Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Marc Farnum Rendino
Josh - I think you've identified a problem (low activity) and a solution state (new members), however: I believe that would take more than a name change. And the more is the critical part, not the name change. :) I suggest that the name change should be a side issue which doesn't detract from

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Sam Hooker
- Marc Farnum Rendino mvg...@gmail.com wrote: I think you've identified a problem (low activity) and a solution state (new members), however: I believe that would take more than a name change. And the more is the critical part, not the name change. :) Agreed, to a large extent. As

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Tony Harris
--On Friday, September 17, 2010 07:45:16 AM -0400 Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: All that said, I can do something on federated identity management and web single-sign-on with Shibboleth[1], if there's interest. Definitely interest from me! We've talked all around that one here at the

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Mike Austin
Hi Tony - I've mentioned our willingness to talk about Shib to others in VSCs without any interest back from them. If Shib isn't appropriate for a VAGUE meeting, UVM would happily host anyone from the VSC system for a Shib design/review/install-fest. Just let me know if you want to do

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Marc Farnum Rendino
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Mike Austin m...@uvm.edu wrote: If Shib isn't appropriate for a VAGUE meeting, UVM would happily host anyone from the VSC system for a Shib design/review/install-fest. FWIW, I think's it's both interesting and appropriate. Perhaps to a subset of the the group,

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Marc Farnum Rendino
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: This is where I diverge from Marc, slightly. Language is powerful... I have to disagree that we diverge, Sam. :) Language is indeed powerful and so we should discuss the name change as well.

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Sam Hooker
- Original Message - On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: This is where I diverge from Marc, slightly. Language is powerful... I have to disagree that we diverge, Sam. :) I concede your disagreement with my proposed diverg...oh, hell; Let's just

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Kevin Thorley
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: - Original Message - On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: This is where I diverge from Marc, slightly. Language is powerful... I have to disagree that we diverge, Sam. :)

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Marc Farnum Rendino
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Sam Hooker s...@noiseplant.com wrote: I concede your disagreement with my proposed diverg...oh, hell; Let's just have a freakin' beer. I like the way you think. :)

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Aaron S. Hawley
On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Kevin Thorley elron8...@gmail.com wrote: As for the name, my wife refers to us as the Vermont Area Group of Unicorn Enthusiasts.  I think she'd be disappointed if we changed the acronym :) Awesome. Not to be confused with the yet-to-be-organized local Emacs

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Anthony Carrico
On 09/17/2010 11:28 AM, Kevin Thorley wrote: As for the name, my wife refers to us as the Vermont Area Group of Unicorn Enthusiasts. Now there's an idea. Can we make that official? -- Anthony Carrico

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Mike Raley
Not to be confused with the yet-to-be-organized local Emacs org-mode user's group. See project logo:  http://orgmode.org/ I have no such affiliation -- not that there's anything wrong with that. Hell yes there's something wrong with that! Emacs is evil. Seek the true light in vi.

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Tony Harris
Well, that's a very cool name and I could go with it, but might want us to do the occasional presentation on current populations of mythical creatures in Vermont, or related topics... ;-) --On Friday, September 17, 2010 1:14 PM -0400 Anthony Carrico acarr...@memebeam.org wrote: On

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Mike Raley
Friends! Resist the unicornification of Vermont and the Emacs agenda! We must not allow the proliferation of non-unix ways! One tool to do one thing well as the tool's creator decreed in the beginning. This swiss-army knife, many use-one tool system must end! Instead seek the simple

Re: the evolution of VAGUE (meeting Wed Sep 22)

2010-09-17 Thread Richard Lawrence
As for the name, my wife refers to us as the Vermont Area Group of Unicorn Enthusiasts.  I think she'd be disappointed if we changed the acronym :) Wouldn't that correspond to a *narrowing* of VAGUE's focus? http://unicorn.bogomips.org/ Richard

Sex and Penguin Marketing

2010-09-17 Thread Joe Golden
As renaming (rebranding?) is considered, let me point out vague has a generally negative connotation as does gimp. To geeks this is kind of cool, but often times the general public doesn't get it. I'm embarrassed when I mention I use the GIMP for photo editing to mainstream clients. The GIMP

Re: Sex and Penguin Marketing

2010-09-17 Thread Jacob Beauregard
VTux? On Fri, 2010-09-17 at 22:12 -0400, Joe Golden wrote: As renaming (rebranding?) is considered, let me point out vague has a generally negative connotation as does gimp. To geeks this is kind of cool, but often times the general public doesn't get it. I'm embarrassed when I mention I