Re: [xwiki-users] Tag/baseline for wiki or space
On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:06 PM, Vincent Massol wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Crowd Covered wrote: > >> Thanks for hint Vincent, these options are indeed possible and I considered >> them (didn't know that svn integration is already available). But trick is >> to not break usability. So that you can just switch between "tagged" content >> and "trunk" without a need to overwrite "trunk" by imported XAR, or update >> to revision from svn, or have another server for deploying tags as this will >> definitely provoke conflicts. >> For simple user that's it: switch mode, navigate in tagged/baselined >> content. I guess it may not even require version control system like svn >> underneath if we have all history in database anyway. >> >> Is it in general possible to introduce such a feature that will for all >> read-only actions (view, export) provide only "tagged" content? If possible >> how much efforts may it need? >> Did someone else experience a need in such a feature for a groupware (which >> wiki belongs to as for me)? > > What I'd do is the following: > - install XEM (Enterprise Manager) > - when you're ready to set a tag/branch, copy the main wiki into a subwiki > (using Enterprise Manager it's easy) and give a meaningful name that includes > the tag or version in the name > - have a page on the main wiki to point to the various tags/versions of the > documentation. One last note. I've sent a proposal a few days ago to have global versioning in XE which would help solving this use case too but 1) it's not yet decided if we want it and 2) it's going to a bit of time before someone gets to implement it. See http://markmail.org/thread/hpirb77bzxhmocvo for more details. Thanks -Vincent > -Vincent > >> Regards, >> Andrey >> >> >> On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote: >>> Hi xwiki people, Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for >>> complete wiki or particular space? What I mean is possibility to use the power of navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision >>> in this mode would belong to this "tag" or just have modification date not later than specified. I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit wiki pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features ( http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010. Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements >>> management on a software project and it is vital to have baselines. Alternatively export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice >>> laconic document (exclude pages that are not relevant, make headers correct relevantly to hierarchy, etc.) >>> >>> I see 2 options: >>> >>> * Use the existing SVN integration: >>> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application >>> * Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a zip >>> file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at >>> any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag. >>> >>> Hope it helps, >>> -Vincent >>> Greetz, Andrey Stoliarov ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tag/baseline for wiki or space
On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Crowd Covered wrote: > Thanks for hint Vincent, these options are indeed possible and I considered > them (didn't know that svn integration is already available). But trick is > to not break usability. So that you can just switch between "tagged" content > and "trunk" without a need to overwrite "trunk" by imported XAR, or update > to revision from svn, or have another server for deploying tags as this will > definitely provoke conflicts. > For simple user that's it: switch mode, navigate in tagged/baselined > content. I guess it may not even require version control system like svn > underneath if we have all history in database anyway. > > Is it in general possible to introduce such a feature that will for all > read-only actions (view, export) provide only "tagged" content? If possible > how much efforts may it need? > Did someone else experience a need in such a feature for a groupware (which > wiki belongs to as for me)? What I'd do is the following: - install XEM (Enterprise Manager) - when you're ready to set a tag/branch, copy the main wiki into a subwiki (using Enterprise Manager it's easy) and give a meaningful name that includes the tag or version in the name - have a page on the main wiki to point to the various tags/versions of the documentation. -Vincent > Regards, > Andrey > > > On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote: >> >>> Hi xwiki people, >>> >>> Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for >> complete >>> wiki or particular space? What I mean is possibility to use the power of >>> navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision >> in >>> this mode would belong to this "tag" or just have modification date not >>> later than specified. >>> >>> I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit wiki >>> pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features ( >>> http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this >>> topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010. >>> >>> Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements >> management >>> on a software project and it is vital to have baselines. Alternatively >>> export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of >>> pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and >>> secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice >> laconic >>> document (exclude pages that are not relevant, make headers correct >>> relevantly to hierarchy, etc.) >> >> I see 2 options: >> >> * Use the existing SVN integration: >> http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application >> * Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a zip >> file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at >> any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag. >> >> Hope it helps, >> -Vincent >> >>> Greetz, >>> Andrey Stoliarov ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tag/baseline for wiki or space
Thanks for hint Vincent, these options are indeed possible and I considered them (didn't know that svn integration is already available). But trick is to not break usability. So that you can just switch between "tagged" content and "trunk" without a need to overwrite "trunk" by imported XAR, or update to revision from svn, or have another server for deploying tags as this will definitely provoke conflicts. For simple user that's it: switch mode, navigate in tagged/baselined content. I guess it may not even require version control system like svn underneath if we have all history in database anyway. Is it in general possible to introduce such a feature that will for all read-only actions (view, export) provide only "tagged" content? If possible how much efforts may it need? Did someone else experience a need in such a feature for a groupware (which wiki belongs to as for me)? Regards, Andrey On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote: > > > Hi xwiki people, > > > > Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for > complete > > wiki or particular space? What I mean is possibility to use the power of > > navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision > in > > this mode would belong to this "tag" or just have modification date not > > later than specified. > > > > I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit wiki > > pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features ( > > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this > > topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010. > > > > Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements > management > > on a software project and it is vital to have baselines. Alternatively > > export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of > > pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and > > secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice > laconic > > document (exclude pages that are not relevant, make headers correct > > relevantly to hierarchy, etc.) > > I see 2 options: > > * Use the existing SVN integration: > http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application > * Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a zip > file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at > any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag. > > Hope it helps, > -Vincent > > > Greetz, > > Andrey Stoliarov > ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] Tag/baseline for wiki or space
Hi Andrey, On Sep 14, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Crowd Covered wrote: > Hi xwiki people, > > Is there a possibility to have something like tags or baselines for complete > wiki or particular space? What I mean is possibility to use the power of > navigation between pages as usual with condition that all pages revision in > this mode would belong to this "tag" or just have modification date not > later than specified. > > I have noticed "SVN Integration (make it possible to store and edit wiki > pages in SVN)" in Survey on XWiki Features ( > http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/SurveyXWikiFeatures), but this > topic looks obsolete as last modification was done in January 2010. > > Background is that my team currently uses xwiki for requirements management > on a software project and it is vital to have baselines. Alternatively > export to PDF/RTF could be used, but firstly it refuses to handle some of > pages as is (we've created several classes with customized sheets), and > secondly it would require intensive tailoring of output to get nice laconic > document (exclude pages that are not relevant, make headers correct > relevantly to hierarchy, etc.) I see 2 options: * Use the existing SVN integration: http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/SVN+Application * Export the wiki as a XAR export (it''ll you one XAR file which is a zip file containing the full wiki which can be imported in a XWiki instance at any time to have a running tagged documentation) when you need to tag. Hope it helps, -Vincent > Greetz, > Andrey Stoliarov ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
