RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Chuck -
Thanks for the info and lead to check something else.
I am all IPv4 here, though the IPv6 services may still be enabled on
that system.  I will need to check.
I got the box in and setup with minimal customizations and was trying to
get this rolled out quickly (I do this because a lot of our customer
base does the same, believe it or not).
I'll go dobule-check the box and make sure I've got the IPv6 stuff
turned off and try again.
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:07 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Now the reason why 4) below was not working (all 64-bit), is that I
 didn't have an address specified in my connector tag.  Apparently,
at
 all windows revs prior to 2008 server, if you didn't supply an IP
 address, Windows would gladly supply 0.0.0.0, but now at 2008 it
 doesn't (possibly vista also?).

Works fine on my Vista 64 box, with no address attribute for the
Connector.  Looks like there's some 2008 Server setting that's
ignoring IPv4 and using only IPv6 if no bind address is given.

 Instead of seeing 0.0.0.0:80 in the first column, you'll 
 see [::]:80.

On my Vista 64 box, I see 0.0.0.0:8080 but not [::]:8080, with no
address attribute in my Connector.  I've got IPv6 disabled on my
router, so I can't test that at the moment.

 there are a number of these [::] addresses in the list,
 so MS possibly hasn't ported all their services yet.

Has nothing to do with porting services, but rather with IPv6-only being
the default on your installation.  I do see both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses
in listening mode for the various Windows services on my system.

 - Chuck


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Did the double-check.
IPv6 protocol is disabled on the active network connection.
So it shouldn't be an IPv6 issue.
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:02 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

Chuck -
Thanks for the info and lead to check something else.
I am all IPv4 here, though the IPv6 services may still be enabled on
that system.  I will need to check.
I got the box in and setup with minimal customizations and was trying to
get this rolled out quickly (I do this because a lot of our customer
base does the same, believe it or not).
I'll go dobule-check the box and make sure I've got the IPv6 stuff
turned off and try again.
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 11:07 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Now the reason why 4) below was not working (all 64-bit), is that I
 didn't have an address specified in my connector tag.  Apparently,
at
 all windows revs prior to 2008 server, if you didn't supply an IP
 address, Windows would gladly supply 0.0.0.0, but now at 2008 it
 doesn't (possibly vista also?).

Works fine on my Vista 64 box, with no address attribute for the
Connector.  Looks like there's some 2008 Server setting that's
ignoring IPv4 and using only IPv6 if no bind address is given.

 Instead of seeing 0.0.0.0:80 in the first column, you'll 
 see [::]:80.

On my Vista 64 box, I see 0.0.0.0:8080 but not [::]:8080, with no
address attribute in my Connector.  I've got IPv6 disabled on my
router, so I can't test that at the moment.

 there are a number of these [::] addresses in the list,
 so MS possibly hasn't ported all their services yet.

Has nothing to do with porting services, but rather with IPv6-only being
the default on your installation.  I do see both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses
in listening mode for the various Windows services on my system.

 - Chuck


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-08 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 IPv6 protocol is disabled on the active network connection.
 So it shouldn't be an IPv6 issue.

But it clearly is, since your netstat output shows IPv6 addresses, not IPv4.

 - Chuck


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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-08 Thread Mladen Turk

Jeffrey Janner wrote:

Did the double-check.
IPv6 protocol is disabled on the active network connection.
So it shouldn't be an IPv6 issue.


It should be disabled on all connections including localhost.
NULL address means 'all interfaces'.


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Janner
OK, after boning up on IPv6 addresses, I see what's happening.

With no address specified in the connector, and with both the IPv4 and
IPv6 protocols installed, APR is setting up a listener only on the IPv6
protocol any address port.  Windows displays this as [::] in
accordance with IPv6 addressing guidelines where you can omit leading
zeros and empty address segments. In Windows, the IPv4 any address is
always displayed as 0.0.0.0, which is not coming up in this instance.

So the question is, why is APR only setting up the IPv6 address in this
case and not the IPv4?  I have to specifically give the connector the
IPv4 any address in order to get this to work.

Is there any way to tell Tomcat/APR that I want to default to IPv4?  It
doesn't appear that I can remove the IPv6 protocol from the Windows 2008
stack.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:19 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 IPv6 protocol is disabled on the active network connection.
 So it shouldn't be an IPv6 issue.

