Re: [vchkpw] Changing from vmailmgr to vpopmail
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, Jens Benecke [work] wrote: > I am currently running a server with about 80 domains and about 30 users. > The server runs qmail+QMAILQUEUE+SMTP-AUTH+TARPIT, vmailmgr, daemontools, > dnscache, Squirrelmail 1.4, qmail-pop3d, courier-imap, and sslwrap for POP3 > and IMAP. I also have Spamassassin and F-Prot included via Qmail-Scanner. I > additionally have several 'script' aliases (for example sending a mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will cause a specific script to be executed as the user > who owns 'domain.foo', where "XYZ" counts as a kind of password for this > trigger). everything of this is runnable under vpopmail scheme > I have now been hit hard by spammers (some idiot spammer has been using my > domains as Return-Path for a week and I get about 20.000 "Undeliverable", > "Please confirm" and "YOU F*CKING SPAMMER!11!!" mails a day(!). I want my > users to be able to use TMDA for their domains and I would like a > user-friendly interface for this. merely switching to vpopmail doesn't solve this issue, it's a spam well known 'strategy'; (consider if this idiot want to spam aol.com million email address with fake adresses under your domains as Return-Path) you could solve it with qmail's tools like doublebounceto to free postmaster's mailbox (this will not stop your waste of bandwith, just it'll avoid to fill your hard disk) or using several filters at SMTP level available in qmail.org to reject this spam > Now, using vmailmgr, I get the impression that most of the add-ons that are > desinged for virtual users are made for vpopmail. qmailadmin for example. yes and no; you can use several add-ons like Omail from Oliver Muller (http://omail.omnis.ch/), etc; It's true that qmailadmin/vqadmin community seems more active because a inter7.com support and developping. > Also, I get the impression that vpopmail is much more widely used. indeed > - Am I correct? Is it a good idea to switch to vpopmail? in your place, I'll consider more reasons that you pointed out here; but's is your choice...:) I'm running two servers to compare vmailmrg/vpopmail features and benefits. > - Can I use vpopmail and still have my users read their mail with 'mutt' > locally if they want? Some of the users have SSH access. I understand all > mail will be handled by the 'vpopmail' user, that might present a problem. you're right it's possible only forwarding from your user's vpopmail structure to /home/user/Maildir creating appropiate .qmail files (you can use qmailadmin or by hand taking care of permissions) > - Does vpopmail allow some domains to be excluded and just be forwarded to > eg. /home/jens/Maildir/? (I don't need my own domains to be split up - I > just use a couple .qmail files for @jensbenecke.de). under vpopmail, all you domains will go under ~vpopmail/domains As above, you can configure all .qmail files that you need > - Is there a package of vpopmail that does not put everything in the > vpopmail home directory? you can tweak installation at configure step of vpopmail package ./configure --help to see relevant choices. regards, Abel Lucano DECODE SA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [vchkpw] Changing from vmailmgr to vpopmail
Hi, The short answer is Yes. Vpopmail will be able to do everything you want described below including using different system users for some domains. The long answer is to read the FAQ and documentation for vpopmail and qmail. You will most likely have to compile vpopmail yourself to get the binaries installed in a different location. Regards, Rick Jens Benecke [work] wrote: Hi everybody, I am currently running a server with about 80 domains and about 30 users. The server runs qmail+QMAILQUEUE+SMTP-AUTH+TARPIT, vmailmgr, daemontools, dnscache, Squirrelmail 1.4, qmail-pop3d, courier-imap, and sslwrap for POP3 and IMAP. I also have Spamassassin and F-Prot included via Qmail-Scanner. I additionally have several 'script' aliases (for example sending a mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will cause a specific script to be executed as the user who owns 'domain.foo', where "XYZ" counts as a kind of password for this trigger). Most users have several domains which I just created as aliases in the qmail configuration. I have now been hit hard by spammers (some idiot spammer has been using my domains as Return-Path for a week and I get about 20.000 "Undeliverable", "Please confirm" and "YOU F*CKING SPAMMER!11!!" mails a day(!). I want my users to be able to use TMDA for their domains and I would like a user-friendly interface for this. Now, using vmailmgr, I get the impression that most of the add-ons that are desinged for virtual users are made for vpopmail. qmailadmin for example. Also, I get the impression that vpopmail is much more widely used. So: - Am I correct? Is it a good idea to switch to vpopmail? - Can I use vpopmail and still have my users read their mail with 'mutt' locally if they want? Some of the users have SSH access. I understand all mail will be handled by the 'vpopmail' user, that might present a problem. - Does vpopmail allow some domains to be excluded and just be forwarded to eg. /home/jens/Maildir/? (I don't need my own domains to be split up - I just use a couple .qmail files for @jensbenecke.de). - Is there a package of vpopmail that does not put everything in the vpopmail home directory? I have /home mounted 'noexec,nosuid,nodev' (for security) and I'm not about to change that. Binaries go in /usr/local/bin or somewhere IMHO ... Thank you!
