Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. What happens when you have two folders that are similar characters, except some difference? LibreOffice-4.0-installsvs. LibreOffice-3.6-installs? You would have to make sure you go out till the difference? I tend to unarchive all of the downloaded file for my version at the same time. For me, that is just the main install and the help pack. /To be honest, I never really got into doing all that much with the terminal. I prefer to use a GUI to do the work. There are a very large amount of things that the terminal can do that I do not know of, or how to do those things that might help me once and a while. I just never bought or download and GOODand easy to understand reference to what you can do in the terminal. Of course, there are different ways to do things in a Ubuntu/Debian system than you would do the same thing in a openSUSE or RPM system. Different commands and such. // // //I have tried things that others say work for the, but does not work in my install of Ubuntu. That is one reason I have a laptop that has a partition that I use to test new versions of Ubuntu and desktop environments. I do not want to upgrade my 5 TB production desktop and then find that something is not right. I did the upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 on the laptop and it worked fine, but totally crashed on my desktop causing me to need to wipe the system and do a fresh install. I really did not want to have to reinstall all of the packages over again, but in the end I had no choice to do so and move my data files from my external backup drive. That took days to complete./ SO I do not experiment with things on the Terminal, or almost never. I would love to experiment and see about creating a script that would automate the install of LO from an earlier versionusing something like sh libre-update.run and then have it do the removal of the older version and install the newer one. I could place it in the folderthat contains the DEBS folder so it will be version independent. But, if I do something wrong, how bad will it go wrong? So right now I am not going toexperiment that way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) Tab complete is what i was trying to describe in this thread the other day, possibly yday although it's already nearly tomorrow here so possibly the day before yday. Works on any unix-based platform so that includes Bsd although possibly not Mac. I've not seen a command-line on a Mac. Also works on the Grub command-line although i try to avoid that even more than the regular command-line as i'm even more clueless there. Pointclick rules! (unless you are showing off) Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 19:52 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. What happens when you have two folders that are similar characters, except some difference? LibreOffice-4.0-installsvs. LibreOffice-3.6-installs? You would have to make sure you go out till the difference? I tend to unarchive all of the downloaded file for my version at the same time. For me, that is just the main install and the help pack. /To be honest, I never really got into doing all that much with the terminal. I prefer to use a GUI to do the work. There are a very large amount of things that the terminal can do that I do not know of, or how to do those things that might help me once and a while. I just never bought or download and GOODand easy to understand reference to what you can do in the terminal. Of course, there are different ways to do things in a Ubuntu/Debian system than you would do the same thing in a openSUSE or RPM system. Different commands and such. // // //I have tried things that others say work for the, but does not work in my install of Ubuntu. That is one reason I have a laptop that has a partition that I use to test new versions of Ubuntu and desktop environments. I do not want to upgrade my 5 TB production desktop and then find that something is not right. I did the upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 on the laptop and it worked fine, but totally crashed on my desktop causing me to need to wipe the system and do a fresh install. I really did not want to have to reinstall all of the packages over again, but in the end I had no choice to do so and move my data files from my external backup drive. That took days to complete./ SO I do not experiment with things on the Terminal, or almost never. I would love to experiment and see about creating a script that would automate the install of LO from an earlier versionusing something like sh libre-update.run and then have it do the removal of the older version and install the newer one. I could place it in the folderthat contains the DEBS folder so it will be version independent. But, if I do something wrong, how bad will it go wrong? So right now I am not going toexperiment that way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) Ok, so how about running a Virtual Machine? Perhaps acquire an old hard-drive that you don't care about too much and physically unplug all your 5Tb and then plug in the experimental one. Btw on a command-line if 2 pathnames or file-names are quite close to each other then when you press Tab it will show the 2 or more options and then give you a new prompt with all the stuff you had already typed already on it. Sounds complicated but try it and you'll soon work it out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 19:52 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. What happens when you have two folders that are similar characters, except some difference? LibreOffice-4.0-installsvs. LibreOffice-3.6-installs? You would have to make sure you go out till the difference? I tend to unarchive all of the downloaded file for my version at the same time. For me, that is just the main install and the help pack. /To be honest, I never really got into doing all that much with the terminal. I prefer to use a GUI to do the work. There are a very large amount of things that the terminal can do that I do not know of, or how to do those things that might help me once and a while. I just never bought or download and GOODand easy to understand reference to what you can do in the terminal. Of course, there are different ways to do things in a Ubuntu/Debian system than you would do the same thing in a openSUSE or RPM system. Different commands and such. // // //I have tried things that others say work for the, but does not work in my install of Ubuntu. That is one reason I have a laptop that has a partition that I use to test new versions of Ubuntu and desktop environments. I do not want to upgrade my 5 TB production desktop and then find that something is not right. I did the upgrading from 10.04 to 12.04 on the laptop and it worked fine, but totally crashed on my desktop causing me to need to wipe the system and do a fresh install. I really did not want to have to reinstall all of the packages over again, but in the end I had no choice to do so and move my data files from my external backup drive. That took days to complete./ SO I do not experiment with things on the Terminal, or almost never. I would love to experiment and see about creating a script that would automate the install of LO from an earlier versionusing something like sh libre-update.run and then have it do the removal of the older version and install the newer one. I could place it in the folderthat contains the DEBS folder so it will be version independent. But, if I do something wrong, how bad will it go wrong? So right now I am not going toexperiment that way. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 2013-02-12 2:52 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com wrote: On 02/12/2013 11:10 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: On 2013-02-10 10:27 PM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. Never heard of 'tab-completion'? Try hitting the tab key after typing one or two characters of the folder name and see what happens... Never heard of this. Never know of the Tab completion in the Terminal. Does it work with the Terminal that is in GNOME, MATE, Unity, KDE? How about the one that comes with openSUSE and other non-Ubuntu systems. I have been told that Debian and Ubuntu is growing apart so some distros are showing both Ubuntu-based and Debian-based versions. It works in virtually all *nix that I'm aware of, and DOS and Windows Command Prompt terminals, and has for as long long time... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command-line_completion -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) You don't need to do all that typing anyway. Just press the tab key a few times and the terminal cleverly works out what you are aiming for. It takes a bit of working out how it works at first but it's a real boon once you get used to it. Renaming is not a bad idea though as it clarifies exactly what is what. I thnk it inspired those old mobile phones that had predictive texting wy before smart-phones arrived. Hmmm, thinking about it i wonder what OS they were running! ;) Unfortunately the phones version of predictive text was quite a bit different and a bit of a pita for a lot of people. Dunno how often my phone called my best buddy a cow! This has beena great thread! Thanks all :) It's given me a lot to try out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 3:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. I also do not use the desktop as the storage place fore the unarchived folder[s]. I keep forgetting the remove command so I use the package manager to remove the LO packages from the previous version that was installed. Works well for me. Also, I tend to use the cd command to go to the proper folder[s] where the dpkg command is needed. Long ago, in my mainframe days, I was taught to go to the folder[s] where my files are to run them. That is what I try to do. The only time I do not is when I have a launcher icon to work with on my desktop. I prefer to use the GUI more than the terminal anyways. Easier on my fingers and my typing skills after 3 strokes. So I do things as easy as I can, or easy as I can remember to do/use. On 02/10/2013 01:06 PM, Don Myers wrote: Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to where you wish to have them in the launcher bar. If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following: The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common An install as shown above does not have any repository from which it originated. Therefore there aren't any updates, which I understand. If it showed up as an installed program, Ubuntu would try to update the LibreOffice with its own version which would lead to a royal mess!! I did not get a message saying there is a missing package like you did. Don On 02/10/2013 09:59 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Tom I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it. On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
