Fw: [libreoffice-users] Re: brochure templates for letter and A4 sizes

2013-02-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
-Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 2:20 PM To: James Knott Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: brochure templates for letter and A4 sizes I'm old enough to remember the push back in the '70s to move to the metric system in Ameri

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: brochure templates for letterand A4 sizes

2013-02-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
Children throughout the world can do it. Even you could! You'll never do it until you determine to do so; the only problem is that you haven't yet tried. You're absolutely right, I haven't tried, because I've had no reason to. My system has worked for me (and my fellow Americans) for my entir

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: brochure templates for letterand A4 sizes

2013-02-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
Do others use Picas? If not, what are you using? Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:46 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: brochure templates for letterand A4 sizes Children throughout the world c

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct setof fonts?

2013-02-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
When I install fonts to my Win7 computer, I just copy the font files to the "C:\windows\fonts" folder using Windows Explorer. I've never had a problem doing it this way. Virgil -Original Message- From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 12:48 PM To: users@global.li

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinct setoffonts?

2013-02-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
y desktop first and Win XP and Win7 on laptops, as needed. On 02/25/2013 01:21 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: When I install fonts to my Win7 computer, I just copy the font files to the "C:\windows\fonts" folder using Windows Explorer. I've never had a problem doing it this way.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why is Impress screwed up with EVERYrelease?

2013-02-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
While I wouldn't call it anger, I was honestly surprised that LO 4.0 *replaced* my previous install of LO 3.6.x. I thought it would install side-by-side. I confess I install these things so quickly, that I may have missed an install option somewhere. But, I concur about some features that work

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why is Impress screwed up with EVERYrelease?

2013-02-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
Believe me, I understand the massive task facing the LO developers, so I won’t complain too loudly if things aren’t perfect. Virgil From: Joel Madero Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:07 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why is Impress screwed up withEVERYrelease?

2013-02-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
ing of how end users perceive their work. Virgil -Original Message- From: Cor Nouws Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:13 PM To: Joel Madero Cc: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why is Impress screwed up withEVERYrelease? Joel Madero

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Why is Impress screwed up withEVERYrelease?

2013-02-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
I'll check it out. If there's a way that I think I can help, I'll be more than happy to do so. Virgil -Original Message- From: Joel Madero Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 6:23 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Does Libre Office have its own distinctsetoffonts?

2013-02-26 Thread Virgil Arrington
nd these other font folders, is make sure I copy the fonts to a "storage" folder and then install them so the rest of the packages can access them. I did that with the LO fonts including the DejaVu ones. On 02/25/2013 05:40 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I should have added my caveat th

Re: [libreoffice-users] "Side notes" aka "Side titles"

2013-03-04 Thread Virgil Arrington
The way I do it is insert a text frame into the margin (Insert/Frame). You can size the frame and move it to your liking. Then, double-click inside the frame and you can insert text. Virgil -Original Message- From: Farlie A Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 8:32 AM To: users@global.libreo

Re: [libreoffice-users] BUG: Writer seems to ignore some "\par" inRTF file

2013-03-15 Thread Virgil Arrington
Interesting discussion. For years, I have been an RTF fan for the very reasons mentioned by Robert. A small word processor I use a lot, called Atlantis, uses RTF as its native format. I also found that nearly every word processor on the planet is able to read RTF files. But, as Robert found an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Filtered html document

2013-03-20 Thread Virgil Arrington
I have played around a lot with converting documents to Kindle format. I have used a couple different methods. 1. With LO, I use the "Save as" command to save the document in an HTML format. Do NOT use the Export to HTML feature as, for whatever reason, the resulting HTML file is not nearly as

Re: [libreoffice-users] Filtered html document

2013-03-21 Thread Virgil Arrington
Thomas wrote: Is there any chance of selecting a certain file, click somewhere and wait until the conversion process completes (automatically)? That is essentially what Calibre does. < http://calibre-ebook.com.> It converts a variety of formats, including EPUB, HTML and ODT directly to Kindl

