On 12 September 2013 16:10, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
I think you'll need to upgrade LO to 4.0.5. When I was running 4.0.2 on my
Linux Mint system, the itlc feature didn't work for me either. After I
upgraded to LO 4.0.5, it began working. Don't ask me why.
Why? :-)
On 09/12/2013 02:49 PM, T. R. Valentine wrote:
That is similar to what I want it to do for me. But I can't seem to
get the italic function to work. I've tried making the value 0, 1, and
2, and can see absolutely no difference, even when using the example
in the help page ('a ileaf/i louse').
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From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:07 AM
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
For me, I try to stay away from fonts that require me to pay for them.
If it came with an OS, that is one thing, but if I
On 11 September 2013 12:52, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
Keep in mind that the typography toolbar is a graphical user interface
option for gaining access to the features. I've found that, sometimes, it
doesn't work as well as actually inserting the codes into the font name.
I
On 09/10/2013 11:43 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:32:48 -0400 doug dijo:
Whatever is the wonderful one, I'll try it and see if is appeals to
me over just everyday Times-Roman.
I have LO 3.5.7.2 on a recent fresh install and up to date Xubuntu
12.04. I have done a lot of
Kracked_P_P wrote:
[snip]
First - - -
Everyone has their own opinion of which font is the most wonderful one
that they have used.
Second - - -
There are a few ideas on what a book font is, but for me a book font
is one that is really easy to read for extended periods, like in a
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 07:34:15 -0400
Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com dijo:
On 09/10/2013 11:43 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:32:48 -0400 doug dijo:
I downloaded and installed Linux Libertine from the Ubuntu repos, and
also installed the typography toolbar 1.1. The
John Jason Jordan wrote:
I'm also curious why this works only with the LinuxLibertineG
fonts. Adobe InDesign had these features 14 years ago, and
they have always worked with any OTF font installed on the
computer . . .
The reason is that Graphite and Opentype (OTF) are rival formats for
for Extensions, fonts or
layouts.
Regards from
Tom :)
From: John Jason Jordan joh...@comcast.net
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2013, 4:43
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:32:48
On 09/11/2013 01:10 PM, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote:
John Jason Jordan wrote:
I'm also curious why this works only with the LinuxLibertineG
fonts. Adobe InDesign had these features 14 years ago, and
they have always worked with any OTF font installed on the
computer . . .
The reason is that
On Wednesday 11 September 2013 10:52:42 AM Virgil Arrington wrote:
These codes do the following:
onum=1 (Turn on Old Style Numbering)
itlc=2 (Adjust the spacing around italics text) Without this, the
italics text gets jammed up next to the adjacent Roman text.
lith=0 (Don't use a Th
On 09/11/2013 02:40 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:
On Wednesday 11 September 2013 10:52:42 AM Virgil Arrington wrote:
These codes do the following:
onum=1 (Turn on Old Style Numbering)
itlc=2 (Adjust the spacing around italics text) Without this, the
italics text gets jammed up next to the
On 09/11/2013 12:31 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
That was the problem. The version in the Ubuntu repos was not the G
version. Thanks for pointing that out. However, not all of the
features are working, or maybe I don't understand how to use them. All
ligature styles, small caps, old style
On 9 September 2013 06:57, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote:
However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G,
has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent
typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version, 4.0.5, seems to work
Libertine G have really gelled nicely together.
Virgil
-Original Message-
From: T. R. Valentine
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:21 AM
To: LibreOffice-list
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
On 9 September 2013 06:57, Virgil Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com wrote
On 9/10/2013 7:52 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 07:45 PM, Doug wrote:
On 09/09/2013 06:04 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
[snip, snip]
This is where Linux Libertine G comes in. Although it is modeled after
Times, it's not quite
On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:32:48 -0400 doug dijo:
Whatever is the wonderful one, I'll try it and see if is appeals to
me over just everyday Times-Roman.
I have LO 3.5.7.2 on a recent fresh install and up to date Xubuntu
12.04. I have done a lot of DTP since I bought my first computer in
1978,
Jonathan wrote,
I think the avoidance of true small caps and old style numbering has more
to
do with the practice of font creators, most of whom omit these features.
That might be true for FLOSS font creators. It is not true for the
foundries whose fonts are in the 4+ digit price range.
On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]
However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux
Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all.
It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable version,
4.0.5, seems to work very well with it. (Despite
On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]
However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux
Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all.
It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO stable
On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]
However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux
Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all.
It's an
On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
[snip, snip]
I am a font person, and do not use the Libertine and Biolinium fonts
often. But I agree with your statement that each version of LO is
displaying and printing better than the last one, some some people. The
graphics engine
On 09/09/13 19:49, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]
However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux
Libertine G, has many expert
On 09/09/2013 05:59 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
On 09/09/13 19:49, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote:
On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote:
[cut]
However, LO has one wonderful advantage.
On 09/09/2013 06:04 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
[snip, snip]
This is where Linux Libertine G comes in. Although it is modeled after
Times, it's not quite as condensed, so it works better for longer
documents. But, with LO, one has
On 09/09/2013 06:04 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote:
On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:
[snip, snip]
I am a font person, and do not use the Libertine and Biolinium fonts
often. But I agree with your statement that each version of LO is
displaying and printing better than the
At 12:49 07/09/2013 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
In Writer, FrameMaker and the TeX family, a document consists of a
continuous stream of text. If you insert additional text at the
beginning, all the text moves down, including the creation of new
pages at the end if necessary.
The other
On Sun, 08 Sep 2013 09:36:29 +0100
Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com dijo:
Writer won't do everything, but you appear not to realise what it can
do. Writer has frames, which can indeed be anchored to pages, and
have the sort of properties you describe. It also allows linked
frames. The
At 07:23 08/09/2013 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Of course I was aware that Writer has frames that can be linked.
How strange, then, that you should suggest otherwise in your
message! (None of us can read your mind, of course.)
Do you use writer to lay out a magazine? Do you recommend
...@btinternet.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sunday, 8 September 2013, 15:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
At 07:23 08/09/2013 -0700, John Jason Jordan wrote:
Of course I was aware that Writer has frames that can be linked.
How strange, then, that you should
At 16:08 08/09/2013 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
I think John was trying to describe Framemaker and how it differs from Writer.
Unsurprisingly, I was commenting on what he said (not what someone
else thinks he was trying to do) and thinking of its effect on his
large audience on this list.
@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
At 16:08 08/09/2013 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
I think John was trying to describe Framemaker and how it differs from
Writer.
Unsurprisingly, I was commenting on what he said (not what someone
else thinks he
On 09/07/2013 06:08 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote:
No, they're not, actually. You don't find publishers using MS Word files,
which are simply not up to the job.
I don't know what publishers you are looking at, but all of the
publishers whose submission guidelines I've read, have requested files
in
On 09/07/2013 06:08 PM, jonathon wrote:
I don't know what publishers you are looking at, but all of the
publishers whose submission guidelines I've read, have requested files
in MS Doc file format. (FWIW, I've read over the submission guidelines
of over 100 publishers in the last year.)
You
At 17:35 08/09/2013 -0400, Virgil Arrington wrote:
If it helps, and I doubt it will, ...
Ho, ho! You are so unsure of your own position?
... as a member of the larger audience, I fully understood what John
was describing based on what he had written, ...
As did we all, I'm sure. But what
Ken,
I'm about as anal as they come when it comes to fonts, and I've never really
noticed much difference among the ones I use when it comes to white space
around punctuation. I'll have to give them a closer look.
As to legal papers, many lawyers do use full justification in their legal
Bruce Byfield wrote:
I know of several publishers who work directly from ODF files. With a
couple
of exceptions, Writer has most of the tools needed for a thoroughly
professional design job, allegedly because when the original code was being
written in the days of Star Division, they were told
Arrington cuyfa...@hotmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Saturday, 7 September 2013, 13:39
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation
Bruce Byfield wrote:
I know of several publishers who work directly from ODF files. With a
couple
of exceptions, Writer has most
On Friday 06 September 2013 10:47:49 PM John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:18:34 -0700
Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net dijo:
For now, I'll just say that Writer is not a word processor so much as
an intermediate desktop publishing program. You can actually
substitute it very
On Saturday 07 September 2013 05:39:41 AM Virgil Arrington wrote:
No doubt, many publishers are simply publishing the files sent to them that
are created by word processors.
L
No, they're not, actually. You don't find publishers using MS Word files,
which are simply not up to the job.
I'm
On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 10:55:55 -0700
Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net dijo:
On Friday 06 September 2013 10:47:49 PM John Jason Jordan wrote:
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:18:34 -0700
Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net dijo:
For now, I'll just say that Writer is not a word processor so much
as an
On Friday 06 September 2013 05:56:49 PM Virgil Arrington wrote:
I don't think you're missing anything, but most of us aren't using LO to
prepare the *final* version of a document for professional publication
(i.e., books, magazines, etc.). I would truly hope that a publishing
house would
On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 20:18:34 -0700
Bruce Byfield bbyfi...@axion.net dijo:
For now, I'll just say that Writer is not a word processor so much as
an intermediate desktop publishing program. You can actually
substitute it very successfully for proprietary tools like FrameMaker.
That is correct, but
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