The only typing I do is the cd Lib cd DEBS sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb[using up arrow till I get to that command] No long folder or file names if you unpack the folder/files via the GUI file manager and archive package, then rename the folder to Lib. I do the same thing for the help packs. I do as little typing as I can. On 02/11/2013 12:00 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) You don't need to do all that typing anyway. Just press the tab key a few times and the terminal cleverly works out what you are aiming for. It takes a bit of working out how it works at first but it's a real boon once you get used to it. Renaming is not a bad idea though as it clarifies exactly what is what. I thnk it inspired those old mobile phones that had predictive texting wy before smart-phones arrived. Hmmm, thinking about it i wonder what OS they were running! ;) Unfortunately the phones version of predictive text was quite a bit different and a bit of a pita for a lot of people. Dunno how often my phone called my best buddy a cow! This has beena great thread! Thanks all :) It's given me a lot to try out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 3:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. I also do not use the desktop as the storage place fore the unarchived folder[s]. I keep forgetting the remove command so I use the package manager to remove the LO packages from the previous version that was installed. Works well for me. Also, I tend to use the cd command to go to the proper folder[s] where the dpkg command is needed. Long ago, in my mainframe days, I was taught to go to the folder[s] where my files are to run them. That is what I try to do. The only time I do not is when I have a launcher icon to work with on my desktop. I prefer to use the GUI more than the terminal anyways. Easier on my fingers and my typing skills after 3 strokes. So I do things as easy as I can, or easy as I can remember to do/use. On 02/10/2013 01:06 PM, Don Myers wrote: Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to where you wish to have them in the launcher bar. If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following: The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common An install as shown above does not have any repository from which it originated. Therefore there aren't any updates, which I understand. If it showed up as an installed program, Ubuntu would try to update the LibreOffice with its own version which would lead to a royal mess!! I did not get a message saying there is a missing package like you did. Don On 02/10/2013 09:59 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Tom I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it. On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) When you get to the s in desktop-integration try pressing the tab key and watch the rest of the line get put in for you ;) I agree with Marc and feel compelled to point out that normally installing stuff is much easier on GnuLinux, and safer. It's because we are all trying to do something unusual, something that we wouldn't normally do, that it's getting complicated. Normally i wouldn't even have to download anything from a website using a web-browser or visit sites i could never entirely be certain of or trust friends or a shop that might not know everything to watch out for. Normally i just open my Package Manager instead of a web-browser. Then i tell it roughly what i want. Even if i don't know a name it gives a bunch of choices. I click on one or more of the choices and click the Install button. From then on the package manager looks after updating it for me and making sure it doesn't break or get corrupted or anything. It just does the whole job of downloading, installing and updating. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 17:13 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb The only typing I do is the cd Lib cd DEBS sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb [using up arrow till I get to that command] No long folder or file names if you unpack the folder/files via the GUI file manager and archive package, then rename the folder to Lib. I do the same thing for the help packs. I do as little typing as I can. On 02/11/2013 12:00 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) You don't need to do all that typing anyway. Just press the tab key a few times and the terminal cleverly works out what you are aiming for. It takes a bit of working out how it works at first but it's a real boon once you get used to it. Renaming is not a bad idea though as it clarifies exactly what is what. I thnk it inspired those old mobile phones that had predictive texting wy before smart-phones arrived. Hmmm, thinking about it i wonder what OS they were running! ;) Unfortunately the phones version of predictive text was quite a bit different and a bit of a pita for a lot of people. Dunno how often my phone called my best buddy a cow! This has beena great thread! Thanks all :) It's given me a lot to try out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 3:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. I also do not use the desktop as the storage place fore the unarchived folder[s]. I keep forgetting the remove command so I use the package manager to remove the LO packages from the previous version that was installed. Works well for me. Also, I tend to use the cd command to go to the proper folder[s] where the dpkg command is needed. Long ago, in my mainframe days, I was taught to go to the folder[s] where my files are to run them. That is what I try to do. The only time I do not is when I have a launcher icon to work with on my desktop. I prefer to use the GUI more than the terminal anyways. Easier on my fingers and my typing skills after 3 strokes. So I do things as easy as I can, or easy as I can remember to do/use. On 02/10/2013 01:06 PM, Don Myers wrote: Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to where you wish to have them in the launcher bar. If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following: The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi All, A simple copy and paste works really well!! No typing necessary. Just make sure you have the file saved as a .txt that you open with GEdit. When I was new to Linux (Ubuntu) and didn't understand anything about what the system was really doing or about the file structure, OpenOffice was updated, and it wasn't going to be included for Ubuntu users until the next update, which was three or 4 months down the road. I ran across this method as a way to update my OpenOffice without waiting. The same thing took place with the next OpenOffice release. Again I found the updated instructions on the Internet. I still use this as it is easy to update computers. I've installed Ubuntu on about 23 or so. It is also easy for a new person to Ubuntu since they don't have to understand changing directories, etc. Simple extract the download to the desktop, and then copy and paste the three commands into the terminal. Don On 02/11/2013 12:00 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) You don't need to do all that typing anyway. Just press the tab key a few times and the terminal cleverly works out what you are aiming for. It takes a bit of working out how it works at first but it's a real boon once you get used to it. Renaming is not a bad idea though as it clarifies exactly what is what. I thnk it inspired those old mobile phones that had predictive texting wy before smart-phones arrived. Hmmm, thinking about it i wonder what OS they were running! ;) Unfortunately the phones version of predictive text was quite a bit different and a bit of a pita for a lot of people. Dunno how often my phone called my best buddy a cow! This has beena great thread! Thanks all :) It's given me a lot to try out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 3:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. I also do not use the desktop as the storage place fore the unarchived folder[s]. I keep forgetting the remove command so I use the package manager to remove the LO packages from the previous version that was installed. Works well for me. Also, I tend to use the cd command to go to the proper folder[s] where the dpkg command is needed. Long ago, in my mainframe days, I was taught to go to the folder[s] where my files are to run them. That is what I try to do. The only time I do not is when I have a launcher icon to work with on my desktop. I prefer to use the GUI more than the terminal anyways. Easier on my fingers and my typing skills after 3 strokes. So I do things as easy as I can, or easy as I can remember to do/use. On 02/10/2013 01:06 PM, Don Myers wrote: Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to where you wish to have them in the launcher bar. If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following: The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common An install as shown above does not have any repository from which it originated. Therefore there aren't any updates, which I understand. If it showed up as an installed program, Ubuntu would try to update the LibreOffice with its own version which would lead to a royal mess!! I did not get a message saying there is a missing package like you did. Don On 02/10/2013 09:59 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Tom I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it. On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line
