[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-19 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/19 2:41 PM Tommy27 wrote: gene, all you say is just plonk... plonk... plonk... :confused: For your edification. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(usenet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_%28usenet%29 Plonk is a Usenet jargon term for adding a particular poster

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-19 Thread Gene Young
Larry Gusaas wrote: On 2009/09/19 2:41 PM Tommy27 wrote: gene, all you say is just plonk... plonk... plonk... :confused: For your edification. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_(usenet) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plonk_%28usenet%29 Plonk is a Usenet jargon term for adding

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-18 Thread Pierre
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Tommy27; your constant proselytizing on what is supposed to be a support mail list is extremely offensive to me. Just shut up, stop polluting the list, and let it get back to what it is supposed to be about. I agree entirely, Keith. This thread belongs in

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-18 Thread John Boyle
Pierre wrote: Keith N. McKenna wrote: Tommy27; your constant proselytizing on what is supposed to be a support mail list is extremely offensive to me. Just shut up, stop polluting the list, and let it get back to what it is supposed to be about. I agree entirely, Keith. This thread

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-17 Thread Gianluca Turconi
Hello Paul, In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 21:34:51, Paul paul.m...@gmail.com ha scritto: However, as in the past, let me re-iterate. Moderators of the OOo lists do not have the ability to ban or censor posters. I don't know how the mailing list platform evolved in last years, but:

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 15 settembre 2009 alle ore 19:54:56, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 2009/09/15 6:33 AM Tommy27 wrote: i'm not the first author of the petition so i cannot edit it... Then get you pet dingo to do it. He created it. Unless it is changed you are both scam

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Joe(theWordy)Philbrook
It would appear that on Sep 15, The Beaver did say: Nobody with a brain is actually going to stop using OOo just because it has a ribbon. An intuitive interface is a plus and if the ribbon can be made to work instead of just hide everything like MS does, then it is a good thing. Quit

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 09:22:24, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook jtw...@ttlc.net ha scritto: Personally I don't care what they do to the out of the box default UI. Just as long as they keep the changes a user configurable choice. Amen! :-) Customization is the magic word, I suppose.

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/16 2:14 AM Gianluca Turconi wrote: In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 10:05:42, Presta Rogerator prestarogera...@yahoo.com ha scritto: Like everyone else here, I'm tired of your stupidity. You have been told over and over and over how to make your voice heard to the Rennaisance

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Gianluca Turconi
In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 11:02:24, Larry Gusaas larry.gus...@gmail.com ha scritto: On 2009/09/16 2:14 AM Gianluca Turconi wrote: In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 10:05:42, Presta Rogerator prestarogera...@yahoo.com ha scritto: Like everyone else here, I'm tired of your

[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Keith Bates
I have just had enough of this thread. I'm quitting the list until Tommy and his side-kicks get over themselves. This list is not about over-promoting petitions and having flame wars about a proposal. I'll come back maybe in a month Keith On Wed, 2009-09-16 at 11:09 +0200, Gianluca Turconi

[users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Tommy27
@Presta Larry your complete loss of education brings you to offend people who don't have your same opinions... i'll not come down yo your (very low) level... i'm not going to insult you... you are jusy showing people the person you are with that incivil behaviour... @Keith if you don't like

Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Manfred J. Krause
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 13:25, Tommy27 ba...@quipo.it wrote: @Presta Larry [... bushwa ...] @Keith [... bollocks ...] @everybody [... moonshine ...] Don't bulldoze the mailing list! Manfred -- Dogs As Smart As 2-Year-Olds

Re: [users] Re: [openoffice] Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 September 2009, Keith Bates wrote: I have just had enough of this thread. I'm quitting the list until Tommy and his side-kicks get over themselves. This list is not about over-promoting petitions and having flame wars about a proposal. I'll come back maybe in a month Keith

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Paul
: On 2009/09/16 2:14 AM Gianluca Turconi wrote: In data 16 settembre 2009 alle ore 10:05:42, Presta Rogerator prestarogera...@yahoo.com ha scritto: Like everyone else here, I'm tired of your stupidity. You have been told over and over and over how to make your voice heard to the

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Tommy27 wrote: i did not offend anybody. other people offended me... those people are those who should learn how to stay in a mailing list. the petition is growing minute after minute 373 right now in less than 4 weeks. the number is veryhigh... blog posts on GullFoss never received so

[Fwd: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance]