But it clearly is, since your netstat output shows IPv6 addresses, not
IPv4.

 - Chuck


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-08 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Will try that and see.
The machine has 4 network ports, 3 of which are disabled completely
(oops, actually unplugged).
The main port is configured with the IPv6 protocol installed, but it is
unchecked.
Actually, all ports have it installed, and I haven't found a way to
uninstall it.  But all 4 ports do have the IPv6 protocol disabled
(unchecked).
I'll try actually disabling the other interfaces and see if that makes a
difference, but I suspect not.
There is no specific loopback adapter connection, so localhost just
resolves to 127.0.0.1 and should get looped by the stack, correct?
Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Mladen Turk [mailto:mt...@apache.org] 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 10:26 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Windows x64 Installer

Jeffrey Janner wrote:
 Did the double-check.
 IPv6 protocol is disabled on the active network connection.
 So it shouldn't be an IPv6 issue.

It should be disabled on all connections including localhost.
NULL address means 'all interfaces'.


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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-02 Thread János Löbb


On May 29, 2009, at 7:15 PM, Markus Schönhaber wrote:


János Löbb:


Because the electron has resting mess, it will never go with speed of
light.  The info by the way is not supplied by the electron, but
rather with electromagnetic waves around the wire who have no resting
mess,


Oh, what a mess!
;-)

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Yeah, the electron mass at c is a mess :)
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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-02 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Eureka

I figured this out!!

First, on 3) below.  The reason it worked was that Tomcat just ignored
the 32-bit APR library.  Acted as though it wasn't there.  Once I set up
an HTTPS connector, I noticed this because the error came back that it
couldn't find .keystore file.

Now the reason why 4) below was not working (all 64-bit), is that I
didn't have an address specified in my connector tag.  Apparently, at
all windows revs prior to 2008 server, if you didn't supply an IP
address, Windows would gladly supply 0.0.0.0, but now at 2008 it doesn't
(possibly vista also?).  You will see this if you go to the command
window and do a netstat -an.  Instead of seeing 0.0.0.0:80 in the first
column, you'll see [::]:80.  So once I added an address=0.0.0.0 to my
connector tags, everything started working.

Once again, Microsoft breaks the stack and goes their own way.
Amazingly, with no 3rd party software running, there are a number of
these [::] addresses in the list, so MS possibly hasn't ported all their
services yet.  Really wondering what else isn't working correctly.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 9:03 AM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

Oops, on 3) I should have said I was using the APR, but for HTTP only,
not HTTPS.
I was thinking AJP for some reason.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:53 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

1) Correct
2) Didn't try and agree with you.
3) Correct.  Not using APR, just HTTP (HTTPS later, but not tried)
4) Correct.

System config:  Windows 2008 Standard (64-bit), Tomcat 5.5 standard
install running as standalone web server.
Copied the 32-bit install and replaced tomcat5.exe, tomcat5w.exe and
tcnative-1.dll with the current 64-bit versions from apache.org web/ftp
site.
Issued a tomcat5.exe //is, with appropriate options and jvm, to create
as a service.
There are no proxys on the system.  Windows firewall is off.  Using
Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0.4 for virus  firewall security (same
results with firewall enabled/disabled).
Just trying to pull up the welcome page (http://ip:8080) and getting the
results described.

Also on 4) telnet ip 8080 will get a connection failure.

Jeff

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From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Tested all those options before I sent the mail.

Let me summarize to see if I understand this properly:

1) 32-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate
system

2) 32-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: ?? (shouldn't work)

3) 64-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate
system (it shouldn't work - you probably aren't using APR in this case)

4) 64-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: works from localhost, but not from a separate
system

Is the above correct?

 - Chuck


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-02 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Now the reason why 4) below was not working (all 64-bit), is that I
 didn't have an address specified in my connector tag.  Apparently, at
 all windows revs prior to 2008 server, if you didn't supply an IP
 address, Windows would gladly supply 0.0.0.0, but now at 2008 it
 doesn't (possibly vista also?).

Works fine on my Vista 64 box, with no address attribute for the Connector.  
Looks like there's some 2008 Server setting that's ignoring IPv4 and using only 
IPv6 if no bind address is given.

 Instead of seeing 0.0.0.0:80 in the first column, you'll 
 see [::]:80.

