RE: [vchkpw] Disabling bounce messages

2005-02-25 Thread shadowplay.net


doesn't this fundementally break the RFC for SMTP?


 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Wichers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: February 25, 2005 11:40
 To: vchkpw@inter7.com
 Subject: [vchkpw] Disabling bounce messages
 
 
 I'm looking for a way to disable bouncing (ALL bouncing, not just
 double-bounces) temporarily for a group of domains on one our 
 mail servers that is causing some problems. I'm hoping there 
 is a way to do this globally (as in NOT editing ALL the 
 domain/.qmail-default files, as there are many). Does 
 anyone know of any way to do this without going into each 
 virtual domain and editing the .qmail-default file there? 
 That would be a lot of work, and especially bad since it 
 would all need to be undone in a few days anyway.
 
 Any help appreciated. Google is full of answers to people 
 using non-vpopmail setups, but little info seems to be out 
 there for vpopmail setups on a large-ish scale.
 
  -Bill
 
 
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Re: [vchkpw] Disabling bounce messages

2005-02-25 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Friday 25 February 2005 11:40 am, Bill Wichers wrote:
 I'm looking for a way to disable bouncing (ALL bouncing, not just
 double-bounces) temporarily for a group of domains on one our mail servers
 that is causing some problems. I'm hoping there is a way to do this
 globally (as in NOT editing ALL the domain/.qmail-default files, as
 there are many). Does anyone know of any way to do this without going into
 each virtual domain and editing the .qmail-default file there? That would
 be a lot of work, and especially bad since it would all need to be undone
 in a few days anyway.

I'm assuming you have a list of these domains you need to change.

Write a simple script to run over the list, run vdominfo to give you the 
directory the domain is in, copy the existing .qmail-default to a backup 
location (best if it's in the same directory.. cp .qmail-default to 
qmail-default-backup or something, pay attention to the lack of a .)

then write a new .qmail-default file with the proper command to disable 
bounces.

-Jeremy

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Re: [vchkpw] Disabling bounce messages

2005-02-25 Thread Paul Oehler
I'm looking for a way to disable bouncing (ALL bouncing, not just
double-bounces) temporarily for a group of domains on one our

doesn't this fundementally break the RFC for SMTP?
Probably, but considering the RFC for SMTP has fundamental problems that 
make life miserable for good folks and life wonderful for spammers - too 
bad.

Sorry Bill, short of writing a shell script to change the .qmail-default 
files automatically I don't know of any method.

Paul
p.s. I'm not interested in getting into a debate, this isn't the right place 
anyway.
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Ann Arbor, MI  48104
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Re: [vchkpw] Disabling bounce messages

2005-02-25 Thread Bill Wichers
 doesn't this fundementally break the RFC for SMTP?

 Probably, but considering the RFC for SMTP has fundamental problems that
 make life miserable for good folks and life wonderful for spammers - too
 bad.

Doesn't really matter if it breaks it or not since (1) 99%+ of the bounces
are spam anyway and spammers have never been big on RFC compliance, and
(2) this is a temp fix I need to have in place for a few days until the
system can be taken down to fix the problem properly (chkuser needs to
be installed, along with a vpopmail upgrade and some db tweaks).

 Sorry Bill, short of writing a shell script to change the .qmail-default
 files automatically I don't know of any method.

That's what I ended up doing. I was hopeful maybe there was some magic
feature like /vpopmail/alias/.qmail-global-default or something like that
:-) No big deal to write the script, there are maybe 30 domains or so on
the box in question. It's behind our MX frontends and has been getting
Spamcop angry with misdirected bounces. I needed a quick fix to appease
Spamcop and get the users to stop yelling at me since I don't have the
time to do a real fix for a few days.

 Ann Arbor, MI  48104

Wow, you're local(ish)! We're in Troy and Southfield (2 facilities).

 -Bill


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