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On 02/11/2013 12:30 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) When you get to the s in desktop-integration try pressing the tab key and watch the rest of the line get put in for you ;) I agree with Marc and feel compelled to point out that normally installing stuff is much easier on GnuLinux, and safer. It's because we are all trying to do something unusual, something that we wouldn't normally do, that it's getting complicated. Normally i wouldn't even have to download anything from a website using a web-browser or visit sites i could never entirely be certain of or trust friends or a shop that might not know everything to watch out for. Normally i just open my Package Manager instead of a web-browser. Then i tell it roughly what i want. Even if i don't know a name it gives a bunch of choices. I click on one or more of the choices and click the Install button. From then on the package manager looks after updating it for me and making sure it doesn't break or get corrupted or anything. It just does the whole job of downloading, installing and updating. Regards from Tom :) /snip/ This is the Microsoft/Apple/Ubuntu attitude. If you want a nanny, use one of those. What do you do when you need something that's NOT in your repo? LightScribe, frinstance? You'd better learn how to use either rpm or deb, whichever your system uses, or you will be smothered by those four walls you have allowed some distro to erect around you! --doug -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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On 02/11/2013 11:53 AM, Marc Paré wrote: Wow, I can't imagine that it is that difficult to install LibreOffice on .deb or, for that matter, on any other package (.rpm) on Linux. I am like Tim with his suggestions below. I am on Mageia Linux rpm. Except I just don't like typing anything for installs in anything, especially in console, except for passwords. So, here is how I do my LibreOffice installs (in 4 steps), and, I am pretty sure this is possible on a .deb install and on the majority of Linux distros. Here is my KDE routine (I am pretty sure that the Gnome routine would be the same and on most Linux window managers): = * uninstall the older version of LibreOffice (all of it) by using your package manager. The only thing you have to type is the root password. And yes, everything related to the 3.x.x.x or 4.x.x.x version that you are replacing -- *the only thing to type is the root password* = * Download the LibreOffice.org download file(s) into a file folder. So, for example, I created a file folder called v.3.0.0.3 and downloaded the .tar.gz file there. No need to rename anything -- *there is nothing to type* = * unpack the .tar.gz by right clicking on the file(s). If there are 2 .tar.gz files or more, you can even select all of them, the, right-click and choose extract archive here -- *there is nothing to type* = * once unpacked, there will be a folder. Browse into the folder, pick all of the .rpm files, then, right-click and choose Open with-Software Installer. The package manager installer window opens and asks you for the root password -- *the only thing to type is the root password* = * \o/ done -- OK, I added this step just for fun = Linux has come a long way in user friendliness. There is no need to go through all of these hoops to install a piece of software. If I were a Windows user, this kind of thread would scare me away from using Linux as it makes it sound so difficult to install. It is not that complicated and there is really no need to make it this complicated -- if it were this complicated to install LibreOffice, even I would consider moving to another OS. Phew, OK, I feel better now that I got this off my chest. Now where did I put those blood pressure pills ... [*smile*] Cheers, Marc There are a variety of ways to install LO for Debian OS's. Some are harder than others, and some are easier. What no one has mentioned is the use of script files. They will do much of the work for you. Planning how to install the Deb files is important. If you have LO from your OS, you need to use Synaptic (Step#1 mentioned above.) But this is the only time you need to do this. dpkg (installs the Deb files) writes the new files over the existing files. There is no need to remove them. Extract the installation folder and always place it in the same location. (This is important for the contents of the script file.) Example of the script file: #!/bin/sh cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/ sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb This looks like a lot of typing, but it is not really. Besides much of it is used over and over again. The third line is the longest. cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/ is the location for the installation folder that you extracted. LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US is the name of that folder. I do not like to type long names like the name of the installation folder, so I look for a short cut. I use the file browser (Nautilus) to go to this folder's location, I can right click on the folder and select Properties. There at the top is the folder's name highlighted. Ctrl+C copies the name, and I paste it into the third line. I also erase the name of the previous folder. Another method: erase the number of the previous LO version and type in the new number. In this case, replace 3.6.5.2 with 4.0.0.3. What this does: installs the Deb files and desktop integration items. The script file needs to be executable when it was first created. To do this right click the script file, select Properties - Permissions. Click the box labelled Allow executing the file as a program. The location of the script file might be important also. So actual steps to install 4.0.0.3: 1) Download the file to /home/dan/Downloads/LO/. 2) Extract the downloaded file to the same location. 3) Update the third line of the script file using either method using gedit. 4) In the file browser, double click the script file. 5) Click the button Run in Terminal. 6) Type your password. 7) Close the terminal. The first two steps involve only clicks. Step 3 can involve only using the mouse, or typing 4 digits and 3 periods. Only step 6 involves typing with the rest
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I now have the terminal commands in a text document. I keep forgetting the remove command's text. So I just use the package manager to remove the previous version. Maybe there could be a sh libre-update.run type of command made and placed in the archived folder one level up from the DEBS folder. Then all someone needs to so is run one command in the terminal that would do everything else. Make it generic so it would not need changing for every version. Do the same for the RPM installs. How easy would it be then? run one command that will do everything for you so it would not take any other typing, except your password, to get the Linux versions installed. Windows users get one double clicking of the file, plus the custom install options, to install LO. Have a simple single line command to remove the old version of LO and install the new one would be really nice. Still, some Linux users would not like that. It would make my life easier sometimes. On 02/11/2013 12:50 PM, Don C. Myers wrote: Hi All, A simple copy and paste works really well!! No typing necessary. Just make sure you have the file saved as a .txt that you open with GEdit. When I was new to Linux (Ubuntu) and didn't understand anything about what the system was really doing or about the file structure, OpenOffice was updated, and it wasn't going to be included for Ubuntu users until the next update, which was three or 4 months down the road. I ran across this method as a way to update my OpenOffice without waiting. The same thing took place with the next OpenOffice release. Again I found the updated instructions on the Internet. I still use this as it is easy to update computers. I've installed Ubuntu on about 23 or so. It is also easy for a new person to Ubuntu since they don't have to understand changing directories, etc. Simple extract the download to the desktop, and then copy and paste the three commands into the terminal. Don On 02/11/2013 12:00 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) You don't need to do all that typing anyway. Just press the tab key a few times and the terminal cleverly works out what you are aiming for. It takes a bit of working out how it works at first but it's a real boon once you get used to it. Renaming is not a bad idea though as it clarifies exactly what is what. I thnk it inspired those old mobile phones that had predictive texting wy before smart-phones arrived. Hmmm, thinking about it i wonder what OS they were running! ;) Unfortunately the phones version of predictive text was quite a bit different and a bit of a pita for a lot of people. Dunno how often my phone called my best buddy a cow! This has beena great thread! Thanks all :) It's given me a lot to try out. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 3:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. I also do not use the desktop as the storage place fore the unarchived folder[s]. I keep forgetting the remove command so I use the package manager to remove the LO packages from the previous version that was installed. Works well for me. Also, I tend to use the cd command to go to the proper folder[s] where the dpkg command is needed. Long ago, in my mainframe days, I was taught to go to the folder[s] where my files are to run them. That is what I try to do. The only time I do not is when I have a launcher icon to work with on my desktop. I prefer to use the GUI more than the terminal anyways. Easier on my fingers and my typing skills after 3 strokes. So I do things as easy as I can, or easy as I can remember to do/use. On 02/10/2013 01:06 PM, Don Myers wrote: Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply
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On 02/11/2013 01:43 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-11 12:50, Don C. Myers a écrit : Hi All, A simple copy and paste works really well!! No typing necessary. Just make sure you have the file saved as a .txt that you open with GEdit. When I was new to Linux (Ubuntu) and didn't understand anything about what the system was really doing or about the file structure, OpenOffice was updated, and it wasn't going to be included for Ubuntu users until the next update, which was three or 4 months down the road. I ran across this method as a way to update my OpenOffice without waiting. The same thing took place with the next OpenOffice release. Again I found the updated instructions on the Internet. I still use this as it is easy to update computers. I've installed Ubuntu on about 23 or so. It is also easy for a new person to Ubuntu since they don't have to understand changing directories, etc. Simple extract the download to the desktop, and then copy and paste the three commands into the terminal. Don This I also agree with as well. If the scripts fit for everyone. However, there is no sense making installing LibreOffice (the downloaded files) sound so complicated for Linux. You don't really need to know much about installing .deb's or .rpm's other than to right-click and the files and picking the right choices. That's all. In fact, if you are just installing one .deb or .rpm, on most systems, you just have to double-click on the .deb or .rpm file and it will call up the distro's installer. It's just that simple. Just like it is done on Windows. Cheers, Marc The only reason you cannot double click any of the .deb files in the install's DEBS folder is the fact that you need to make sure they are all run due to the file dependency issues. They have to be run in a certain order, sort of. It would be nice to have a double-click script that could be run that way that will run all of the .deb file in the folder, but it is not as easy as that, or that single double-clicking file/script might have been created by now. So far, needing the terminal to install packages [not all] is a problem for some users who want to switch from Windows. Also, sometimes the double-clicked package installs do not even make a menu or desktop launcher icon, so you have to go into the bin or other folder and create your own launcher icon. I had to do that for the Canon Scanning package. It was /usr/bin/scangearmp and how many new users to Linux would know how to create a launcher or where the command was stored? More people might move over to Linux if package were easier to install on Ubuntu, Mint, and others. We all got spoiled on doing a double-click on the install file [.exe or .msi] and it will place the package icon in the menu system [Start] and place a launch icon on the desktop for ease of use. Yes, we got spoiled, but it was easier. I do not know how to add the Canon Scan Gear package to the Ubuntu Applications menu. Wish I did. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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Hi :) But that is kinda one of the points i was making earlier. The package manager usually does all the installing and maintenance of programs for you. Heck, mostly there are plenty enough programs to do anything you might want right from the get go. It's only when we want to be awkward and try weird things that it can get tricky and that is true of any OS, including Windows. This thread was not about your cannon printer. Perhaps start a new thread about that as i have a few ideas that would be very off-topic in this thread. Regards from Tom :) From: webmaster-Kracked_P_P webmas...@krackedpress.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 19:04 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/11/2013 01:43 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-11 12:50, Don C. Myers a écrit : Hi All, A simple copy and paste works really well!! No typing necessary. Just make sure you have the file saved as a .txt that you open with GEdit. When I was new to Linux (Ubuntu) and didn't understand anything about what the system was really doing or about the file structure, OpenOffice was updated, and it wasn't going to be included for Ubuntu users until the next update, which was three or 4 months down the road. I ran across this method as a way to update my OpenOffice without waiting. The same thing took place with the next OpenOffice release. Again I found the updated instructions on the Internet. I still use this as it is easy to update computers. I've installed Ubuntu on about 23 or so. It is also easy for a new person to Ubuntu since they don't have to understand changing directories, etc. Simple extract the download to the desktop, and then copy and paste the three commands into the terminal. Don This I also agree with as well. If the scripts fit for everyone. However, there is no sense making installing LibreOffice (the downloaded files) sound so complicated for Linux. You don't really need to know much about installing .deb's or .rpm's other than to right-click and the files and picking the right choices. That's all. In fact, if you are just installing one .deb or .rpm, on most systems, you just have to double-click on the .deb or .rpm file and it will call up the distro's installer. It's just that simple. Just like it is done on Windows. Cheers, Marc The only reason you cannot double click any of the .deb files in the install's DEBS folder is the fact that you need to make sure they are all run due to the file dependency issues. They have to be run in a certain order, sort of. It would be nice to have a double-click script that could be run that way that will run all of the .deb file in the folder, but it is not as easy as that, or that single double-clicking file/script might have been created by now. So far, needing the terminal to install packages [not all] is a problem for some users who want to switch from Windows. Also, sometimes the double-clicked package installs do not even make a menu or desktop launcher icon, so you have to go into the bin or other folder and create your own launcher icon. I had to do that for the Canon Scanning package. It was /usr/bin/scangearmp and how many new users to Linux would know how to create a launcher or where the command was stored? More people might move over to Linux if package were easier to install on Ubuntu, Mint, and others. We all got spoiled on doing a double-click on the install file [.exe or .msi] and it will place the package icon in the menu system [Start] and place a launch icon on the desktop for ease of use. Yes, we got spoiled, but it was easier. I do not know how to add the Canon Scan Gear package to the Ubuntu Applications menu. Wish I did. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) With most GnuLinux's LibreOffice is installed by default so you don't need to install anything unless you really want to make life tricky and go for the cutting-edge. Some have OpenOffice instead but that is still fairly similar and can edit pretty much all the same file formats. (LO added a few extra ones recently). A few have Gnome Office or KOffice/Caligra but again they use the same formats. So, this thread is really only about getting the cutting-edge 4.0.0 Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 18:48 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb Le 2013-02-11 13:05, Dan Lewis a écrit : There are a variety of ways to install LO for Debian OS's. Some are harder than others, and some are easier. What no one has mentioned is the use of script files. They will do much of the work for you. Planning how to install the Deb files is important. If you have LO from your OS, you need to use Synaptic (Step#1 mentioned above.) But this is the only time you need to do this. dpkg (installs the Deb files) writes the new files over the existing files. There is no need to remove them. Extract the installation folder and always place it in the same location. (This is important for the contents of the script file.) Example of the script file: #!