RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-07 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

> Hi Mark, 
>> I got the link of mailing list archives from Konstantin (thanks to him :)). 
>> I would like to know about the possibility for Bug >>tracker dump of Tomcat.

>>>It is on my todo list.

Thanks

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Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-07 Thread Mark Thomas
Iqbal, Aftab wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>  
>> 2009/9/4 Iqbal, Aftab :
>>> Any update or news about the maling list archives and bug tracker dumps ?
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Aftab Iqbal
>>>
> 
>> By the way, the mail archives are available here:
>> http://tomcat.apache.org/mail/dev/
> 
> I got the link of mailing list archives from Konstantin (thanks to him :)). I 
> would like to know about the possibility for Bug tracker dump of Tomcat.

It is on my todo list.

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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-07 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

Hi Mark,
 
>2009/9/4 Iqbal, Aftab :
>>
>> Any update or news about the maling list archives and bug tracker dumps ?
>>
>> regards
>> Aftab Iqbal
>>

>By the way, the mail archives are available here:
>http://tomcat.apache.org/mail/dev/

I got the link of mailing list archives from Konstantin (thanks to him :)). I 
would like to know about the possibility for Bug tracker dump of Tomcat.

>Those are gzipped mbox files. Though I do not see that location to be
>documented/mentioned anywhere.


thanks and looking forward for your kind response.
regards
Aftab Iqbal

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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-04 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

Dear Konstantin,

>By the way, the mail archives are available here:
>http://tomcat.apache.org/mail/dev/
>
>Those are gzipped mbox files. Though I do not see that location to be
>documented/mentioned anywhere.
>
>
>Best regards,
>Konstantin Kolinko

thanks for the link to the archives.

regards
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Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-04 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
2009/9/4 Iqbal, Aftab :
>
> Any update or news about the maling list archives and bug tracker dumps ?
>
> regards
> Aftab Iqbal
>

By the way, the mail archives are available here:
http://tomcat.apache.org/mail/dev/

Those are gzipped mbox files. Though I do not see that location to be
documented/mentioned anywhere.


Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko

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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-04 Thread Iqbal, Aftab



Dear Mark,

>> 
>> thanks for your response and cooperation. For the evaluation of our research 
>> work, we would like to run experiments on the >last 12 months activity on 
>> Tomcat project.
>> 
>> I would like to have the tomcat-dev archives of last 12 months (Aug2008 - 
>> Aug 2009). It would be even nicer if i can have 1 >compressed file for one 
>> month instead of 1 compressed file for all 12 months, if it is possible.
>> 
>> regarding the bugzilla database, it is OK to get the whole dump. It would be 
>> great if you upload it somewhere and let me >download it from their.
>> 
>> thanks for your cooperation and looking forward for your kind response.
>

>OK. Give me a couple of days and I'll get that sorted for you.

Any update or news about the maling list archives and bug tracker dumps ?

>Mark

regards
Aftab Iqbal


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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-03 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

>>09/03/2009 04:20 PM, Iqbal, Aftab:
>> I just wanted to confirm the mailing list where tomcat developers
>> discuss

>tomcat-dev is the right place.

thanks for confirming that.

>Saying that, I would like to point you a way of discussing through
>mailing lists:
>http://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+posting+etiquette
>You will find some inspiration for efficiency when discussing.

>I can summarize with:
>- dont full quote the original message you reply to
>- dont top post
>- use plain text only

thanks for the pointer :-)

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Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-03 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina

09/03/2009 04:20 PM, Iqbal, Aftab:

I just wanted to confirm the mailing list where tomcat developers
discuss


tomcat-dev is the right place.
Saying that, I would like to point you a way of discussing through
mailing lists:
http://www.google.com/search?q=mailing+list+posting+etiquette
You will find some inspiration for efficiency when discussing.

I can summarize with:
- dont full quote the original message you reply to
- dont top post
- use plain text only


Regarding the mailing archives format: Tomcat mailing lists are
hosted in different format so why not go for an available format
and parser instead of finding a new parser or writing a new one.


Yes, why not. I just wanted to indicate you parsing is not so hard. :-)

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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-03 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

Dear Rakotomandimby,

I just wanted to confirm the mailing list where tomcat developers discuss 
Tomcat architecture, new features, roadmap of new releases etc. so that i make 
sure that i have requested the right archives for our research evaluation.

