Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
Bringing this back to the list. The message I'm replying to was too large for the list, so he sent it directly to me. On 5/30/20 6:49 PM, Robert G (Doc) Savage wrote: The "systemctl -b" output is 4099 lines long, so rummaging around for KILL is a tall order. Allow me to suggest a slightly

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: > That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected at > the same time.  But for some reason, your laptop has a physical wifi disable  > when the ethernet cable is plugged in. FWIW, this article

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 15:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: >>> That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected >>> at the same time.  But for some reason, your laptop has a physical wifi  >>> disable when 

Re: Fedora 30 EOL

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sat, 30 May 2020 16:42:10 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > The policy means nothing when Only an "outsider" would say that. That policy has been refined multiple times since the fedora.us era with its strict QA policies. That policy is also reason why potential "maintainers" shy away from the

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 15:56, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-31 15:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: >> On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: >>> On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected at the same time.  But for some reason, your

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 2020-05-31 15:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: That's not normal.  Normally you can have both ethernet and wifi connected at the same time.  But for some reason, your laptop has a physical wifi disable  when the ethernet cable is plugged in. FWIW, this article

boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello, On a multi-boot PC, how grub is updated? In the past /etc/grub2.cfg was updated. and now? It seems that there are 2 tools: bootctl, and efibootmgr What are the files managed by these tools? How to understand? BootCurrent: 000F Which tool is run after an update of the kernel? Thank.

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 05:31, Ed Greshko wrote: > > I looked back in the thread and I could find no indication that the Fn key > sequence was indicated to exist or > was tried. > > I understand that plugging in the ethernet cable results in a hard block. > However, it seems one should at least

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Kevin Becker
I haven't followed this thread at all but this is a common feature on many laptops. There is often a BIOS setting for it. I didn't find the manual for the P72 in a quick search but the P71 manual turned up this BIOS option: Wireless Auto Disconnection Values: Disabled, Enabled Descriptions:

Looking for a .so

2020-05-31 Thread Geoffrey Leach
I have a build that references '-lz'. This fails, because gcc expects to find libz.so in the library search path. The package that installs zlib, zlib-1.2.11-21.fc32.x86_64 does not create a symlink from libz.so.1.2.11 So, is this a bug in the package, or am I missing something? This package is

Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 29 May 2020, George N. White III wrote: Have you tried the vga= kernel boot parameter? For Xwindows it would be good to get something other than VESA running, either i915 or by adding a graphics card. I'll try that next, though the problem seems to be that a power that be seems to

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
-Original Message- From: George N. White III Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: Community support for Fedora users Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72 Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 09:08:07 -0300 On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 05:31, Ed Greshko wrote: > I looked back in the

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
-Original Message- From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: Fedora Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72 Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 16:30:30 +0800 On 2020-05-31 15:56, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 2020-05-31 15:51, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > On 5/31/20 12:40 AM, Ed

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Patrick Dupre writes: Hello, On a multi-boot PC, how grub is updated? In the past /etc/grub2.cfg was updated. and now? It seems that there are 2 tools: bootctl, and efibootmgr What are the files managed by these tools? How to understand? BootCurrent: 000F Which tool is run after an update

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 05:41, Patrick Dupre wrote: > Hello, > > On a multi-boot PC, how grub is updated? > In the past /etc/grub2.cfg was updated. > > and now? > > It seems that there are 2 tools: bootctl, and efibootmgr > > What are the files managed by these tools? > > How to understand? >

Prevent locking screen

2020-05-31 Thread Beartooth
How do I tell Fedora (currently 32 fully upgraded) never to lock the screen?? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is ___ users mailing list --

Re: Prevent locking screen

2020-05-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 31 May 2020 19:21:30 - (UTC) Beartooth wrote: > How do I tell Fedora (currently 32 fully upgraded) never to > lock the screen?? On my LXDE system, I went to preferences/screensaver. Whatever desktop you are running should have something similar.

Re: Prevent locking screen

2020-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 May 2020 12:49:32 -0700 stan via users wrote: > On my LXDE system, I went to preferences/screensaver. Whatever desktop > you are running should have something similar. In gnome it is the "power" settings in the control panel. ___ users

Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 31 May 2020 20:28:29 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > On 5/28/20 1:37 AM, stan via users wrote: > > Try that, if it still doesn't work, it probably isn't going to be > > trivial to get your setup working because there is probably a reason > > that device 12 was selected as default

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread Jonathan Billings
On May 31, 2020, at 04:41, Patrick Dupre wrote: > On a multi-boot PC, how grub is updated? > In the past /etc/grub2.cfg was updated. Specifically, with the legacy bootloader, it was /boot/grub2/grub.cfg that was updated, and the file in /etc was a symlink. > and now? If you use the legacy

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 6:53 AM, Robert G (Doc) Savage via users wrote: The toggling behavior between Ethernet and WiFi is not new. It has been standard on the P72 since I purchased it and installed F29 in November 2018. I seem to recall the same behavior in the ThinkPad W700 laptop that the P72 replaced.