Re: [libreoffice-users] BUG: Writer seems to ignore some"\par" in RTF file

2013-03-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
Brian wrote, Everyone will have giggled at your original suggestion ("I tend to distrust freeware") in the context of the mailing list for a freeware product. I didn't giggle because I fully understood Tom's distinction between freeware and the open source LO. LO is not a "freeware" product

Re: [libreoffice-users] Text Outlining

2013-03-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
I'm sure it's not quite what you want, but in the Character/Font Effects dialog, you can insert an overline and an underline on the highlighted text. You just don't get the right and left side of the box. Virgil -Original Message- From: Dave Liesse Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 2:15 P

Re: [libreoffice-users] Exclude page numbers from TOC

2013-04-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
This wasn't my problem to begin with, but I just tried Girvin's suggestion for fun and it didn't work for me. I deleted both the "tab" and "page number" entries. Updating the TOC did nothing. I tried deleting the TOC and starting from scratch, this time not including the dot leader tab or the p

Re: [libreoffice-users] Exclude page numbers from TOC

2013-04-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
I redid it with Girvin's reminder to delete the tab and page numbers for each TOC level used in my document. This time it worked, so as I suspected, for me at least, it was user error, or at least user ignorance. Each level in the table of contents is formatted separately. I suppose this is a

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

2013-04-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
Bill, I hate to say it, but that was my experience as well with 4.0. There was an important feature (to me at least) that worked well on 3.6 but no longer worked in 4.0. I found the regression to be especially distressing. I simply uninstalled 4.0, and reinstalled 3.6. If I recall, the uninst

Re: [libreoffice-users] How to downgrade from 4.0.2. to 3.6.6

2013-04-22 Thread Virgil Arrington
Henri wrote: Bill and Virgil, it might be helpful to the developers if you could point out the specific bugs/missing features, etc, that have been causing you problems in 4.0 Henri I did. Virgil -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http:/

[libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-29 Thread Virgil Arrington
I'd like to get some general opinions about paragraph styles. I am a retired lawyer who led a local government law office. When I was working at that office, I tried in vain to get my employees to use paragraph styles. For them, styles were a bother to set up and maintain. I love using them, b

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-29 Thread Virgil Arrington
: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles On 04/29/2013 03:52 PM, T. R. Valentine wrote: On 29 April 2013 13:00, Virgil Arrington wrote: I'd like to get some general opinions about paragraph styles. I am a huge fan of paragraph styles, page styles, and character styles. I wish they were more widely

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-29 Thread Virgil Arrington
Dave and Doug, I appreciate, Dave, hearing your perspective as a true end user. Your sentiments are those I've heard from my employees. They just need to get a brief done and filed, and they don't have time to learn the styles. Doug, obviously, nobody's trying to "force" styles on anyone. Wha

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Virgil Arrington
Several of the posts have brought me to thinking a few random thoughts. 1. There's a difference between *using* styles and *creating/editing* them. In the LyX/LaTeX world, as well as the HTML/CSS world, one is indeed forced to used styles (called "environments" in LaTeX speak) because that's th

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-04-30 Thread Virgil Arrington
Dave asked, Are you implying that if I want to, say, indent one paragraph with no other changes, I should create a new style for that? Seems like a lot of work since it can be done with one mouse clicks (or, if I ever get around to learning how to create shortcut keys, one keystroke combinatio

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles

2013-05-02 Thread Virgil Arrington
Alex wrote, 4. Document collaboration is a real bugaboo. We lawyers share documents repeatedly. I would create a document using styles, and send it off to a colleague for further edits. I would get it back with a mess of styles >and direct formatting. I see no answer to this conundrum, simply b

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles

2013-05-03 Thread Virgil Arrington
I tend to agree with Wolfgang on this one. I think the difference for Felmon is that you are the "master of documents." Sounds like its your job to clean up everyone's mess and you seem to get the final say on how the document will be structured. In the legal arena, it's rare that one person w

