Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread ram
On Wed, 2010-03-10 at 13:37 -0600, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: We seem to be having a problem where clients that we interact with regularly are having their hotmail/gmail/yahoo accounts hijacked. We are receiving e-mails from their accounts that legitimately go through the correct servers

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 08:15 +0200, Henrik K wrote: Why don't you simply maintain your wordlists in some files and use a script to generate portmanteau.cf? You could use Regexp::Assemble module to optimize also. Who cares what the actual rules look like? The more words (simple alternations)

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread Bowie Bailey
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 08:15 +0200, Henrik K wrote: Why don't you simply maintain your wordlists in some files and use a script to generate portmanteau.cf? You could use Regexp::Assemble module to optimize also. Who cares what the actual rules look like? The more

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread Henrik K
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 01:52:01PM +, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 08:15 +0200, Henrik K wrote: Why don't you simply maintain your wordlists in some files and use a script to generate portmanteau.cf? You could use Regexp::Assemble module to optimize also. Who cares

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread RW
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:11:37 + Martin Gregorie mar...@gregorie.org wrote: - am I right about all regexes in a portmanteau rule being applied to every message? I would presume not and that meta-rules short-circuit the way that logical expressions do in perl. It shouldn't make much

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread d . hill
Quoting Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com: Martin Gregorie wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 08:15 +0200, Henrik K wrote: Why don't you simply maintain your wordlists in some files and use a script to generate portmanteau.cf? You could use Regexp::Assemble module to optimize also. Who cares what

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 16:27 +0200, Henrik K wrote: If you have enough words to require multiple REs, then sorting doesn't hurt. So the start boundaries for a single RE to catch on are minimized. OK, so there are benefits if every alternate in a regex starts with the same letter? Almost

URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Ray Dzek
I just received the dreaded URIBL You send us to many DNS queries notice. This is fine. We have been growing and I am sure our queries have gone up. But when looking at their data feed service options the first thing I noticed was that there is no fee structure. I don't know about you, but

Re: A possibly suspect idea

2010-03-12 Thread Bowie Bailey
Martin Gregorie wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 16:27 +0200, Henrik K wrote: If you have enough words to require multiple REs, then sorting doesn't hurt. So the start boundaries for a single RE to catch on are minimized. OK, so there are benefits if every alternate in a regex starts

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Brian
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 07:48 -0800, Ray Dzek wrote: I just received the dreaded URIBL “You send us to many DNS queries” notice. This is fine. We have been growing and I am sure our queries have gone up. But when looking at their data feed service options the first thing I noticed was that

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Steve Freegard
On 12/03/10 15:48, Ray Dzek wrote: I just received the dreaded URIBL “You send us to many DNS queries” notice. This is fine. We have been growing and I am sure our queries have gone up. But when looking at their data feed service options the first thing I noticed was that there is no fee

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
describe FORGED_HOTMAIL Hotmail with non-Hotmail Reply-to address header __FORGED_HM1 From ~= /\...@hotmail\.com/i header __FORGED_HM2 Reply-to ~= /\...@hotmail\.com/i meta FORGED_HOTMAIL (__FORGED_HM1 !__FORGED_HM2) scoreFORGED_HOTMAIL 5.0 and write cookie

return-path program

2010-03-12 Thread Alexandre Chapellon
Hello, I would like to know if someone here is part of the returnpath.net (http://www.returnpath.net/emailserviceprovider/certification/) certification program? Does it really increase deliverability of email and to which MSP? What are the necessary steps to get into that program and is it free

Re: [sa] Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Charles Gregory
On Fri, 12 Mar 2010, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: describe FORGED_YAHOO Yahoo with non-Yahoo Reply-to address header __FORGED_YH1 From =~ /\...@yahoo\.com/i header __FORGED_YH2 Reply-to =~ /\...@yahoo\.com/i meta FORGED_YAHOO (__FORGED_YH1 !__FORGED_YH2) The problem with this

