Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-17 Thread Alex Jacoby
Right after I got onto my bike to ride home I realized the same thing  
you did: it sounds like there's no need for the request cycle -- just  
look for the token upon session creation (and maybe again if there's a  
subsequent request for a not-yet-validated session).


But then there's the logout issue...  If you do need to worry about  
the user logging out in the other app too, it might be simplest to  
just use a cookie to represent the fact that the user's logged in, and  
check it (in the requestCycle) on each request.  Assuming your two  
apps are in the same domain, it works.  There's some complication in  
trying to make the cookie secure enough to avoid forgery, but it's  
doable.


You mentioned the possibility of just invalidating the wicket session  
from the other app -- if you can do that, go for it -- it sounds  
simpler.  In my case the other apps aren't java based, so that wasn't  
an attractive option.


Good luck,
Alex


That is what I meant, but I wasn't sure if the token you were
referring to was in a cookie or in the URL.  Since it's in the URL,  
it

does complicate stuff.

Here's my proposal: use the custom request cycle to grab the initial
token and store that auth info in the request cycle.  Then when you
create a new wicket session, check if the request cycle has a valid
auth token -- if so, you validate the session, save the auth token
there if necessary, and never worry about the request cycle (or URL
token) again.

Do i need to retain this in the RequestCycle at the first place ? I  
mean i

can just fetch the token from the request object itself..in my
CustomSession constructor as follows :

 public MyCustomSession(Request request)
 {
 super(request);
 String authToken = request.getParameter(authToken);
 if (authenticate(authToken) == success)
 {
   setAuthToken(authToken);
 }
 }

I am not sure as to when exactly is the Session is created, but  
given it
does before the request processing starts, in that case it is fair  
enough
to have this logic in the Session constructor instead of  
onBeginRequest(),

what do you think ?

You don't need to worry about people logging out from outside your
app, right?

Well we do, havent thought about it much, but the way i see it is  
to have
invoke the InvalidateSessionPage (from this other interface/app),  
in which

1) i invalid the wicket session
2) Have javascript to delete the cookie (jSessionId) from the  
browser,

though i feel this wouldn't really be necessory if the first step is
performed..What do you think ?

What do you think? better approach, where the external app isnt  
tightly
coupled with my app (where it needs to invoke the  
InvalidateSessionPage)..


Alex



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Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-17 Thread mfs

Do i need to retain this in the RequestCycle at the first place ? I mean i
can just fetch the token from the request object itself..in my CustomSession
constructor as follows :

  public MyCustomSession(Request request)
  {
  super(request);
  String authToken = request.getParameter(authToken);
  if (authenticate(authToken) == success)
  {
setAuthToken(authToken);
  }
  }

I am not sure as to when exactly is the Session is created, but given it
does before the request processing starts, in that case it is fair enough to
have this logic in the Session constructor instead of onBeginRequest(), what
do you think ?

You don't need to worry about people logging out from outside your  
app, right?

Well we do, havent thought about it much, but the way i see it is to have
invoke the InvalidateSessionPage (from this other interface/app), in which
1) i invalid the wicket session
2) Have javascript to delete the cookie (jSessionId) from the browser,
though i feel this wouldn't really be necessory if the first step is
performed..What do you think ?

What do you think? better approach, where the external app isnt tightly
coupled with my app (where it needs to invoke the InvalidateSessionPage)..

Alex




Alex Jacoby-2 wrote:
 
 Farhan, I figure we should take this back on-list.  Messages in  
 chronological order, with my last response at the bottom.
 
On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex,
   
Wasn't sure how frequent are u in the forum, so thought to mail you
   directly the reply...As below..
   
Subclassing RequestCycle would give me control on begin/end of the
   request, i wouldnt still have access to the Wicket Session (as the  
 Wicket
   Session isnt created at that time)
   
A plain servlet filter also gives me control in the beginning of  
 the
   request (if not at the end), except for the fact that i have am  
 playing with
   HttpRequest,HttpResponse, where as wicket RequestCycle gives me an
   abstracted view of these classes, other than that i am just  
 wondering what
   is the real benefit of extending WebRequestCycle..I can still do  
 all the
   authentication stuff (check for authtoken/cookie etc) in a normal  
 filter
   too..isnt it?..unless am missing some benefits which extending  
 RequestCycle
   would provide
   
Farhan.
 
