Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-10 Thread John Phillips
Luis Vitorio Cargnini wrote: Ok, after all the considerations, I'll try Boost, today, make some experiments and see if I can use it or if I'll avoid it yet. But as said by Raimond I think, the problem is been dependent of a rich-incredible-amazing-toolset but still implementing only

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread Luis Vitorio Cargnini
Ok, after all the considerations, I'll try Boost, today, make some experiments and see if I can use it or if I'll avoid it yet. But as said by Raimond I think, the problem is been dependent of a rich-incredible-amazing-toolset but still implementing only MPI-1, and do not implement

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread Jeff Squyres
I think you face a common trade-off: - use a well-established, debugged, abstraction-rich library - write all of that stuff yourself FWIW, I think the first one is a no-brainer. There's a reason they wrote Boost.MPI: it's complex, difficult stuff, and is perfect as middleware for others to

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread Matthieu Brucher
> IF boost is attached to MPI 3 (or whatever), AND it becomes part of the > mainstream MPI implementations, THEN you can have the discussion again. Hi, At the moment, I think that Boost.MPI only supports MPI1.1, and even then, some additional work may be done, at least regarding the complex

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread Raymond Wan
Hi Luis, Luis Vitorio Cargnini wrote: Your suggestion is a great and interesting idea. I only have the fear to get used to the Boost and could not get rid of Boost anymore, because one thing is sure the abstraction added by Boost is impressive, it turn I should add that I fully

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread John Phillips
Terry Frankcombe wrote: I understand Luis' position completely. He wants an MPI program, not a program that's written in some other environment, no matter how attractive that may be. It's like the difference between writing a numerical program in standard-conforming Fortran and writing it in

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread Terry Frankcombe
On Mon, 2009-07-06 at 23:09 -0400, John Phillips wrote: > Luis Vitorio Cargnini wrote: > > > > Your suggestion is a great and interesting idea. I only have the fear to > > get used to the Boost and could not get rid of Boost anymore, because > > one thing is sure the abstraction added by Boost

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-07 Thread John Phillips
Luis Vitorio Cargnini wrote: Your suggestion is a great and interesting idea. I only have the fear to get used to the Boost and could not get rid of Boost anymore, because one thing is sure the abstraction added by Boost is impressive, it turn the things much less painful like MPI to be

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-06 Thread Luis Vitorio Cargnini
Hi Raymond, thanks for your answer Le 09-07-06 à 21:16, Raymond Wan a écrit : I've used Boost MPI before and it really isn't that bad and shouldn't be seen as "just another library". Many parts of Boost are on their way to being part of the standard and are discussed and debated on. And

Re: [OMPI users] MPI and C++ (Boost)

2009-07-06 Thread Raymond Wan
Hi Luis, Luis Vitorio Cargnini wrote: Thanks, but I really do not want to use Boost. Is easier ? certainly is, but I want to make it using only MPI itself and not been dependent of a Library, or templates like the majority of boost a huge set of templates and wrappers for different