Re: bayes table crashed
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 12:48:37PM -0600, LuKreme wrote: When trying to dump the local MySQL databases I get: mysqldump: Got error: 145: Table './bayes/bayes_token' is marked as crashed and should be repaired when using LOCK TABLES Anything I need to be aware of? Never use MyISAM tables for Bayes. Other than that, this is completely a MySQL topic. Repair your table.
Re: List of cell phone company hosts
please configure your mailer to wrap lines below 80 characters per line. 72 to 75 is usually OK. On Jun 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Marc Perkel wrote: Also - I'd like to make a list of host names where email from celll phones comes from. Does anyone have a list of domain name or host names where cell phone email is sent from? What's the point? I';ve had similar idea because mails sent through SMS and MMS gateways of Slovak cell phone operators were detected as spam because of their lame encodings etc. On 14.06.10 15:33, J.D. Falk wrote: The US FCC maintains a do not email list of domains of email/sms gateways, which might be a start. (Sorry, I'm on a plane and can't look up the URL just now.) Thing is, my cell phone submits messages via the same authenticated relays as my laptop, and that's increasingly more common than the fugly old gateway architecture. Maybe there's another way to achieve whatever it is you're trying to do? submits in what way? Are you talking about accessing your mailbox from your cellphone, special mailbox only for cellphone where you forward your e-mail to get notifications about it, or SMS2mail gateway fby which you can send e-mail from any phone that supports sending of SMS? -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, uh...@fantomas.sk ; http://www.fantomas.sk/ Warning: I wish NOT to receive e-mail advertising to this address. Varovanie: na tuto adresu chcem NEDOSTAVAT akukolvek reklamnu postu. To Boot or not to Boot, that's the question. [WD1270 Caviar]
Re: RTF casino spams
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:11:26 +0200 Marcus li...@localguru.de wrote: Helo, could someone send me a working rule against these empty emails with RTF attchments, which contains links to online casinos? Karsten Bräckelmann posted a useful rule for rtf spams http://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg73382.html
SpamAssassin Integration
Hi, I want to integrate SpamAssassin in my web-based application to test spam score of the email content that our application User's wish to send in mail composing page itself - even before sending. When I say mail composing page here, it is not an email client like Outlook, Outlook Express, etc. but rather it is a regular/normal web-based form with HTML editor. How do I integrate SpamAssassin for my Use Case explained above? Relevant documentation links on the same are appreciated. Regards, Gnanam -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/SpamAssassin-Integration-tp28903365p28903365.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: RTF casino spams
On 16.6.2010 14:54, RW wrote: On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:11:26 +0200 Marcus li...@localguru.de wrote: Helo, could someone send me a working rule against these empty emails with RTF attchments, which contains links to online casinos? Karsten Bräckelmann posted a useful rule for rtf spams http://www.mail-archive.com/users@spamassassin.apache.org/msg73382.html I just wish the author of ExtractText plugin had the time to get the plugin to work with 3.1.1. Also I think some of the binaries the plugin calls are broken. It was pdf2text I think did not accept the arguments the plugin is passing to it, no matter that that they are documented. It fails with the output file name - for stdout. Also the plugin parameters for unrtf look suspcious for me. unrtf -t ExtractText.tags --nopict just-testing.rtf The argument for -t should be text/html etc. according to docs. ExtractText.tags or some other file name is not documented to work. Somehow it still not report any error codes when used like that, but the ExtractText plugin says and error code was returned. No idea why is that. unrtf outputs html with those parameters, and exit code is 0. I miss ExtractText. Would be cool to get the text for bayes and uribl. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. No violence, gentlemen -- no violence, I beg of you! Consider the furniture! -- Sherlock Holmes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: SpamAssassin Integration
On 16.6.2010 17:18, Gnanam wrote: Hi, I want to integrate SpamAssassin in my web-based application to test spam score of the email content that our application User's wish to send in mail composing page itself - even before sending. When I say mail composing page here, it is not an email client like Outlook, Outlook Express, etc. but rather it is a regular/normal web-based form with HTML editor. How do I integrate SpamAssassin for my Use Case explained above? Relevant documentation links on the same are appreciated. You need to prepare a valid looking email message from the text the web app produces. It needs all the required headers before the actual body of text to work. You may need to study SMTP RFC's to get it right, the simple looking headers like Date: and Received: need to be carefully crafted after the standards. The just use ProcessBuilder in your Java app to connect to spamc and pass the message for it, and read the results. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ I use PGP. If there is an incompatibility problem with your mail client, please contact me. Exercise caution in your daily affairs. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: SpamAssassin Integration