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles

2013-05-04 Thread Virgil Arrington
Great idea as long as I'm not the one paying the $25 per document. :) Virgil -Original Message- From: Ken Springer Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 10:56 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles On 4/29/13 12:00 PM, Virgil Arrington

Re: [libreoffice-users] Paragraph styles

2013-05-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
A program is intuitive if it matches something in our previous experience. Before computers, business professionals used typewriters. If you want a computer to be intuitive, you need to make it work as much like a typewriter as possible. (I'm still amazed that, after 30+ years, the typewriter re

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles

2013-05-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
ssage- From: Doug Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 2:20 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles On 05/05/2013 01:19 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Doug wrote, I may be wrong, but it would seem to me that all this fuss about styles is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles

2013-05-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
Sure, I'll give it a try. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 4:48 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; Doug ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Paragraph styles Hi :) Virgil, is there any chance you you uploading your tem

Re: [libreoffice-users] Compatibility LO/MSO

2013-05-07 Thread Virgil Arrington
Milos, I'm no expert, nor can I tell you why you're having those issues, but I can confirm that there are many differences in the way Word and LO Writer work. I use a lot of outline styles and they just don't translate well between the two programs. For me the differences seem to be in the spa

Re: [libreoffice-users] Default Superscript and Subscript size

2013-06-03 Thread Virgil Arrington
I have not read this entire thread, so forgive me if I'm repeating others or writing something that doesn't quite fit. I've found that I can change the size of superscripts by changing their attribute in the Superscript character style. The problem I've found (which may be the same as y'all)

Re: [libreoffice-users] CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-07 Thread Virgil Arrington
If I recall, I tried Kingsoft a few years ago, and found it woefully deficient for my needs. I don't recall specifically what the issue(s) were, but I recall concluding that it couldn't hold a candle to LO. As to the Ribbon, I pray LO never adopts it. A short while ago, we had a discussion abo

Re: [libreoffice-users] CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-07 Thread Virgil Arrington
This has been fascinating reading all of the opinions about user interfaces and the dreaded ribbon. I've not found *anyone* who actually likes the ribbon. I agree with several of you who have observed that the ribbon makes using styles much harder. And, since it's harder to use styles, it only

Re: [libreoffice-users] CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO

2013-06-08 Thread Virgil Arrington
ad PC-Write onto my computer, but it won't run on a 64-bit computer. *sigh*) Virgil -Original Message- From: Doug Sent: Friday, June 07, 2013 8:39 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] CNET is claiming the best free MSO alternative is not LO On

Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

2013-06-26 Thread Virgil Arrington
William, Your document would use page styles. The page style for the first page would not have any headers. Then the page style for the subsequent pages would have a header. You can then format the lines (paragraphs) within the header to any left and right margin you would like. (To have margi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: any word about 4.0.4 portable coming out?

2013-06-26 Thread Virgil Arrington
This question makes me wonder, just why there are so many LO versions and frequent new releases. I can't keep up, and I find myself torn about upgrading. I want the latest and greatest, but I've had problems with newer versions resurrecting old bugs. I'm sure there's an overriding philosophy t

Re: off-list Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

2013-06-27 Thread Virgil Arrington
Been there...unfortunately as the one looking for a calculator, he said with a blush. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 12:52 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; LibreOffice List Subject: off-list Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

2013-07-01 Thread Virgil Arrington
There are two ways of setting a left and right margin in a header. One way is to do it in the page formatting and page style settings where you set left and right margins for the page and header. LO doesn't seem to recognize negative header margins in the page formatting/style dialogs. The ot

Re: [libreoffice-users] Need header outside right margin

2013-07-01 Thread Virgil Arrington
o find and implement. When I need more advanced features, like tables, or a spreadsheet, then I use LO, but it has grown too complex and uncertain for my more basic needs. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:28 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@gl

Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

2013-07-02 Thread Virgil Arrington
Hit "reply all." This is the only list I belong to that requires that selection. Then, the person you're replying to gets two emails, unless after hitting "reply all" you go into the "To" box and manually delete the extra emails. Virgil -Original Message- From: Thomas Blasejewicz S