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank Jonathan for all these clarifications. I have just one concern This is what is in /boot/efi/EFI/fedora/grub.cfg menuentry 'Fedora 30 (Thirty) (on /dev/sdc3)' --class fedora --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thanks,   You are correct. I also have Boot000F* Fedora from this distribution (BootCurrent: 000F)   and BootCurrent: Timeout: 1 seconds BootOrder: ,0002,0001,0003,0004,0005 Boot* fedora   From another one.   I wanted to understand what this means. There is logic in this

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-31 05:25, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > The "hard" block should only come from hardware.  If it was NetworkManager,  > it would be the "soft" block that gets set. > FWIW, that doesn't appear to be as clear cut as I expected.  I was able to resurrect a lap top running F32/KDE. It only has one

Re: Looking for a .so

2020-05-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:29:54 +0200 Andras Simon wrote: > I think that you need to install zlib-devel. Yep, all the symlinks and such you need to build things are always in the corresponding xxx-devel packages that go with the original xxx package (almost always, anyway).

Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-31 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On 5/27/20 11:33 PM, Ben Cotton wrote: I see "PulseAudio" as an option in the GUI, so I don't really have a good answer. Can you please share a screenshot of where you are seeing PulseAudio ? I am seeing ALSA over here (): https://imgur.com/a/LN7H50m Are you getting PulseAudio in the same

Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-31 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
On 5/28/20 1:37 AM, stan via users wrote: If you go to edit->preferences it comes up in the devices tab. About a third of the way down the page is playback device and recording device. If you click on the selection arrow, you should find default and pulse, and all your other devices. There

Re: Looking for a .so

2020-05-31 Thread Geoffrey Leach
On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:29:54 +0200 Andras Simon wrote: > 2020-05-31 16:08 UTC+02:00, Geoffrey Leach : > > I have a build that references '-lz'. This fails, because gcc > > expects to find libz.so in the library search path. The package > > that installs zlib, zlib-1.2.11-21.fc32.x86_64 does not

Re: Looking for a .so

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 31 May 2020 09:02:51 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > On Sun, 31 May 2020 16:29:54 +0200 > Andras Simon wrote: > > > 2020-05-31 16:08 UTC+02:00, Geoffrey Leach: > > > I have a build that references '-lz'. This fails, because gcc > > > expects to find libz.so in the library search path.

Re: Looking for a .so

2020-05-31 Thread Andras Simon
2020-05-31 16:08 UTC+02:00, Geoffrey Leach : > I have a build that references '-lz'. This fails, because gcc expects > to find libz.so in the library search path. The package that installs > zlib, zlib-1.2.11-21.fc32.x86_64 does not create a symlink from > libz.so.1.2.11 I think that you need to

Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-31 Thread George Avrunin
[Sreyan Chakravarty sent the reply directly to me, and apparently not to the list, but I'm moving the discussion back to the list.] On Sun, 31 May 2020 20:24:12 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote: > On 5/27/20 11:38 PM, George Avrunin wrote: > > I haven't used audacity in a long time, but on my

Re: [SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-31 Thread Łukasz Posadowski
Tue, 26 May 2020 18:24:18 +0530 Sreyan Chakravarty : > > On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote: > > Pretty sure it is an RPM unless you have things configured > > strangely. It is good to use the rpm from RPMFusion, because then > > you get the patented audio and video codecs, so audacity

Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Bob Goodwin
I found this script in a list on my computer, ran it and found I had no way to stop it. What shuts it off? while [ 1 <> 0 ] do aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav done Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD FEDORA-32/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 5:01 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I found this script in a list on my computer, ran it and found I had no way to stop it. What shuts it off? while [ 1 <> 0 ] do aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav done It's an infinite loop. Repeatedly pressing CTRL-C should stop it or else

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread linux guy
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/rawhide/system-administrators-guide/kernel-module-driver-configuration/Working_with_the_GRUB_2_Boot_Loader/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread linux guy
This has become so complicated. So if I want to change some of the kernel boot parameters in the grub command line, on F32, how do I do it ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Bob Goodwin
On 2020-05-31 20:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/31/20 5:01 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I found this script in a list on my computer, ran it and found I had no way to stop it. What shuts it off? while [ 1 <> 0 ] do aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav done It's an infinite loop.  Repeatedly

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 12:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > It has nothing to do with NetworkManager. If both interfaces are > active at the same time, NetworkManager will set the ethernet port as > the default. You can even have both interfaces with the same address > and everything still works. I

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 21:22 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: > Well Control C is one of the first things I try, perhaps I should > have kept trying longer? When I found no remedy in my notes I was > beaten and had to reboot. Sometimes doing something like killall aplay A few times will put an end to

Re: f31 :: sd card not accesible

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 12:24 +0300, Adrian Sevcenco wrote: > so, anyone any idea what is going on? seriosly, linux cannot do what > windows can??? On my old laptop there was a dual MMC/SD card reader. The MMC side of things couldn't be used on Linux, but the SD could. -- uname -rsvp Linux

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 6:56 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 12:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: It has nothing to do with NetworkManager. If both interfaces are active at the same time, NetworkManager will set the ethernet port as the default. You can even have both interfaces with the same