Re: [sa] Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
The problem with this is that the !__FORGED_YH2 matches when there is *NO* Reply-To header at all! You need something like this: header __FORGED_YH2 Reply-To =~ /\@([^y]|y[^a]|ya[^h]|yah[^o])/i meta FORGED_YAHOO (__FORGED_YH1 __FORGED_YH2) (remove the negation from the meta)

Re: [sa] Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 12:52 -0600, Dennis B. Hopp wrote: The problem with this is that the !__FORGED_YH2 matches when there is *NO* Reply-To header at all! You need something like this: header __FORGED_YH2 Reply-To =~ /\@([^y]|y[^a]|ya[^h]|yah[^o])/i meta FORGED_YAHOO

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 2010-03-12 16:48, Ray Dzek wrote: I just received the dreaded URIBL You send us to many DNS queries notice. This is fine. We have been growing and I am sure our queries have gone up. But when looking at their data feed service options the first thing I noticed was that there is no fee

RBLs not run when dns_available=yes?

2010-03-12 Thread Jeff_47
I have an odd situation - it seems like I must be missing something but I don't know what. In my local.cf, I had the following lines: dns_available yes skip_rbl_checks 0 I noticed that no RBL checks were being run. If I change dns_available to test or comment out the line (same function), now

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Rob McEwen
Yet Another Ninja wrote: These stats are for small trap box which only accepts mail from bots and rejects stuff listed by DNSWL and other public WLs. Since midnight CET- These are only URI BL tats - so you woun't see other dnsbls like Spamcop, etc. Alex, about those stats... (1) Do those

Re: RBLs not run when dns_available=yes?

2010-03-12 Thread d . hill
Quoting Jeff_47 pyt...@finity.org: I have an odd situation - it seems like I must be missing something but I don't know what. In my local.cf, I had the following lines: dns_available yes skip_rbl_checks 0 I noticed that no RBL checks were being run. If I change dns_available to test or

Re: My First Spam Mail Today

2010-03-12 Thread Carlos Mennens
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Martin Gregorie mar...@gregorie.org wrote: They'd normally be in local.cf and are needed for any of the URIBL etc blacklists to work correctly. See: http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.2.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#network_test_options I guess I am

Re: RBLs not run when dns_available=yes?

2010-03-12 Thread Jeff_47
d.hill wrote: Quoting Jeff_47: I have an odd situation - it seems like I must be missing something but I don't know what. In my local.cf, I had the following lines: dns_available yes skip_rbl_checks 0 I noticed that no RBL checks were being run. If I change dns_available to test

Re: RBLs not run when dns_available=yes?

2010-03-12 Thread d . hill
Quoting Jeff_47 pyt...@finity.org: d.hill wrote: Quoting Jeff_47: I have an odd situation - it seems like I must be missing something but I don't know what. In my local.cf, I had the following lines: dns_available yes skip_rbl_checks 0 I noticed that no RBL checks were being run. If I

Re: My First Spam Mail Today

2010-03-12 Thread Dennis B. Hopp
My headers look like: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.0 (2010-01-18) on mail.iamghost.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.0 required=6.3 tests=EXTRA_MPART_TYPE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=3.3.0 * The message scored a 1.0 (score=1.0) but the

Re: RBLs not run when dns_available=yes?

2010-03-12 Thread Jeff_47
d.hill wrote: Have you attempted doing a local (on your server) lookup of the IP address in question? What DNS servers are your server using for resolution? It turns out your comment about a DNS problem on my server was spot-on. The first ns was down - apparently if 'dns_available

Re: My First Spam Mail Today

2010-03-12 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 14:28 -0500, Carlos Mennens wrote: I guess I am still lost. SA appears to be working and everything looks fine however my emails don't appear to be getting a score and I don't understand how that link applies to why SA isn't setting a score on my messages when it is