/bin/sh cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/ sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb This looks like a lot of typing, but it is not really. Besides much of it is used over and over again. The third line is the longest. cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/ is the location for the installation folder that you extracted. LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US is the name of that folder. I do not like to type long names like the name of the installation folder, so I look for a short cut. I use the file browser (Nautilus) to go to this folder's location, I can right click on the folder and select Properties. There at the top is the folder's name highlighted. Ctrl+C copies the name, and I paste it into the third line. I also erase the name of the previous folder. Another method: erase the number of the previous LO version and type in the new number. In this case, replace 3.6.5.2 with 4.0.0.3. What this does: installs the Deb files and desktop integration items. The script file needs to be executable when it was first created. To do this right click the script file, select Properties - Permissions. Click the box labelled Allow executing the file as a program. The location of the script file might be important also. So actual steps to install 4.0.0.3: 1) Download the file to /home/dan/Downloads/LO/. 2) Extract the downloaded file to the same location. 3) Update the third line of the script file using either method using gedit. 4) In the file browser, double click the script file. 5) Click the button Run in Terminal. 6) Type your password. 7) Close the terminal. The first two steps involve only clicks. Step 3 can involve only using the mouse, or typing 4 digits and 3 periods. Only step 6 involves typing with the rest done by mouse clicks. --Dan Yes, but a newcomer to Linux who wished to install LibreOffice on her/his distro would not know this, and hopefully, would just do what most people would do and unpack the compressed files and double-click the .deb's or .rpm's ... or select all of them - right-click and choose to open with the file manager. I don't believe we are doing our users any service by suggesting all of these convoluted ways of installing. Let's promote the easy and straight forward. it really simple. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/11/2013 01:48 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-11 13:05, Dan Lewis a écrit : There are a variety of ways to install LO for Debian OS's. Some are harder than others, and some are easier. What no one has mentioned is the use of script files. They will do much of the work for you. Planning how to install the Deb files is important. If you have LO from your OS, you need to use Synaptic (Step#1 mentioned above.) But this is the only time you need to do this. dpkg (installs the Deb files) writes the new files over the existing files. There is no need to remove them. Extract the installation folder and always place it in the same location. (This is important for the contents of the script file.) Example of the script file: #!/bin/sh cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/ sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb This looks like a lot of typing, but it is not really. Besides much of it is used over and over again. The third line is the longest. cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/ is the location for the installation folder that you extracted. LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US is the name of that folder. I do not like to type long names like the name of the installation folder, so I look for a short cut. I use the file browser (Nautilus) to go to this folder's location, I can right click on the folder and select Properties. There at the top is the folder's name highlighted. Ctrl+C copies the name, and I paste it into the third line. I also erase the name of the previous folder. Another method: erase the number of the previous LO version and type in the new number. In this case, replace 3.6.5.2 with 4.0.0.3. What this does: installs the Deb files and desktop integration items. The script file needs to be executable when it was first created. To do this right click the script file, select Properties - Permissions. Click the box labelled Allow executing the file as a program. The location of the script file might be important also. So actual steps to install 4.0.0.3: 1) Download the file to /home/dan/Downloads/LO/. 2) Extract the downloaded file to the same location. 3) Update the third line of the script file using either method using gedit. 4) In the file browser, double click the script file. 5) Click the button Run in Terminal. 6) Type your password. 7) Close the terminal. The first two steps involve only clicks. Step 3 can involve only using the mouse, or typing 4 digits and 3 periods. Only step 6 involves typing with the rest done by mouse clicks. --Dan Yes, but a newcomer to Linux who wished to install LibreOffice on her/his distro would not know this, and hopefully, would just do what most people would do and unpack the compressed files and double-click the .deb's or .rpm's ... or select all of them - right-click and choose to open with the file manager. I don't believe we are doing our users any service by suggesting all of these convoluted ways of installing. Let's promote the easy and straight forward. it really simple. Cheers, Marc All well and good, but the simple way that you suggest will present problems for the newcomer on Debian OS's. The desktop-integration file will not install if the LO that came with the OS install CD remains: it must be removed. Without doing this, you can not right click on a file and select a LO version to open the file. We used to use Synaptic to remove an installed program or install a program from the Ubuntu repositories. A few years ago Ubuntu no longer included this package manager when it went to using the Unity desktop. (Synaptic was a part of the gnome desktop package.) In its place, Ubuntu introduced the Ubuntu Software Center. It appears that programs can also be removed using it, but only if they came from the Ubuntu repositories. Right now I have LO 3.6.5.2 and 4.0.0.3 installed from the website. Neither of these are listed in Ubuntu Software Center, so it can not be used to remove them. I just checked out your first paragraph. What you wrote does not work for installing LO in Ubuntu. (It probably will not work for any of the Debian OS's, but I only have Ubuntu and can not check the others.) The only thing that works is to think about the specific steps that must be followed and determine how to do them either on the command line or using a script. You may want to call these convoluted, but at least they work. --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Not quite right, Tom. This is about installing LibreOffice on Ubuntu that is downloaded from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/ or installing Apache OpenOffice (or earlier versions of OO.o) downloading from its website. It is also about including either of these programs present in the Menu or Dash. --Dan On 02/11/2013 03:41 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) With most GnuLinux's LibreOffice is installed by default so you don't need to install anything unless you really want to make life tricky and go for the cutting-edge. Some have OpenOffice instead but that is still fairly similar and can edit pretty much all the same file formats. (LO added a few extra ones recently). A few have Gnome Office or KOffice/Caligra but again they use the same formats. So, this thread is really only about getting the cutting-edge 4.0.0 Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Monday, 11 February 2013, 18:48 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb Le 2013-02-11 13:05, Dan Lewis a écrit : There are a variety of ways to install LO for Debian OS's. Some are harder than others, and some are easier. What no one has mentioned is the use of script files. They will do much of the work for you. Planning how to install the Deb files is important. If you have LO from your OS, you need to use Synaptic (Step#1 mentioned above.) But this is the only time you need to do this. dpkg (installs the Deb files) writes the new files over the existing files. There is no need to remove them. Extract the installation folder and always place it in the same location. (This is important for the contents of the script file.) Example of the script file: #!/bin/sh cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US/DEBS/ sudo dpkg -i *.deb cd desktop-integration sudo dpkg -i *.deb This looks like a lot of typing, but it is not really. Besides much of it is used over and over again. The third line is the longest. cd /home/dan/Downloads/LO/ is the location for the installation folder that you extracted. LibO_3.6.5.2_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US is the name of that folder. I do not like to type long names like the name of the installation folder, so I look for a short cut. I use the file browser (Nautilus) to go to this folder's location, I can right click on the folder and select Properties. There at the top is the folder's name highlighted. Ctrl+C copies the name, and I paste it into the third line. I also erase the name of the previous folder. Another method: erase the number of the previous LO version and type in the new number. In this case, replace 3.6.5.2 with 4.0.0.3. What this does: installs the Deb files and desktop integration items. The script file needs to be executable when it was first created. To do this right click the script file, select Properties - Permissions. Click the box labelled Allow executing the file as a program. The location of the script file might be important also. So actual steps to install 4.0.0.3: 1) Download the file to /home/dan/Downloads/LO/. 