doing weird things like trying to make their emails appear as attachments for anyone not using Elm via emacs, in the bizarre belief that: Oddly, I've been reading mail for over 20

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 12-May-2009, at 14:21, digitaltoast wrote: LuKreme wrote: Seriously, I've had family members who twaddled about with PYLM crap and they simply stopped getting my emails until they learned. Lucky them... Ah, you're one of THOSE. *plonk* -- These are the thoughts that kept me out of

Re: FreeMail plugin updated

2009-05-12 Thread Bill Landry
Hi Henrik, I've revamped fully the old code. Works still the same, but has some new functions. It's also a bit more careful when parsing body (new parser, emails inside are ignored, as well ones inside urls etc), so it might even reduce FPs and add hits, who knows. Domains are now

RE: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread RobertH
digital toast... if you have a good system, them implement it for real with real email addresses and reject all the fake (not valid) email addresses to streamline, use a database of some sort if you have to anything you do after that will at least follow more proper design flow... isnt using

Re: FreeMail plugin updated

2009-05-12 Thread Bill Landry
Bill Landry wrote: Hi Henrik, I've revamped fully the old code. Works still the same, but has some new functions. It's also a bit more careful when parsing body (new parser, emails inside are ignored, as well ones inside urls etc), so it might even reduce FPs and add hits, who knows.

Re: problem getting spamassassin to invoke fuzzyocr

2009-05-12 Thread Lists
Charles Gregory wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2009, Kate Kleinschafer wrote: when I run it as postfix (user that runs spamassassin) So all the same apart from FuzzyOCR I am unsure now how to find out why it is behaving this way. Check for execute group permissions on the FuzzyOCR modules, make sure

Re: NO_RELAYS does not trigger when all received is 127.0.0.1

2009-05-12 Thread Matt Kettler
Benny Pedersen wrote: so when does NO_RELAYS trigger ? i spouted this today as one email sent with smtp localy here, spamassassin says all trusted, with is imho okay, but i think it should be NO_RELAYS and not ALL_TRUSTED is this a config error i have done or ? In that case the local

Re: [sa] Re: problem getting spamassassin to invoke fuzzyocr

2009-05-12 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Lists wrote: Do you mean in /etc/mail/spamassassin/FuzzyOcr? I'm not familiar with the module in particular, but that behaviour - runnable as one user (or root) but not another - is nearly always some sort of permission issue. So if the permissions in the directory look

Re: FreeMail plugin updated - banks

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 12-May-2009, at 18:27, John Hardin wrote: uri URI_HIDDEN/\/\../ Ah, that's very very nice. Scoring it at 3.0, too aggressive? -- No matter how fast light travels it finds the darkness has always go there first, and is waiting for it.