Re: [sa] Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 13:19 -0500, Charles Gregory wrote: describe FORGED_YAHOO Yahoo with non-Yahoo Reply-to address header __FORGED_YH1 From =~ /\...@yahoo\.com/i header __FORGED_YH2 Reply-to =~ /\...@yahoo\.com/i meta FORGED_YAHOO (__FORGED_YH1 !__FORGED_YH2)

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 2010-03-12 20:23, Rob McEwen wrote: Yet Another Ninja wrote: These stats are for small trap box which only accepts mail from bots and rejects stuff listed by DNSWL and other public WLs. Since midnight CET- These are only URI BL tats - so you woun't see other dnsbls like Spamcop, etc. Alex,

RDNS_NONE

2010-03-12 Thread Christian Gregoire
Hello, Using SA 3.3.0. Any reason why RDNS_NONE now scores 1.3, when it was down to 0.1 with the previous releases ? The below headers trigger the rule only because the remote LAN SMTP client, with IP 10.10.3.3, has no rDNS. Received: from my.public.name ([public_IP] helo=john.fr) by

Re: RDNS_NONE

2010-03-12 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 22:57 +, Christian Gregoire wrote: Using SA 3.3.0. Any reason why RDNS_NONE now scores 1.3, when it was down to 0.1 with the previous releases ? The score was pretty much informational only previously and arbitrarily set. The current score is what the mass-checks and

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Rob McEwen
Yet Another Ninja wrote: there are no users - its trap domains which have never had any real users - ever. no prefiltering except rejecting potential bounces and stuff leaking from whatever may be on DNSWL and a coupleof other WLs. Alex, Your stats are certainly valuable and

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 2010-03-13 0:50, Rob McEwen wrote: Yet Another Ninja wrote: there are no users - its trap domains which have never had any real users - ever. no prefiltering except rejecting potential bounces and stuff leaking from whatever may be on DNSWL and a coupleof other WLs. Alex, Your

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 18:50 -0500, Rob McEwen wrote: Your stats are certainly valuable and illustrative... but not reflective of the stats one would see in a MOST real world mail streams where: (A) the spams were sent to actual users (which would be a distinctively different mix of spams

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Chris Owen
On Mar 12, 2010, at 6:17 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Just for comparison, below are some stats gathered quickly from 2 different and entirely unrelated systems. Real mail stream, real users only, no traps. Here are mine from yesterday while we are at it:

Re: URIBL Notice

2010-03-12 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 01:17 +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: RANKRULE NAME COUNT %OFMAIL %OFSPAM %OFHAM -- 8 URIBL_BLACK 57241.12 78.360.00

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 2010-03-12 13:38:57, schrieb Benny Pedersen: On tor 11 mar 2010 19:52:01 CET, Michelle Konzack wrote I mean, on one of my domains tdwave.net it should be ALWAYS the same From: and Reply-To:. i have a plugin that does this, contact me offlist if you like to have it, its alpha

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 2010-03-12 18:24:14, schrieb ram: Why only free accounts , The 419'ers hijack legitimate corporate accounts too. Again , As Ips have good reputation and the mails land in the inbox I think the only way of handling this to send proper abuse reports Probably the free mail

Re: Low scores

2010-03-12 Thread Julian Yap
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 7:58 AM, micah anderson mi...@riseup.net wrote: On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 11:56:56 -1000, Julian Yap julianok...@gmail.com wrote: Just wanted to add that this particular line is incorrect: meta SC_HAM (USER_IN_WHITELIST||USER_IN_DEF_WHITELIST||

Re: RDNS_NONE

2010-03-12 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, Am 2010-03-12 22:57:47, schrieb Christian Gregoire: The below headers trigger the rule only because the remote LAN SMTP client, with IP 10.10.3.3, has no rDNS. Received: from my.public.name ([public_IP] helo=john.fr) by mymta.fr with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) id

Re: Bogus mails from hijacked accounts

2010-03-12 Thread hamann . w
Michelle Konzack wrote: I mean exactly, IF Reply-To: is set, verify, that it match the sender, otherwise reject if it does not match From:. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network Debian