Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-17 Thread Ryan
If your building small to medium size applications I could see grails or a CMS fitting your needs. You didn't mention how much you have done with wicket, but I think it takes a while (and a project or two) before you really realize the beauty of its approach to building web applications. I

Re: RE: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-17 Thread Frank van Lankvelt
t; Are there any demo/reference websites that run Hippo CMS or Hippo Portal? > > Original-Nachricht > > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0100 > > Von: "Frank van Lankvelt" > > An: users@wicket.apache.org > > Betreff: RE: Things I miss

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Igor Vaynberg
amental > changes in the core of some Java framework you do not wish to know in > detail.. > > So long... > > Toby > > Original-Nachricht >> Datum: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:46:08 -0500 >> Von: Trevor Burnham >> An: Tobias Marx >>

Re: RE: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
Great! Are there any demo/reference websites that run Hippo CMS or Hippo Portal? Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:12:13 +0100 > Von: "Frank van Lankvelt" > An: users@wicket.apache.org > Betreff: RE: Things I miss in Wicket > Sure th

RE: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Frank van Lankvelt
Frank > -Original Message- > From: Tobias Marx [mailto:superoverdr...@gmx.de] > Sent: 16 January 2009 14:10 > To: users@wicket.apache.org > Subject: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > > Brix only works the way it works because it does not need a > database..with

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
... or conscious design debt... ;) ** Martin 2009/1/16 Johan Compagner : >> An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is never >> touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new features >> necessary > > > where do you live? > > thats not my experience. Yes after a

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Johan Compagner
> An ideal web-application is developed once and the Java code is never > touched again for 3-5 years until there are a lot of new features > necessary where do you live? thats not my experience. Yes after a while the web app code is pretty done but then it did already run for 1 or 2 years i

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread James Carman
On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Tobias Marx wrote: > What about merging Wicket and Tapestry? Similiar to Wicket with Tapestry > templates? > I don't think this would work very well. The Tapestry team's philosophy doesn't really work well with how the Wicket community works. --

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
ouch the Java code there is an > error by design > > > Original-Nachricht >> Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:53:05 +0200 >> Von: Martin Makundi >> An: users@wicket.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > >> All you need i

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
rting from scratch is often the better option in the long-term. Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:59:11 -0500 > Von: Richard Allen > An: users@wicket.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > > > > > > What I don't like ab

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Tobias, I don't agree on a couple of points you made on Wicket. Wicket is providing the GUI and you have to make sure your gluing to the backend is as transparent as it can be. So, if you have your interfaces untouched, you wont need to touch the Java code again for your 3-5 years. Also, wick

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
ing spaghetti. ** Martin > > > > Original-Nachricht >> Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:31:39 +0200 >> Von: Martin Makundi >> An: users@wicket.apache.org >> Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > >> > 3. Pick up components automatically without needing to add t

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
> Von: Martin Makundi > An: users@wicket.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > All you need is a RAD IDE that co-operates well with the typesafe wicket. > > ** > Martin > > 2009/1/16 Tobias Marx : > > I think there already a lot of projects out there

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Richard Allen
> > > What I don't like about Wicket is, that it is like writing normal Java > applications - although rich clients applications are being replaced with > web-based solutions and there is a fundamental difference between > web-applications and normal java applications. If you have a java > applicat

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
thout having to define them in the code or some xml. Original-Nachricht > Datum: Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:31:39 +0200 > Von: Martin Makundi > An: users@wicket.apache.org > Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > > 3. Pick up components automatically without nee

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Martin Makundi
l > changes in the core of some Java framework you do not wish to know in > detail.. > > So long... > > Toby > > Original-Nachricht >> Datum: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:46:08 -0500 >> Von: Trevor Burnham >> An: Tobias Marx >> Betreff:

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Tobias Marx
sh to know in detail.. So long... Toby Original-Nachricht > Datum: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:46:08 -0500 > Von: Trevor Burnham > An: Tobias Marx > Betreff: Re: Things I miss in Wicket > Hi Toby, > > I've been considering creating a new project that woul

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
> Ouch, that is ugly. Now I understand why it is deprecated. It for sure is nothing meant to be used on a day-to-day basis, right. But there are use cases where you're happy it exists. Best regards, --- Jan. - To unsubscribe,

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Erik van Oosten
Jan Kriesten wrote: just replace 'type' with 'class' and you're there. Also, any other attribute you put into the wicket:component tag is looked a setter on the class for, so you can pass parameters in from you html code. Best regards, --- Jan. Ouch, that is ugly. Now I understand why it is

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Erik, > Yep, I did see that. However, it does not describe the type attribute > Pills described: just replace 'type' with 'class' and you're there. Also, any other attribute you put into the wicket:component tag is looked a setter on the class for, so you can pass parameters in from you html

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Erik van Oosten
Yep, I did see that. However, it does not describe the type attribute Pills described: Pills wrote: 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (). let's see what think core developpers Jan Kriesten wrote Hi Erik, Can you point to a place where this is documented? Its not

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Erik, > Can you point to a place where this is documented? Its not on > http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wickets-xhtml-tags.html. actually, it is there. :) ---8<--- Element wicket:component - Creates a Wicket component on the fly. Needs a class attribute. Though this has been in wicket for a

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Erik van Oosten
Hi Jan, Can you point to a place where this is documented? Its not on http://cwiki.apache.org/WICKET/wickets-xhtml-tags.html. Regards, Erik. Jan Kriesten wrote: 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (). let's see what think core developpers hehe - that one alread

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Sébastien Piller
Sure! sorry, missed that one... Well, all requirements were already implemented :D If I were naughty, I would write "rtfm" ;) Jan Kriesten wrote: Hi Sébastien, 1) and 2) are already implemented, or something very close exists. 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag ().

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-16 Thread Jan Kriesten
Hi Sébastien, > 1) and 2) are already implemented, or something very close exists. 3) > may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag > (). let's see what think > core developpers hehe - that one already exists, too! :D Best regards, --- Jan. --

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Martin Makundi
> How are you envisioning this working from within an IDE? This sounds like > an interesting feature to add. Context-sensitive auto-complete, quickfix, ..., there are a lot of examples of suitable functionalities in Eclipse, for example. I have never implemented those, however. We could start ga

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Nick Heudecker
How are you envisioning this working from within an IDE? This sounds like an interesting feature to add. On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Martin Makundi < martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com> wrote: > > 3. Pick up components automatically without needing to add them in the > Java code: > > > > ad

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Martin Makundi
> 3. Pick up components automatically without needing to add them in the Java > code: > > add(new LastPostsPanel("lastPostsPanel")); > add(new NewsPanel("newsPanel")); > > This could be matched automatically This should be accomplished using and IDE, not by default. I would not mind an IDE that c

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Sébastien Piller
Hi, 1) and 2) are already implemented, or something very close exists. 3) may be a good improvement, maybe with a new wicket tag (). let's see what think core developpers 1) you have various way of altering tags and attributes: attributemodifiers, attributeappenders, overriding oncomponentt

Re: Things I miss in Wicket

2009-01-15 Thread Igor Vaynberg
On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 1:44 PM, Tobias Marx wrote: > Hi there! > > There are some things in Wicket I am missing and I think they could improve > the framework a lot. > > But just some small background first: > > In my opinion the most important things in a web application are: > > - as few l