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010, Gnanam wrote: I want to integrate SpamAssassin in my web-based application to test spam score of the email content... If this is your own custom web software, then it is as simple as adding a call to spamassassin (or spamc) in the same area of the script that validates things like the format of e-mail addresses. You can keep it simple and just report spamassassin's exit code, or you could parse the results from SA and pass them back to your user, so that they know what rules were triggered, and how to correct their e-mail. If your web interface is pre-packaged piece of software, then it likely sends mail via your local SMTP server by calling 'sendmail' or an equivalent function that mimics that command. As long as the web client handles SMTP rejections and notifies users of problems sending, you should be able to run spamassassin normally in the context of your outgoing mail server. - Charles
Re: bayes table crashed
Hi, mysqldump: Got error: 145: Table './bayes/bayes_token' is marked as crashed and should be repaired when using LOCK TABLES Anything I need to be aware of? Never use MyISAM tables for Bayes. I am working on migrating bayes here to MySQL, and have found this document: http://www200.pair.com/mecham/spam/debian-spamassassin-sql.html Has anyone followed this document before? Can someone review it briefly for me and give me an idea if it is the best approach to do the migration? Thanks, Alex
Re: SpamAssassin Integration
Hi, On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 07:18:57AM -0700, Gnanam wrote: I want to integrate SpamAssassin in my web-based application to test spam score of the email content that our application User's wish to send in mail composing page itself - even before sending. When I say mail composing page here, it is not an email client like Outlook, Outlook Express, etc. but rather it is a regular/normal web-based form with HTML editor. Would this really help? Could you tell us a bit more about your problem itself? The reason I ask is: the mailbody is a very small part of what is commonly used for antispam measures. Header is added afterwards, IP is not yet known, HELO is not known, no reputation, no RBLs, no phyzor/razor/... It's not easy to get a SA score 5 if anything else is OK (IP reputation/RBLs, DNS, Header, HELO, ...) - just try yourself (spamassassin -t testmail). So - in my eyes - body-testing will give you little benefit - at least as long you are not developing a spam toolkit. -- Regards Frank
Re: SA not filtering on distribution lists??!
Well I have a bit more info on this now. The problem goes away IF I put the aliases as usernames into the password file For example: tedm - in password file eatme - not in password file /etc/mail/aliases eatme: tedm problem happens. tedm - in password file eatme - ALSO in password file /etc/mail/aliases eatme: tedm problem DOES NOT happen. I am suspecting something in how spamd is passing data to spamass-milter though the socket. spamd complains in the log when the userID doesen't exist: spamd: handle_user unable to find user: eatme even though the userID is in the alias file. Whenever I see that complaint then I see the following a bit later in the log: ail sm-mta[88401]: o5GIG91G088401: Milter delete: header X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required= ail sm-mta[88401]: o5GIG91G088401: Milter delete: header X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2 and while the message is delivered, it is lacking any evidence that it has been checked with Spamassassin, (no headers) even though /var/log/maillog clearly showed that it was. I have another mailserver configured with the same version of spamassassin, AND spamass-milter that does NOT do this. However, the problem server is FreeBSD 6.2 and the other server is FreeBSD 7.3 plus newer versions of all the perl modules that are used by SA, as well as sendmail version 8.14.4 on the newer server, so the milter libraries are newer. Ted On 6/15/2010 12:11 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: spamass-milter Ted On 6/15/2010 11:55 AM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: On 15.6.2010 21:31, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Hi All, OK I thought I knew SA but I have a strange one here that is probably due to a configuration directive set wrong, but I don't know what it is. System is running sendmail and SA 3.2.5 mails sent to user e-mail addresses get checked, and get the X-Spam-Status header placed in them. Mails sent to a e-mail distribution list (ie: sa...@example.com) do not get checked. any suggestions? SpamAssassin does no make any difference about sa...@example.com and other addresses. It scans all mail passed to it. If some mail is not passed to SpamAssassin, the decision to not scan is made in software that is responsible starting SpamAssassin (in form or spamc or spamassassin executables, or Mail::SpamAssassin perl library code). What is initiating SpamAssassin in your setup?