 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Alex Jacoby [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
  Farhan,
 
   Good call emailing me - I only check the forum when I get to work  
 in the
  morning.
 
   Why use the (wicket) session for auth info at all?  You can use a  
 custom
  request cycle just like you use a custom session.  That way the  
 fact that
  the session doesn't exist at request time is irrelevant.
 
   Then in your pages you can use RequestCycle.get() instead of  
 Session.get()
  to extract auth info.
 
   My custom AuthenticatedWebSession's auth methods all delegate to  
 my custom
  request cycle methods.
 
   Does that make sense?
 
   I'm not sure if this will help in your case, but it sounds like  
 it might.
 
   Alex
 
 On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Farhan Sarwar wrote:
 I kind of get you but to be sure, so u suggesting to store the auth  
 data within the request cycle itself and access it using  
 ((MyCustomRequestCycle)RequestCycle.get()).getAuthToken (offcourse  
 once i have set the same attributes onBeginRequest) as below..

 public class MyCustomRequestCycle extends WebRequestCycle
 {
  String authToken;
  String cookieName;

  public String getAuthToken()
  {
return authToken;
  }

  public void setAuthToken(String authToken)
  {
this.authToken = authToken;
  }

  public String getCookieName()
  {
return cookieName;
  }

  public void setCookieName(String cookieName)
  {
this.cookieName = cookieName;
  }

  public VCertRetailRequestCycle(WebApplication application, Request  
 request,
  Response response)
  {
super(application, (WebRequest) request, response);
  }

  protected void onBeginRequest()
  {
// getToken from the url passed as a query string
setAuthToken(request.getParameter(authToken));
  }

  protected void onEndRequest()
  {
authToken = null;
cookieName = null;
  }
 }

 Please comment if i am correctly understanding the approach u are  
 suggesting

 Now if that is the correct understanding, its just helping me  
 maintain the values submitted with each request, available to all  
 the pages in that particular request cycle...but i would want to  
 maintain that information across the whole session, so that i dont  
 have to append the authToken (passed to me in the url at the first  
 place by the authentication framework) in every url i have in my  
 wicket app (in the form links, forms etcs)...

 I understand that WebRequestCycle.onBeginRequest is acting like a  
 filter for me in a wicket way where before i allow the  request  
 cycle to further continue i can redirect the un-authentication users  
 onBeginRequest to LoginPage or 

Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-16 Thread Alex Jacoby
Would subclassing your wicket RequestCycle work?  That's where I'm  
doing similar authentication stuff right now and it seems to be  
working well.  It seems like Session is harder to integrate with  
external apps since actions can happen that it's unaware of.  If you  
use RequestCycle you can check cookies, tokens, etc, on each request,  
which is really where you want to do it since you have no idea if the  
user did something (like logout) in the external app.


Alex

On Apr 15, 2008, at 1:22 PM, mfs wrote:


Yeah i need to..i.e. the very authentication token so that for  
subsequent

request i cant avoid the authentication call..

Well i can opt for HttpSession but then i will be using the same  
wherever in
my pages i need it (there are a couple of scenarios where i need to  
pass the

info back), and hence compromising the abstraction wicket provides..


Johan Compagner wrote:


if there is no session
do you already want to store something?

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:10 AM, mfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Guys,

Please comment..

I have a non-wicket AuthenticationFilter which is intercepting all
request
to my wicket-app and checking if the request is coming in from a  
valid

user.
Basically in the url am passed over an authenticationToken (by  
another

application where the user has signed in already). Now in my
AuthenticationFilter i check if that is a valid token and if yes i  
want

to
set some attribute (isAuthenticated etc) in wicket-session, .

The problem is that the wicket session has yet not been created  
(because
this is the first request to the wicket app, intercepted by the  
filter),

and
hence i get this error you can only locate or create sessions in  
the

context of a request cycle, when i try do a Session.get().

I am already using WicketSessionFilter which would expose my wicket
session
to my non-wicket filter. The problem is just for the first  
request, where

a
wicket session yet doesnt exist.

I am thinking of using HttpSession directly in my filter and store  
all

the
session data there, but before i do so, i thought to check if  
anyone has

a
better work around, ideally i would want to avoid using it.

Thanks in advance

Farhan
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Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-16 Thread mfs

Subclassing RequestCycle would give me control on begin/end of the request, i
wouldnt still have access to the Wicket Session...right..i am not sure if a
wicket session is initiated at that time?

