Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-29 Thread Jason Haar
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: ... and I thought I explained it in the sentence before. Since DNS lookup is not made by MTA and SA expects it to be, the case where the RDNS is not in Received: is taken as there is not rdns. Since there is verison's HELO but not RDNS, it's

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-29 Thread mouss
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: [snip] IIRC there was already case provided when MTA didn' dns lookup so it was made to be done via SA (and afaik SA did it before). If my memory is correct, this would be just another case (sorry, no time to search archives/bugs/google by now) yes, it is

Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread thadcoco
Hi All, My server CentOS 4, Sendmail, MailScanner (SA ClamAV) is being buried by spoofed emails that are bounced back to my domain by the recipient's servers. Virtually all these emails are being sent from a zombie at a single IP. i.e.: All the messages contain the following line somewhere

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Evan Platt
In postfix I have /etc/postfix/header_checks /x.x.x.x/DROP I'm sure sendmail has something similar? thadcoco wrote: Hi All, My server CentOS 4, Sendmail, MailScanner (SA ClamAV) is being buried by spoofed emails that are bounced back to my domain by the recipient's servers. Virtually

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Nigel Frankcom
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT), thadcoco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, My server CentOS 4, Sendmail, MailScanner (SA ClamAV) is being buried by spoofed emails that are bounced back to my domain by the recipient's servers. Virtually all these emails are being sent from a zombie at

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:07:58 -0700 (PDT), thadcoco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you not block them at your router or firewall? Then they are not taking up threads either. It's how I deal with heavy hitters. Nigel I understood that the d04m-89-83-98-193.d4.club-internet.fr was the

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Joseph Brennan
--On Sunday, June 29, 2008 7:07 AM -0700 thadcoco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i.e.: All the messages contain the following line somewhere within: Received: from d04m-89-83-98-193.d4.club-internet.fr ([89.83.98.193]) I can't figure out how to mark any messages that originally sourced from

RBLs and Freemail Forwards

2008-06-29 Thread decoder
Hello, on our private mail server we now have quite some forwards from freemail providers like yahoo, gmx and such. This wasn't a big problem previously but there is quite some spam arriving now over those forwards that isn't tagged as such (mainly I think because RBLs can't strike on

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread thadcoco
Nigel Frankcom-2 wrote: Can you not block them at your router or firewall? Then they are not taking up threads either. It's how I deal with heavy hitters. Nigel No, I wish I could, but these bounced emails are not coming To Me from a single IP. It goes like this: 1. Some doofus'

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! i.e.: All the messages contain the following line somewhere within: Received: from d04m-89-83-98-193.d4.club-internet.fr ([89.83.98.193]) I can't figure out how to mark any messages that originally sourced from that IP so that that can be dropped by Procmail (that approach would appears to

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread thadcoco
Joseph Brennan wrote: Why not just tell procmail to drop them? : 0 * ^Received: .* 89.83.98.193 /dev/null Joseph Brennan Columbia University Information Technology I just tried, but it doesn't work either. Recall that the nasty IP is wrapped as part of an attachment. I need to

Re: how to stop SPF checks from going past trusted host?

2008-06-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: IIRC there was already case provided when MTA didn' dns lookup so it was made to be done via SA (and afaik SA did it before). If my memory is correct, this would be just another case (sorry, no time to search archives/bugs/google by now) On 29.06.08 16:04, mouss

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread thadcoco
Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: Hi! And exactly why dont you block those on your MTA? Bit waste on CPU cycles like this... first process then, and then trash it anyway. Bye, Raymond. Well, mostly because I don't have any idea how to do so at the MTA level and also I would think it would

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! And exactly why dont you block those on your MTA? Bit waste on CPU cycles like this... first process then, and then trash it anyway. Well, mostly because I don't have any idea how to do so at the MTA level and also I would think it would be harder to add other offending IPs in the

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread mouss
thadcoco wrote: Hi All, My server CentOS 4, Sendmail, MailScanner (SA ClamAV) is being buried by spoofed emails that are bounced back to my domain by the recipient's servers. Virtually all these emails are being sent from a zombie at a single IP. i.e.: All the messages contain the following

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 10:55 -0700, thadcoco wrote: While if I can make this work at the procmail level, I would think it would be better to use SA, because rules can be tested more easily using --lint. Thoughts? Where you do it depends on what tool chain you're using. Since you want to

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread John Hardin
On Sun, 2008-06-29 at 20:44 +0200, Raymond Dijkxhoorn wrote: And exactly why dont you block those on your MTA? Bit waste on CPU cycles like this... first process then, and then trash it anyway. Well, mostly because I don't have any idea how to do so at the MTA level and also I would

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! You can even drop the IP with a route command. Do: route add -host ip reject Not if the IP address you want to block is several MTA relay hops removed from you. Ok. I think i missed that ;) Bye, Raymond.

Re: RBLs and Freemail Forwards

2008-06-29 Thread Matt Kettler
decoder wrote: Hello, on our private mail server we now have quite some forwards from freemail providers like yahoo, gmx and such. This wasn't a big problem previously but there is quite some spam arriving now over those forwards that isn't tagged as such (mainly I think because RBLs can't

Re: RBLs and Freemail Forwards

2008-06-29 Thread decoder
Matt Kettler wrote: Nearly all positive-score RBLs will check all untrusted hosts in Received: headers, except the DUL RBLs and XBL which only check the first untrusted because they are designed to be used in that manner. ie: SBL will be tested against *ALL* untrusted hosts, including the IP

Re: RBLs and Freemail Forwards

2008-06-29 Thread Matt Kettler
decoder wrote: Matt Kettler wrote: Nearly all positive-score RBLs will check all untrusted hosts in Received: headers, except the DUL RBLs and XBL which only check the first untrusted because they are designed to be used in that manner. ie: SBL will be tested against *ALL* untrusted hosts,

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread thadcoco
John Hardin wrote: Another alternative if you're using sendmail is to use milter-regex to look for that IP in a Received: header and reject the message with a 550 at SMTP time. -- That would certainly appear to be the best solution so far. However, I can't get milter-regex to make on

Re: Being Buried In Returned Email - Need To Mark Certain IPs

2008-06-29 Thread jdow
body TEMP_BLOCKADE/Received: from d04m-89-83-98-193\.d4\.club-internet\.fr \(\[89\.83\.98\.193\]\)/ describe TEMP_BLOCKADE Temporary blockade of club-internet.fr joe job score TEMP_BLOCKADE 15 This might be enough to be unambiguous. body TEMP_BLOCKADE/Received: from