Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Francis Lachapelle]

Hello Albert

> On Nov 5, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Albert Shih  wrote:
> 
> Le 14/10/2015 à 17:42:17-0400, Ludovic Marcotte a écrit
>> Hello,
>> 
>> Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.
>> 
>> Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2. Among the
>> changes, there are:
>> 
>>  • compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
>>  • completed the ACL administration module
>>  • now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
>>  • multi-day view in the Calendar module
>>  • respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in Calendar module
>>  • many general improvements to the Calendar module
>>  • upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
>>  • many other bug fixes and improvements
>> 
>> Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is now on:
>> 
>>  • DnD support
>>  • speed improvements
>>  • review of theme and toolbars
>> 
>> If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email threading.
>> 
>> The demo version of SOGo v3 is available from  http://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo
>> 
>> You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You can also
>> get SOGo v3 as sources or packages from http://www.sogo.nu/downloads/
>> backend_v3.html.
>> 
> 
> Some feedbacks
> 
> Generaly :
> 
>  1/ As already say, too much waste space, with a classic laptop it's hard
>  to use

This aspect has been improved in beta 2 and we'll figure out other possible 
improvements, especially with the toolbars.

>  2/ IMHO lack of contrast.

Totally agree. I'm not satisfied with the current theme.

>  3/ The fact the text is in the same color as the icon make no easy to
>  find which can be click.

Can you give a precise example?

>  4/ The icon to allow to change the application (agendas, mail, address book) 
> is hard to find.

I agree. They should be more accessible.

>  5/ Need a message small popup when the pointer is on those icons, because
>  some are hard to understand.

There're tooltips on most icon buttons. They'll probably become annoying once 
you get familiar with the icons.

> Agendas :
> 
>  1/ The « add » icon (in agendas) is not very easy to find.
> 
>  2/ Because this add icon is use on both « Event » and « Task » make it
>  very confusing.

We'll try to replace the "+" by an icon representing an event or a task 
depending on the active tab.

>  3/ It's not easy to know if it's Events tab or Task tab who is in focus
>  (same color/background)

My suggestion above should help.

>  4/ Cannot add/change/move a event by drag (BIG problem)

I just committed an initial implementation. It was planned and mentioned in the 
beta 3 announce.

>  5/ it's not easy to find the « three vertical dots » is the configuration
>  button for each calendar, more seam something who cannot be display
>  because.

I don't understand your comment.

> And when you put a long name for a calendar, the « three dots
>  » disappear.

It should not be the case. I'll double-check.

> Mail:
> 
>  Almost same problems in agendas +
> 
>  6/ Don't know what those three dots does

The three dots is a button to display a menu with options.

>  7/ It's very unclear what the « add tag » does.

It allows to add tags (labels) to a message. I agree that the UI/UX needs more 
reflexion.


Thanks,

Francis

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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Albert Shih]

 Le 14/10/2015 à 17:42:17-0400, Ludovic Marcotte a écrit
> Hello,
>
> Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.
>
> Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2. Among the
> changes, there are:
>
>   • compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
>   • completed the ACL administration module
>   • now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
>   • multi-day view in the Calendar module
>   • respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in Calendar module
>   • many general improvements to the Calendar module
>   • upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
>   • many other bug fixes and improvements
>
> Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is now on:
>
>   • DnD support
>   • speed improvements
>   • review of theme and toolbars
>
> If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email threading.
>
> The demo version of SOGo v3 is available from  http://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo
>
> You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You can also
> get SOGo v3 as sources or packages from http://www.sogo.nu/downloads/
> backend_v3.html.
>

Some feedbacks

Generaly :

  1/ As already say, too much waste space, with a classic laptop it's hard
  to use

  2/ IMHO lack of contrast.

  3/ The fact the text is in the same color as the icon make no easy to
  find which can be click.
.
  4/ The icon to allow to change the application (agendas, mail, address book) 
is hard to find.

  5/ Need a message small popup when the pointer is on those icons, because
  some are hard to understand.


Agendas :

  1/ The « add » icon (in agendas) is not very easy to find.

  2/ Because this add icon is use on both « Event » and « Task » make it
  very confusing.