If not, a plain servlet filter also gives me control in the beginning of the
request, except for the fact that i have am playing with
HttpRequest,response, where as wicket requestcycle gives me an abstracted
view of these classes, other than i am just wondering as to what i would be
able to achieve...

I can still do all the authentication stuff (check for authtoken/cookie) in
a normal filter too..isnt it?..unless am missing something..

Farhan.


Alex Jacoby-2 wrote:
 
 Would subclassing your wicket RequestCycle work?  That's where I'm  
 doing similar authentication stuff right now and it seems to be  
 working well.  It seems like Session is harder to integrate with  
 external apps since actions can happen that it's unaware of.  If you  
 use RequestCycle you can check cookies, tokens, etc, on each request,  
 which is really where you want to do it since you have no idea if the  
 user did something (like logout) in the external app.
 
 Alex
 
 On Apr 15, 2008, at 1:22 PM, mfs wrote:

 Yeah i need to..i.e. the very authentication token so that for  
 subsequent
 request i cant avoid the authentication call..

 Well i can opt for HttpSession but then i will be using the same  
 wherever in
 my pages i need it (there are a couple of scenarios where i need to  
 pass the
 info back), and hence compromising the abstraction wicket provides..


 Johan Compagner wrote:

 if there is no session
 do you already want to store something?

 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:10 AM, mfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Guys,

 Please comment..

 I have a non-wicket AuthenticationFilter which is intercepting all
 request
 to my wicket-app and checking if the request is coming in from a  
 valid
 user.
 Basically in the url am passed over an authenticationToken (by  
 another
 application where the user has signed in already). Now in my
 AuthenticationFilter i check if that is a valid token and if yes i  
 want
 to
 set some attribute (isAuthenticated etc) in wicket-session, .

 The problem is that the wicket session has yet not been created  
 (because
 this is the first request to the wicket app, intercepted by the  
 filter),
 and
 hence i get this error you can only locate or create sessions in  
 the
 context of a request cycle, when i try do a Session.get().

 I am already using WicketSessionFilter which would expose my wicket
 session
 to my non-wicket filter. The problem is just for the first  
 request, where
 a
 wicket session yet doesnt exist.

 I am thinking of using HttpSession directly in my filter and store  
 all
 the
 session data there, but before i do so, i thought to check if  
 anyone has
 a
 better work around, ideally i would want to avoid using it.

 Thanks in advance

 Farhan
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Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-16 Thread Alex Jacoby
Farhan, I figure we should take this back on-list.  Messages in  
chronological order, with my last response at the bottom.


  On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Alex,
 
  Wasn't sure how frequent are u in the forum, so thought to mail you
 directly the reply...As below..
 
  Subclassing RequestCycle would give me control on begin/end of the
 request, i wouldnt still have access to the Wicket Session (as the  
Wicket

 Session isnt created at that time)
 
  A plain servlet filter also gives me control in the beginning of  
the
 request (if not at the end), except for the fact that i have am  
playing with

 HttpRequest,HttpResponse, where as wicket RequestCycle gives me an
 abstracted view of these classes, other than that i am just  
wondering what
 is the real benefit of extending WebRequestCycle..I can still do  
all the
 authentication stuff (check for authtoken/cookie etc) in a normal  
filter
 too..isnt it?..unless am missing some benefits which extending  
RequestCycle

 would provide
 
  Farhan.

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Alex Jacoby [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:

 Farhan,

  Good call emailing me - I only check the forum when I get to work  
in the

 morning.

  Why use the (wicket) session for auth info at all?  You can use a  
custom
 request cycle just like you use a custom session.  That way the  
fact that

 the session doesn't exist at request time is irrelevant.

  Then in your pages you can use RequestCycle.get() instead of  
Session.get()

 to extract auth info.

  My custom AuthenticatedWebSession's auth methods all delegate to  
my custom

 request cycle methods.

  Does that make sense?

  I'm not sure if this will help in your case, but it sounds like  
it might.


