Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-31 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 5/30/2016 10:35 AM, Nick Howitt wrote: Just for a bit of closure, it looks like when you use amavisd-new with SA, it is amavisd-new and not SA which is adding the X-Spam headers. In /etc/amavisd/api.conf there is a parameter, $sa_tag_level_deflt, defaulted to -99, below which no X-Spam

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.05.2016 um 16:35 schrieb Nick Howitt: Just for a bit of closure, it looks like when you use amavisd-new with SA, it is amavisd-new and not SA which is adding the X-Spam headers. In /etc/amavisd/api.conf there is a parameter, $sa_tag_level_deflt, defaulted to -99, below which no X-Spam

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-30 Thread Nick Howitt
Just for a bit of closure, it looks like when you use amavisd-new with SA, it is amavisd-new and not SA which is adding the X-Spam headers. In /etc/amavisd/api.conf there is a parameter, $sa_tag_level_deflt, defaulted to -99, below which no X-Spam headers are set. If you whitelist, you start

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Nick Howitt
On 26/05/2016 13:19, Nick Howitt wrote: OK, I've been heavily shot at for my set up which is totally irrelevant to the question I posed and not a pleasant experience. Is there any possibility of some help with the problem I posted about? Matus snuck in the most likely answer a while back

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.05.2016 um 14:19 schrieb Nick Howitt: I'm finding it hard here. I am using preconfigured distro where Postfix, amavis and SA are all supplied as a working set up as is dnsmasq. There is no expectation that the users need to "go under the hood" to fix or change things. In my case I've

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Nick Howitt
OK, I've been heavily shot at for my set up which is totally irrelevant to the question I posed and not a pleasant experience. Is there any possibility of some help with the problem I posted about? Matus snuck in the most likely answer a while back - message size. In Amavis it look as if the

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.05.2016 um 12:22 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 2016-05-26 10:08, Reindl Harald wrote: how often where you asked to stop post HTML mails? and yes, rules are made by people asked for help I try lol - so you don't see the message you compose before hit "send"? but I use multiple machines

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Nick Howitt
On 2016-05-26 10:08, Reindl Harald wrote: how often where you asked to stop post HTML mails? and yes, rules are made by people asked for help I try, but I use multiple machines and don't always remember which I've set explicitly to use plain text. In theory I've set up something in the

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
how often where you asked to stop post HTML mails? and yes, rules are made by people asked for help Am 26.05.2016 um 08:17 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 26/05/2016 00:29, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.05.2016 um 21:58 schrieb Nick Howitt: and what is the problem run a local unbound on port 1053 and

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-26 Thread Nick Howitt
On 26/05/2016 00:29, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 25.05.2016 um 21:58 schrieb Nick Howitt: and what is the problem run a local unbound on port 1053 and just add "dns_server [127.0.0.1]:1053" to

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 25.05.2016 um 21:58 schrieb Nick Howitt: and what is the problem run a local unbound on port 1053 and just add "dns_server [127.0.0.1]:1053" to your SA-configuration when one thinks he is capable to run his own servers? I've tried looking and failed. Any chance of pointing me to where this

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread David Jones
>I used the "Authoritative, validating, recursive caching DNS (example >2)" section of this guide: https://calomel.org/unbound_dns.html but >omitted the forward-zone, local-zone and local-data sections and did a >couple of other parameters differently. PowerDNS Recursor is very easy to install

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread Nick Howitt
thing else. Thanks for mentioning unbound I had never heard of this before. From: Nick Howitt <n...@howitts.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:11:24 AM To: David Jones; SA-Users Subject: Re: Odd results when using whitelisting This thread is so fra

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread Vincent Fox
. Thanks for mentioning unbound I had never heard of this before. From: Nick Howitt <n...@howitts.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:11:24 AM To: David Jones; SA-Users Subject: Re: Odd results when using whitelisting This thread is so fragmented

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread Nick Howitt
and what is the problem run a local unbound on port 1053 and just add "dns_server [127.0.0.1]:1053" to your SA-configuration when one thinks he is capable to run his own servers? I've tried looking and failed. Any chance of pointing me to where this is documented?

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread Nick Howitt
. On 25/05/2016 17:52, David Jones wrote: From: Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:09 AM To: SA-Users Subject: Re: Odd results when using whitelisting On 24 May 2016, at 15:58, David Jones wrote: Dnsmasq is a very powerful DNS server I

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread David Jones
>From: Bill Cole <sausers-20150...@billmail.scconsult.com> >Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2016 10:09 AM >To: SA-Users >Subject: Re: Odd results when using whitelisting >On 24 May 2016, at 15:58, David Jones wrote: >> Dnsmasq is a very powerful DNS server I meant that it

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread Bill Cole
On 24 May 2016, at 15:58, David Jones wrote: Dnsmasq is a very powerful DNS server LOL. Its man page (see http://www.thekelleys.org.uk/dnsmasq/docs/dnsmasq-man.html) opens with the implied admission that it isn't even a "real" DNS server: which it isn't. It's a bloatware DNS proxy. For

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 24 May 2016 19:58:32 + David Jones wrote: > Dnsmasq is a very powerful DNS server so I am sure it can be > configured to do full recursive lookups but this is not a common > configuration for dnsmasq. This has come-up before and it can't.