On my Vista 64 box, I see 0.0.0.0:8080 but not [::]:8080, with no address 
attribute in my Connector.  I've got IPv6 disabled on my router, so I can't 
test that at the moment.

 there are a number of these [::] addresses in the list,
 so MS possibly hasn't ported all their services yet.

Has nothing to do with porting services, but rather with IPv6-only being the 
default on your installation.  I do see both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses in 
listening mode for the various Windows services on my system.

 - Chuck


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-06-01 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Oops, on 3) I should have said I was using the APR, but for HTTP only,
not HTTPS.
I was thinking AJP for some reason.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:53 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

1) Correct
2) Didn't try and agree with you.
3) Correct.  Not using APR, just HTTP (HTTPS later, but not tried)
4) Correct.

System config:  Windows 2008 Standard (64-bit), Tomcat 5.5 standard
install running as standalone web server.
Copied the 32-bit install and replaced tomcat5.exe, tomcat5w.exe and
tcnative-1.dll with the current 64-bit versions from apache.org web/ftp
site.
Issued a tomcat5.exe //is, with appropriate options and jvm, to create
as a service.
There are no proxys on the system.  Windows firewall is off.  Using
Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0.4 for virus  firewall security (same
results with firewall enabled/disabled).
Just trying to pull up the welcome page (http://ip:8080) and getting the
results described.

Also on 4) telnet ip 8080 will get a connection failure.

Jeff

-Original Message-
From: Caldarale, Charles R [mailto:chuck.caldar...@unisys.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:54 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Tested all those options before I sent the mail.

Let me summarize to see if I understand this properly:

1) 32-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate
system

2) 32-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: ?? (shouldn't work)

3) 64-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate
system (it shouldn't work - you probably aren't using APR in this case)

4) 64-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: works from localhost, but not from a separate
system

Is the above correct?

 - Chuck


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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-29 Thread János Löbb


On May 28, 2009, at 5:36 PM, André Warnier wrote:


Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Mladen Turk [mailto:mt...@apache.org]
Subject: Re: Windows x64 Installer

You've beet me by a millisecond ;)

Yeah, but that's 300 km for an electron...


And please note that from the electron's point of view, it may be a  
lot less than a millisecond..


Because the electron has resting mess, it will never go with speed of  
light.  The info by the way is not supplied by the electron, but  
rather with electromagnetic waves around the wire who have no resting  
mess, so for them it is instantaneous whether it is 300km or to the  
end of the Universe :)

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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Tested all those options before I sent the mail.

Windows firewall: off.  Symantec EP11 firewall: disabled
Still no response off the wire.
Running 32-bit version worked OK and well as 64-bit with 32-bit APR.
Only 64-bit with 64-bit was a problem.

Could not connect with telnet nor browser. With SEP11 firewall turned on, logs 
showed requests to 8080 coming in and being approved, but still no response.  
This was really odd.

I agree, the IP shouldn't care about real vs. loopback.  But apparently it did 
in this case.  I would say it has something to do with actually going to the 
hardware (loopback would be higher in the software layer).


-Original Message-
From: will trillich [mailto:trill...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:39 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Windows x64 Installer

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
 I installed them on Windows 2008 x64, and could not get a
 response from Tomcat, if coming from the net.  The local
 browser would pull it up just fine.

 Tomcat (with or without APR) doesn't care if the request
 came via loopback or ethernet.  If it worked from the local
 browser, your firewall may be blocking the port from
 remote access.

Another variable to throw into the mix, just for fun -- do you have a
proxy? Squid doing a little web-caching perhaps? That can mess you up
as well.

Try
   telnet ip.address.here 8080
   GET / HTTP/1.0


(follow the GET with a blank line) and see if you get any HTML back.
You can try it from the same computer and/or other computers nearby.

If you do get an appropriate HTTP response, Tomcat is well and you've
got other issues. If you can't open the port at all, Tomcat isn't
listening. If you can open the port but Tomcat doesn't play nice with
an HTTP response, your configuration needs attention.

-- 
will trillich
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needs. -- S.Covey, the 8th Habit

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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-29 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Tested all those options before I sent the mail.

Let me summarize to see if I understand this properly:

1) 32-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate system

2) 32-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: ?? (shouldn't work)

3) 64-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate system (it 
shouldn't work - you probably aren't using APR in this case)

4) 64-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: works from localhost, but not from a separate system

Is the above correct?