Re: SA not filtering on distribution lists??!
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 12:14 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Well I have a bit more info on this now. The problem goes away IF I put the aliases as usernames into the password file What you've demonstrated is that this is an MTA problem whose implications depend critically on when and how the MTA uses the aliases file in conjunction with the collection of known valid mail destinations to determine whether mail is deliverable. In particular, can matter whether this is before or after calling the milter/invoking SA. For example: tedm - in password file eatme - not in password file /etc/mail/aliases eatme: tedm problem happens. tedm - in password file eatme - ALSO in password file /etc/mail/aliases eatme: tedm problem DOES NOT happen. It appears from this that your MTA calls the milter BEFORE using aliases to determine the message's destination. Other MTAs may get a different result by calling the milter after the aliases translation chain has been completed. I am suspecting something in how spamd is passing data to spamass-milter though the socket. It matters a lot whether this is done before or after the message is passed to SA via the milter. IOW, if the deliverability check is done before the milter is called, SA will never see undeliverable mail. Its nothing to do with the way spamc/spamd work - they can only handle messages that are passed to them and don't have any ability to skip a message except on size grounds. spamd complains in the log when the userID doesen't exist: spamd: handle_user unable to find user: eatme This sounds like a combined MTA/milter thing. If the MTA passes the message to SA before it has used aliases to determine where the message is to be delivered *AND* your milter is running SA under the destination user then of course you'll see SA fail to process the message. This is not for some internal SA quirk, but because the OS prevents it from running under a non-existent user or one that won't grant it permission to execute. even though the userID is in the alias file. Whenever I see that complaint then I see the following a bit later in the log: ail sm-mta[88401]: o5GIG91G088401: Milter delete: header X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required= ail sm-mta[88401]: o5GIG91G088401: Milter delete: header X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2 and while the message is delivered, it is lacking any evidence that it has been checked with Spamassassin, (no headers) even though /var/log/maillog clearly showed that it was. What you're seeing is the milter cleaning up after spamd was unable to run as the requested user. Martin
Re: SA not filtering on distribution lists??!
On 6/16/2010 1:15 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 12:14 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Well I have a bit more info on this now. The problem goes away IF I put the aliases as usernames into the password file What you've demonstrated is that this is an MTA problem whose implications depend critically on when and how the MTA uses the aliases file in conjunction with the collection of known valid mail destinations to determine whether mail is deliverable. In particular, can matter whether this is before or after calling the milter/invoking SA. For example: tedm - in password file eatme - not in password file /etc/mail/aliases eatme: tedm problem happens. tedm - in password file eatme - ALSO in password file /etc/mail/aliases eatme: tedm problem DOES NOT happen. It appears from this that your MTA calls the milter BEFORE using aliases to determine the message's destination. Other MTAs may get a different result by calling the milter after the aliases translation chain has been completed. I am suspecting something in how spamd is passing data to spamass-milter though the socket. It matters a lot whether this is done before or after the message is passed to SA via the milter. IOW, if the deliverability check is done before the milter is called, SA will never see undeliverable mail. Its nothing to do with the way spamc/spamd work - they can only handle messages that are passed to them and don't have any ability to skip a message except on size grounds. spamd complains in the log when the userID doesen't exist: spamd: handle_user unable to find user: eatme This sounds like a combined MTA/milter thing. If the MTA passes the message to SA before it has used aliases to determine where the message is to be delivered *AND* your milter is running SA under the destination user then of course you'll see SA fail to process the message. This is not for some internal SA quirk, but because the OS prevents it from running under a non-existent user or one that won't grant it permission to execute. OK after rereading the docs for spamass-milter and your explanation I think the light dawned. Here's the invocation of spamass-milter on the working server: /usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -f -p /var/run/spamass-milter.sock And here is the invocation on the non-working server: /usr/local/sbin/spamass-milter -f -u root -p /var/run/spamass-milter.sock When I first setup spamass-milter I read the man page where it said: -u defaultuser Pass the username part of the first recipient to spamc with the -u flag. This allows user preferences files to be used. If the message is addressed to multiple recipients, the username defaultuser is passed instead. Note that spamass-milter does not know whether an email is incom- ing or outgoing, so a message from us...@localdomain.com to us...