Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread jcgarciam
Hi, i did a quick walk thru the tutorial and something i think is missing and could help is to explain the concepts of Model and the difference between Static Model and Dynamic Model. I know it may complicate things for students and new comers to wicket programming but i think it worth, (using

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread Martin Makundi
Hi! Also use of compoundpropertymodel is confusing and misleading in a professional sense. In my opinnion it adds too much dependencies and it is not so transparent. Instead you should promote usage of bindgens, for example.

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread James Carman
I would not promote this in any introductory material. Sometimes you have to walk before you can run. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote: Hi! Also use of compoundpropertymodel is confusing and misleading in a professional sense. In my

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread H. Turgut Uyar
On 08/05/2010 05:13 PM, jcgarciam wrote: Hi, i did a quick walk thru the tutorial and something i think is missing and could help is to explain the concepts of Model and the difference between Static Model and Dynamic Model. I know it may complicate things for students and new comers to

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread Steve Coughlan
I agree the 'model' is a very powerful concept that needs to be explained properly... However drawing on my own early experiences with with java frameworks I can say that the reasoning for why model's are valuable is difficult to understand until the principals of request lifecycle have been

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread H. Turgut Uyar
On 08/05/2010 05:41 PM, James Carman wrote: I would not promote this in any introductory material. Sometimes you have to walk before you can run. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Martin Makundi martin.maku...@koodaripalvelut.com wrote: Hi! Also use of compoundpropertymodel is

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread James Carman
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:54 AM, H. Turgut Uyar u...@itu.edu.tr wrote: It seems to me that I have to explain a lot of complicated things to explain this to the students. They are 3rd year students who have taken only one OO course, and that's in C++. Thank you both for your concern and help

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread Nivedan Nadaraj
As a beginer myself...I feel the language like java plays a lot. Learning the generics would be one aspect and a must. Next to understand a simple request response usecase. Usage of each, if not all controls. How to use them and get it working as is. How would i be able to generalise usage of

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread H. Turgut Uyar
On 08/05/2010 06:18 PM, Nivedan Nadaraj wrote: As a beginer myself...I feel the language like java plays a lot. Learning the generics would be one aspect and a must. Next to understand a simple request response usecase. Usage of each, if not all controls. How to use them and get it working

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread Thomas Kappler
On 08/05/10 17:36, H. Turgut Uyar wrote: Since it's a database course I'm also planning to show examples of using other backends like Berkeley DB, db4o, and Netmind Persistence. It would be very interesting if you make some of the documentation and code for this public. There are not many

Re: A beginner's tutorial

2010-08-05 Thread H. Turgut Uyar
On 08/05/2010 06:52 PM, Thomas Kappler wrote: On 08/05/10 17:36, H. Turgut Uyar wrote: Since it's a database course I'm also planning to show examples of using other backends like Berkeley DB, db4o, and Netmind Persistence. It would be very interesting if you make some of the documentation