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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-29 Thread Jeffrey Janner
1) Correct
2) Didn't try and agree with you.
3) Correct.  Not using APR, just HTTP (HTTPS later, but not tried)
4) Correct.

System config:  Windows 2008 Standard (64-bit), Tomcat 5.5 standard
install running as standalone web server.
Copied the 32-bit install and replaced tomcat5.exe, tomcat5w.exe and
tcnative-1.dll with the current 64-bit versions from apache.org web/ftp
site.
Issued a tomcat5.exe //is, with appropriate options and jvm, to create
as a service.
There are no proxys on the system.  Windows firewall is off.  Using
Symantec Endpoint Protection 11.0.4 for virus  firewall security (same
results with firewall enabled/disabled).
Just trying to pull up the welcome page (http://ip:8080) and getting the
results described.

Also on 4) telnet ip 8080 will get a connection failure.

Jeff

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 12:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 Tested all those options before I sent the mail.

Let me summarize to see if I understand this properly:

1) 32-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate
system

2) 32-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: ?? (shouldn't work)

3) 64-bit JVM, 32-bit DLL: works from localhost and from a separate
system (it shouldn't work - you probably aren't using APR in this case)

4) 64-bit JVM, 64-bit DLL: works from localhost, but not from a separate
system

Is the above correct?

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-29 Thread Markus Schönhaber
János Löbb:

 Because the electron has resting mess, it will never go with speed of  
 light.  The info by the way is not supplied by the electron, but  
 rather with electromagnetic waves around the wire who have no resting  
 mess,

Oh, what a mess!
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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Will -
Based on our empirical testing, the tcnative-1.dll offers noticeable
performance improvement. It also offers an improved and probably more
secure SSL environment as it incorporates OpenSSL versus the built-in
java SSL implementation.
If you are using SSL, you will need to alter your SSL connector
definition somewhat, but ultimately, it's much easier to implement.
We run in standalone mode, so I'm not sure of the performance
improvement if you are using only AJP.
Jeff

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To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: Windows x64 Installer


If we skip the tcnative DLL, are we missing anything significant?
We're getting along without it for now...




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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Debbie Shapiro
I just did the 64-bit windows installation for Tomcat 6, but I was not
aware that there is a tcnative-1.dll that needed to be replaced. Where
do I find the 64-bit version of this file? Or is that just for Tomcat 5?

I'm not that terribly familiar with the inner workings of Tomcat, so
this is all new to me.

Debbie Shapiro, Data Warehouse Manager
Office: 425.402.2233 
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:44 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Windows x64 Installer

Would anyone like to tackle  post an installer for 64-bit Windows?
The current installer is 32-bit only.
I know that it is fairly simple to convert an installed 32-bit Tomcat to
64-bit:

1) Install a 64-bit Java.
2) Download the 64-bit Procrun executable and replace Tomcat5.exe 
Tomcat5w.exe with them.
3) Download the 64-bit version of the tcnative-1.dll file and replace
the existing version.
4) Run the Tomcat5.exe in Install mode to install the 64-bit version,
making sure to point
   to the 64-bit Java, etc.
   (still puts Procrun info under the HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node folder
in the registry.
It should be up a level for a 64-bit process, no?  Still works
apparently.)

However, if whomever maintains the NullSoft binary installer could
create a version that
distributes the 64-bit files, that would make like much easier out here
in the field.
(both 5.5 and 6.x please?)

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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
To be honest, I forgot where I got it from.
Somewhere in the Apache.org FTP site.  It's in the normal place you
would get the latest version.
I think I found it using Google.
You only need it if you are running with (i.e. installed) the Native
Library support.
Otherwise, you can ignore it.

-Original Message-
From: Debbie Shapiro [mailto:dshap...@cardiacscience.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 10:32 AM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

I just did the 64-bit windows installation for Tomcat 6, but I was not
aware that there is a tcnative-1.dll that needed to be replaced. Where
do I find the 64-bit version of this file? Or is that just for Tomcat 5?

I'm not that terribly familiar with the inner workings of Tomcat, so
this is all new to me.

