Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/18 10:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > And yet another one: > > Libre Office pulses at me > https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 I'm having no problems with LibreOffice on a fully updated F29 system (in a VM). Just to verify, maybe try creating a new user and test

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 7:28 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 10:25 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And yet another one: Libre Office pulses at me https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14863 I'm having no problems with LibreOffice on a fully updated F29 system (in a VM). Just to verify, maybe

I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T -- ~~ Computers are like air conditioners. They malfunction when you open windows ~~

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco
El vie., 9 de nov. de 2018 a la(s) 23:09, ToddAndMargo via users (users@lists.fedoraproject.org) escribió: > > Hi All, > > Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? Yes. From a Terminal: dnf -v --hidden groups list | grep -i mate `mate-desktop-environment` provides a set of packages

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. What desktop do you use? Gnome has that right at the top of the screen. ___ users mailing list --

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. What desktop do you use?  Gnome has that right at the top of the screen. I am using Xfce and the

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school. Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option.) ___ users

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T tzclock is interesting, but I can't figure out how to turn it into a digital clock ___

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:04 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/10/18 12:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? How and how do I switch back and ofrth.  Xfce is already installed Sure. Once you install MATE and restart there will be a place on the login screen to

mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Hi All, Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? How and how do I switch back and ofrth. Xfce is already installed Many thanks, -T -- A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without the mustard

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. ___ users

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/9/18 9:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is there a group install for mate? "mate-desktop" ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:49 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 9:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Is there a group install for mate? "mate-desktop" Thank you! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/10/18 12:16 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > Is it possible to install both Mate and Xfce? > > How and how do I switch back and ofrth.  Xfce > is already installed Sure. Once you install MATE and restart there will be a place on the login screen to choose which one you want to run. --

Re: Xfce 4.13 took it on the chin in FC29

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 4:14 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/4/18 10:22 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/3/18 11:33 AM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, Four machines upgraded to Fedora 29, two to go.  The last two are servers, so they are going to wait a bit. :-) Xfce 4.13 sure took

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock.  I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not

Re: mate and Xfce

2018-11-09 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/9/18 9:54 PM, Porfirio Andrés Páiz Carrasco wrote: dnf -v --hidden groups list | grep -i mate `mate-desktop-environment` provides a set of packages similar to the Fedora Mate Desktop Spin, only Compiz is missing. I should have used grep. I didn't look far enough up to see that section

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/09/2018 10:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock.  I've found

Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop

2018-11-09 Thread Paul Allen Newell
On 11/09/2018 09:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop.  Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock.  I've found

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 00:08 +, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/8/18 2:41 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Fri, 2018-11-09 at 08:02 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > > > how is linux using GMT when everything is running local. > > > > All Unix-based or Unix-derived systems, including Linux, use

App similar Winhex for Fedora

2018-11-09 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi, because of the problem, which I have described in the thread "problem file copy to external disk" I would like analyse file headers on a NTFS formatted disk with F28/F29. I think on Windows Winhex is the app. Which app can I use with F28/F29? Your answer will be very helpful. Kind regards

Re: Link-Local Only option not available on NetworkManager

2018-11-09 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 3:00 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > > > I have meanwhile filed a bug at Bugzilla against selinux-policy. > > Oh, whatever it is, it may be a duplicate of > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1641383 I do not know whether it is a duplicate or not. The bug I filed is the

Re: Link-Local Only option not available on NetworkManager

2018-11-09 Thread Paul Smith
On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:36 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > > >>> In my experience, no, permissive mode does not disable all of SELinux's > >>> blocks, and _especially_ stuff having to to with networking (including > >>> pipes). It's always bothered me. > >> Interesting. I've not run into this problem >

SELinux sandboxing of native Wayland clients

2018-11-09 Thread Joachim Frieben
SELinux sandboxing of X-based web browsers like standard Firefox using 'sandbox -X -t sandbox_web_t ..' is common and appears to works well now. I wonder whether GNOME Web (epiphany) admits a similar approach without the awkward construction of enforcing the X backend via GDK_BACKEND=x11 and

Re: App similar Winhex for Fedora

2018-11-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 04:52:28AM -0500, Joerg Lechner via users wrote: >Hi, >because of the problem, which I have described in the thread "problem >file copy to external disk" I would like analyse file headers on a NTFS >formatted disk with F28/F29. I think on Windows Winhex is

off topic -- email hosting for biz

2018-11-09 Thread bruce
Hi list. Off topic... Anyone have thoughts on "cheap/reliable" email hosting services for biz? I might have a need where I have a bunchof users who are sending emails to "friends"/users. The emails would be sent by the normal email client being used by the user. In order to "track" these emails,

Re: Link-Local Only option not available on NetworkManager

2018-11-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/9/18 7:15 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 2:36 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > In my experience, no, permissive mode does not disable all of SELinux's > blocks, and _especially_ stuff having to to with networking (including > pipes). It's always bothered me.

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-09 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/7/18 8:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. This crucial piece of the release

Re: App similar Winhex for Fedora

2018-11-09 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Thank You Fred, have installed hexdump and study now the man pages. Kind regards Joerg -Ursprüngliche Mitteilung- Von: Fred Smith An: users Verschickt: Fr, 9. Nov. 2018 13:34 Betreff: Re: App similar Winhex for Fedora On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 04:52:28AM -0500, Joerg Lechner via

Re: Link-Local Only option not available on NetworkManager

2018-11-09 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/8/18 5:54 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 1:46 AM Rick Stevens wrote: >> >> If disabling SELinux fixes the connection issue, I'd sure-as-tootin' >> file a bugzilla about it. > I need to remove this phrase from my "it goes without saying" list. :-) > > As

boot resolution - fedora 29

2018-11-09 Thread PropAAS DBA
Hi All; I'm trying to change boot screen and login screen resolution. I added these lines to my /etc/default/grub file: GRUB_GFXMODE='1280x1024x32;1280x1024x24;1280x800x32;1280x800x24;1280x768x32;1280x768x24;800x600x24;auto' GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=keep Then I ran: grub2-mkconfig -o

Re: off topic -- email hosting for biz

2018-11-09 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/09/2018 09:58 AM, bruce wrote: My question is -- Are there 3rd party email hosting providers that can serve as a quick/tmp "storage" for my needs. You can always do what I do. I have a vanity domain hosted at 1and1.com, and I use their servers for all of my email. Simply set up a