Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-13 Thread Wolfgang Sourdeau
Le 12-07-10 05:23, Wolfgang Hennerbichler a écrit : IMHO the only good imap client is either mutt or apple mail. apple mail lacks extensions, other than that this is THE desktop-client. if only it ran on linux... :) Well. You could try GNUMail, which looks a lot like what Apple Mail

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-13 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Wolfgang Sourdeau users@sogo.nu: Le 12-07-10 05:23, Wolfgang Hennerbichler a écrit : IMHO the only good imap client is either mutt or apple mail. apple mail lacks extensions, other than that this is THE desktop-client. if only it ran on linux... :) Well. You could try GNUMail, which

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

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Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-13 Thread Wolfgang Hennerbichler
On Jul 13, 2012, at 22:27 , Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: * Wolfgang Sourdeau users@sogo.nu: Le 12-07-10 05:23, Wolfgang Hennerbichler a écrit : IMHO the only good imap client is either mutt or apple mail. apple mail lacks extensions, other than that this is THE desktop-client. if only it

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Marc Patermann
Jeroen, Jeroen Dekkers schrieb (08.07.2012 16:22 Uhr): At Sat, 7 Jul 2012 21:57:06 +0200, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: My problem with them dropping Thunderbird is, I don't see some important problems solved that should be solved before everyone uses webclients. Webclients assume you are always

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Marc Patermann
Anthony, Anthony Milan schrieb (09.07.2012 12:19 Uhr): Le 07/07/2012 21:57, Patrick Ben Koetter a écrit : On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas wrote: I use few extensions to overcome these lacks: - SIEVE and managesieve support http://sieve.mozdev.org/ - IMAP ACL support including a

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Anthony Milan
Le 10/07/2012 09:07, Marc Patermann a écrit : So, your point is that Thunderbird (with the mentiones extensions) is feature complete for the rest of known times and that it is not a problem Mozilla will not develope it any further than what we have today, right? In my opinion, feature complete

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Buddy Butterfly
They should incubate it into the Apache foundation. Then it would become a major product. Am 10.07.2012 09:29, schrieb Anthony Milan: Le 10/07/2012 09:07, Marc Patermann a écrit : So, your point is that Thunderbird (with the mentiones extensions) is feature complete for the rest of known

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Buddy Butterfly buddy.butter...@web.de: They should incubate it into the Apache foundation. Then it would become a major product. TB is a buggy client with blown up code depending heavily on firefox. It should be rewritten. p@rick -- state of mind () Digitale Kommunikation

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Rabl
Am 10. Juli 2012 09:50 CEST, Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de schrieb: * Buddy Butterfly buddy.butter...@web.de: TB is a buggy client with blown up code depending heavily on firefox. Thats right, but I love it - the extensions are the best feature, I don't know any other client with

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Martin Rabl users@sogo.nu: Am 10. Juli 2012 09:50 CEST, Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de schrieb: * Buddy Butterfly buddy.butter...@web.de: TB is a buggy client with blown up code depending heavily on firefox. Thats right, but I love it - the extensions are the best feature, I

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Buddy Butterfly
ACK in all pionts. That is why I would like to see it in Apache. They would rewrite the code step by step, I guess. Am 10.07.2012 10:15, schrieb Patrick Ben Koetter: * Martin Rabl users@sogo.nu: Am 10. Juli 2012 09:50 CEST, Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de schrieb: * Buddy

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Rabl
Am 10. Juli 2012 10:15 CEST, Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de schrieb: ACK. Just think how a non-buggy mail client with addons would rock. ;) (* smile *) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread André Schild
Am 10.07.2012 10:58, schrieb Martin Rabl: Am 10. Juli 2012 10:15 CEST, Patrick Ben Koetterp...@state-of-mind.de schrieb: ACK. Just think how a non-buggy mail client with addons would rock. ;) (* smile *) Hey, TB is not that bad... Soon (OpenChange) you will have the option to use

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Rabl
Soon ... what for client you mean ... hm ... is there any other Mailclient than TB ... ? Are you thinking of Pegasus? Runs only on Windows ... Am 10. Juli 2012 11:06 CEST, André Schild an...@schild.ws schrieb: Am 10.07.2012 10:58, schrieb Martin Rabl: Am 10. Juli 2012 10:15 CEST, Patrick