2) Extract the downloaded file to the same location. 3) Update the third line of the script file using either method using gedit. 4) In the file browser, double click the script file. 5) Click the button Run in Terminal. 6) Type your password. 7) Close the terminal. The first two steps involve only clicks. Step 3 can involve only using the mouse, or typing 4 digits and 3 periods. Only step 6 involves typing with the rest done by mouse clicks. --Dan Yes, but a newcomer to Linux who wished to install LibreOffice on her/his distro would not know this, and hopefully, would just do what most people would do and unpack the compressed files and double-click the .deb's or .rpm's ... or select all of them - right-click and choose to open with the file manager. I don't believe we are doing our users any service by suggesting all of these convoluted ways of installing. Let's promote the easy and straight forward. it really simple. Cheers, Marc -- Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com http://www.parEntreprise.com parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF) parEntreprise.com Supports http://www.LibreOffice.org -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/11/2013 05:59 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Hi Tim, Le 2013-02-11 14:04, webmaster-Kracked_P_P a écrit : So far, needing the terminal to install packages [not all] is a problem for some users who want to switch from Windows. Also, sometimes the double-clicked package installs do not even make a menu or desktop launcher icon, so you have to go into the bin or other folder and create your own launcher icon. I had to do that for the Canon Scanning package. It was /usr/bin/scangearmp and how many new users to Linux would know how to create a launcher or where the command was stored? Not sure about the other deb software, but we do supply this in our packages, it's in the main packagage-desktop integration -libreoffice4.0-freedesktop-menus-4.0.0-103.noarch. I am not sure if the Ubuntu's Unity adheres to the standard, but Gnome and KDE do. As for getting it on your desktop, grab it and drop on your desktop, you normally get prompted if you want a copy, link. Cheers, Marc The one that is in Ubuntu is named - libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb This is the menu guide I think for Debian desktop-integration. ?package(libreoffice-writer):needs=X11 section=Apps/Editors\ title=LibreOffice 4.0 Writer command=libreoffice4.0 -writer\ hints=Word Processors\ kderemove=y\ icon=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/libreoffice4.0-writer.png\ icon16x16=/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/libreoffice4.0-writer.png This is for the RPM version you have. There are 3 different ones in the RPM desktop-integration package. ?package(libreoffice4.0-writer): needs=x11 section=Office/Wordprocessors icon=libreoffice4.0-writer.png title=LibreOffice 4.0 Writer longtitle=LibreOffice 4.0 Word Processing Component command=libreoffice4.0 -writer mimetypes=application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text,application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-template,application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-web,application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-master,application/vnd.sun.xml.writer,application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.template,application/vnd.sun.xml.writer.global,application/vnd.stardivision.writer,application/msword,application/vnd.ms-word,application/x-doc,application/rtf kde_opt=InitialPreference=100 startup_notify=true The problem is not getting it on my desktop or panel, but to get a listing in the Applications menu when the package does not list the package in say Applications/Office where it should be listed, but not. I know how to make a launcher icon on the desktop for my Canon Scanner package, but not how to get it in the /Office menu or the /Graphics menu where it should belong. The Canon scanning system will not work with XSane, like my Epson scanner does [since I went to Ubuntu 12.04/12.10]. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/11/2013 06:14 PM, Marc Paré wrote: Le 2013-02-11 17:01, Dan Lewis a écrit : All well and good, but the simple way that you suggest will present problems for the newcomer on Debian OS's. The desktop-integration file will not install if the LO that came with the OS install CD remains: it must be removed. Without doing this, you can not right click on a file and select a LO version to open the file. We used to use Synaptic to remove an installed program or install a program from the Ubuntu repositories. A few years ago Ubuntu no longer included this package manager when it went to using the Unity desktop. (Synaptic was a part of the gnome desktop package.) In its place, Ubuntu introduced the Ubuntu Software Center. It appears that programs can also be removed using it, but only if they came from the Ubuntu repositories. Right now I have LO 3.6.5.2 and 4.0.0.3 installed from the website. Neither of these are listed in Ubuntu Software Center, so it can not be used to remove them. I just checked out your first paragraph. What you wrote does not work for installing LO in Ubuntu. (It probably will not work for any of the Debian OS's, but I only have Ubuntu and can not check the others.) The only thing that works is to think about the specific steps that must be followed and determine how to do them either on the command line or using a script. You may want to call these convoluted, but at least they work. --Dan Thanks for the information Dan. I will install Ubuntu on a spare box and test these out. I for one am for simplifying the notes on the .rpm section and adding a more simplified intallation routine of the 4 steps which do work for users who install the most used default managers as Gnome or KDE managers. We should also try to find a visual installation routine for our Ubuntu users. The vast majority of users are just interested in using the software. Is some wish to install the latest and the bleeding edge versions, we need to make it an easy install. We are looking for more contributors in all of our teams and especially QA. IMO, we should try to get our betas/rc's into the hands of users interested in QA who actually use LibreOffice in a productive way. The installation barrier should not become such a burden that such users would cringe at the very thought of installing these pre-release versions. When doing QA, users are often installing newer version of LibreOffice in a very short order of time. Cheers, Marc I think we need to make it as easy as possible for our users [ Windows/Mac/Linux ] to install the newest version of LO to replace the older ones. I really think it is not Windows vs. Linux, but how we can make it easy for all users, no matter what OS they use. MS has an installer build into the .msi package. We need to do something like that for Linux. HP has a package like sh hplip-3.11.3a.run that is run in the terminal that walks you through the install process for the Linux printing. There are a lot of complex things going on, including a make option in there. How easy would it be to create something like that? -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Tom I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it. On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
2013/2/9 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**soffice. (Note, you could use sbase, scalc, etc. instead of soffice.) When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add /opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw, simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with it. What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do with this though.) file:///home/dan/Screenshot%**20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:**50.png --Dan I have the legacy Version 3.6.0.1 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:101)) om my main box, running 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 with the Cinnamon environment and, not surprisingly, entering »soffice« from the command line lauches that version of LO. I installed version 4.0.0.3 a couple of days ago, and if I instead perform »/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice« it is that version which will launch. What I should like to do is to entirely replace the former with the latter (with which, so far, I am very happy), so that when I run »soffice« in a terminal or click my LO icons in Cinnamon, it is LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 which launches instead of 3.6.0.1. Any suggestions - with all the gory details - as to how to best go about this ?... Henri -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just reinstall the one you do want. There has to be a lot of better ways to do this though! Regards from Tom :) From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com To: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Cc: LibreOffice, users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 18:02 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb 2013/2/9 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**soffice. (Note, you could use sbase, scalc, etc. instead