Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-15 Thread Pedro Pais
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004 03:24:07 -0300, Eduardo M. Bragatto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Charles Sprickman wrote: I don't really care if some user has his mail sniffed (if he thinks it's confidential, he should be responsible for encrypting it, so even when it's written to the storage system

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-15 Thread Rob Sutton
unsubscribe - Original Message - From: Eduardo M. Bragatto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds! Pedro Pais wrote: I'm not sure, but I think that the only thing that's encrypted

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-15 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Wednesday 15 December 2004 12:24 am, Eduardo M. Bragatto wrote: Charles Sprickman wrote: So I have to choose: using a cryptography authentication method that's not safe or having the password being save as plain (wich is not safe either)? No... You did not pointed how to

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-14 Thread Pedro Pais
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:26:10 -0500 (EST), Charles Sprickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Pedro Pais wrote: Yes, does Outlook Express support TLS? I can't make it use it, which is not very nice :( Oops. Sorry about that. It indeed does not work. This run script is

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-14 Thread Eduardo M. Bragatto
Charles Sprickman wrote: So I have to choose: using a cryptography authentication method that's not safe or having the password being save as plain (wich is not safe either)? No... You did not pointed how to do what I'm asking: is it possible to use CRAM-MD5 without clear passwords? They

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-13 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Eduardo M. Bragatto wrote: Tom Collins wrote: If you stored a single encoded password, anyone sniffing the line could learn the encoded version and just re-use it. So I have to choose: using a cryptography authentication method that's not safe or having the password being

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-13 Thread Pedro Pais
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:37:00 -0500 (EST), Charles Sprickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 10 Dec 2004, Eduardo M. Bragatto wrote: Tom Collins wrote: If you stored a single encoded password, anyone sniffing the line could learn the encoded version and just re-use it. So I

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-13 Thread Pedro Pais
On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:26:10 -0500 (EST), Charles Sprickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Pedro Pais wrote: Yes, does Outlook Express support TLS? I can't make it use it, which is not very nice :( Oops. Sorry about that. It indeed does not work. This run script is

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-13 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004, Tom Collins wrote: On Dec 9, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: Also, I'm fairly certain that CRAM-MD5 requires that you have clear-text passwords enabled. I still need to look at my pop and smtp servers to see how I can make them not advertise something that's not

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-13 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Tue, 14 Dec 2004, Pedro Pais wrote: Yes, does Outlook Express support TLS? I can't make it use it, which is not very nice :( Oops. Sorry about that. It indeed does not work. This run script is interesting, it will put up an stunnel SSL connection that should make Outhouse Express happy:

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-10 Thread Pedro Pais
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 19:28:32 +, Pedro Pais [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 21:39:22 -0800, Tom Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Pedro Pais wrote: Also, I'm fairly certain that CRAM-MD5 requires that you have clear-text passwords enabled.

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-10 Thread Eduardo M. Bragatto
Tom Collins wrote: If you stored a single encoded password, anyone sniffing the line could learn the encoded version and just re-use it. So I have to choose: using a cryptography authentication method that's not safe or having the password being save as plain (wich is not safe either)? Sure I

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-10 Thread Pedro Pais
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 21:39:22 -0800, Tom Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Pedro Pais wrote: Also, I'm fairly certain that CRAM-MD5 requires that you have clear-text passwords enabled. I still need to look at my pop and smtp servers to see how I can make them

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-10 Thread Tom Collins
On Dec 10, 2004, at 11:28 AM, Pedro Pais wrote: But why isn't the password stored in the passwd/mysql using CRAM-MD5 format? That way you could always check it. It wouldn't matter if the client authenticated using plain or using CRAM-MD5. You could even double cypher the password using mysql

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-09 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Tom Collins wrote: On Dec 8, 2004, at 8:04 AM, Pedro Pais wrote: When a user tries to authenticate itself, the first time vchkpw fails with: Dec 6 21:50:08 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp: password fail but then it succeeds immediatly after: Dec 6 21:50:13 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp:

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-09 Thread Pedro Pais
On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 16:53:30 -0500 (EST), Charles Sprickman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2004, Tom Collins wrote: On Dec 8, 2004, at 8:04 AM, Pedro Pais wrote: When a user tries to authenticate itself, the first time vchkpw fails with: Dec 6 21:50:08 [vpopmail]

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-09 Thread Tom Collins
On Dec 9, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: Also, I'm fairly certain that CRAM-MD5 requires that you have clear-text passwords enabled. I still need to look at my pop and smtp servers to see how I can make them not advertise something that's not available on my system... Good point

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-09 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Thursday 09 December 2004 06:16 pm, Tom Collins wrote: On Dec 9, 2004, at 1:53 PM, Charles Sprickman wrote: Also, I'm fairly certain that CRAM-MD5 requires that you have clear-text passwords enabled. I still need to look at my pop and smtp servers to see how I can make them not

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-09 Thread Tom Collins
On Dec 9, 2004, at 3:20 PM, Pedro Pais wrote: Also, I'm fairly certain that CRAM-MD5 requires that you have clear-text passwords enabled. I still need to look at my pop and smtp servers to see how I can make them not advertise something that's not available on my system... Really? That doesn't

[vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-08 Thread Pedro Pais
When a user tries to authenticate itself, the first time vchkpw fails with: Dec 6 21:50:08 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp: password fail but then it succeeds immediatly after: Dec 6 21:50:13 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp: (PLAIN) login success This is very annoying, besides the fact that this only happens

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-08 Thread Tom Collins
On Dec 8, 2004, at 8:04 AM, Pedro Pais wrote: When a user tries to authenticate itself, the first time vchkpw fails with: Dec 6 21:50:08 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp: password fail but then it succeeds immediatly after: Dec 6 21:50:13 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp: (PLAIN) login success This is very

Re: [vchkpw] vchkpw fails and then succeeds!

2004-12-08 Thread Pedro Pais
On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 10:39:35 -0800, Tom Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2004, at 8:04 AM, Pedro Pais wrote: When a user tries to authenticate itself, the first time vchkpw fails with: Dec 6 21:50:08 [vpopmail] vchkpw-smtp: password fail but then it succeeds immediatly