Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
You don't have to run two postfixes for this. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Kai Schaetzl wrote: You don't have to run two postfixes for this. Kai I wasn't suggesting two postfixes, only two smtpds, but what Mariusz said is even easier. /Per Jessen, Zürich

RE: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Rob Sterenborg
On 2010-02-24, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Postfix: I would have two different smtpd daemons - one for You don't have to run two postfixes for this. I think Per means: 2 smtpd processes, not 2 Postfixes.. -- Rob

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Christian Brel wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:02:02 +: So you would reject outbound mail from your domain? I'm sure that's a typo. He just didn't show the full configuration. It's obvious that you put your allowance checks first. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services:

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Christian Brel
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:43 +0100 Rob Sterenborg r.sterenb...@netsourcing.nl wrote: On 2010-02-24, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Postfix: I would have two different smtpd daemons - one for You don't have to run two postfixes for this. I think Per means: 2 smtpd processes, not 2 Postfixes..

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rob Sterenborg wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:43 +0100: I think Per means: 2 smtpd processes, not 2 Postfixes.. and I meant what he meant ;-) Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Wednesday, 24 of February 2010, Per Jessen wrote: I guess you could start hashing things around with IPTables to redirect certain requests, but once you've done all of this, changed all the clients etc. etc, you are saying this would be *easier* than SPF? See Mariusz Kruks suggestion -

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Christian Brel wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:02:02 +: So you would reject outbound mail from your domain? I'm sure that's a typo. He just didn't show the full configuration. It's obvious that you put your allowance checks first. Kai I did also say 'thinking out

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Henrik K
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:30:25AM +, Christian Brel wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:43 +0100 Rob Sterenborg r.sterenb...@netsourcing.nl wrote: On 2010-02-24, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Postfix: I would have two different smtpd daemons - one for You don't have to run two

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Christian Brel wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:43 +0100 Rob Sterenborg r.sterenb...@netsourcing.nl wrote: On 2010-02-24, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Postfix: I would have two different smtpd daemons - one for You don't have to run two postfixes for this. I think Per means: 2 smtpd

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Christian Brel
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:41:29 +0100 Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Christian Brel wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:43 +0100 Rob Sterenborg r.sterenb...@netsourcing.nl wrote: On 2010-02-24, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Postfix: I would have two different smtpd daemons - one for

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Christian Brel
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:38:55 +0200 Henrik K h...@hege.li wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:30:25AM +, Christian Brel wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 11:39:43 +0100 Rob Sterenborg r.sterenb...@netsourcing.nl wrote: On 2010-02-24, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Postfix: I would have two

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Wednesday, 24 of February 2010, Christian Brel wrote: IP yes. I assume your external and internal network are on different IP-ranges. What about my home workers? I don't have a VPN, they hook in by DSL from any number of different providers from outside using SASL/TLS. They should be

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Christian Brel wrote: Humour me. Does this not mean a need to change the outbound to either a different IP or port? IP yes. I assume your external and internal network are on different IP-ranges. What about my home workers? I don't have a VPN, they hook in by DSL from any number of

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Christian Brel
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:37:49 +0100 Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Christian Brel wrote: Humour me. Does this not mean a need to change the outbound to either a different IP or port? IP yes. I assume your external and internal network are on different IP-ranges. What

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Mariusz Kruk
On Wednesday, 24 of February 2010, Christian Brel wrote: No, they submit on 25 using TLS+SASL. Would making the changes to Firewall, MTA, plus potentially thosands of clients be easier than SPF? Would all those angry users screaming because they can't send mail at all be a good thing? I don't

Re: [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Christian Brel wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:39:47 +: What about my home workers? they use SMTP AUTH. It works, believe us. With a standard postfix. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Re: [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Christian Brel wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:37:49 +0100 Per Jessen p...@computer.org wrote: Christian Brel wrote: Humour me. Does this not mean a need to change the outbound to either a different IP or port? IP yes. I assume your external and internal network are on

Re: [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Christian Brel wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:56:49 +: But that would reject *everything* that was not authenticated or in 'my networks'. Indeed, that's the purpose. And it doesn't matter if you get the mail via 25 or 587. 587 is just a convenience. Any other access to use your server for

Re: [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Christian Brel
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:31:19 +0100 Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote: Christian Brel wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:56:49 +: But that would reject *everything* that was not authenticated or in 'my networks'. Indeed, that's the purpose. And it doesn't matter if you get the

Re: [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] [SPAM:9.6] Off Topic - SPF - What a Disaster

2010-02-24 Thread Ned Slider
Christian Brel wrote: On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:31:19 +0100 Kai Schaetzl mailli...@conactive.com wrote: Christian Brel wrote on Wed, 24 Feb 2010 14:56:49 +: But that would reject *everything* that was not authenticated or in 'my networks'. Indeed, that's the purpose. And it doesn't matter