Re: [libreoffice-users] constant crashes

2013-07-02 Thread Virgil Arrington
ow it does infuriate some other people though. My main worry is if no-one on the list sees my replies so i usually quickly glance at the "To" and "CC" fields to see who is getting the response. Regards from Tom :) ____ From: Vir

Re: [libreoffice-users] template menu

2013-07-04 Thread Virgil Arrington
I confess that I don't understand this type of "improvement" in software development. It's sort of like when MS decided that users couldn’t understand the Windows menu structure that had been used for two decades and gave us the ribbon. The LO/OO method of organizing templates has been around

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-08 Thread Virgil Arrington
I'll probably be (justifiably) ostracized for this on a LO user list, but to me trying to write a book with LO Writer is like trying to force a square peg into a round hole. Yes, it can be done, but the labor involved may not be worth it. In my mind, Writer is a business application, useful for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-08 Thread Virgil Arrington
hing an e-book. Virgil -Original Message- From: Mirosław Zalewski Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 5:51 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 08/07/2013 at 22:58, "Virgil Arrington" wrote: but to me trying to write a bo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-09 Thread Virgil Arrington
Ferand wrote, Virgil, please stop this crap, LO and OO are the right tools to produce any document any form any size, only the lack of knowledge is a barrier . All professional tools to produce a book are XML based like LO and OO, so start writing, use a simple style model , understood the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-09 Thread Virgil Arrington
, depending on the output you want, you have an education ahead of you. Either learn LO’s master document/table of contents system, or learn how to make some changes to LaTeX’s default settings. Virgil From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 5:27 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; Mirosław Zalewski

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-09 Thread Virgil Arrington
Getting back to Pablo's original question, he asked about using master documents with sub-documents for each chapter. This is, in fact, the model used by many systems, from LaTeX to yWriter, as well as LO. But, I'm wondering how necessary it really is. The purpose of the master document/subdoc

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-09 Thread Virgil Arrington
Jack, Just curious. Do you use LO's master document system for your books? Virgil -Original Message- From: Jack Wallen Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 7:12 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Sorry, my original reply went off lis

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-09 Thread Virgil Arrington
Kracked_P_P wrote: I use LO to export my work to a PDF document that would work well on my tablets. All I needed to do is format the page size to the proper one that works best for tablet reading. I choose something along the page size used for paper-back books. So I format the page to abou

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-10 Thread Virgil Arrington
Urmas wrote: The tool that you use does not matter. Everything thay you write will be decomposed and virtually remade in the DTP program, most likely InDesign. You may be right if the project goes to a professional publisher for final output. But, Pablo's original question stated he would be

Re: [libreoffice-users] A feature, or ...?

2013-07-11 Thread Virgil Arrington
Once you apply your style, you can clear any direct formatting by selecting the text and hitting . Everything should then snap to the style-controlled formatting. Virgil -Original Message- From: Jan Andersen Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2013 1:50 AM To: libreoffice Subject: Re: [libreoff

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-11 Thread Virgil Arrington
iginal Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2013 9:08 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 07/10/2013 08:37 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Urmas wrote: The tool that you use does not matter. Everythi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-11 Thread Virgil Arrington
Wolfgang, I don't believe I've heard of "structure markup style concept" and I'm not sure I understand what you mean. I used WordPerfect for years and could never quite get the hang of WP's styles, all the while I took to Word's and OO's (now LO's) styles quite easily. When I used WP, everythi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-12 Thread Virgil Arrington
That works just fine. For my tastes, however, it's not quite as smooth a process or polished a result as with LyX/LaTeX. But, as I've said before, LyX/LaTeX have their own sets of problems. Perhaps the best solution is the one a person will actually use to get the job done. One Scrivener revie

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-12 Thread Virgil Arrington
I fully agree. I use outline level styles all the time, and they make a world of difference, especially when used in headings. They make jumping from one heading to the next actually work on my Kindle. Virgil --- From: Fernand Vanrie Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 3:22 AM To: users@global.libre