  3/ It's not easy to know if it's Events tab or Task tab who is in focus
  (same color/background)

  4/ Cannot add/change/move a event by drag (BIG problem)

  5/ it's not easy to find the « three vertical dots » is the configuration
  button for each calendar, more seam something who cannot be display
  because. And when you put a long name for a calendar, the « three dots
  » disappear.

Mail:

  Almost same problems in agendas +

  6/ Don't know what those three dots does

  7/ It's very unclear what the « add tag » does.


Hope that's help.

Regards



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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Christian Naumer]

I have question regarding v3. What are the plans in using the v2 and v3 
interfaces in parallel? I like the new interface a lot on tablets and 
smartphones but on a large screen it does waste some space.

Then as a small bug report in v3 some buttons (vertical dots on calendars and 
mail folders) do not work with Firefox. They do work with chrome.

Regards



Am 17. Oktober 2015 14:56:48 MESZ, schrieb Heiner Markert :
>+1
>
>In landscape format with a small browser window half of the screen 
>height is used by the top bar - no way to remove it, no space left for 
>the important information
>
>Regards
>Heiner
>
>
>Am 15.10.2015 um 08:55 schrieb mourik jan heupink:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Also in beta3 no way to resize the different windows, and (way) too 
>> much unused space everywhere, for our taste.
>>
>> Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.
>>
>> MJ
>>
>> On 10/14/2015 11:42 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.
>>>
>>> Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2.
>>> Among the changes, there are:
>>>
>>>   * compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
>>>   * completed the ACL administration module
>>>   * now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
>>>   * multi-day view in the Calendar module
>>>   * respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in
>Calendar
>>> module
>>>   * many general improvements to the Calendar module
>>>   * upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
>>>   * many other bug fixes and improvements
>>>
>>> Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is 
>>> now on:
>>>
>>>   * DnD support
>>>   * speed improvements
>>>   * review of theme and toolbars
>>>
>>> If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email
>threading.
>>>
>>> The demo version of SOGo v3 is available
>>> fromhttp://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo
>>>
>>> You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You
>can
>>> also get SOGo v3 as sources or packages
>>> fromhttp://www.sogo.nu/downloads/backend_v3.html.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Ludovic Marcotte
>>> lmarco...@inverse.ca   ::  +1.514.755.3630  ::http://inverse.ca
>>> Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence
>
>>> (http://packetfence.org)
>>>

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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Francis Lachapelle]

Hello Christian

> On Oct 25, 2015, at 3:25 AM, Christian Naumer  wrote:
> 
> I have question regarding v3. What are the plans in using the v2 and v3 
> interfaces in parallel? I like the new interface a lot on tablets and 
> smartphones but on a large screen it does waste some space.
> 
> Then as a small bug report in v3 some buttons (vertical dots on calendars and 
> mail folders) do not work with Firefox. They do work with chrome.

As Patrick Rauter also noticed, there're some issues with clicking on 
"secondary" buttons in lists while using Firefox. Hopefully the Angular 
Material team will address those issues (developers seem to limit their tests 
to Chrome most of the time), otherwise will found alternatives to have the 
correct behaviour on all evergreen browsers.

> Am 17. Oktober 2015 14:56:48 MESZ, schrieb Heiner Markert :
>> +1
>> 
>> In landscape format with a small browser window half of the screen 
>> height is used by the top bar - no way to remove it, no space left for 
>> the important information
>> 
>> Regards
>> Heiner
>> 
>> 
>> Am 15.10.2015 um 08:55 schrieb mourik jan heupink:
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Also in beta3 no way to resize the different windows, and (way) too 
>>> much unused space everywhere, for our taste.
>>> 
>>> Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.
>>> 
>>> MJ
>>> 
>>> On 10/14/2015 11:42 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.
 
 Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2.
 Among the changes, there are:
 
  * compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
  * completed the ACL administration module
  * now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
  * multi-day view in the Calendar module
  * respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in
>> Calendar
module
  * many general improvements to the Calendar module
  * upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
  * many other bug fixes and improvements
 
 Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is 
 now on:
 
  * DnD support
  * speed improvements
  * review of theme and toolbars
 
 If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email
>> threading.
 
 The demo version of SOGo v3 is available
 fromhttp://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo
 
 You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You
>> can
 also get SOGo v3 as sources or packages
 fromhttp://www.sogo.nu/downloads/backend_v3.html.
 
 Thanks!
 