  Alex


On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Farhan Sarwar wrote:
I kind of get you but to be sure, so u suggesting to store the auth  
data within the request cycle itself and access it using  
((MyCustomRequestCycle)RequestCycle.get()).getAuthToken (offcourse  
once i have set the same attributes onBeginRequest) as below..


public class MyCustomRequestCycle extends WebRequestCycle
{
 String authToken;
 String cookieName;

 public String getAuthToken()
 {
   return authToken;
 }

 public void setAuthToken(String authToken)
 {
   this.authToken = authToken;
 }

 public String getCookieName()
 {
   return cookieName;
 }

 public void setCookieName(String cookieName)
 {
   this.cookieName = cookieName;
 }

 public VCertRetailRequestCycle(WebApplication application, Request  
request,

 Response response)
 {
   super(application, (WebRequest) request, response);
 }

 protected void onBeginRequest()
 {
   // getToken from the url passed as a query string
   setAuthToken(request.getParameter(authToken));
 }

 protected void onEndRequest()
 {
   authToken = null;
   cookieName = null;
 }
}

Please comment if i am correctly understanding the approach u are  
suggesting


Now if that is the correct understanding, its just helping me  
maintain the values submitted with each request, available to all  
the pages in that particular request cycle...but i would want to  
maintain that information across the whole session, so that i dont  
have to append the authToken (passed to me in the url at the first  
place by the authentication framework) in every url i have in my  
wicket app (in the form links, forms etcs)...


I understand that WebRequestCycle.onBeginRequest is acting like a  
filter for me in a wicket way where before i allow the  request  
cycle to further continue i can redirect the un-authentication users  
onBeginRequest to LoginPage or something...


Thanks in advance and Regards,

Farhan.


That is what I meant, but I wasn't sure if the token you were  
referring to was in a cookie or in the URL.  Since it's in the URL, it  
does complicate stuff.


Here's my proposal: use the custom request cycle to grab the initial  
token and store that auth info in the request cycle.  Then when you  
create a new wicket session, check if the request cycle has a valid  
auth token -- if so, you validate the session, save the auth token  
there if necessary, and never worry about the request cycle (or URL  
token) again.


You don't need to worry about people logging out from outside your  
app, right?


Alex

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Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-16 Thread mfs



Alex Jacoby-2 wrote:
 
 Farhan, I figure we should take this back on-list.  Messages in  
 chronological order, with my last response at the bottom.
 
On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alex,
   
Wasn't sure how frequent are u in the forum, so thought to mail you
   directly the reply...As below..
   
Subclassing RequestCycle would give me control on begin/end of the
   request, i wouldnt still have access to the Wicket Session (as the  
 Wicket
   Session isnt created at that time)
   
A plain servlet filter also gives me control in the beginning of  
 the
   request (if not at the end), except for the fact that i have am  
 playing with
   HttpRequest,HttpResponse, where as wicket RequestCycle gives me an
   abstracted view of these classes, other than that i am just  
 wondering what
   is the real benefit of extending WebRequestCycle..I can still do  
 all the
   authentication stuff (check for authtoken/cookie etc) in a normal  
 filter
   too..isnt it?..unless am missing some benefits which extending  
 RequestCycle
   would provide
   
Farhan.
 
 On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Alex Jacoby [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 wrote:
  Farhan,
 
   Good call emailing me - I only check the forum when I get to work  
 in the
  morning.
 
   Why use the (wicket) session for auth info at all?  You can use a  
 custom
  request cycle just like you use a custom session.  That way the  
 fact that
  the session doesn't exist at request time is irrelevant.
 
   Then in your pages you can use RequestCycle.get() instead of  
 Session.get()
  to extract auth info.
 
   My custom AuthenticatedWebSession's auth methods all delegate to  
 my custom
  request cycle methods.
 
   Does that make sense?
 
   I'm not sure if this will help in your case, but it sounds like  
 it might.
 
   Alex
 
 On Apr 16, 2008, at 5:42 PM, Farhan Sarwar wrote:
 I kind of get you but to be sure, so u suggesting to store the auth  
 data within the request cycle itself and access it using  
 ((MyCustomRequestCycle)RequestCycle.get()).getAuthToken (offcourse  
 once i have set the same attributes onBeginRequest) as below..

 public class MyCustomRequestCycle extends WebRequestCycle
 {
  String authToken;
  String cookieName;

  public String getAuthToken()
  {
return authToken;
  }

  public void setAuthToken(String authToken)
  {
this.authToken = authToken;
  }

  public String getCookieName()
  {
return cookieName;
  }

  public void setCookieName(String cookieName)
  {
this.cookieName = cookieName;
  }

  public VCertRetailRequestCycle(WebApplication application, Request  
 request,
  Response response)
  {
super(application, (WebRequest) request, response);
  }

  protected void onBeginRequest()
  {
// getToken from the url passed as a query string
setAuthToken(request.getParameter(authToken));
  }

  protected void onEndRequest()
  {
authToken = null;
cookieName = null;
  }
 }

 Please comment if i am correctly understanding the approach u are  
 suggesting

 Now if that is the correct understanding, its just helping me  
 maintain the values submitted with each request, available to all  
 the pages in that particular request cycle...but i would want to  
 maintain that information across the whole session, so that i dont  
 have to append the authToken (passed to me in the url at the first  
 place by the authentication framework) in every url i have in my  
 wicket app (in the form links, forms etcs)...