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-12 Thread Virgil Arrington
Wolfgang, Forgive my ignorance, but I'm trying to understand what you're saying. You wrote: In essence, this boils down to the fact that all sane document processing applications (whether Wordperfect, Framemaker or dozens of others, LaTeX or anything that outputs structured XML) use nestable

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-07-12 Thread Virgil Arrington
Wolfgang, You also wrote: The style concept of both Word and LO/OO however is so severely screwed up that I've never ever seen a document that would have allowed to re-use content in any other way (within the same application!) than by copying and pasting it as unformatted text and then re-appl

Re: [libreoffice-users] A feature, or ...?

2013-07-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
al Message- From: Gabriel Risterucci Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 5:33 PM Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] A feature, or ...? 2013/7/13 Pablo Dotro On 11/07/13 07:50, Virgil Arrington wrote: Once you apply your style, you can clear any direct formatting by sel

Re: [libreoffice-users] A feature, or ...?

2013-07-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
urday, July 13, 2013 5:33 PM Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] A feature, or ...? 2013/7/13 Pablo Dotro On 11/07/13 07:50, Virgil Arrington wrote: Once you apply your style, you can clear any direct formatting by selecting the text and hitting . Everything should

Re: [libreoffice-users] HTML Source

2013-07-14 Thread Virgil Arrington
I just tried this following the same instructions with an HTML file. Rather than saying "it doesn't work," I would simply say that in LO 3.6.6.2 running under Win7, there is no option under the "View" menu to select "HTML source." Is this a new feature found in LO 4 or is the online documentat

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: HTML Source

2013-07-14 Thread Virgil Arrington
Yes, I also have "Data Source" in my View Menu (LO 3.6.6.2, Win7), but when I select it on an HTML file, I do *not* get HTML source code. Rather, I get a link to a "Bibliography," which my document doesn’t have. If I recall, "Bibliography" is one of the default registered databases, which of cou

[libreoffice-users] LO Freezing

2013-07-16 Thread Virgil Arrington
I’m just writing to see if anyone else has experienced my particular problem. I use LO 3.6.6.2 on an Win7 Sony laptop. When running LO, I will often experience either long delays in executing functions or outright freezing of the program. When this happens, I’ll get the never ending circle curso

[libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

2013-07-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
Are there any known conflicts with having LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 installed on the same computer? In my never-ending, obsessive (and admittedly futile) search for computing perfection, I want to try both programs to see which better meets my techno-needs. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users

[libreoffice-users] Re: Conflicts?

2013-07-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
uld be any problem). Under GNU/Linux, you need to install them with the official packages from their respective website. Using the version delivered by your distro may lead to dependency problems. Hagar Le 23/07/2013 21:38, Virgil Arrington a écrit : Are there any known conflicts with having LO

Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

2013-07-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
Thanks, Tom. I always disable quickstarter as a matter of course. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 7:13 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; us...@openoffice.apache.org ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) I

[libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-23 Thread Virgil Arrington
In an attempt to compare the latest LO and AOO offerings, today I installed both LO 4.0.4 and AOO 4.0 on my Win7 machine. Until now, I have been happily using LO 3.6.6.2, having previously tried an earlier release in the LO 4 series. When I previously installed LO 4, I noticed that it seemed to

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-24 Thread Virgil Arrington
Stuart wrote, Recognizing that this is the normal use case--that is how the LibreOffice installer behaves by default. If you need it to do >something else you have to do more than click on the installer. And, fyi, the Apache OpenOffice installer behaves exactly the >same, but is less function

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO 4 install deletes 3.6

2013-07-25 Thread Virgil Arrington
Or, people have upgraded, have had problems, and are too disappointed to keep reporting them. For example, as I reported before, LO 3.6.6.2 properly loads the style list in the format it was in on the last close out. For me that is "hierarchical," my preferred way of displaying styles. LO 4.

