Re: HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Dianne Skoll skrev den 2017-08-08 20:09: On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:01:52 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: why does the OP need to tell sendgrid his users passwords ? That is indeed a very good question. :) +1 It's not as if this is some sort of mass-mailing or marketing-oriented

Re: HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

2017-08-08 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 08 Aug 2017 20:01:52 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > why does the OP need to tell sendgrid his users passwords ? That is indeed a very good question. :) It's not as if this is some sort of mass-mailing or marketing-oriented email that needs to be tracked. Regards, Dianne.

Re: HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Dianne Skoll skrev den 2017-08-08 15:05: On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:00:04 -0500 David Jones wrote: I absolutely agree but it's possible that this part is out of his control. Sendgrid might be receiving a plain text email from the normal source and adding HTML to get that image in

RE: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-08 Thread Jacek Osuchowski
Skoll [mailto:d...@roaringpenguin.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2017 8:43 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Sender needs help with false positive On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:36:01 -0500 David Jones <djo...@ena.com> wrote: > The origin of the email and the path it takes ma

HTML (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

2017-08-08 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 08:00:04 -0500 David Jones wrote: > I absolutely agree but it's possible that this part is out of his > control. Sendgrid might be receiving a plain text email from the > normal source and adding HTML to get that image in there for > tracking. If you can't

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-08 Thread David Jones
On 08/08/2017 07:43 AM, Dianne Skoll wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:36:01 -0500 David Jones wrote: The origin of the email and the path it takes makes a big difference in how it's filtered. Sure, but doing a plain-text message with no HTML will immediately knock 2.2 points off

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-08 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 07:36:01 -0500 David Jones wrote: > The origin of the email and the path it takes makes a big difference > in how it's filtered. Sure, but doing a plain-text message with no HTML will immediately knock 2.2 points off the score. That's a pretty cheap and easy

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-08 Thread David Jones
On 08/07/2017 07:36 PM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: David, Thanks a lot. I will try to modify the email text to have more 'meat on the bone'. I am just surprised email with no links, no adds, no attempts to sell anything can be interpreted as a spam. That img in the email is a tag from SendGrid

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-08 Thread Benny Pedersen
Required score -20 on inbound scanning to protect outbound spam? Op MSG was dkim signed and valid au, why was it not ADD to whitelist auth, maybe i was sleeping :(

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-08 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Avoid marketing mass-mailers when sending administrative messages. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Tue, Aug 8, 2017 at 12:56 AM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: > We use emails to allow users to reset their passwords to our website. We send > very brief emails containing the reset

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017, Benny Pedersen wrote: Jacek Osuchowski skrev den 2017-08-08 00:56: I understand you trying to provide great software to fight email spam stop using bad amavisd.conf, ask for help on amavisd maillist since your issue is not spamassassin if you like to get a better

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 19:15 -0400, Alex wrote: > > version=3.4.0 > > Version 3.4.0 is like ten years old. I also don't recall BAYES_999 > being available in that version, so one thing or the other is not > correct. Minor nitpick: 3.4.0 was released in Feb 2014, slightly less than 10 years ago.

RE: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread Jacek Osuchowski
Message- From: David B Funk [mailto:dbf...@engineering.uiowa.edu] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 7:54 PM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Sender needs help with false positive On Mon, 7 Aug 2017, David Jones wrote: [snip..] > This IP is listed on SORBS and Spamhaus ZEN wh

RE: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: This is an email I sent to IsNotSpam.com. They list the whole thing when testing for spam. I am getting a lot of complains from our customers that our emails are not received. Our domain is not blacklisted anywhere so I suspect it is the spam

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017, David Jones wrote: [snip..] This IP is listed on SORBS and Spamhaus ZEN which are going to cause problems with delivery to many receiving mail filters, not just SpamAssassin. http://multirbl.valli.org/lookup/68.192.71.191.html That's his PC which is the MSA. As it's the

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread Dianne Skoll
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 19:28:04 -0400 "Jacek Osuchowski" wrote: > This is an email I sent to IsNotSpam.com. They list the whole thing > when testing for spam. I am getting a lot of complains from our > customers that our emails are not received. Our domain is not > blacklisted

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
Jacek Osuchowski skrev den 2017-08-08 00:56: I understand you trying to provide great software to fight email spam stop using bad amavisd.conf, ask for help on amavisd maillist since your issue is not spamassassin if you like to get a better life use spampd instaed of amavisd, amavisd is

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread David Jones
Mailing list Subject: Re: Sender needs help with false positive Hi, On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Jacek Osuchowski <ja...@osuchowski.net> wrote: We use emails to allow users to reset their passwords to our website. We send very brief emails containing the reset password. Example b

Password reset strategies (was Re: Sender needs help with false positive)

2017-08-07 Thread Dianne Skoll
[Just replying to one aspect of the original message.] On Mon, 7 Aug 2017 18:26:00 -0500 David Jones wrote: > First, it's a bad idea for a number of reasons to send passwords via > email. Most modern "lost password" mail loops use a unique URL that > expires after a short

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread David B Funk
On Mon, 7 Aug 2017, Alex wrote: Hi, On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: We use emails to allow users to reset their passwords to our website. We send very brief emails containing the reset password. Example between : Your password to access

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread David Jones
On 08/07/2017 05:56 PM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: We use emails to allow users to reset their passwords to our website. We send very brief emails containing the reset password. Example between : Your password to access your account is: S]U3bC7k Upon successful login you may change your

RE: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread Jacek Osuchowski
). Is there anything in the email we send that could trigger flagging as a spam. THANK YOU https://pastebin.com/J1cdCHAe -Original Message- From: Alex [mailto:mysqlstud...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 07, 2017 7:16 PM To: ja...@osuchowski.net; SA Mailing list Subject: Re: Sender needs help

Re: Sender needs help with false positive

2017-08-07 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Jacek Osuchowski wrote: > We use emails to allow users to reset their passwords to our website. We > send very brief emails containing the reset password. Example between : > >> > Your password to access your account is: > >