 I understand that WebRequestCycle.onBeginRequest is acting like a  
 filter for me in a wicket way where before i allow the  request  
 cycle to further continue i can redirect the un-authentication users  
 onBeginRequest to LoginPage or something...

 Thanks in advance and Regards,

 Farhan.
 
 That is what I meant, but I wasn't sure if the token you were  
 referring to was in a cookie or in the URL.  Since it's in the URL, it  
 does complicate stuff.
 
 Here's my proposal: use the custom request cycle to grab the initial  
 token and store that auth info in the request cycle.  Then when you  
 create a new wicket session, check if the request cycle has a valid  
 auth token -- if so, you validate the session, save the auth token  
 there if necessary, and never worry about the request cycle (or URL  
 token) again.
 
 Do i need to retain this in the RequestCycle at the first place ? I mean i
 can just fetch the token from the request object itself..in my
 CustomSession constructor as follows :
 
   public MyCustomSession(Request request)
   {
   super(request);
   String authToken = request.getParameter(authToken);
   if (authenticate(authToken) == success)
   {
 setAuthToken(authToken);
   }
   }
 
 I am not sure as to when exactly is the Session is created, but given it
 does before the request processing starts, in that case it is fair enough
 to have this logic in the Session constructor instead of onBeginRequest(),

Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-15 Thread Johan Compagner
if there is no session
do you already want to store something?

On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:10 AM, mfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Guys,

 Please comment..

 I have a non-wicket AuthenticationFilter which is intercepting all request
 to my wicket-app and checking if the request is coming in from a valid
 user.
 Basically in the url am passed over an authenticationToken (by another
 application where the user has signed in already). Now in my
 AuthenticationFilter i check if that is a valid token and if yes i want to
 set some attribute (isAuthenticated etc) in wicket-session, .

 The problem is that the wicket session has yet not been created (because
 this is the first request to the wicket app, intercepted by the filter),
 and
 hence i get this error you can only locate or create sessions in the
 context of a request cycle, when i try do a Session.get().

 I am already using WicketSessionFilter which would expose my wicket
 session
 to my non-wicket filter. The problem is just for the first request, where
 a
 wicket session yet doesnt exist.

 I am thinking of using HttpSession directly in my filter and store all the
 session data there, but before i do so, i thought to check if anyone has a
 better work around, ideally i would want to avoid using it.

 Thanks in advance

 Farhan
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Re: Can only locate or create session in the context of a request cycle.

2008-04-15 Thread mfs

Yeah i need to..i.e. the very authentication token so that for subsequent
request i cant avoid the authentication call..

Well i can opt for HttpSession but then i will be using the same wherever in
my pages i need it (there are a couple of scenarios where i need to pass the
info back), and hence compromising the abstraction wicket provides..


Johan Compagner wrote:
 
 if there is no session
 do you already want to store something?
 
 On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:10 AM, mfs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

 Guys,

 Please comment..

 I have a non-wicket AuthenticationFilter which is intercepting all
 request
 to my wicket-app and checking if the request is coming in from a valid
 user.
 Basically in the url am passed over an authenticationToken (by another
 application where the user has signed in already). Now in my
 AuthenticationFilter i check if that is a valid token and if yes i want
 to
 set some attribute (isAuthenticated etc) in wicket-session, .

 The problem is that the wicket session has yet not been created (because
 this is the first request to the wicket app, intercepted by the filter),
 and
 hence i get this error you can only locate or create sessions in the
 context of a request cycle, when i try do a Session.get().

 I am already using WicketSessionFilter which would expose my wicket
 session
 to my non-wicket filter. The problem is just for the first request, where
 a
 wicket session yet doesnt exist.

 I am thinking of using HttpSession directly in my filter and store all
 the
 session data there, but before i do so, i thought to check if anyone has
 a
 better work around, ideally i would want to avoid using it.

 Thanks in advance

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