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-27 Thread Virgil Arrington
Amit wrote: The main problem here is that the user does not know wheher the next release is more stable than previous one or not. And the user will get caught in the conflict in the sense that he will think that may be if he does not upgrade then he might be losing out on some features. This con

Re: [libreoffice-users] 4.0.3

2013-07-29 Thread Virgil Arrington
I certainly hope the primary motive for FOSS such as LO is not a disdain for MS. I personally don't care how much money MS makes. I hope the LO developers are motivated by a desire to produce a great product that can be used worldwide. Hatred usually doesn't provide a very effective motive for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts?

2013-08-04 Thread Virgil Arrington
riginal Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 3:35 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; us...@openoffice.apache.org ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Conflicts? Hi :) Just out of curiosity has anyone tried the Apache OpenOffice 4.0 yet? I really liked t

Re: [libreoffice-users] stable vs new

2013-08-04 Thread Virgil Arrington
Yes, thank you for the information. I now get it, and it does make sense. Now, if we can just get a new branch of LO (x.y.0) to stop overwriting an older branch (x.x.7) by default, I would a most happy man. Virgil -Original Message- From: jorge Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2013 4:41 P

Re: [libreoffice-users] start up speed

2013-08-05 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/05/2013 05:03 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) That is weird. On this fairly crumby laptop, 2.2GHz (hmmm, not so crumby after all) it took about 0-1 seconds for the LO splash-screen to appear. Same on my really nice desktop, 1.86GHz (hmmm, not so nice after all!). Both running Ubuntu and

Re: [libreoffice-users] start up speed

2013-08-06 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/06/2013 11:49 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I tend to take the view that some users will always manage to infect Windows without even seeming to try. Others will find their system gets infected despite elaborate precautions that no other sane person would bother with. It's more a case of

Re: Most stable version right now Fw: [libreoffice-users] stable vs new

2013-08-06 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/06/2013 02:07 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: I still abide by a statement attributed to Adam Osborne back in the 80s: "He, who lives on the cutting edge of technology, gets sliced to bits." Since the 3.6 series works fine for me, I will wait until the knife edge dulls a bit before I make the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
Tom, Do you have a link to one of the guides? I may have a go at trying different ways of converting one to EPUB just to see how it works. Might be kind of fun. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 8:31 AM To: e-letter ; Virgil Arrington Cc

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
ns after a half-hour experiment. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: Virgil Arrington ; e-letter Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Sorry, got distracted.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
good tool as long as you understand what it will, and will not, do. Work within its parameters and you'll like the result. Try to make it work *your* way, and it will disappoint. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:41 PM To: Virgil Arri

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
conflicts when installed side by side on the same machine (registry perhaps which is beyond my knowledge). Since I'm finding that LO is progressing better than AOO, I'm happy to commit to just one of the suites. Virgil -Original Message----- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-13 Thread Virgil Arrington
3.x, another for 4.0, and a new Beta one. So you may need to look into which one you are using for which version of LO or AOO. I found this out by Googling "odf to epub converter" On 08/13/2013 04:15 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: Another thing I noticed about the writer2epub extensi

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-14 Thread Virgil Arrington
cannot now recall the order of all my changes. Virgil -Original Message- From: jorge Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:43 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: Kracked_P_P---webmaster ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer Hi all ! Vir

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-14 Thread Virgil Arrington
Virgil -Original Message- From: e-letter Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 5:44 AM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote: I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-14 Thread Virgil Arrington
The strange thing was I didn’t extract the oxt from the zip. I simply renamed the zip to an oxt. There was no oxt file inside the zip. Virgil From: Tom Davies Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:36 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Book

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-15 Thread Virgil Arrington
Joaquin wrote: Then again, I'm going to try to export one of the LibO manuals and see what happens. Good luck. I just tried it and, as you allude, the manuals have much too complex formatting for my Kindle. The Writer2epub extension wouldn't even produce an epub file from the two manuals I t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-15 Thread Virgil Arrington
The typographic standard is to only use one space between sentences with proportionally spaced fonts. However, if you use a fixed-width font, like Courier, then using two spaces is appropriate. But, you should only use a fixed-width font if you are required to by some outside party. Virgil --

