[vchkpw] another dumb question!
instead of a mass migration and upgrade as i'd originally contemplated, i've simply added a new disk array to my systems to add more space. i've moved many existing domains from the original filer to the new one, simply dropping a symlink in place at the original location - and everything works perfectly, which is great. however, some of my biggest domains are the ones for customers who don't have their own domain. i'm probably not going to migrate those to the new filer, as the downtime while the data transfers would be too long. instead, i'd like to symlink the new numbered subdirectories of those domains to the new filer, so future growth will go there. my question is, can one 'pre-create' the numbered subdirectories, and will vpopmail use them properly, or does vpopmail have to create them itself for them to work? Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
Re: [vchkpw] another dumb question!
On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 10:59, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: instead of a mass migration and upgrade as i'd originally contemplated, i've simply added a new disk array to my systems to add more space. i've moved many existing domains from the original filer to the new one, simply dropping a symlink in place at the original location - and everything works perfectly, which is great. however, some of my biggest domains are the ones for customers who don't have their own domain. i'm probably not going to migrate those to the new filer, as the downtime while the data transfers would be too long. instead, i'd like to symlink the new numbered subdirectories of those domains to the new filer, so future growth will go there. my question is, can one 'pre-create' the numbered subdirectories, and will vpopmail use them properly, or does vpopmail have to create them itself for them to work? Can you rsync two directories? Then you wouldn't really have the downtime... Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
Re: [vchkpw] another dumb question!
At 09:05 AM 5/4/2004, Rick Romero wrote: Can you rsync two directories? Then you wouldn't really have the downtime... i've never used rsync, have never had a need so never looked into it. rsync can work while a file system is being actively and aggressively modified? e.g. user X is checking email every 30 seconds via pop3, their account receives several new messages per minute - customer checks for new mail while rsync is running, the pop session moves new messages from Maildir/new to Maildir/cur - rsync will understand that, even if it happens while rsync is syncing that part of the filesystem? there's no danger of winding up with duplicate copies in new and cur? yeah, i guess these aren't vpopmail questions. but anyway, that's not specifically the issue i was asking about. i actually don't want to move the largest domains to the new filer - by leaving most of their data where it is, i can balance load better across more spindles, as opposed to moving all data to the new filer. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
Re: [vchkpw] another dumb question!
On Tue, 2004-05-04 at 11:17, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: At 09:05 AM 5/4/2004, Rick Romero wrote: Can you rsync two directories? Then you wouldn't really have the downtime... i've never used rsync, have never had a need so never looked into it. rsync can work while a file system is being actively and aggressively modified? e.g. user X is checking email every 30 seconds via pop3, their account receives several new messages per minute - customer checks for new mail while rsync is running, the pop session moves new messages from Maildir/new to Maildir/cur - rsync will understand that, even if it happens while rsync is syncing that part of the filesystem? there's no danger of winding up with duplicate copies in new and cur? There's a delete option when you're running a synch. You can delete from source or destination. So if you set delete on destination, the destination should always match the source when it's done. yeah, i guess these aren't vpopmail questions. shrug :) but anyway, that's not specifically the issue i was asking about. i actually don't want to move the largest domains to the new filer - by leaving most of their data where it is, i can balance load better across more spindles, as opposed to moving all data to the new filer. Ohh. for some reason I was thinking single drive - RAID.. Yeah, then whatever ;) Rick Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
Re: [vchkpw] another dumb question!
Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: instead of a mass migration and upgrade as i'd originally contemplated, i've simply added a new disk array to my systems to add more space. i've moved many existing domains from the original filer to the new one, simply dropping a symlink in place at the original location - and everything works perfectly, which is great. however, some of my biggest domains are the ones for customers who don't have their own domain. i'm probably not going to migrate those to the new filer, as the downtime while the data transfers would be too long. instead, i'd like to symlink the new numbered subdirectories of those domains to the new filer, so future growth will go there. my question is, can one 'pre-create' the numbered subdirectories, and will vpopmail use them properly, or does vpopmail have to create them itself for them to work? In the past I've precreated these directories (actually had to once to make adding users work, still never figured that out) and they just get used. I believe that the vpopmail code checks the existence before trying to create, and if it exists it just uses it. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com Hope that helps, Nick
Re: [vchkpw] another dumb question!
At 11:26 AM 5/4/2004, you wrote: In the past I've precreated these directories (actually had to once to make adding users work, still never figured that out) and they just get used. I believe that the vpopmail code checks the existence before trying to create, and if it exists it just uses it. cool, thanks kindly. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
Re: [vchkpw] another dumb question!
At 05:15 PM 5/4/2004, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote: At 11:26 AM 5/4/2004, you wrote: In the past I've precreated these directories (actually had to once to make adding users work, still never figured that out) and they just get used. I believe that the vpopmail code checks the existence before trying to create, and if it exists it just uses it. cool, thanks kindly. well, i just discovered something weird while starting to add some symlinks for these premade directories - very inconsistent usage of the numbered dirs - for example: domain1.com/0 - 90 addresses domain1.com/1 - 0 addresses domain1.com/2 - 104 addresses domain2.com/0 - 5 addresses domain2.com/1 - 1 address domain2.com/2 - 1 address domain2.com/3 - 38 addresses makes no sense. known bug? this is vpopmail v.5.3.18. Paul Theodoropoulos http://www.anastrophe.com
