Re: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files?
It is working now. I had omitted the / at the end of the pathname used to distinguish a Maildir line from an mbox line. Incidentally the Maildir line works equally well in the .qmail-* file in the domain directory and in the .qmail file in the account directory. Thanks for the help, and sorry for taking extra bandwidth due to my typo. -Kurt On 3/6/11 10:42 PM, "Kurt Bigler" wrote: > Rick et al, > > On 3/6/11 9:30 PM, "Rick Widmer" wrote: > >> On 3/6/2011 10:13 PM, Kurt Bigler wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm in a time-sensitive bind in which I need to set something up quickly for >>> a user in my existing qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin system (which has a little >>> procmail sprinkled in). >>> >>> The goal is to create a new forward or forwarding account that forwards to >>> this user's existing account but bypasses the .qmail file associated with >>> that account (which invokes spam filtering). In short I want to deliver to >>> the Maildir but skip the .qmail instructions. If I'm not mistaken the >>> mechanisms I can think of within vpopmail do NOT do this. >> >> Don't create an account for the new address, instead create a >> .qmail-new-address file in the domain directory. In that .qmail file >> add the following: >> >> /full/path/to/old/Maildir/ >> >> I don't believe it is possible with qmailadmin anymore, but you should >> be able to set it up by hand. It will probably show up in qmailadmin >> once you create the forward, but DO NOT edit it with qmailadmin. >> >> Rick > > Yes, thanks, I just tried that, having carefully checked the full path name, > incoming emails are being discarded. The log shows qmail-queue accepting > delivery but nothing comes through. > > Permissions look ok, unless qmail is being fussy about the owner. I do have > one symlink involved in my setup (which has caused no other problems): > > vps# ll -ld /var/vpopmail/domains > lrwxr-xr-x 1 root vchkpw 12 Feb 13 2009 /var/vpopmail/domains -> > /old/domains > > and I wonder whether the root owner of the symlink should instead be > vpopmail, but don't dare to change it casually since the mail system is live > and working. > > The rest of the items in the pathname are all: > > drwx-- vpopmail vchkpw > > And I also tried spelling the full pathname using /old/domains directly > instead of going through the symlink /var/vpopmail/domains. > > Next I'm trying to see if I can use a relative path (using . instad of /) in > the qmail-* file. > > Thanks for the help so far. > > -Kurt > > > > > > > > > > !DSPAM:4d74884e32711005111589!
Re: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files?
Rick et al, On 3/6/11 9:30 PM, "Rick Widmer" wrote: > On 3/6/2011 10:13 PM, Kurt Bigler wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm in a time-sensitive bind in which I need to set something up quickly for >> a user in my existing qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin system (which has a little >> procmail sprinkled in). >> >> The goal is to create a new forward or forwarding account that forwards to >> this user's existing account but bypasses the .qmail file associated with >> that account (which invokes spam filtering). In short I want to deliver to >> the Maildir but skip the .qmail instructions. If I'm not mistaken the >> mechanisms I can think of within vpopmail do NOT do this. > > Don't create an account for the new address, instead create a > .qmail-new-address file in the domain directory. In that .qmail file > add the following: > > /full/path/to/old/Maildir/ > > I don't believe it is possible with qmailadmin anymore, but you should > be able to set it up by hand. It will probably show up in qmailadmin > once you create the forward, but DO NOT edit it with qmailadmin. > > Rick Yes, thanks, I just tried that, having carefully checked the full path name, incoming emails are being discarded. The log shows qmail-queue accepting delivery but nothing comes through. Permissions look ok, unless qmail is being fussy about the owner. I do have one symlink involved in my setup (which has caused no other problems): vps# ll -ld /var/vpopmail/domains lrwxr-xr-x 1 root vchkpw 12 Feb 13 2009 /var/vpopmail/domains -> /old/domains and I wonder whether the root owner of the symlink should instead be vpopmail, but don't dare to change it casually since the mail system is live and working. The rest of the items in the pathname are all: drwx-- vpopmail vchkpw And I also tried spelling the full pathname using /old/domains directly instead of going through the symlink /var/vpopmail/domains. Next I'm trying to see if I can use a relative path (using . instad of /) in the qmail-* file. Thanks for the help so far. -Kurt !DSPAM:4d747e6032715437842646!
Re: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files?