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-15 Thread Virgil Arrington
Ruth, I think you may be right about digital typesetting programs like LaTeX. By default, it automatically inserts a wider space after sentence ending punctuation. This can be disabled with the \frenchspacing command. However, word processors, like LO, aren't as smart. I don't believe they m

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-15 Thread Virgil Arrington
tween sentences. Virgil -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:22 AM To: LibreOffice Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting Virgil Arrington wrote: The typographic standard is to only use one space between sentences with proportionall

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-16 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/16/2013 03:06 AM, Brian Barker wrote: o I would suggest that two spaces are probably useful with fixed-pitch text as on a typewriter, especially when the sentence-ending full stop will be spaced so far from the last character of the sentence. So that's why we all learned that way. But t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Book-writing with Writer

2013-08-16 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/15/2013 08:20 AM, Fernand Vanrie wrote: trie the Elaix extension On 13/08/2013, Virgil Arrington wrote: I just did a couple experiments with LO and Writer2epub. I tried converting the entire 390 page Getting Started book to EPUB. It choked. I then tried doing the same with just the

[libreoffice-users] Changing paths in LO

2012-12-12 Thread Virgil Arrington
Okay, here's a weird one. I'm using a Sony Vaio Win7 laptop. I've been wanting to play with Linux, so I installed Ubuntu 12.10, using the full dual boot install (not the Wubi) complete with a partitioned hard drive. Ubuntu came with LO 3.6.2.2. I've done nothing to the Linux LO installation

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-16 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/16/2013 10:50 AM, James Knott wrote: Brian Barker wrote: I would suggest that two spaces are probably useful with fixed-pitch text as on a typewriter A wider space between sentences is useful, no matter how the text is created. It clearly defines the beginning and end of a sentence and i

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/16/2013 11:18 PM, Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2013-08-16 8:22 PM James Knott wrote: I just tried a little experiment. I typed a sentence, with a period at the end. I then started typing the next sentence with a lower case n. I then placed the cursor directly over the first vertical line in th

Re: [libreoffice-users] Can't find setting

2013-08-17 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/16/2013 10:08 PM, James Knott wrote: Virgil Arrington wrote: Just curious, since nearly every professionally published book since the mid-1900s has had one space after sentence ending punctuation, do you find reading books difficult? I just picked up the closest book I had at hand. It&#

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-18 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/18/2013 01:17 AM, Urmas wrote: "Paul": Yeah, bad troll is truly terrible. Meanwhile you could work on a feature parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, from 1991. The think I've learned about features is that it doesn't matter how many a software program has, as long as it has the one th

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-18 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/18/2013 07:43 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 08/18/2013 01:17 AM, Urmas wrote: "Paul": Yeah, bad troll is truly terrible. Meanwhile you could work on a feature parity with Microsoft Word 2.0, from 1991. The think I've learned about features is that it doesn'

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-18 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/18/2013 04:35 PM, Brian Barker wrote: At 07:55 18/08/2013 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 08/18/2013 07:43 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: ... LO allows me to control widows and orphans separately, which I appreciate since widows aren't nearly the problem that orphans are. And, of c

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Battle of the Office Suites: Microsoft Office and LibreOffice Compared

2013-08-18 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/18/2013 06:39 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On Sun, 18 Aug 2013 17:51:10 -0400, Mike McCallister wrote: On 8/18/2013 10:11 AM, Urmas wrote: "Werner F. Bruhin": Now a productive use of time would have been to tell us what the one feature you would like to have which existed in Word 2.0 in 199

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

2013-08-19 Thread Virgil Arrington
On 08/19/2013 08:44 AM, Denis J Navas wrote: LaTeX which is known as a standard with typography of technical and mathematical documents, use a wider space after the end of sentence point, than the space between words. Even more, the inter word space is dependent of the main font size (the opti

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