Debbie Shapiro, Data Warehouse Manager
Office: 425.402.2233 
-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:44 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Windows x64 Installer

Would anyone like to tackle  post an installer for 64-bit Windows?
The current installer is 32-bit only.
I know that it is fairly simple to convert an installed 32-bit Tomcat to
64-bit:

1) Install a 64-bit Java.
2) Download the 64-bit Procrun executable and replace Tomcat5.exe 
Tomcat5w.exe with them.
3) Download the 64-bit version of the tcnative-1.dll file and replace
the existing version.
4) Run the Tomcat5.exe in Install mode to install the 64-bit version,
making sure to point
   to the 64-bit Java, etc.
   (still puts Procrun info under the HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node folder
in the registry.
It should be up a level for a 64-bit process, no?  Still works
apparently.)

However, if whomever maintains the NullSoft binary installer could
create a version that
distributes the 64-bit files, that would make like much easier out here
in the field.
(both 5.5 and 6.x please?)

Jeff Janner 


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Debbie Shapiro [mailto:dshap...@cardiacscience.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 I just did the 64-bit windows installation for Tomcat 6, but I was not
 aware that there is a tcnative-1.dll that needed to be replaced. Where
 do I find the 64-bit version of this file?

http://archive.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-connectors/native/1.1.16/binaries/win64/x64/

You don't need the APR .dll, but it will likely improve performance, 
especially if using SSL.  Note that if you choose to use it, the SSL config is 
completely different for APR.

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Mladen Turk

Debbie Shapiro wrote:

I just did the 64-bit windows installation for Tomcat 6, but I was not
aware that there is a tcnative-1.dll that needed to be replaced. Where
do I find the 64-bit version of this file? Or is that just for Tomcat 5?


The regular place. tcnative-1 is the same for all Tomcat versions.
http://www.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-connectors/native/1.1.16/binaries/

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Mladen Turk

Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Debbie Shapiro [mailto:dshap...@cardiacscience.com]
Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer

I just did the 64-bit windows installation for Tomcat 6, but I was not
aware that there is a tcnative-1.dll that needed to be replaced. Where
do I find the 64-bit version of this file?


http://archive.apache.org/dist/tomcat/tomcat-connectors/native/1.1.16/binaries/win64/x64/



You've beet me by a millisecond ;)


You don't need the APR .dll, but it will likely improve performance, 
especially if using SSL.  Note that if you choose to use it, the SSL config is completely 
different for APR.



The tcnative-1.dll starting from 1.1.15 has apr and OpenSSL 0.9.8i
statically compiled in, so that's all you'll need.
We couldn't ship that earlier because of US crypto law restrictions.
(http://www.apache.org/dev/crypto.html)

And of course, there is no performance difference whatsoever.

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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Mladen Turk [mailto:mt...@apache.org]
 Subject: Re: Windows x64 Installer
 
 You've beet me by a millisecond ;)

Yeah, but that's 300 km for an electron...

 - Chuck


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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread André Warnier

Caldarale, Charles R wrote:

From: Mladen Turk [mailto:mt...@apache.org]
Subject: Re: Windows x64 Installer

You've beet me by a millisecond ;)


Yeah, but that's 300 km for an electron...


And please note that from the electron's point of view, it may be a lot 
less than a millisecond..


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Mark -
They may need some work.
I installed them on Windows 2008 x64, and could not get a response from
Tomcat, if coming from the net.  The local browser would pull it up just
fine.
They worked fine on a Windows 2003 x64 box I have, and I got it to work
with the 32-bit library that was downloaded by the installer.
The full 32-bit version (Java/Tomcat/native libs) works fine on the
machine.  Just the full 64-bit with the supposed 64-bit library that
would not respond.
Jeff

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I need to check how the APR/native library is handled. That may still
need some work.


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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread Caldarale, Charles R
 From: Jeffrey Janner [mailto:jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com]
 Subject: RE: Windows x64 Installer
 
 They may need some work.
 I installed them on Windows 2008 x64, and could not get a 
 response from Tomcat, if coming from the net.  The local
 browser would pull it up just fine.

Tomcat (with or without APR) doesn't care if the request came via loopback or 
ethernet.  If it worked from the local browser, your firewall may be blocking 
the port from remote access.

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-28 Thread will trillich
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Caldarale, Charles R
chuck.caldar...@unisys.com wrote:
 I installed them on Windows 2008 x64, and could not get a
 response from Tomcat, if coming from the net.  The local
 browser would pull it up just fine.

