RE: Hosted back-end servers
Thanks Josh. Has anyone else looked into this at all? Adam > -Original Message- > From: Josh Thompson [mailto:josh_thomp...@ncsu.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 8:47 AM > To: vcl-user@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Hosted back-end servers > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Adam, > > I don't think anyone has tried something like that. It might be doable, but a > little tricky, if only using VMs. I don't think it would work if you wanted > to do bare metal installs. The main gotcha would be handling the VCL private > network. VCL uses a private network to push images around control the > nodes > (both VM hosts and VMs). Typically, VCL is set up with all machines having > two NICs. We have set it up with machines having only one NIC, but you > have > to do a few extra things to make that work. > > We'd like to get to the point of only requiring one NIC in each machine with > the goal of being able to just take some old lab machines and run a VCL > cluster on them so that the barrier to entry of using VCL would be much > lower. > However, there are some other things that are taking a higher priority right > now; so, it may be a while before we can get to that. > > If you're really interested in trying out this hosted solution, let us know > more of what networking options are available and what kind of control you > get > over DHCP. Then, we may be able to tell you what you'd need to do to set it > up. > > There's also a consortium of colleges and universities that have some kind of > contracted out VCL service. I don't know much about it other than what I've > read on their blog (http://labstor.blogspot.com/), but that might be > something > else to look in to. > > Josh > > On Monday January 31, 2011, Hechler, Adam wrote: > > Has anyone ever tried running (or even tested) a VCL using a hosted > > back-end server solution? I've been asked to look into whether or not a > > service like this would be acceptable for a VCL test environment. The > > specific service I was asked to look at was at 1&1 > > > (http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/CloudDynamicServer;jsessionid=7C845E > F3FD > > 688FF8D42BD7F1B4D822DC.TCpfix141a?__frame=_top&__lf=Order- > Tariff&linkOrigin > > =CloudDynamicServer&linkId=hd.nav.domains) > > > > Has anyone even investigated this option? > > > > Adam > - -- > - --- > Josh Thompson > VCL Developer > North Carolina State University > > my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) > > iEYEARECAAYFAk1IDtcACgkQV/LQcNdtPQPv5wCfWNSeV+RmpovngvuYXCI99 > 2Zy > 698An21Km55uHTNxyHTpzjX8zhepPFuV > =9H7s > -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Hosted back-end servers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Adam, I don't think anyone has tried something like that. It might be doable, but a little tricky, if only using VMs. I don't think it would work if you wanted to do bare metal installs. The main gotcha would be handling the VCL private network. VCL uses a private network to push images around control the nodes (both VM hosts and VMs). Typically, VCL is set up with all machines having two NICs. We have set it up with machines having only one NIC, but you have to do a few extra things to make that work. We'd like to get to the point of only requiring one NIC in each machine with the goal of being able to just take some old lab machines and run a VCL cluster on them so that the barrier to entry of using VCL would be much lower. However, there are some other things that are taking a higher priority right now; so, it may be a while before we can get to that. If you're really interested in trying out this hosted solution, let us know more of what networking options are available and what kind of control you get over DHCP. Then, we may be able to tell you what you'd need to do to set it up. There's also a consortium of colleges and universities that have some kind of contracted out VCL service. I don't know much about it other than what I've read on their blog (http://labstor.blogspot.com/), but that might be something else to look in to. Josh On Monday January 31, 2011, Hechler, Adam wrote: > Has anyone ever tried running (or even tested) a VCL using a hosted > back-end server solution? I've been asked to look into whether or not a > service like this would be acceptable for a VCL test environment. The > specific service I was asked to look at was at 1&1 > (http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/CloudDynamicServer;jsessionid=7C845EF3FD > 688FF8D42BD7F1B4D822DC.TCpfix141a?__frame=_top&__lf=Order-Tariff&linkOrigin > =CloudDynamicServer&linkId=hd.nav.domains) > > Has anyone even investigated this option? > > Adam - -- - --- Josh Thompson VCL Developer North Carolina State University my GPG/PGP key can be found at pgp.mit.edu -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1IDtcACgkQV/LQcNdtPQPv5wCfWNSeV+RmpovngvuYXCI992Zy 698An21Km55uHTNxyHTpzjX8zhepPFuV =9H7s -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Hosted back-end servers
Has anyone ever tried running (or even tested) a VCL using a hosted back-end server solution? I've been asked to look into whether or not a service like this would be acceptable for a VCL test environment. The specific service I was asked to look at was at 1&1 (http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/CloudDynamicServer;jsessionid=7C845EF3FD688FF8D42BD7F1B4D822DC.TCpfix141a?__frame=_top&__lf=Order-Tariff&linkOrigin=CloudDynamicServer&linkId=hd.nav.domains) Has anyone even investigated this option? Adam
