Re: [Vala] Using aliases

2013-12-10 Thread Tal Liron
Sometimes it's absolutely necessary due to naming conflicts between imported libraries. Without this feature, Vala is broken in those instances. There was a patch that I assumed would be accepted (2.5 years ago!), but apparently was never merged:

Re: [Vala] Writing Bindings for Legacy C Libraries

2013-09-29 Thread Tal Liron
Small comment: Do we really have to call them legacy C libraries? Legacy implies that these are old-style libraries that we eventually want to move away from, but in fact the culture of Vala is happy coexistence with C libraries now and in the future, so it's not a legacy at all. I suggest

Re: [Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-09-09 Thread Tal Liron
Landon, Jamie has been doing a great job in responding to bugs in the last few days. He probably needed the jolt from this mailing list to realize that, yes, there is interest in Genie, and people are writing big things in it. I hope this trend will continue. Also, it seems that some of the

Re: [Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-09-08 Thread Tal Liron
It doesn't seem that Jamie has the capacity -- or any one single person would -- to maintain Genie at the same depth as the Vala dialect. Frankly, fixing serious bugs once a year is not enough for a cutting-edge programming language. And it's falling far behind Vala in features. After some

Re: [Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-09-08 Thread Tal Liron
Genie projects to Vala. :( On 09/08/2013 03:48 PM, Jürg Billeter wrote: On Sun, 2013-09-08 at 14:22 +0800, Tal Liron wrote: After some thinking, I want to make this suggestion: Jamie, or anyone else, would it be possible to write a tool to translate Genie files to Vala? I imagine this would

Re: [Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-08-29 Thread Tal Liron
I'm not sure how Genie is more transitional than Vala in your view. Both offer the same benefits, just with a different syntax. Some of the bugs are real bugs: things that are supposed to work but don't. Some of them are requests to get Genie on par with Vala features -- there are things you

Re: [Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-08-29 Thread Tal Liron
overall value. Jamie, I hope you will step up! Genie a terrific contribution to free software. On 08/29/2013 05:10 PM, Jürg Billeter wrote: On Thu, 2013-08-29 at 16:53 +0800, Tal Liron wrote: But this discussion on specifics is pointless if no work will be done on Genie! I believe

Re: [Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-08-28 Thread Tal Liron
-recorded talk about Genie a while ago and it generated a bit of interest: http://pyvideo.org/speaker/836/tal-liron (Some problems with sound in the first few minutes, later fixed) -Tal On 08/28/2013 07:50 PM, Steven Oliver wrote: You're not the first, and sadly, I'm sure, you won't be the last

[Vala] Worried about the state of Genie

2013-08-27 Thread Tal Liron
I think Genie is a wonderful idea, and have invested a lot in it: three rather large applications, and more coming in the future. However, I'm very concerned about its future. It has some serious linguistic problems and bugs. I've reported many of them on Bugzilla: