Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-24 Thread Malcolm Moore
I am now convinced that this is bug 50784 If I change the client timeout
on the CUPS server the amount of time it takes before LO stops printing
exactly matches. In the end I have made my timeout 5400 which is 90
mins which since we are a school is OK. It's a bit of a nasty hack but
it seems to work. 


M
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From: Steve Edmonds [mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com]
To: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:41:23 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print

Hi.
  Are these PCs by any chance wireless or have power saving activated.
  I think I saw this once on my mac when it went to sleep, powered the 
  wireless down and when it woke up the printers were gone in LO.
  Can't be sure as it was a while ago.
  Steve
  
  On 2012-10-24 07:50, Malcolm Moore wrote:
   Some more experimentation led me to believe it's not random,
   it's time related  I am now minded to believe it's bug 50784
   which is posted against version 3.5.2
  
   I will investigate more tomorrow and if it is as I fear, and the bug
   continues into 3.5.4 and 3.6.1.  I will add a note to that bug report
  
   Many thanks to everyone
  
   M
  
  _
  
   From: Steve Edmonds [mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com]
   To: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
   Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:30:06 +
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
  
  
  On 2012-10-24 03:59, Malcolm Moore wrote:
   _
  
   From: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Cc: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:24:14 +
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
  
   From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
  
  On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
 As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
 print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
 and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK


 This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
 print to a single CUPS server.


 As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
 It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
 to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
 in the list.


 If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
 and re-open them and the document before it will print again.


 Any ideas ?


 Ta


 Mal


Mal
  
Are they having problems printing from other programs?
  
Are all the work stations reporting the problem?
  
My thoughts are it is:
  
1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE
  
2. A local bug in openSUSE
  
3. the print server has a bug
  
I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 
13
with a printer directly connected via USB port.
  
Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears 
up a lot
of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is 
missing
when starting up.
  
--
Jay Lozier
jsloz...@gmail.com
  
  
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  I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !
  I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
  and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.
  
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Jay Lozier

On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:

As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK


This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
print to a single CUPS server.


As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
in the list.


If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
and re-open them and the document before it will print again.


Any ideas ?


Ta


Mal



Mal

Are they having problems printing from other programs?

Are all the work stations reporting the problem?

My thoughts are it is:

1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE

2. A local bug in openSUSE

3. the print server has a bug

I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13 
with a printer directly connected via USB port.


Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a lot 
of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing 
when starting up.


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jsloz...@gmail.com


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Malcolm Moore
From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print

On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
   As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
   print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
   and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK
  
  
   This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
   print to a single CUPS server.
  
  
   As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
   It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
   to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
   in the list.
  
  
   If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
   and re-open them and the document before it will print again.
  
  
   Any ideas ?
  
  
   Ta
  
  
   Mal
  
  
  Mal
  
  Are they having problems printing from other programs?
  
  Are all the work stations reporting the problem?
  
  My thoughts are it is:
  
  1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE
  
  2. A local bug in openSUSE
  
  3. the print server has a bug
  
  I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13 
  with a printer directly connected via USB port.
  
  Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a lot 
  of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing 
  when starting up.
  
  -- 
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  jsloz...@gmail.com
  
  
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I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !
I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.


Mal
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Malcolm Moore
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From: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:24:14 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print

From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
  
  On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
 As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
 print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
 and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK


 This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
 print to a single CUPS server.


 As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
 It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
 to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
 in the list.


 If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
 and re-open them and the document before it will print again.


 Any ideas ?


 Ta


 Mal


Mal

Are they having problems printing from other programs?

Are all the work stations reporting the problem?

My thoughts are it is:

1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE

2. A local bug in openSUSE

3. the print server has a bug

I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13 
with a printer directly connected via USB port.

Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a lot 
of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing 
when starting up.

-- 
Jay Lozier
jsloz...@gmail.com


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  I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !
  I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
  and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.
  
  
  Mal
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When everything is OK - If I go to File/Printer Settings
It shows all of the available printers


When it stops printing going to File/Printer Settings
Just shows Generic Printer


It seems to happen it you  don't do anything in LO for
a while. 


I have also tried downgrading to 3.5.4 and it still happens
  
Mal  
  
  
  

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.

On 2012-10-24 03:24, Malcolm Moore wrote:

From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print

On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK
   
   
This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
print to a single CUPS server.
   
   
As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
in the list.
   
   
If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
and re-open them and the document before it will print again.
   
   
Any ideas ?
   
   
Ta
   
   
Mal
   
   
   Mal
   
   Are they having problems printing from other programs?
   
   Are all the work stations reporting the problem?
   
   My thoughts are it is:
   
   1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE
   
   2. A local bug in openSUSE
   
   3. the print server has a bug
   
   I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13

   with a printer directly connected via USB port.
   
   Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a lot

   of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing
   when starting up.
   
   --

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   jsloz...@gmail.com
   
   
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I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !
I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.


Mal
Try in FilePrinter settingsDevice and set printer language from PDF to 
PS. Just something to try as I had to do this once  to print something.

Does writer complete as if it is printing or hang.
Steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2012-10-24 03:59, Malcolm Moore wrote:

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From: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:24:14 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print

From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
   
   On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:

  As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
  print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
  and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK
 
 
  This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
  print to a single CUPS server.
 
 
  As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
  It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
  to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
  in the list.
 
 
  If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
  and re-open them and the document before it will print again.
 
 
  Any ideas ?
 
 
  Ta
 
 
  Mal
 
 
 Mal
 
 Are they having problems printing from other programs?
 
 Are all the work stations reporting the problem?
 
 My thoughts are it is:
 
 1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE
 
 2. A local bug in openSUSE
 
 3. the print server has a bug
 
 I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13

 with a printer directly connected via USB port.
 
 Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a lot

 of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing
 when starting up.
 
 --

 Jay Lozier
 jsloz...@gmail.com
 
 
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   I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !

   I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
   and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.
   
   
   Mal

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When everything is OK - If I go to File/Printer Settings
It shows all of the available printers


When it stops printing going to File/Printer Settings
Just shows Generic Printer


It seems to happen it you  don't do anything in LO for
a while.


I have also tried downgrading to 3.5.4 and it still happens
   
Mal
Hi. If your at the stage of adding/removing LO. What if you try the 
opensuse install.
I just recently updated my 12.1s to 12.2 for a more recent LO from suse. 
The upgrade option from the DVD worked well (with some bewares).

steve

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Malcolm Moore
Some more experimentation led me to believe it's not random,
it's time related  I am now minded to believe it's bug 50784
which is posted against version 3.5.2

I will investigate more tomorrow and if it is as I fear, and the bug 
continues into 3.5.4 and 3.6.1.  I will add a note to that bug report 

Many thanks to everyone 

M

  _  

From: Steve Edmonds [mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com]
To: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:30:06 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print


  On 2012-10-24 03:59, Malcolm Moore wrote:
   _
  
   From: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Cc: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
   Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:24:14 +
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
  
   From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
  To: users@global.libreoffice.org
  Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
  
  On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
 As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
 print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
 and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK


 This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
 print to a single CUPS server.


 As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
 It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
 to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
 in the list.


 If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
 and re-open them and the document before it will print again.


 Any ideas ?


 Ta


 Mal


Mal

Are they having problems printing from other programs?

Are all the work stations reporting the problem?

My thoughts are it is:

1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE

2. A local bug in openSUSE

3. the print server has a bug

I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13
with a printer directly connected via USB port.

Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a 
lot
of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing
when starting up.

--
Jay Lozier
jsloz...@gmail.com


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  I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !
  I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
  and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.
  
  
  Mal
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   More 
  
  
   When everything is OK - If I go to File/Printer Settings
   It shows all of the available printers
  
  
   When it stops printing going to File/Printer Settings
   Just shows Generic Printer
  
  
   It seems to happen it you  don't do anything in LO for
   a while.
  
  
   I have also tried downgrading to 3.5.4 and it still happens
  
   Mal
  Hi. If your at the stage of adding/removing LO. What if you try the 
  opensuse install.
  I just recently updated my 12.1s to 12.2 for a more recent LO from suse. 
  The upgrade option from the DVD worked well (with some bewares).
  steve
  
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer randomly fails to print

2012-10-23 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
Are these PCs by any chance wireless or have power saving activated.
I think I saw this once on my mac when it went to sleep, powered the 
wireless down and when it woke up the printers were gone in LO.

Can't be sure as it was a while ago.
Steve

On 2012-10-24 07:50, Malcolm Moore wrote:

Some more experimentation led me to believe it's not random,
it's time related  I am now minded to believe it's bug 50784
which is posted against version 3.5.2

I will investigate more tomorrow and if it is as I fear, and the bug
continues into 3.5.4 and 3.6.1.  I will add a note to that bug report

Many thanks to everyone

M

   _

From: Steve Edmonds [mailto:steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com]
To: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:30:06 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print


   On 2012-10-24 03:59, Malcolm Moore wrote:
_
   
From: Malcolm Moore [mailto:st-malcolm.mo...@whsg.info]
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Cc: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 15:24:14 +
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
   
From: Jay Lozier [mailto:jsloz...@gmail.com]
   To: users@global.libreoffice.org
   Sent: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 14:53:39 +
   Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Writer  randomly fails to print
   
   On 10/23/2012 09:20 AM, Malcolm Moore wrote:
  As the subject says. Occasionally users find they can't
  print. They click print and nothing happens. If they close
  and re-open Write and re-open the document it prints OK
 
 
  This is LO 3.6.1 on openSuse 12.1. The machines are set to
  print to a single CUPS server.
 
 
  As far as I can see the CUPS server never saw the print job.
  It doesn't matter which printer they use ( students have 12
  to choose from ). Once it happens you can't print to any printer
  in the list.
 
 
  If you have two copies of LO open you have to close them both
  and re-open them and the document before it will print again.
 
 
  Any ideas ?
 
 
  Ta
 
 
  Mal
 
 
 Mal
   
 Are they having problems printing from other programs?
   
 Are all the work stations reporting the problem?
   
 My thoughts are it is:
   
 1. An bug in LO; possibly specific to openSUSE
   
 2. A local bug in openSUSE
   
 3. the print server has a bug
   
 I have not had any random print problems with LO using Linux Mint 13
 with a printer directly connected via USB port.
   
 Sometimes renaming the .config/libreoffice/user/3 folder clears up a 
lot
 of problems. LO will regenerate a new default folder if it is missing
 when starting up.
   
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   I have just got my machine to stop printing! ha !
   I have tried several other apps ( Firefox, Softmaker, Gimp )
   and they can still all print.  Calc and Impress can't.
   
   
   Mal
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When everything is OK - If I go to File/Printer Settings
It shows all of the available printers
   
   
When it stops printing going to File/Printer Settings
Just shows Generic Printer
   
   
It seems to happen it you  don't do anything in LO for
a while.
   
   
I have also tried downgrading to 3.5.4 and it still happens
   
Mal
   Hi. If your at the stage of adding/removing LO. What if you try the
   opensuse install.
   I just recently updated my 12.1s to 12.2 for a more recent LO from suse.
   The upgrade option from the DVD worked well (with some bewares).
   steve
   
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