RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-06 Thread Nick Parkes
2010 14:40 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a > lot more pe

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/5/2010 11:28 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: > Basically we are stuck with some legacy application parts that while > these are scheduled to be replaced we have to support them until they > have been. Using filters would not solve the issue as the '

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
this group to see if anyone could suggest a better solution. Thanks for your input. Rob > -Original Message- > From: Maximilian Stocker [mailto:m...@talentoyster.com] > Sent: 05 October 2010 16:03 > To: 'Tomcat Users List' > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers s

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Maximilian Stocker
r. -Original Message- From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 10:51 AM To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. Hi Chris, In Internet Explorer 5.5,6.0 if you opened up two separate browser instances they wou

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Chris, In Internet Explorer 5.5,6.0 if you opened up two separate browser instances they would have two 'un-connected' sessions. As stated by Ronald they would share the session if the 2nd was opened using ctrl-n but otherwise the sessions would be unique. Cookies may have always worked as t

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/5/2010 4:26 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: > Is there any way to dynamically create these contexts or do they > require a live.xml, test.xml, etc within conf/Catalina/localhost. You can use JMX or the manager to deploy an application under any con

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/5/2010 5:03 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: >> Sounds like you need to be pretty careful. Is it possible you've built a >> fragile application? > > Some legacy parts of the application became fragile when the browsers > started sharing sessions and

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] > Sent: 05 October 2010 15:26 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > > I agree, this is a very scary app to support. > > At a minimum, multiple contexts, each with its own database resour

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Jeffrey Janner
ed to "hostname/context"? > -Original Message- > From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:40 AM > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > > > From

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Jeff Hubbs
Our app running on Tomcat 5.0.28 has some kind of kluge involving a flown-in vhosts.xml file in .../conf that uses aliases such that people can have separate sessions of the same app on separate tabs. I have no idea if this is how this should have been done back in the olden days but more impo

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
4:40 > To: Tomcat Users List > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > > > From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] > > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > > > I am surprised this hasn't been a problem f

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
> From: Rob Gregory [mailto:rob.greg...@ibsolutions.com] > Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. > I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a > lot more people. It's not a problem for most because most don't try to run live, test, and tra

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Stephen, The approach we use was described in my original post. If you need more information then I can explain further if it helps. Note, our approach does require a bespoke tomcat request class (to change the session cookie path) and this has not been without teething problems. Are you also u

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Stephen Caine
Rob, The way you describe session sharing is indeed a problem. The way we deal with this is to use a separate database table to keep track of window ids. A unique value is assigned when a window is opened and maintained until the window is closed. Although the session may be the same for all

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Ronald, Yes I was aware of that behaviour... Just for reference Firefox and Google Chrome also share session logic so I am surprised this hasn't been a problem for a lot more people. I am happy that my work around solves the session sharing problem but would still prefer to go down the dynamic

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Ronald Klop
Rob, IE 6 is even more confusing. If you open a new window with ctrl-N you have the same session sharing as with tabs. Only if you click the IE6-icon to start a new instance of the process it will not share them. Opening a new tab in IE7 is like using ctrl-n to open a new window in IE6. Ronal

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Chris, See comments below:- > Rob, > > On 10/4/2010 7:27 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: > > Using the hostname doesn't really guarantee a unique session for example > > if I click new tab and paste the URL into the new window I suspect the > > browser will see the same session from the first tab. > > No

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-05 Thread Rob Gregory
Hi Chris, Is there any way to dynamically create these contexts or do they require a live.xml, test.xml, etc within conf/Catalina/localhost. The multiple contexts would be my preferred approach although I would like to achieve this with a single code base if this is possible. The multiple envir

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rob, On 10/4/2010 7:27 AM, Rob Gregory wrote: > Using the hostname doesn't really guarantee a unique session for example > if I click new tab and paste the URL into the new window I suspect the > browser will see the same session from the first tab.

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ronald, On 10/4/2010 6:11 AM, Ronald Klop wrote: > You can run your test environment on another hostname. > > live.example.com > test.example.com > train.example.com Or under another context: http://www.example.com/live http://www.example.com/test

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Ronald Klop
ssage- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 12:15 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. Hi, Ok. I didn't understand that somebody chooses an environment dynamicly. The JSESSION cookie is tight to a host

Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Ronald Klop
You can run your test environment on another hostname. live.example.com test.example.com train.example.com Maybe use a login.example.com to redirect you to the right url after login. Ronald. Op maandag, 4 oktober 2010 11:03 schreef Rob Gregory : Hi Tomcat community, I'm after advi

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Ronald Klop
onald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 11:12 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. You can run your test environment on another hostname. live.example.com test.example.com train.example.com Maybe use a login.example.com to redir

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Rob Gregory
ver a virtual context as part of the final solution. Kind Regards, Rob -Original Message- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 12:15 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around. Hi, Ok. I didn't understand tha

RE: Tabbed browsers sharing session - work around.

2010-10-04 Thread Rob Gregory
application dynamically creates these environments. The application is not internet facing if that makes a difference. Regards Rob -Original Message- From: Ronald Klop [mailto:ronald-mailingl...@base.nl] Sent: 04 October 2010 11:12 To: Tomcat Users List Subject: Re: Tabbed browsers sharing