 Tomcat (with or without APR) doesn't care if the request
 came via loopback or ethernet.  If it worked from the local
 browser, your firewall may be blocking the port from
 remote access.

Another variable to throw into the mix, just for fun -- do you have a
proxy? Squid doing a little web-caching perhaps? That can mess you up
as well.

Try
   telnet ip.address.here 8080
   GET / HTTP/1.0


(follow the GET with a blank line) and see if you get any HTML back.
You can try it from the same computer and/or other computers nearby.

If you do get an appropriate HTTP response, Tomcat is well and you've
got other issues. If you can't open the port at all, Tomcat isn't
listening. If you can open the port but Tomcat doesn't play nice with
an HTTP response, your configuration needs attention.

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Thomas
Jeffrey Janner wrote:
 Would anyone like to tackle  post an installer for 64-bit Windows?
 The current installer is 32-bit only.

Already done and will be in 6.0.21 onwards. (didn't quite make 6.0.20)

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RE: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-27 Thread Jeffrey Janner
Thanks Mark.
One more reason to hound my developers to move up.
Any reason that an app written for 5.5 could not be moved wholesale to
6.x?
Also, did I leave out anything in my manual steps?
JEff

Mark Thomas wrote:

Already done and will be in 6.0.21 onwards. (didn't quite make 6.0.20)

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-27 Thread will trillich
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:43 PM, Jeffrey Janner
jeffrey.jan...@polydyne.com wrote:
 Would anyone like to tackle  post an installer for 64-bit Windows?
 The current installer is 32-bit only.

Hi Jeff --

We just got done tackling a 64-bit windows install, and we're writing
up a more complete doc, but have a look at this preliminary doc we
posted last week:

TOMCAT 5 as a SERVICE under 64-bit WINDOWS:
http://faq.serensoft.com/index.php?action=artikelcat=21id=66

It's not an installer, but it is all the steps we had to complete in
order to get the job done. Hope this helps!


 I know that it is fairly simple to convert an installed 32-bit Tomcat to
 64-bit:

 1) Install a 64-bit Java.
 2) Download the 64-bit Procrun executable and replace Tomcat5.exe 
 Tomcat5w.exe with them.
 3) Download the 64-bit version of the tcnative-1.dll file and replace
 the existing version.

If we skip the tcnative DLL, are we missing anything significant?
We're getting along without it for now...


 4) Run the Tomcat5.exe in Install mode to install the 64-bit version,
 making sure to point
   to the 64-bit Java, etc.
   (still puts Procrun info under the HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node folder
 in the registry.
    It should be up a level for a 64-bit process, no?  Still works
 apparently.)

 However, if whomever maintains the NullSoft binary installer could
 create a version that
 distributes the 64-bit files, that would make like much easier out here
 in the field.
 (both 5.5 and 6.x please?)

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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-27 Thread Mark Thomas
Jeffrey Janner wrote:
 Thanks Mark.
 One more reason to hound my developers to move up.
 Any reason that an app written for 5.5 could not be moved wholesale to
 6.x?
 Also, did I leave out anything in my manual steps?

Looks good to me.

I need to check how the APR/native library is handled. That may still
need some work.

I've just added this to the 5.5.x list of things to port. Once it gets
the votes, it will get ported.

Mark

 JEff
 
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Re: Windows x64 Installer

2009-05-27 Thread Mladen Turk

Jeffrey Janner wrote:

Would anyone like to tackle  post an installer for 64-bit Windows?
The current installer is 32-bit only.
I know that it is fairly simple to convert an installed 32-bit Tomcat to
64-bit:

4) Run the Tomcat5.exe in Install mode to install the 64-bit version,
making sure to point
   to the 64-bit Java, etc.
   (still puts Procrun info under the HKLM\Software\Wow6432Node folder
in the registry.
It should be up a level for a 64-bit process, no?  Still works
apparently.)



This is because the 32-bit tomcat(5|6)w.exe (the GUI manager)
can be used both for 32 and 64 bit tomcat(5|6).exe managing
multiple instances at once. (E.g having 32-bit and 64-bit) on
the same box.

In the future we'll ship only the 32-bit tomcat6w.exe and
tomcat6.exe's matching the running JVM.

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