Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius cheers Paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there. You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO. Thanks -Vincent ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 07/01/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... Wiki pages are stored in the database not on the file system and I suppose you connected the clean 3.1 to the database used by your previous 2.6. How can I find out where it came from? You can check its history and if the creation date is before the upgrade of after. Hope this helps, Marius ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there. You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO. Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? How can I find other pages are lingering? And, more importantly, next time I upgrade xwiki, what is the correct procedure to ensure that: 1) I do not have to reconfigure all my appearance configuration 2) I do not have to reconfigure my rights 3) I do not leave crufty old pages around ? I do not understand how everyone else upgrades their xwiki... its taken me 2 days and I'm still discovering things that shouldn't be there (like this Import page) ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 1 July 2011 15:03, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 07/01/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... Wiki pages are stored in the database not on the file system and I suppose you connected the clean 3.1 to the database used by your previous 2.6. How can I find out where it came from? You can check its history and if the creation date is before the upgrade of after. Hope this helps, Marius In /xwiki/SpaceIndex, I have pages created in 2008 ! I only started using xwiki last year! AdminProgrammingSheet -- 2008 AdminGeneralSheet -- 2009 CopyDocument -- 2009 XWikiUserTemplate -- 2010 SearchSuggestSourceClass -- 2010 and a whole bunch owned by superuser, including XWikiRights TagClass and about 20 more pages owned by either superuser or Administrator. should I be deleting these? ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there. You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO. Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment. We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script. How can I find other pages are lingering? You could compare the two XARs using either http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code (http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools). Note that at some point we wanted to list this in the Release Notes but we've not been doing it diligently. I'd like us to do that better in the future. And, more importantly, next time I upgrade xwiki, what is the correct procedure to ensure that: 1) I do not have to reconfigure all my appearance configuration You should not import XWikiPreferences, WebPreferences, etc. These are all indicated in the upgrade instructions. http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HUpgradinganXWikiInstallation 2) I do not have to reconfigure my rights Same 3) I do not leave crufty old pages around See above. Note that pages that are left won't impact the execution of your wiki. If they do they'd be mentioned in the release notes. ? I do not understand how everyone else upgrades their xwiki... its taken me 2 days and I'm still discovering things that shouldn't be there (like this Import page) Upgrading is still not an easy process. We're tacking this with the Extension Manager, see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ExtensionManager Thanks -Vincent ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 15:03, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.com wrote: On 07/01/2011 09:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... Wiki pages are stored in the database not on the file system and I suppose you connected the clean 3.1 to the database used by your previous 2.6. How can I find out where it came from? You can check its history and if the creation date is before the upgrade of after. Hope this helps, Marius In /xwiki/SpaceIndex, I have pages created in 2008 ! I only started using xwiki last year! AdminProgrammingSheet -- 2008 AdminGeneralSheet -- 2009 CopyDocument -- 2009 XWikiUserTemplate -- 2010 SearchSuggestSourceClass -- 2010 and a whole bunch owned by superuser, including XWikiRights TagClass and about 20 more pages owned by either superuser or Administrator. should I be deleting these? No. The date simply indicates when the page was created. Thanks -Vincent ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 1 July 2011 15:28, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there. You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO. Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment. We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script. I am struggling with a similar design issue in one of my projects. I am currently thinking along the lines that: * If there are a set of pages, keep them bundled together - don't unwrap them. The moment you unwrap them, and someone modifies a page, then you can't upgrade the package without stomping on the changes. * Allow pages to be extracted if the user really wants to hack. * Don't store configuration within pages that are part of an upgrade. Instead, separate structure and data, and put the data in a configuration file (or a configuration page that is NOT EVER overwritten during an upgrade).Then, if there is an upgrade, add a mechanism to upgrade the configuration file IF REQUIRED. How can I find other pages are lingering? You could compare the two XARs using either http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code (http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools). urgh Note that at some point we wanted to list this in the Release Notes but we've not been doing it diligently. I'd like us to do that better in the future. And, more importantly, next time I upgrade xwiki, what is the correct procedure to ensure that: 1) I do not have to reconfigure all my appearance configuration You should not import XWikiPreferences, WebPreferences, etc. These are all indicated in the upgrade instructions. http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation#HUpgradinganXWikiInstallation No, it says you should be careful. From my POV, that means - take a screenshot and then re-add all your configuration later on. Because, I'm sitting here thinking ... what if something in XWikiPreferences has changed significantly (eg the layout looks different from 2.6), and if I don't overwrite then something won't work. 2) I do not have to reconfigure my rights Same 3) I do not leave crufty old pages around See above. Note that pages that are left won't impact the execution of your wiki. If they do they'd be mentioned in the release notes. ? I do not understand how everyone else upgrades their xwiki... its taken me 2 days and I'm still discovering things that shouldn't be there (like this Import page) Upgrading is still not an easy process. We're tacking this with the Extension Manager, see http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/ExtensionManager The gallery2 website had a great upgrade system, with checks and verifications and migrations that you could actually see the progress of. With xwiki, I am terrified of upgrading the system again... there is no verification, no audit, no visible migration... I have no idea what I'm missing and what pages are there that should not be. For example, I turned