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread André Schild
Am 10.07.2012 11:10, schrieb Martin Rabl: Soon ... what for client you mean ... Look out for the MS product :) hm ... is there any other Mailclient than TB ... ? They sell it as mailclient, but not realy.. Are you thinking of Pegasus? Runs only on Windows ... Yeaa, was a long time

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Buddy Butterfly
all of them will convert to sup-mail ;-) Am 10.07.2012 11:10, schrieb Martin Rabl: Soon ... what for client you mean ... hm ... is there any other Mailclient than TB ... ? Are you thinking of Pegasus? Runs only on Windows ... Am 10. Juli 2012 11:06 CEST, André Schild an...@schild.ws

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Wolfgang Hennerbichler
On 07/10/2012 11:15 AM, André Schild wrote: Am 10.07.2012 11:10, schrieb Martin Rabl: Soon ... what for client you mean ... Look out for the MS product :) hm ... is there any other Mailclient than TB ... ? They sell it as mailclient, but not realy.. Are you thinking of Pegasus? Runs

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Rabl
Am 10. Juli 2012 11:15 CEST, André Schild an...@schild.ws schrieb: Am 10.07.2012 11:10, schrieb Martin Rabl: Soon ... what for client you mean ... Look out for the MS product :) hm ... is there any other Mailclient than TB ... ? They sell it as mailclient, but not realy.. (* Clap on head

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Rabl
Am 10. Juli 2012 11:23 CEST, Wolfgang Hennerbichler wo...@wogri.com schrieb: IMHO the only good imap client is either mutt or apple mail. apple mail lacks extensions, other than that this is THE desktop-client. if only it ran on linux... :) I switched from Apple Mail to TB when I switched

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Wolfgang Hennerbichler
On 07/10/2012 12:16 PM, Martin Rabl wrote: Am 10. Juli 2012 11:23 CEST, Wolfgang Hennerbichler wo...@wogri.com schrieb: IMHO the only good imap client is either mutt or apple mail. apple mail lacks extensions, other than that this is THE desktop-client. if only it ran on linux... :) I

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Buddy Butterfly
Urgently needed is rfc5465 aka IMAP notify. This is to reduce resource consumption with TCP connectiosn when using imap folders heavily. Am 10.07.2012 11:08, schrieb Martin Rabl: Am 10. Juli 2012 10:30 CEST, Buddy Butterfly buddy.butter...@web.de schrieb: ACK in all pionts. That is why I

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Martin Rabl
Am 10. Juli 2012 12:28 CEST, Wolfgang Hennerbichler wo...@wogri.com schrieb: respect, but searching in apple mail is a pleasure compared to TB... Point for you! ;-) -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Martin Rabl Dipl.-Informatiker (FH) -- users@sogo.nu https://inverse.ca/sogo/lists

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
At Tue, 10 Jul 2012 10:30:24 +0200, Buddy Butterfly wrote: ACK in all pionts. That is why I would like to see it in Apache. They would rewrite the code step by step, I guess. No, they would do a total rewrite to fit their arcane rules. First of all it would force everybody to use a mediocore

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-10 Thread Christian Rößner
Am 10.07.2012 um 11:23 schrieb Wolfgang Hennerbichler: IMHO the only good imap client is either mutt or apple mail. apple mail lacks extensions, other than that this is THE desktop-client. if only it ran on linux... :) +1000 :) -Christian Rößner --- Roessner-Network-Solutions Bachelor of

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-09 Thread Anthony Milan
Le 07/07/2012 21:57, Patrick Ben Koetter a écrit : On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas wrote: Since Mozilla is now trying even harder to kill Thunderbird ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model ), are there any alternative mail clients that are

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-07 Thread Sean M. Pappalardo
On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas wrote: Since Mozilla is now trying even harder to kill Thunderbird ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model ), are there any alternative mail clients that are platform independent and support Cal-/CardDAV? What

Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-07 Thread Patrick Ben Koetter
* Sean M. Pappalardo users@sogo.nu: On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas wrote: Since Mozilla is now trying even harder to kill Thunderbird ( https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird/Proposal:_New_Release_and_Governance_Model ), are there any alternative mail clients that are platform

R: Re: [SOGo] Alternatives to Thunderbird?

2012-07-07 Thread PerLinux.it
Cloud is something temporary. When people will understand how important is to have control on your data they will quickly forget about this crap innovation. Patrick Ben Koetter p...@state-of-mind.de ha scritto: * Sean M. Pappalardo users@sogo.nu: On 07/07/2012 06:55 PM, Sven Schwedas