of soffice.) When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add /opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw, simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with it. What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do with this though.) file:///home/dan/Screenshot%**20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:**50.png --Dan I have the legacy Version 3.6.0.1 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:101)) om my main box, running 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 with the Cinnamon environment and, not surprisingly, entering »soffice« from the command line lauches that version of LO. I installed version 4.0.0.3 a couple of days ago, and if I instead perform »/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice« it is that version which will launch. What I should like to do is to entirely replace the former with the latter (with which, so far, I am very happy), so that when I run »soffice« in a terminal or click my LO icons in Cinnamon, it is LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 which launches instead of 3.6.0.1. Any suggestions - with all the gory details - as to how to best go about this ?... Henri -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to where you wish to have them in the launcher bar. If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following: The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common An install as shown above does not have any repository from which it originated. Therefore there aren't any updates, which I understand. If it showed up as an installed program, Ubuntu would try to update the LibreOffice with its own version which would lead to a royal mess!! I did not get a message saying there is a missing package like you did. Don On 02/10/2013 09:59 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Tom I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it. On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 10/02/13 18:13, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just reinstall the one you do want. There has to be a lot of better ways to do this though! Regards from Tom :) From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com To: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Cc: LibreOffice, users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 18:02 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb 2013/2/9 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**soffice. (Note, you could use sbase, scalc, etc. instead of soffice.) When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add /opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw, simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with it. What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do with this though.) file:///home/dan/Screenshot%**20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:**50.png --Dan I have the legacy Version 3.6.0.1 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:101)) om my main box, running 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 with the Cinnamon environment and, not surprisingly, entering »soffice« from the command line lauches that version of LO. I installed version 4.0.0.3 a couple of days ago, and if I instead perform »/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice« it is that version which will launch. What I should like to do is to entirely replace the former with the latter (with which, so far, I am very happy), so that when I run »soffice« in a terminal or click my LO icons in Cinnamon, it is LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 which launches instead of 3.6.0.1. Any suggestions - with all the gory details - as to how to best go about this ?... Henri -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Henri/ Tom This is probably the best way for future reference. Run synaptic and select for complete removal all instances of the LibreOffice-3.6.0.1, including Uno, apply changes. You should then be able to run LibO 4 from either a menu, the terminal or from a customised launcher on the panel. In terms of simplicity, FWIW, I have always used the option of adding an application launcher to my panel, and selecting the application I want installed. HtH -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi Tom, This method should uninstall all LibreOffice versions at one time. I've seen one person recommend using a purge command also to make sure all LibreOffice elements are removed. This method really works very well. Just paste three commands in a terminal and you have a complete new version. The install process this way is fast. I think significantly faster than if you were installing an upgrade in Windows. The only downside to this method is if you wanted multiple versions installed at one time. Don On 02/10/2013 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just reinstall the one you do want. There has to be a lot of better ways to do this though! Regards from Tom :) From: M Henri Day mhenri...@gmail.com To: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com Cc: LibreOffice, users users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 18:02 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb 2013/2/9 Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/**soffice. (Note, you could use sbase, scalc, etc. instead of soffice.) When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add /opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw, simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with it. What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do with this though.) file:///home/dan/Screenshot%**20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:**50.png --Dan I have the legacy Version 3.6.0.1 (Build ID: 360m1(Build:101)) om my main box, running 64-bit Ubuntu 12.04 with the Cinnamon environment and, not surprisingly, entering »soffice« from the command line lauches that version of LO. I installed version 4.0.0.3 a couple of days ago, and if I instead perform »/opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice« it is that version which will launch. What I should like to do is to entirely replace the former with the latter (with which, so far, I am very happy), so that when I run »soffice« in a terminal or click my LO icons in Cinnamon, it is LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 which launches instead of 3.6.0.1. Any suggestions - with all the gory details - as to how to best go about this ?... Henri -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
2013/2/10 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com Hi Tom, This method should uninstall all LibreOffice versions at one time. I've seen one person recommend using a purge command also to make sure all LibreOffice elements are removed. This method really works very well. Just paste three commands in a terminal and you have a complete new version. The install process this way is fast. I think significantly faster than if you were installing an upgrade in Windows. The only downside to this method is if you wanted multiple versions installed at one time. Don On 02/10/2013 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just reinstall the one you do want. There has to be a lot of better ways to do this though! Regards from Tom :) ... After posting above, I remembered that I'd actually done this sort of thing before, but with a twist, i e, creating icons for and links to the new version while retaining the earlier one. In the Cinnamon menu I clicked on Main Menu and then «Add new object» and filled in the necessary information and commands, i e, /opt/libre4.0/program/swriter for Writer. The customary LibreOffice icons were found under, e g, /user/share/icons/gnome/48x48/apps. I now can access LibreOffice 4.0 functions with a simple click on my Cinnamon top panel, just the way I like it. Thanks to all who replied with suggestions !... Henri -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
I installed it with no problems using the procedure outlined at: http://mylinuxexplore.blogspot.com/2013/02/ubuntu-precise-install-libreoffice-400.html. I'm really liking 4.0 so far... On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi Henri, I'm glad you have everything working well, and in the manner which you like! Don On 02/10/2013 02:40 PM, M Henri Day wrote: 2013/2/10 Don Myers donmy...@myersfarm.com Hi Tom, This method should uninstall all LibreOffice versions at one time. I've seen one person recommend using a purge command also to make sure all LibreOffice elements are removed. This method really works very well. Just paste three commands in a terminal and you have a complete new version. The install process this way is fast. I think significantly faster than if you were installing an upgrade in Windows. The only downside to this method is if you wanted multiple versions installed at one time. Don On 02/10/2013 01:13 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) my extremely inelegant way would be to uninstall both and then just reinstall the one you do want. There has to be a lot of better ways to do this though! Regards from Tom :) ... After posting above, I remembered that I'd actually done this sort of thing before, but with a twist, i e, creating icons for and links to the new version while retaining the earlier one. In the Cinnamon menu I clicked on Main Menu and then «Add new object» and filled in the necessary information and commands, i e, /opt/libre4.0/program/swriter for Writer. The customary LibreOffice icons were found under, e g, /user/share/icons/gnome/48x48/apps. I now can access LibreOffice 4.0 functions with a simple click on my Cinnamon top panel, just the way I like it. Thanks to all who replied with suggestions !... Henri -- ** -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