@yahoo.com will make spamass-milter pass -u user2 to spamc. I interpreted the -u root as a forced username, meaning any messages passed to spamc would contain root as their username, the idea being that since many recipient userID wouldn't exist (as the case with both an outbound user and an alias entry) it would provide a default user ID for the scoring, as well as insure that everything runs under the root userID But instead this is a polymorphic option basically meaning the exact opposite. From the looks of it, normally WITHOUT this userID, spamass-milter runs everything under the root userID. This is what you want if the mailserver is being used as both an incoming and outgoing mailserver. With this option, if the message recipient username portion happens to match a userID on the mailserver, then spamass-milter apparently runs spamc under that UID and uses that users score file/bays file, etc. This is great if the server is a destination server not used for outbound relays. Of course, you have the problem of aliases - but you either do what I did which is create a UID for each alias entry or you just don't use aliases at all. What is dumb, though is that spamass-milter is basically locked to sendmail (since no other MTA implements a milter interface, although I think that one other one out there is beginning to) and sendmail does alias expansions and comma expansions AFTER the milter is run - thus you would never get a situation of multiple recipients being passed to the milter unless the mail originated from the localhost server itself (very unlikely since even clients like Pine which are intended to run on the server, pass the mail via smtp to the localhost) Arr! Damn man pages! Ted even though the userID is in the alias file. Whenever I see that complaint then I see the following a bit later in the log: ail sm-mta[88401]: o5GIG91G088401: Milter delete: header X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required= ail sm-mta[88401]: o5GIG91G088401: Milter delete: header
Re: SA not filtering on distribution lists??!
On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 15:27 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: OK after rereading the docs for spamass-milter and your explanation I think the light dawned. Yep, your view looks right. I can't say more because once I got a look at sendmail configuration and saw the huge chunks missing from the O'Reilly Sendmail book I headed straight for Postfix. Of course, you have the problem of aliases - but you either do what I did which is create a UID for each alias entry or you just don't use aliases at all. They're useful: I redirect all root's mail to my usual mailbox and sweep up a bit of other stuff such as cron mail and mandatory mail and web usernames, so in a normal day I don't need to visit root at all. What is dumb, though is that spamass-milter is basically locked to sendmail (since no other MTA implements a milter interface, although I think that one other one out there is beginning to) and sendmail does alias expansions and comma expansions AFTER the milter is run - thus you would never get a situation of multiple recipients being passed to the milter unless the mail originated from the localhost To me the real problem is that, by calling spamass-milter before applying alias translation you are prevented from using aliases to allow users like postmaster, abuse and webmaster to be nonexistent by redirecting them to root or a single dedicated user and still be able to use spamass-milter's -u option for per-user SA rules. Thats also a situation where per-user SA preferences could be rather useful. server itself (very unlikely since even clients like Pine which are intended to run on the server, pass the mail via smtp to the localhost) Que? Surely an inbound message addressed To: j...@example.com, m...@example.com, s...@example.com would cause spamd to be run under the user specified with -u. However, I agree that -u wasn't a good option to use since it usually means use this user. Martin
Re: SpamAssassin Integration
If this is your own custom web software, then it is as simple as adding a call to spamassassin (or spamc) in the same area of the script that validates things like the format of e-mail addresses. I want to do spam score test for only the email content part of the email message. In that case, is it possible to call spamassassin or spamc? Based on spamc documentation here http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.1.x/doc/spamc.html, it accepts only email message as it command-line argument. Is it possible to pass .html, .txt extension file types, since I want to get spam score of the email content part only and not the entire email message itself? If your web interface is pre-packaged piece of software, then it likely sends mail via your local SMTP server by calling 'sendmail' or an equivalent function that mimics that command. As long as the web client handles SMTP rejections and notifies users of problems sending, you should be able to run spamassassin normally in the context of your outgoing mail server. Mine is our own custom web software except that we've signed-up with a third-party SMTP service provider to send emails, so this SMTP server is completely managed and maintained by this third-party. Yes, as you rightly said, spamassassin is already running/integrated with this third-party SMTP mail service provider. What we want to achieve in our application is that before actually sending mails, Users themselves can run spam score test on one portion of their email message, that is their email content part. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/SpamAssassin-Integration-tp28903365p28910672.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
