Re: Bayes db and token expiry questions

2010-03-29 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Alex wrote on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:38:25 -0400: I have a bayes db that's about 160MB with a 40MB token db on a system with about 100k messages per day. Well, what's the missing 120 MB? The journal? Do a complete sync and then delete it. I've just raised the max_db_size set to 1.1M tokens

Re: Bayes db and token expiry questions

2010-03-29 Thread RW
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:03:59 +0200 Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote: Alex wrote on Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:38:25 -0400: I have a bayes db that's about 160MB with a 40MB token db on a system with about 100k messages per day. Well, what's the missing 120 MB? The journal? Do a

trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Kaleb Hosie
I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 In postfix, I need to have spamassassin listed under smtpd_recipient_restrictions so that it will only scan incoming emails however it would be handy to get this option working if at

Re: trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 11:40 -0400, Kaleb Hosie wrote: I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 When I try to use this option; I login through telnet port 25, and send the test spam string (from the 10.0.1.0 subnet) it

RE: trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Kaleb Hosie
On 29.3.2010 18:40, Kaleb Hosie wrote: I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 In postfix, I need to have spamassassin listed under smtpd_recipient_restrictions so that it will only scan incoming emails however it

ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Charles Gregory
Literally, Mega-Spam. I just got a spam with 1MB of images. My suggestion has been made before, but I would like to ask that it now be taken a bit more seriously. SA needs an option to allow efficient 'partial' scanning of large e-mails, so that, for example, we can peform all the valuable

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 3/29/10 1:09 PM, Charles Gregory wrote: Literally, Mega-Spam. I just got a spam with 1MB of images. My suggestion has been made before, but I would like to ask that it now be taken a bit more seriously. SA needs an option to allow efficient 'partial' scanning of large e-mails, so that,

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Aw, is that shouting really necessary? Oh, yes, it is indeed -- you are trying to get heard over on the dev list, so you need to be quite loud from here... ;) The dev list is what you want. On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:09 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: Literally, Mega-Spam. I just got a spam with

FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT score

2010-03-29 Thread Jason Bertoch
I recently received a FP report on an e-mail that hit on, among other things, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT. This rule has a score of 1.6, which seems maybe a little high. Henrik mentioned the same thing in comment 185 [1] of Bug 6155 which is closed as resolved/fixed. The assumption was that

spamc syslog loglevel for skipped message, greater than max message size

2010-03-29 Thread mailinglists
Hi why does spamc[28825]: [ID 702911 mail.error] skipped message, greater than max message size (512000 bytes) have to be log level error? Instead of error would warn not be enough? thanks, Philipp

Re: spamc syslog loglevel for skipped message, greater than max message size

2010-03-29 Thread Mark Martinec
Philipp, why does spamc[28825]: [ID 702911 mail.error] skipped message, greater than max message size (512000 bytes) have to be log level error? Instead of error would warn not be enough? That was fixed in 3.3.0: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=5325 Mark

Re: FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT score

2010-03-29 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 3/29/10 1:52 PM, Jason Bertoch wrote: I recently received a FP report on an e-mail that hit on, among other things, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT. This rule has a score of 1.6, which seems maybe a little high. Henrik mentioned the same thing in comment 185 [1] of Bug 6155 which is closed as

Re: FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT score

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 13:52 -0400, Jason Bertoch wrote: I recently received a FP report on an e-mail that hit on, among other things, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT. This rule has a score of 1.6, which seems maybe a little high. Henrik mentioned the same thing in comment 185 [1] of Bug 6155

Re: Sought Rules Back?

2010-03-29 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 2010/02/01 10:30 AM, Mark Martinec wrote: Update returned sought rules 1/31/2010. Actually back since Jan 6. :) Re-viewed about 1k fraud spam the following days, for the Sought Fraud sub-set. Btw, the three rules JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD_{1,2,3} have a score of zero as per Justin's request (Bug

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Brent Kennedy
Wow, I knew this was coming at some point. I just figured it was too expensive. My suggestion would be to use graylisting, force them to send that 1MB message twice. Course zombie bots don't do that generally, so you would never even have to deal with it. You could also use the botnet

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 16:23 -0400, Brent Kennedy wrote: Wow, I knew this was coming at some point. I just figured it was too expensive. You did read the entire thread, right? :) There's nothing new about this. Moreover, this still is a rare occurrence. Note even Charles, who started this

Re: Sought Rules Back?

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 16:05 -0400, Jason Bertoch wrote: Btw, the three rules JM_SOUGHT_FRAUD_{1,2,3} have a score of zero as per Justin's request (Bug 6155 c 38, c72, c89, c124). Not sure if people using the channel realize that scores need to be bumped up. Btw, I prefer to avoid them

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Charles Gregory
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: You did read the entire thread, right? :) There's nothing new about this. Moreover, this still is a rare occurrence. Note even Charles, who started this thread, claims to have received *one* such spam. And it appears to be his first. ;) Last

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Mathias Homann
Am Montag 29 März 2010 schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann: On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 16:23 -0400, Brent Kennedy wrote: Wow, I knew this was coming at some point. I just figured it was too expensive. You did read the entire thread, right? :) There's nothing new about this. Moreover, this still is a

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 16:57 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: The spams I've seen so far look more 'amateur' than 'pro'. Easily tracable IP's. Blacklistable domains. I'm just throwing my idea into the queue now so that it can be smoothly integrated with a future release. We've got plenty of

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 23:01 +0200, Mathias Homann wrote: I think it has, I get about 2-5 mega spams per day by now. and I can't do greylisting because I have to fetchmail from a central mail server at my hoster that is not under my direct control. And no, moving from a vhost to a root server

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Brent Kennedy wrote: My suggestion would be to use graylisting, force them to send that 1MB message twice. While greylisting will help, it won't spank the offender in that manner. It will postpone the message very early in the SMTP exchange, not after the body has been

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Mark Martinec
We've got plenty of time, but I suggest not waiting until it becomes a big problem before desperately rushing to fix it :) Depends on how one defines where a problem starts to become 'big'. For me the problem of large messages was big enough early last year so that I had to implement a

Re: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Jonas Eckerman
On 2010-03-30 00:12, John Hardin wrote: While greylisting will help, it won't spank the offender in that manner. It will postpone the message very early in the SMTP exchange, not after the body has been received. Unless the greylisting is done *after* receiving the body. Of course, this will

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread Brent Kennedy
Graylisting does work. We have been using SQLGrey (http://sqlgrey.sourceforge.net/) for three years now. The minute I turned it on, spam to my junk email folder(what SA used to catch) dropped by 90%. SQLGrey sits at the MTA level, so it hits the sender when they connect and before they actually

Re: trusted_networks

2010-03-29 Thread Matt Kettler
On 3/29/2010 11:40 AM, Kaleb Hosie wrote: I'm having a problem with the trusted_networks option. Right now I have it set to: trusted_networks 10.0.1/24 In postfix, I need to have spamassassin listed under smtpd_recipient_restrictions so that it will only scan incoming emails however it

RE: ATTN DEVELOPERS: Mega-Spam

2010-03-29 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010, Brent Kennedy wrote: Ya know, this got me thinking. Wonder if I could create a VM with all the settings and a script to customize the setup. Then organizations could just deploy the VM. Sort of an all in one deployment. Just update the VM template every now and then.

Re: Bayes db and token expiry questions

2010-03-29 Thread Alex
Hi, Well, what's the missing 120 MB? The journal? Do a complete sync and then delete it. Probably the signatures in bayes_seen - there's no mechanism for ageing them out. And I assume that isn't a problem then? too big is not an absolute figure. If you store 1-occurence tokens you will