 -- 
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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Chris Coleman]

On 10/25/2015 3:25 AM, Christian Naumer wrote:

I have question regarding v3. What are the plans in using the v2 and v3 
interfaces in parallel? I like the new interface a lot on tablets and 
smartphones but on a large screen it does waste some space.

Then as a small bug report in v3 some buttons (vertical dots on calendars and 
mail folders) do not work with Firefox. They do work with chrome.

Regards

If you're sure a reproducible bug, you might want to register on the 
official bug tracker and post the steps to recreate it:

http://www.sogo.nu/bugs/view_all_bug_page.php

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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Patrick Rauter]

Hello,

The responsive design looks great for mobile devices.

I've noticed that with Safari (9.0) i'm able to expand the folder view, 
while with Firefox (41.0.2) it' seems to be imposible to open the 
inbox-folder.


(tested under 0SX 10.9.5 and Debian 8.2 / KDE 4.14.2)

with kind regards

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Am 15.10.2015 um 21:15 schrieb Milos Wimmer:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015, mourik jan heupink wrote:

  Hi,


... and (way) too much unused space everywhere, for our taste.

Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.


I agree.
But to be honest - for desktop I would prefer v2, for tablet and phone
looks v3 promising.

BTW and for inspiration - did you see design of Roundcube Next?
  http://roundcu.be/next
I like it.

Regards,
Milos




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RE: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet]

Yes reply all is much used by everyone here also rather that reply to.

Regards
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+919849111010

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Subject: Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

> Peter Beck Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:19:51 -0700
> 
> there is already an "reply to all" included; just click the last icon

> with the three dots and choose "reply all". But maybe it would be 
> easier

> for casual users if that icon would be just beside the "reply to sender"

> button as this is used quite often...

Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. :)

I know there's a 'Reply to All' button hidden in the last icon, i just want
to move it out of the icon and place it beside the 'Reply to Sender Only'.
It's used more frequently (for me) than the 'Reply to Sender Only'.

I really wish SOGo developers could make this small change, it will be more
productive (with less clicks).


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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Zhang Huangbin]

> Peter Beck Wed, 14 Oct 2015 17:19:51 -0700
> 
> there is already an "reply to all" included; just click the last icon

> with the three dots and choose "reply all". But maybe it would be easier

> for casual users if that icon would be just beside the "reply to sender"

> button as this is used quite often...

Hi Peter, Thanks for the reply. :)

I know there's a 'Reply to All' button hidden in the last icon, i just want to 
move it out of the icon and place it beside the 'Reply to Sender Only'. It's 
used more frequently (for me) than the 'Reply to Sender Only'.

I really wish SOGo developers could make this small change, it will be more 
productive (with less clicks).


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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Heiner Markert]

+1

In landscape format with a small browser window half of the screen 
height is used by the top bar - no way to remove it, no space left for 
the important information


Regards
Heiner


Am 15.10.2015 um 08:55 schrieb mourik jan heupink:

Hi,

Also in beta3 no way to resize the different windows, and (way) too 
much unused space everywhere, for our taste.


Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.

MJ

On 10/14/2015 11:42 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:

Hello,

Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.

Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2.
Among the changes, there are:

  * compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
  * completed the ACL administration module
  * now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
  * multi-day view in the Calendar module
  * respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in Calendar
module
  * many general improvements to the Calendar module
  * upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
  * many other bug fixes and improvements

Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is 
now on:


  * DnD support
  * speed improvements
  * review of theme and toolbars

If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email threading.

The demo version of SOGo v3 is available
fromhttp://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo

You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You can
also get SOGo v3 as sources or packages
fromhttp://www.sogo.nu/downloads/backend_v3.html.

Thanks!

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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[VILLEMUR Jacques]

Hello
About labels ( etiquette ) : they do not appear in the list of messages (like 
the flag), are seen in the message body.
In the search functions labels and unread still do not appear! A date for these 
sorting functions ?
Thank you for the work
Regards
Jacques


Le Mercredi 14 Octobre 2015 23:42 CEST, Ludovic Marcotte  
a écrit:
  
Hello,
Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.
Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2. Among the 
changes, there are:
 * compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks * completed the ACL 
administration module * now able to expand/collapse mailboxes * multi-day view 
in the Calendar module * respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors 
in Calendar module * many general improvements to the Calendar module * 
upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3 * many other bug fixes 
and improvements
Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is now on:
 * DnD support * speed improvements * review of theme and toolbars
If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email threading.
The demo version of SOGo v3 is available from http://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo
You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You can also 
get SOGo v3 as sources or packages from 
http://www.sogo.nu/downloads/backend_v3.html.
Thanks!--
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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Anna Christina Naß]

Am 15.10.2015 um 08:55 schrieb mourik jan heupink:

Hi,


Also in beta3 no way to resize the different windows, and (way) too much
unused space everywhere, for our taste.

Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.


+1

I hope that a classic theme is still in the works, as many people wished 
some time ago.


Regards,
Anna Christina Naß



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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[mourik jan heupink]

Hi,

Also in beta3 no way to resize the different windows, and (way) too much 
unused space everywhere, for our taste.


Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.

MJ

On 10/14/2015 11:42 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:

Hello,

Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.

Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2.
Among the changes, there are:

  * compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
  * completed the ACL administration module
  * now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
  * multi-day view in the Calendar module
  * respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in Calendar
module
  * many general improvements to the Calendar module
  * upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
  * many other bug fixes and improvements

Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is now on:

  * DnD support
  * speed improvements
  * review of theme and toolbars

If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email threading.

The demo version of SOGo v3 is available
fromhttp://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo

You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You can
also get SOGo v3 as sources or packages
fromhttp://www.sogo.nu/downloads/backend_v3.html.

Thanks!

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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Dries Decock]

Hi,

first of all, I must say I like the new style. Good work!

I think I found an issue with changing an event. If I want to edit an
event, it tells me date and time are invalid.

E.g. date is March 3, 5877521 and time is NA

Thanks,
Dries

On 10/14/2015 11:42 PM, Ludovic Marcotte wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.
>
> Many things have been improved in the past three weeks over beta 2.
> Among the changes, there are:
>
>   * compacted listing of contacts, emails, events and tasks
>   * completed the ACL administration module
>   * now able to expand/collapse mailboxes
>   * multi-day view in the Calendar module
>   * respect contrast ratio of foreground/background colors in Calendar
> module
>   * many general improvements to the Calendar module
>   * upgraded to Angular 1.4.7 and Angular Material 0.11.3
>   * many other bug fixes and improvements
>
> Our next release should be the first final one of v3. Our focus is now on:
>
>   * DnD support
>   * speed improvements
>   * review of theme and toolbars
>
> If time permits, we will also add calendar printing and email threading.
>
> The demo version of SOGo v3 is available from http://demo.sogo.nu/SOGo
>
> You can use the username/password "sogo1", "sogo2" and "sogo3". You
> can also get SOGo v3 as sources or packages
> from http://www.sogo.nu/downloads/backend_v3.html.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- 
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> lmarco...@inverse.ca  ::  +1.514.755.3630  ::  http://inverse.ca
> Inverse inc. :: Leaders behind SOGo (http://sogo.nu) and PacketFence 
> (http://packetfence.org)

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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Milos Wimmer]

On Thu, 15 Oct 2015, mourik jan heupink wrote:

 Hi,


... and (way) too much unused space everywhere, for our taste.

Sorry to say so, but we like the 'current' theme al lot better.


I agree.
But to be honest - for desktop I would prefer v2, for tablet and phone
looks v3 promising.

BTW and for inspiration - did you see design of Roundcube Next?
 http://roundcu.be/next
I like it.

Regards,
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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Peter Beck]

On 10/15/2015 01:44 AM, Zhang Huangbin wrote:
> By the way, could you please add a 'Reply to all' button beside the 'Reply to 
> Sender Only' when viewing a message?

Hi Zhang,

there is already an "reply to all" included; just click the last icon
with the three dots and choose "reply all". But maybe it would be easier
for casual users if that icon would be just beside the "reply to sender"
button as this is used quite often...

Regards
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Re: [SOGo] ANN: SOGo v3.0 beta 3

[Zhang Huangbin]

> On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:42 AM, Ludovic Marcotte  wrote:
> 
> Inverse is happy to announce the availability of SOGo v3.0 beta 3.

Thank you for the great work.

By the way, could you please add a 'Reply to all' button beside the 'Reply to 
Sender Only' when viewing a message?


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