Regarding the mailing archives format: Tomcat mailing lists are hosted in 
different format so why not go for an available format and parser instead of 
finding a new parser or writing a new one.

regards
Aftab Iqbal

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From: Rakotomandimby Mihamina [mailto:miham...@gulfsat.mg]
Sent: Thu 9/3/2009 1:44 PM
To: users@tomcat.apache.org
Subject: Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research 
evaluation
 

> I have question regarding the Tomcat-dev mailing list. I was
> looking at the archives of tomcat-dev mailing list and found that
> whenever a new bug is logged on bugzilla bug tracker or a commit
> has been done on SVN, an email is sent to the tomcat-dev mailing
> list ( please correct me here if i am wrong ). I would like to
> know, if the tomcat developers discuss the development issues also
> on this mailing list or if tomcat has any other mailing list or
> discussion forum for developers for that?

According to me
- discussion a commit: not very common. usually done with another commit.
- discussion a bug is generally done on the bugtracker.

> Regarding the archives of mailing list, it would be very easier to
> parse the archives, if i get the monthly archives in .mbox format.
> The reason is, i have a parser which parses email of type .mbox
> extension. The archives hosted at Apache looks like they have
> monthly archives stored in .mbox format e.g.
> [http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tomcat-dev/200804.mbox/browser]

First of all, extension does not indicate reliably the format of a file.
Parsing mbox file is easyly done in common programming language.

>  NOTE: I am not familiar much with the differences of other
> archives extension

Whatever format you face, you will always find a parser.

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Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-03 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina



I have question regarding the Tomcat-dev mailing list. I was
looking at the archives of tomcat-dev mailing list and found that
whenever a new bug is logged on bugzilla bug tracker or a commit
has been done on SVN, an email is sent to the tomcat-dev mailing
list ( please correct me here if i am wrong ). I would like to
know, if the tomcat developers discuss the development issues also
on this mailing list or if tomcat has any other mailing list or
discussion forum for developers for that?


According to me
- discussion a commit: not very common. usually done with another commit.
- discussion a bug is generally done on the bugtracker.


Regarding the archives of mailing list, it would be very easier to
parse the archives, if i get the monthly archives in .mbox format.
The reason is, i have a parser which parses email of type .mbox
extension. The archives hosted at Apache looks like they have
monthly archives stored in .mbox format e.g.
[http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tomcat-dev/200804.mbox/browser]


First of all, extension does not indicate reliably the format of a file.
Parsing mbox file is easyly done in common programming language.


 NOTE: I am not familiar much with the differences of other
archives extension


Whatever format you face, you will always find a parser.

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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-03 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

Dear Mark,

I have question regarding the Tomcat-dev mailing list. I was looking at the 
archives of tomcat-dev mailing list and found that whenever a new bug is logged 
on bugzilla bug tracker or a commit has been done on SVN, an email is sent to 
the tomcat-dev mailing list ( please correct me here if i am wrong ). I would 
like to know, if the tomcat developers discuss the development issues also on 
this mailing list or if tomcat has any other mailing list or discussion forum 
for developers for that ?

Regarding the archives of mailing list, it would be very easier to parse the 
archives, if i get the monthly archives in .mbox format. The reason is, i have 
a parser which parses email of type .mbox extension. The archives hosted at 
Apache looks like they have monthly archives stored in .mbox format e.g. 
[http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/tomcat-dev/200804.mbox/browser] 

NOTE: I am not familiar much with the differences of other archives extension

looking forward for your kind response.
regards
Aftab Iqbal

-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
Sent: Tue 9/1/2009 2:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research 
evaluation
 
Iqbal, Aftab wrote:
> Dear Mark,
> 
> thanks for your response and cooperation. For the evaluation of our research 
> work, we would like to run experiments on the last 12 months activity on 
> Tomcat project.
> 
> I would like to have the tomcat-dev archives of last 12 months (Aug2008 - Aug 
> 2009). It would be even nicer if i can have 1 compressed file for one month 
> instead of 1 compressed file for all 12 months, if it is possible.
> 
> regarding the bugzilla database, it is OK to get the whole dump. It would be 
> great if you upload it somewhere and let me download it from their.
> 
> thanks for your cooperation and looking forward for your kind response.

OK. Give me a couple of days and I'll get that sorted for you.

Mark




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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-01 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

Dear Mark,

thanks

regards
Aftab Iqbal

-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
Sent: Tue 9/1/2009 2:08 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research 
evaluation
 
Iqbal, Aftab wrote:
> Dear Mark,
> 
> thanks for your response and cooperation. For the evaluation of our research 
> work, we would like to run experiments on the last 12 months activity on 
> Tomcat project.
> 
> I would like to have the tomcat-dev archives of last 12 months (Aug2008 - Aug 
> 2009). It would be even nicer if i can have 1 compressed file for one month 
> instead of 1 compressed file for all 12 months, if it is possible.
> 
> regarding the bugzilla database, it is OK to get the whole dump. It would be 
> great if you upload it somewhere and let me download it from their.
> 
> thanks for your cooperation and looking forward for your kind response.