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 1 July 2011 15:47, Paul Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 July 2011 15:28, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there. You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO. Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment. We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script. I am struggling with a similar design issue in one of my projects. I am currently thinking along the lines that: * If there are a set of pages, keep them bundled together - don't unwrap them. The moment you unwrap them, and someone modifies a page, then you can't upgrade the package without stomping on the changes. * Allow pages to be extracted if the user really wants to hack. * Don't store configuration within pages that are part of an upgrade. Instead, separate structure and data, and put the data in a configuration file (or a configuration page that is NOT EVER overwritten during an upgrade). Then, if there is an upgrade, add a mechanism to upgrade the configuration file IF REQUIRED. How can I find other pages are lingering? You could compare the two XARs using either http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code (http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools). urgh What I did was Imported and opened the latest 3.1.xar to see the contents. What I found interesting is that there are a lot of pages (eg Blog.BlogParameters) that are not listed in the Blog-Space-Index Are these pages? How does one see the hidden pages? thanks Paul ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Import confusion
On 1 July 2011 15:55, Paul Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 July 2011 15:47, Paul Harris harris...@gmail.com wrote: On 1 July 2011 15:28, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:59, Vincent Massol vinc...@massol.net wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Paul Harris wrote: On 1 July 2011 14:36, Marius Dumitru Florea mariusdumitru.flo...@xwiki.comwrote: Hi Paul, On 07/01/2011 05:38 AM, Paul Harris wrote: Hi again, I wanted to delete all the packages I had uploaded for Import. If I go through the XWikiPreferences -- Import, I can't see any packages... the link is: http://HOST/xwiki/import/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globaladminsection=Import However, if I go to this page (which I can't remember how I got there): http://host/xwiki/import/XWiki/Import?editor=globaladminsection=Import I can see a dozen packages that I uploaded. Whats the difference between these two imports, and how do I get to the second one without knowing the link beforehand? (I think I found it via the Document Index and scanning hundreds of docs in the XWiki space) XWiki.Import page is not part of the standard XAR. I don't have it on a fresh XE 3.1. Moreover, the XARs I import are attached to XWiki.XWikiPreferences page so for me the Import administration section is synchronized with http://host/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?viewer=attachments XWiki.Import page is either from your previous XE 2.6 (which you said you upgraded to 3.1) or was created by an application (extension) that you have installed on top of 3.1. Hope this helps, Marius I started with a blank web folder and extracted 3.1... How can I find out where it came from? The pages are not saved on the file system but in the database. So if you haven't modified your DB when you upgraded you still have the same data there. You could just delete the XWiki.Import page IMO. Shouldn't this have been handled by the Migration thing? Ideally yes but that's not implemented at the moment. We're introducing the notion of extension manager to manager extensions and as part of it there'll be a notion of an application (ie a set of pages) and when an app is installed or upgraded it'll have the ability to run some script. I am struggling with a similar design issue in one of my projects. I am currently thinking along the lines that: * If there are a set of pages, keep them bundled together - don't unwrap them. The moment you unwrap them, and someone modifies a page, then you can't upgrade the package without stomping on the changes. * Allow pages to be extracted if the user really wants to hack. * Don't store configuration within pages that are part of an upgrade. Instead, separate structure and data, and put the data in a configuration file (or a configuration page that is NOT EVER overwritten during an upgrade). Then, if there is an upgrade, add a mechanism to upgrade the configuration file IF REQUIRED. How can I find other pages are lingering? You could compare the two XARs using either http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/XAR+Diff+Application or the Admin Tools which reuse this XAR Diff app code (http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/AdminTools). urgh What I did was Imported and opened the latest 3.1.xar to see the contents. What I found interesting is that there are a lot of pages (eg Blog.BlogParameters) that are not listed in the Blog-Space-Index Are these pages? How does one see the hidden pages? thanks Paul I checked those diff tools... one of them says only for developers!! you must modify your webhome page so I avoided that one. I tried the AdminTools one, but both the Diff tools don't work. The velocity-based one fails with a StringIndex = -1 and the groovy one just shows the code, it doesn't actually run. I tried to put the code into a page to make it go, but that didn't seem to work either. ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