Re: [vchkpw] Changing from vmailmgr to vpopmail
I will suggest better to study FAQs first from www.inter7.com regarding vpopmail -- Best Regs, Masood Ahmad Shah System Administrator ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * | Fibre Net (Pvt) Ltd. Lahore, Pakistan | Tel: +92-42-6677024 | Mobile: +92-300-4277367 | http://www.fibre.net.pk | * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ Unix is very simple, but it takes a genius to understand the simplicity. (Dennis Ritchie) - Original Message - From: "Jens Benecke [work]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 5:01 PM Subject: [vchkpw] Changing from vmailmgr to vpopmail | Hi everybody, | | I am currently running a server with about 80 domains and about 30 users. | The server runs qmail+QMAILQUEUE+SMTP-AUTH+TARPIT, vmailmgr, daemontools, | dnscache, Squirrelmail 1.4, qmail-pop3d, courier-imap, and sslwrap for POP3 | and IMAP. I also have Spamassassin and F-Prot included via Qmail-Scanner. I | additionally have several 'script' aliases (for example sending a mail to | "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will cause a specific script to be executed as the user | who owns 'domain.foo', where "XYZ" counts as a kind of password for this | trigger). | | Most users have several domains which I just created as aliases in the qmail | configuration. | | I have now been hit hard by spammers (some idiot spammer has been using my | domains as Return-Path for a week and I get about 20.000 "Undeliverable", | "Please confirm" and "YOU F*CKING SPAMMER!11!!" mails a day(!). I want my | users to be able to use TMDA for their domains and I would like a | user-friendly interface for this. | | | Now, using vmailmgr, I get the impression that most of the add-ons that are | desinged for virtual users are made for vpopmail. qmailadmin for example. | Also, I get the impression that vpopmail is much more widely used. | So: | | - Am I correct? Is it a good idea to switch to vpopmail? | | - Can I use vpopmail and still have my users read their mail with 'mutt' | locally if they want? Some of the users have SSH access. I understand all | mail will be handled by the 'vpopmail' user, that might present a problem. | | - Does vpopmail allow some domains to be excluded and just be forwarded to | eg. /home/jens/Maildir/? (I don't need my own domains to be split up - I | just use a couple .qmail files for @jensbenecke.de). | | - Is there a package of vpopmail that does not put everything in the | vpopmail home directory? I have /home mounted 'noexec,nosuid,nodev' (for | security) and I'm not about to change that. Binaries go in /usr/local/bin | or somewhere IMHO ... | | Thank you! | | | | -- | Jens Benecke ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | | |
[vchkpw] Changing from vmailmgr to vpopmail
Hi everybody, I am currently running a server with about 80 domains and about 30 users. The server runs qmail+QMAILQUEUE+SMTP-AUTH+TARPIT, vmailmgr, daemontools, dnscache, Squirrelmail 1.4, qmail-pop3d, courier-imap, and sslwrap for POP3 and IMAP. I also have Spamassassin and F-Prot included via Qmail-Scanner. I additionally have several 'script' aliases (for example sending a mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" will cause a specific script to be executed as the user who owns 'domain.foo', where "XYZ" counts as a kind of password for this trigger). Most users have several domains which I just created as aliases in the qmail configuration. I have now been hit hard by spammers (some idiot spammer has been using my domains as Return-Path for a week and I get about 20.000 "Undeliverable", "Please confirm" and "YOU F*CKING SPAMMER!11!!" mails a day(!). I want my users to be able to use TMDA for their domains and I would like a user-friendly interface for this. Now, using vmailmgr, I get the impression that most of the add-ons that are desinged for virtual users are made for vpopmail. qmailadmin for example. Also, I get the impression that vpopmail is much more widely used. So: - Am I correct? Is it a good idea to switch to vpopmail? - Can I use vpopmail and still have my users read their mail with 'mutt' locally if they want? Some of the users have SSH access. I understand all mail will be handled by the 'vpopmail' user, that might present a problem. - Does vpopmail allow some domains to be excluded and just be forwarded to eg. /home/jens/Maildir/? (I don't need my own domains to be split up - I just use a couple .qmail files for @jensbenecke.de). - Is there a package of vpopmail that does not put everything in the vpopmail home directory? I have /home mounted 'noexec,nosuid,nodev' (for security) and I'm not about to change that. Binaries go in /usr/local/bin or somewhere IMHO ... Thank you! -- Jens Benecke ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