OK. Give me a couple of days and I'll get that sorted for you.

Mark




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Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-01 Thread Mark Thomas
Iqbal, Aftab wrote:
> Dear Mark,
> 
> thanks for your response and cooperation. For the evaluation of our research 
> work, we would like to run experiments on the last 12 months activity on 
> Tomcat project.
> 
> I would like to have the tomcat-dev archives of last 12 months (Aug2008 - Aug 
> 2009). It would be even nicer if i can have 1 compressed file for one month 
> instead of 1 compressed file for all 12 months, if it is possible.
> 
> regarding the bugzilla database, it is OK to get the whole dump. It would be 
> great if you upload it somewhere and let me download it from their.
> 
> thanks for your cooperation and looking forward for your kind response.

OK. Give me a couple of days and I'll get that sorted for you.

Mark




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RE: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-09-01 Thread Iqbal, Aftab

Dear Mark,

thanks for your response and cooperation. For the evaluation of our research 
work, we would like to run experiments on the last 12 months activity on Tomcat 
project.

I would like to have the tomcat-dev archives of last 12 months (Aug2008 - Aug 
2009). It would be even nicer if i can have 1 compressed file for one month 
instead of 1 compressed file for all 12 months, if it is possible.

regarding the bugzilla database, it is OK to get the whole dump. It would be 
great if you upload it somewhere and let me download it from their.

thanks for your cooperation and looking forward for your kind response.
regards
Aftab Iqbal

-Original Message-
From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
Sent: Mon 8/31/2009 8:50 PM
To: Tomcat Users List
Subject: Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research 
evaluation
 
Iqbal, Aftab wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am a PhD student at DERI (http://www.deri.ie), Galway, Ireland. We are 
> working here on a research to address some issues in
> software development processes and how can make software development and 
> specially its management efficient[1]. For the
> evaluation of our research, we are looking for data from mailing list 
> archives, bug trackers, source code, subversion logs of an open source, live 
> long project such as Apache Tomcat.
> 
> Although, we have Web access to the subversion repository of Apache Tomcat 
> but we require dumps of the bug tracker of Apache Tomcat development and 
> mailing list archives to do our evaluation.
> 
> Your help will be highly appreciated and we will be very happy to share the 
> results of our evaluation with you.
> 
> If this mailing list is not intended for this email then please guide me to 
> whom i can contact for it.

The Apache Infrastructure Team usually handles requests like this but
since I am also a member of that team as well as a Tomcat committer I
should be able to get this for you.

Could you provide a time frame for the data you are interested in? To
give you an idea of the volumes involved, in compressed form the
complete dev archive is 121MB, the users archive 233MB and the announce
archive 15KB.

For the bugs it will be easier to give you a complete dump of the
Bugzilla database. That was about 300MB (compressed) the last time I
took a copy.

The easiest thing for me to do is to put this somewhere under
http://people.apache.org/~markt and let you download it.

Mark




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Re: maling list archives and bug tracker dumps for academic research evaluation

2009-08-31 Thread Mark Thomas
Iqbal, Aftab wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am a PhD student at DERI (http://www.deri.ie), Galway, Ireland. We are 
> working here on a research to address some issues in
> software development processes and how can make software development and 
> specially its management efficient[1]. For the
> evaluation of our research, we are looking for data from mailing list 
> archives, bug trackers, source code, subversion logs of an open source, live 
> long project such as Apache Tomcat.
> 
> Although, we have Web access to the subversion repository of Apache Tomcat 
> but we require dumps of the bug tracker of Apache Tomcat development and 
> mailing list archives to do our evaluation.
> 
> Your help will be highly appreciated and we will be very happy to share the 
> results of our evaluation with you.
> 
> If this mailing list is not intended for this email then please guide me to 
> whom i can contact for it.

The Apache Infrastructure Team usually handles requests like this but
since I am also a member of that team as well as a Tomcat committer I
should be able to get this for you.

Could you provide a time frame for the data you are interested in? To
give you an idea of the volumes involved, in compressed form the
complete dev archive is 121MB, the users archive 233MB and the announce
archive 15KB.

For the bugs it will be easier to give you a complete dump of the
Bugzilla database. That was about 300MB (compressed) the last time I
took a copy.

The easiest thing for me to do is to put this somewhere under
http://people.apache.org/~markt and let you download it.

Mark




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