2009-09-16 Thread JOE Conner
Original Message SNIP Tommy27; Let me be perfectly clear. You DO offend people. I am a person and your constant proselytizing on what is supposed to be a support mail list is extremely offensive to me. Just shut up, stop polluting the list, and let it get back to what

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-16 Thread NoOp
On 09/16/2009 10:43 AM, David B Teague wrote: Please drop this entire thread. It is not going anywhere, and is producing nothing but some annoyance. --David Teague One really nice thing about using nntp (gmane.org) is the ability to just kill a thread poof it's gone :-) With that

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/15 6:33 AM Tommy27 wrote: i'm not the first author of the petition so i cannot edit it... Then get you pet dingo to do it. He created it. Unless it is changed you are both scam artists. By promoting this petition you are promoting the scam artists in the links on the

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-15 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/15 2:33 PM Tommy27 wrote: no one of the 347 signers (you see, any time i post here the number is always higher...) has complained about scam sites because no one of them is so dumb to be fooled by those advertosing. How do you know none of them went to the scam sites? You don't.

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-14 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/14 11:09 PM Tommy27 wrote: the reasons for the birth of the petition have been clip / The real reason for the creation of the petition is to get people to visit a hosting service that puts links in its petitions to scam website. The creators of the petition have refused to get

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/10 12:02 AM Tommy27 wrote: Larry Gusaas-4 wrote: So you are both promoting the advertised Open Office scam on the petition website. Do the two of you own this fake Official OO.o website and try to collect money from people so they can download OO.o? no. we have no

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/10 9:52 AM Tommy27 wrote: I'm not the starter of the petition so i cannot edit it and add that warning. Then tell your compatriot the wild dog to do it. Quack Quack -- Larry I. Gusaas Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan Canada Website: http://larry-gusaas.com An artist is never ahead of

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-10 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/10 3:13 PM Tommy27 wrote: your quacks will not stop the petition, Larry. :-p our team will win!!! =) Since neither you or your mad dog compatriot will do anything about the scam links on the website you put yourself in the same category as the scammers. If your are serious

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-09 Thread Andreas Saeger
Larry Gusaas wrote: Better still. Ignore the petition. People who put such links on their sites are not doing you any favours. Better still, provide constructive criticism to the project to improve it. Explain to them what you don't like and why along with what you do like. Provide

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-09 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/09/09 4:38 PM Tommy27 wrote: Tommy, aka Dingo-Dog from Italy is the same person who lauched the petition. He tries to raise attention for the advertised Open Office scam. wrong supposition. we are 2 different users. dingo-dog started the petition, while i'm just promoting in

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-03 Thread Mathias Bauer
Harold Fuchs wrote: If you really want to enhance the UI, implement the facility where ***every*** possible option is available from the keyboard so that real typists don't have to keep switching between it and the mouse. As far as I'm concerned, you preach to a converted. I'm a heavy

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-03 Thread Mathias Bauer
Web Kracked wrote: All this stuff about going to some web site other than OOo's and fill out forms we do not have control over. This is like washing our dirty laundry in a mud puddle. If we, as users, do not like something that the developers are doing, there are ways to let them know on one

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-02 Thread Harold Fuchs
Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de wrote in message news:4a9e23d4.30...@gmx.de... Harold Fuchs wrote: We can only comment on what we are shown. What I saw was terrible and I said so. If what was shown does not represent the intentions then show us what is intended. Philosophical arguments

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-02 Thread Uwe Fischer
Harold Fuchs wrote: Do you use professional usability labs? These are organisations that get people in off the street to try to use a piece of software. Typically the people don't have any training. They are observed interviewed to find what comes easily and what doesn't. The results are

Re: [users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-09-02 Thread Web Kracked
Harold Fuchs wrote: Mathias Bauer nospamfor...@gmx.de wrote in message news:4a9e23d4.30...@gmx.de... Harold Fuchs wrote: We can only comment on what we are shown. What I saw was terrible and I said so. If what was shown does not represent the intentions then show us what is intended.

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-08-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/08/31 1:19 PM David B Teague wrote: If the author of the petition made it easier to sign the petition, I'd be happy to sign, but I was steered to at least 3 different web sites then the web site AFTER I had supposedly voted wants me to register. I hate the idea of a ribbon

[users] Re: Petition against OOo Renaissance

2009-08-31 Thread Larry Gusaas
On 2009/08/31 1:49 PM Tommy27 wrote: @ Larry Gusaas-4 I'm sorry but i don't know who is responsible for those links I'm not the original author of the petition but I'm just supporting it by spreading the news... The author of the petition is responsible for the links in his/her webpage.