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 7:03 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 21:22 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: Well Control C is one of the first things I try, perhaps I should have kept trying longer? When I found no remedy in my notes I was beaten and had to reboot. Sometimes doing something like

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 6:22 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 2020-05-31 20:38, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 5/31/20 5:01 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I found this script in a list on my computer, ran it and found I had no way to stop it. What shuts it off? while [ 1 <> 0 ] do aplay /usr/share/sounds/purple/login.wav done

Re: boot/grub

2020-05-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 5/31/20 1:45 PM, Patrick Dupre wrote: Thanks, You are correct. I also have Boot000F* Fedora from this distribution (BootCurrent: 000F) and BootCurrent: Timeout: 1 seconds BootOrder: ,0002,0001,0003,0004,0005 Boot* fedora From another one. I wanted to understand what this means.

Re: Aplay problem -

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 19:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > No, that would only kill the aplay and then the shell script would > immediately start it again. Of course, I was forgetting it was in the middle of a script. I was thinking of a command going nuts. Surely just closing the terminal window

running browser as user different than root

2020-05-31 Thread bruce
Hi. Trying to understand/figure out some things. I've logged in as root I can start a browser -- FF, or chromium, no issue. (I know.. I shouldn't. but I can. However, if I fire up a term as another user, and then from the cmdline, fire up chromium, I get an err msg No protocol specified

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I tried to do that once, with my systems. But my DHCP server won't >> let me assign the same IP to two different MACs. Samuel Sieb: > I use the standard dhcp server included with Fedora. You can create > two entries with different identifiers and different macs but with > the same IP

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Tim via users
Tim: >> I tried to do that once, with my systems. But my DHCP server won't >> let me assign the same IP to two different MACs. Robert G (Doc) Savage: > Use static IP addressing for both interfaces. Your DHCP server won't > care. I had the laptop always on DHCP so it can work anywhere without me

Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-31 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 29 May 2020, George N. White III wrote: Have you tried the vga= kernel boot parameter? For Xwindows it would be good to get something other than VESA running, either i915 or by adding a graphics card. I have now. No go. I had a look at the dmesg log on an old system with Nvidia

Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72

2020-05-31 Thread Robert G (Doc) Savage via users
-Original Message- From: Tim via users Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Tim Subject: Re: Restart F32 WiFi on ThinkPad P72 Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2020 11:26:29 +0930 On Sun, 2020-05-31 at 12:17 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > It has nothing to do

Re: running browser as user different than root

2020-05-31 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi, bruce wrote: > Trying to understand/figure out some things. > > I've logged in as root There's really no point in looking for a way to improve things once you've done this. You're way outside of reasonable, secure, and supportable practices in doing that. If you really think you have a

Noticed in change in action after upgrade from 30 to 31.

2020-05-31 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Just upgraded a machine and noticed that with version 30, when I had a process running in a terminal window, when it completed it would report that the command finished, and would provide the scripts name. After the upgrade, the messages now just show bash completed rather than the specific

[389-users] Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread William Brown
Hey there, We need to see the pstacks from all threads to really determine the cause here. Can you send us a complete read out? gdb -p "pid" thread apply all bt It'd be great if you can install debug info too to help. Thanks, > On 31 May 2020, at 05:09, Crocker, Deborah wrote: > >

[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread Crocker, Deborah
We had to roll it back. There is one host running with it but the load is so light we never saw a problem. We think it was a known bug, maybe this: https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/issue/50329 Do you want any info off the running host? We'll now probably move into the 1.4.x trees. Any advice on

[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread William Brown
> On 1 Jun 2020, at 10:54, Crocker, Deborah wrote: > > We had to roll it back. There is one host running with it but the load is so > light we never saw a problem. We think it was a known bug, maybe this: > > https://pagure.io/389-ds-base/issue/50329 That issue is fixed in 1.3.9, you are

[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread Crocker, Deborah
Thanks, I'll get you the info shortly Deborah Crocker, PhD Systems Engineer III Office of Information Technology The University of Alabama Box 870346 Tuscaloosa, AL 36587 Office 205-348-3758 | Fax 205-348-9393 deborah.croc...@ua.edu -Original Message- From: William Brown Sent:

[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread Crocker, Deborah
Is this sufficient? Again, this server has a light load and we don't think we saw the problem, although I do note that the CPU usage seems pretty high for such a light load. Thread 26 (Thread 0x7f0600d32700 (LWP 11330)): #0 0x7f06420a09a3 in select () at

[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread William Brown
> On 1 Jun 2020, at 11:43, Crocker, Deborah wrote: > > Is this sufficient? Again, this server has a light load and we don't think > we saw the problem, although I do note that the CPU usage seems pretty high > for such a light load. All threads are idle except thread 1 that is checking if

[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Re: Re: new server setup hanging

2020-05-31 Thread Crocker, Deborah
This runs about 1/4 the load of the ones that had an issue. I don't know if I can run this up to see it. From: William Brown Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:27:58 PM To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org <389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org> Subject: [EXTERNAL]