I do not like all that typing. What I do is use the default file manager and double click the archived file and unarchive it. Then I take the folder that is created and rename it to Lib or LibO. That way you do not need to type all of the characters of the folder's name. I also do not use the desktop as the storage place fore the unarchived folder[s]. I keep forgetting the remove command so I use the package manager to remove the LO packages from the previous version that was installed. Works well for me. Also, I tend to use the cd command to go to the proper folder[s] where the dpkg command is needed. Long ago, in my mainframe days, I was taught to go to the folder[s] where my files are to run them. That is what I try to do. The only time I do not is when I have a launcher icon to work with on my desktop. I prefer to use the GUI more than the terminal anyways. Easier on my fingers and my typing skills after 3 strokes. So I do things as easy as I can, or easy as I can remember to do/use. On 02/10/2013 01:06 PM, Don Myers wrote: Tom, I used the following instructions to upgrade to LibreOffice 4.0.0.3 on three machines with Ubuntu 12.10. It has worked really well so far. No issues installing or using it. The bug that made some functions in Base run unacceptably slow have been fixed!!! *Instructions for the 64 Bit Debian Version:* Download LibreOffice_4.0.0.3 to the desktop. Right click on it and extract it to the desktop. This will give you the folder LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb Run the following terminal commands to install it: 1. sudo apt-get remove libreoffice*.* 2. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/*.deb 3. sudo dpkg -i ~/Desktop/LibreOffice_4.0.0.3_Linux_x86-64_deb/DEBS/desktop-integration/libreoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0.0-103_all.deb 4. If using Unity, Open Dash, type Libre and you will see the different components (Writer, Calc, etc.). Simply drag the icons for them over to where you wish to have them in the launcher bar. If you install it in this manner using the official Document Foundation version, and you type libreoffice in the command line, I get the following: The program 'libreoffice' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install libreoffice-common An install as shown above does not have any repository from which it originated. Therefore there aren't any updates, which I understand. If it showed up as an installed program, Ubuntu would try to update the LibreOffice with its own version which would lead to a royal mess!! I did not get a message saying there is a missing package like you did. Don On 02/10/2013 09:59 AM, webmaster-Kracked_P_P wrote: Tom I ram the install on Linux Mint 14 and had no troubles with it. On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) Thanks :) I was wondering if it was just me weirding out on 1 machine. I feel a bit more comfortable rolling it out now then :) I suspect there is some sort of list of dependencies somewhere that needs to be edited. Regards from Tom :) From: Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 21:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Jay Lozier wrote: snip Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Jay, Have you tried soffice or unambiguously: /opt/libreofficeversion/program/soffice? soffice is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Some day, it will be changed, but I am not sure 4.x is it yet. I have not installed 4.x yet, so I am not sure of that. Note that soffice is a script which does a lot of setup. It eventually invokes soffice.bin, which should not be invoked directly from the command line. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice. (Note, you could use sbase, scalc, etc. instead of soffice.) When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add /opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw, simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with it. What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do with this though.) file:///home/dan/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:50.png --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
On 02/09/2013 05:16 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Jay Lozier wrote: snip Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Jay, Have you tried soffice or unambiguously: /opt/libreofficeversion/program/soffice? soffice is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Some day, it will be changed, but I am not sure 4.x is it yet. I have not installed 4.x yet, so I am not sure of that. Note that soffice is a script which does a lot of setup. It eventually invokes soffice.bin, which should not be invoked directly from the command line. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr I did try soffice but not the full path. soffice did not work and when I tried /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice it worked. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 05:16 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: Jay Lozier wrote: snip Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Jay, Have you tried soffice or unambiguously: /opt/libreofficeversion/program/soffice? soffice is a legacy name from the StarOffice days. Some day, it will be changed, but I am not sure 4.x is it yet. I have not installed 4.x yet, so I am not sure of that. Note that soffice is a script which does a lot of setup. It eventually invokes soffice.bin, which should not be invoked directly from the command line. Hope this helps. Girvin Herr I did try soffice but not the full path. soffice did not work and when I tried /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice it worked. Jay, That means you need to add the /opt/libreoffice4.0/program path to your $PATH environment variable. Dan has already mentioned that in this thread. You can try export PATH=/opt/libreoffice4.0/program:$PATH to add it until you log out. However, to permanently add it when you log in, you will need to add the statement to your .bash_profile script in your home directory. This is, of course, if you are using the bash shell. If you are using another shell, then it will be slightly different. Another trick I do so I don't have to keep changing these each time I update, is to create a /opt/bin directory and then create a symlink in that directory which points to the soffice script. That way all I need to change is what the symlink points to when I install a new LO version, leaving /opt/bin unchanged in the $PATH variable. Another advantage to this is that you can have several different symlinks in /opt/bin pointing to different versions of LO or other programs, without changing $PATH. Girvin -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb
Hi :) I got my taskbar icon / Launcher icon / whatever the word is now, sorted by opening a document and then right-clicking on the icon that appeared in the task-bar-type-thing and chose Lock to taskbar. Now i just click on that to open a blank Writer document. Regards from Tom :) From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 22:28 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing the Deb On 02/09/2013 04:21 PM, Jay Lozier wrote: On 02/09/2013 03:07 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I downloaded the .Deb for Ubuntu (and others) twice yday and tried installing it as per instructions but when i tried running LibreOffice from the command-line by typing in libreoffice I got an error message saying that LibreOffice couldn't run because i was missing a package called something like libreoffice-common when i looked through all the packages in the Deb and desktop integration folders i found there was one! I'm sure it's been there in previous releases?! However when i double-click on a docX or odt or anything then LibreOffice 4 does successfully open it. So, it's a bit weird but doesn't seem to be problem unless i try that odd way of opening LO in a way that i would never normally have tried unless i wanted to try to collect error reports and stuff (ie never). Regards from Tom :) Tom I confirm the CLI libreoffice gives the error missing libreoffice-common run sudo apt-get libreoffice-common. This was using LO 4.0 (direct download) and Mint 13 Maya. All the features have beens installed including help-pack and SDK LO 4.0 does run when menu or file is clicked. What is the CLI entry to run LO 4.0 in Linux I think is the question. Command line to run LO 4.0 (or earlier versions as well) in linux: /opt/libreoffice4.0/program/soffice. (Note, you could use sbase, scalc, etc. instead of soffice.) When Ubuntu installs it version of LO, it puts a script that starts LO in Path$. So, if you want to use the command line, add /opt/libreoffice4.0/program to Path$. Then use sbase, scalc, sdraw, simpress, or soffice in the command line. Ubuntu will know what to do with it. What I do is to add a menu to the top panel. Within it, I have the icons (tools?) that will open the particular version of a program such as LO that I want. You have to edit the Applications menu first creating a new menu. Then add the new menu to the top panel. (There is a little more to do with this though.) file:///home/dan/Screenshot%20from%202013-02-09%2017:23:50.png --Dan -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- For unsubscribe instructions e-mail to: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