That's what I checked out first. It does not really go directly to the Maildir when an "&" line is used, whether that is in a .qmail-address file under the domain directory or in the .qmail file in the user directory. You might have meant to use a "/" line which is what Rick suggested and I'm trying that with no luck so far. -Kurt On 3/6/11 9:29 PM, "Tren Blackburn" wrote: > You can deliver directly to the Maildir via a forward. Details are in the man > pages. > > HTH, > > Tren > > - Original Message - > From: Kurt Bigler [mailto:k...@breathsense.com] > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 09:13 PM > To: vchkpw@inter7.com > Subject: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files? > > Hi, > > I'm in a time-sensitive bind in which I need to set something up quickly for > a user in my existing qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin system (which has a little > procmail sprinkled in). > > The goal is to create a new forward or forwarding account that forwards to > this user's existing account but bypasses the .qmail file associated with > that account (which invokes spam filtering). In short I want to deliver to > the Maildir but skip the .qmail instructions. If I'm not mistaken the > mechanisms I can think of within vpopmail do NOT do this. > > This is a solution to a problem that this user is in a critical > health-related process that requires that she reliably receive critical > email (from people who have the new address). The other requirement is not > to have to alter this person's email settings in a way that would require > adding another account to her Apple Mail scenario. The user has visual > problems and limited capacity to deal with things like an extra folder > appearing in her Apple Mail interface. > > The only thing I could think of is that maybe a very short procmail command > file might name a Maildir which gets delivered to directly without reference > to the .qmail file which would cause the spam filter (sorely needed for the > existing address) to be invoked. > > But if there were a more straighforward way to do this directly in > qmail+vpopmail I'd like to know about it. > > I am currently using vpopmail 5.4.10 (and qmailadmin 1.2.8), and right now > is not the time to upgrade (please). > > Thanks for any thoughts. > > -Kurt > > > > > > > > > > !DSPAM:4d747c7332712961132975!
Re: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files?
On 3/6/2011 10:13 PM, Kurt Bigler wrote: Hi, I'm in a time-sensitive bind in which I need to set something up quickly for a user in my existing qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin system (which has a little procmail sprinkled in). The goal is to create a new forward or forwarding account that forwards to this user's existing account but bypasses the .qmail file associated with that account (which invokes spam filtering). In short I want to deliver to the Maildir but skip the .qmail instructions. If I'm not mistaken the mechanisms I can think of within vpopmail do NOT do this. Don't create an account for the new address, instead create a .qmail-new-address file in the domain directory. In that .qmail file add the following: /full/path/to/old/Maildir/ I don't believe it is possible with qmailadmin anymore, but you should be able to set it up by hand. It will probably show up in qmailadmin once you create the forward, but DO NOT edit it with qmailadmin. Rick !DSPAM:4d746d6932713967978240!
Re: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files?
You can deliver directly to the Maildir via a forward. Details are in the man pages. HTH, Tren - Original Message - From: Kurt Bigler [mailto:k...@breathsense.com] Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 09:13 PM To: vchkpw@inter7.com Subject: [vchkpw] way to deliver to Maildir bypassing .qmail files? Hi, I'm in a time-sensitive bind in which I need to set something up quickly for a user in my existing qmail+vpopmail+qmailadmin system (which has a little procmail sprinkled in). The goal is to create a new forward or forwarding account that forwards to this user's existing account but bypasses the .qmail file associated with that account (which invokes spam filtering). In short I want to deliver to the Maildir but skip the .qmail instructions. If I'm not mistaken the mechanisms I can think of within vpopmail do NOT do this. This is a solution to a problem that this user is in a critical health-related process that requires that she reliably receive critical email (from people who have the new address). The other requirement is not to have to alter this person's email settings in a way that would require adding another account to her Apple Mail scenario. The user has visual problems and limited capacity to deal with things like an extra folder appearing in her Apple Mail interface. The only thing I could think of is that maybe a very short procmail command file might name a Maildir which gets delivered to directly without reference to the .qmail file which would cause the spam filter (sorely needed for the existing address) to be invoked. But if there were a more straighforward way to do this directly in qmail+vpopmail I'd like to know about it. I am currently using vpopmail 5.4.10 (and qmailadmin 1.2.8), and right now is not the time to upgrade (please). Thanks for any thoughts. -Kurt !DSPAM:4d746d4232711751677028!