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 24.05.16 17:49, Nick Howitt wrote: I'm using SpamAssassin v3.3.1-3 on ClearOS 6.7 (a CentOS derivative) and I believe it is invoked by amavis-new. I have a whitelist line in local.cf: Please, don't use html mail in mailing lists. From peacocks-mail.com I get: Return-Path:

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 2016-05-24 21:40, Nick Howitt wrote: Ok, but how does it help me? From what I've read it seems dnsmasq can only do recursion. If I keep dnsmasq then I would need to point it to another iterative DNS resolver running on my box such as PowerDNS or BIND rather than to OpenDNS or have I

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-05-24 22:33, Nick Howitt wrote: /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 127.0.0.1 thats all, make sure it does not change on boot I've already got it (but the man pages says it ignores it!) but then I've got OpenDNS after. one more fail then, you must not use opendns else you will see

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 22:34 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 24/05/2016 21:30, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2016-05-24 21:44, Reindl Harald wrote: no-resolv strict-order server=208.67.222.222 server=208.67.222.220 will fail with uribl.com and others Oh bunk :-( i explained magnitude times *why* this is

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 22:30 schrieb Benny Pedersen: On 2016-05-24 21:44, Reindl Harald wrote: no-resolv strict-order server=208.67.222.222 server=208.67.222.220 will fail with uribl.com and others tell me something new or why do you think i did put the headline "THAT IS A BULLSHIT SETUP ON A

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 22:24 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 24/05/2016 20:44, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 21:40 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 24/05/2016 19:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Nick Howitt: http://uribl.com/refused.shtml Thanks for the link. I use OpenDNS and

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt
On 24/05/2016 21:30, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2016-05-24 21:44, Reindl Harald wrote: no-resolv strict-order server=208.67.222.222 server=208.67.222.220

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt
On 24/05/2016 21:28, Benny Pedersen wrote: On 2016-05-24 21:40, Nick Howitt wrote:  Ok, but how does it help me? From what I've read it seems dnsmasq can only do recursion. If I keep dnsmasq then I would

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-05-24 21:44, Reindl Harald wrote: no-resolv strict-order server=208.67.222.222 server=208.67.222.220 will fail with uribl.com and others

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2016-05-24 21:40, Nick Howitt wrote: Ok, but how does it help me? From what I've read it seems dnsmasq can only do recursion. If I keep dnsmasq then I would need to point it to another iterative DNS resolver running on my box such as PowerDNS or BIND rather than to OpenDNS or have I

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt
On 24/05/2016 20:53, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 21:44 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 24.05.2016 um 21:40 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 24/05/2016 19:11, Reindl Harald wrote:

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread David Jones
*never* use a forwarind/ISP nameserver for a inbound MX > If I understand you, I don't. I have my own domain and my mx record points to > my dyndns FQDN What you mentioned above is hosting your own domain's DNS to the Internet and has nothing to do with how your ClearOS server is resolving it's

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 21:44 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 24.05.2016 um 21:40 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 24/05/2016 19:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Nick Howitt: http://uribl.com/refused.shtml Thanks for the link. I use OpenDNS and it looks like it is being blocked. My

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 21:40 schrieb Nick Howitt: On 24/05/2016 19:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Nick Howitt: http://uribl.com/refused.shtml Thanks for the link. I use OpenDNS and it looks like it is being blocked. My mailserver is my gateway and only runs dnsmasq

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt
On 24/05/2016 19:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Nick Howitt: http://uribl.com/refused.shtml Thanks for the link. I use OpenDNS and it looks like it is being

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 20:05 schrieb Nick Howitt: http://uribl.com/refused.shtml Thanks for the link. I use OpenDNS and it looks like it is being blocked. My mailserver is my gateway and only runs dnsmasq rather than bind and I am only a home user, so, from your link, I fall under the low volume

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt
On 24/05/2016 18:11, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 24.05.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Nick Howitt: Hi, I'm using SpamAssassin v3.3.1-3 on ClearOS 6.7 (a CentOS derivative) and I believe it is invoked by

Re: Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 24.05.2016 um 18:49 schrieb Nick Howitt: Hi, I'm using SpamAssassin v3.3.1-3 on ClearOS 6.7 (a CentOS derivative) and I believe it is invoked by amavis-new. I have a whitelist line in local.cf: whitelist_from *@avivaemail.co.uk @m.avivaemail.co.uk *@tomtom.com *@dpd.co.uk

Odd results when using whitelisting

2016-05-24 Thread Nick Howitt
Hi, I'm using SpamAssassin v3.3.1-3 on ClearOS 6.7 (a CentOS derivative) and I believe it is invoked by amavis-new. I have a whitelist line in local.cf: whitelist_from *@avivaemail.co.uk @m.avivaemail.co.uk *@tomtom.com *@dpd.co.uk *@clearos.com *@peacocks-mail.com